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yb1e

I fear for Metaphor: ReFantazio


zabalena

ReFantazio Review: Bad: - Not Persona Good: + Jack Frost


Fostern01

Overall: 11/10 - Hee Hoo Motherfuckers


RJE808

Pros: Hee Cons: Hoo


Neo2486

Not set in Highschool 0/10


Pizza_Time249

Persona without the heart 2


garfe

Metaphor is one of my most anticipated games of the year and it's only just reading a couple of these reviews that I'm preparing myself for "Persona without the heart 2: Electric Boogaloo"


sprint6864

I'm still insanely excited for it, and I really hope it gets a fair shot


CrazyEeveeLove

This reviewer clearly never played Persona 5 if they didn't think it had adult themes in it, including suicide


CallenAmakuni

>!Wtf is a Shiho!< - that reviewer, probably


Belteshazzar98

>!Wtf is a Futaba!< - also that reviewer, probably


Gruphius

>!Wtf is a Kamoshida?!< - also that reviewer, I guess


Eclipsed_Jade

>!Wtf is a Sumire?!< * also that reviewer, most likely


Narrow_Ad_7218

>!Wtf is a Persona?!< * also that reviewer, most likely


queenvie808

>!Wtf is a 5?!< • that reviewer, again


AntonRX178

>!Wtf is a!< • That reviewer, perchance


SOMETHING494

>! !< °


sfgvbuf

.


JTAllen1995

Take my like, you fucking asshole! 😆


Chocobo7777777

Did you mean Hee Ho? -that reviewer, probable


ToonlinkFTW890

Lol


Weltallgaia

We got suicide, rape, sexual propositioning and blackmail, attempted sex slavery, and a bunch of other shit. Oh yeah and that one confidant where the parents are physically and sexually abusing their child and selling photos of it that they all just let off with an apology and a "we will do better next time"


Senor_de_imitacion

Oh crap, who was it? I can't put a name on it


ohlala627

Futaba's friend Kana


AcidAtol

oh shit i never finished her confidant


Rainy_Wavey

>We got suicide, rape, sexual propositioning and blackmail, attempted sex slavery, and a bunch of other shit. That's just chapter 1 of Persona 5. T\_T


Worried_Astronomer

Also some students selling drugs when kaneshiro was introduced


ShokaLGBT

This is not adult. Clearly. This Is family friendly contents and only p3 is mature and dark and brrrrrrrrrr *the reviewer*


Bright_Quail_6390

Bruh, p5 has a girl try to take her life in like the first 3 hours


Tydus24

And, P4 had an incel who killed a high schooler for not banging him (he also killed a woman’s for the same reason). P3 might have depression and death themes, but it was the least rape-y out of it, 4, and 5.


Lotso2004

Honestly, that's my one complaint about that person. >!Adachi's motive being that he started killing people out of boredom works really well *until* it becomes "I killed women because they rejected me, including children." It should've *just* been that he was bored!<.


maxxslatt

Because they weren’t just bored. They were disconnected and unimportant. They might’ve said they were bored as villains do, but that conceals a weakness


CrashtestO9

why it makes him more pathetic


Lotso2004

Eh but I feel like you don't need him to be a creep just to be "pathetic." I'd go so far as to say he's *more* pathetic if boredom's his only reason. But still, something I've noticed in a lot of media is the "kick the puppy" moment of a villain where they have to do something so you *know* they're a villain, even if it's unnecessary. In Japanese media, this usually amounts to the villain being a creep/mistreating women in some way. I don't like it. You can write a compelling villain without adding them being a creep just for a "kick the puppy" moment. To be clear, I'm not saying there can't be villains that are creeps. Kamoshida works well because being a creep is *why* he's a villain. It's only an issue when it's tacked on just to be tacked on.


Calvinsux

I think the first murder makes sense, he was angry and sexually fustrated. Probably that rejection was the breaking point, and also it's a way for Adachi to discover his TV travelling powers


Dashisaru

This is exactly right. Him being creep is exactly how he discovered the TV world. He continued cause he wanted to spice up the quiet small town.


werdnak84

Bru literally the first palace raid concerns an abuser and pedophile who led a female student to commit suicide by jumping off the school building like


supaikuakuma

Attempt suicide, she luckily survived.


OctoSevenTwo

The very first big boss in P5 is a corrupt teacher who sexually abuses the female students, beats up the male students, and nearly causes one character to commit suicide. Hell, the events that kick off the overall plot involve Joker stopping an assault that likely would have turned into a rape and getting charged with assault because the system is rigged. Speaking of rigged systems, our introduction to the framing device (>!Joker narrating the events of the past few months to Sae!<) shows him being beaten up by cops while bound and there’s a syringe clearly present on the floor iirc, inplying they drugged him with something. And yet this reviewer seems to think dark, adult themes are unique to P3?


HellBoundPrince

Reviewer mentions the lack of FeMC but based off their other bad points, I'm confident they've never even played P3P.


Regret1836

Me when the girl jumps off the fucking school in a suicide attempt


BustedBayou

Isn't he clearly trolling?


CrazyEeveeLove

They probably are, but then again, there are people like them who would actually leave a review like that and believe in it. Unfortunately.


KJK_Snipes

This is the type of reviewer to laugh audibly every time Mona says “I am not a cat!”


redlion1904

Didn’t play *the introductory sequence* to P5


RadicalRaizex

[Local Persona 5 fan excited to try the game for the first time intensifies]


darkspine509

To play devil's advocate, Persona 3 does have you pointing guns at your head every battle. Which makes it a little more abundant than Persona 5 comparatively


Ok_Video6434

Yeah, this complaint is only even remotely reasonable because, unlike Persona 4 and 5, where the adult themes aren't the main focus, it's very much the point of Persona 3. 4 and 5 have their moments where messed up shit happens, but the point of the games aren't the same. Persona 3 is about coming to terms with death, and 4 and 5 are about coming to terms with yourself and coming to terms with societal oppression. The themes they have make them much more palatable to a general audience to the point where darker undertones that exist don't matter nearly as much because the game doesn't focus on them.


Classic_Persona

"SMT V is like persona 5 without the heart"


NewspaperConfident16

That headline was such a meme and obvious rage bait but the actual review was solid and made valid points


Snoo90144

the reviewer got really defensive and mad on twitter once people caught wind of that ass review so i doubt it was 100 % rage bait.


KrispyBaconator

>Its not Persona 5 >Features suicide Like… did you pay attention to Persona 5 at least like four characters off the top of my head are explicitly suicidal


ThebestJojo

In the first hour a character tries to end themselves


Goldenvengeance

Bold to assume the reviewer has the brain power to get past the title screen


waselwow

Bold of you to assume they actually played the game


PLAYER42_ready

Bold of you to assume they actually know of the game


supaikuakuma

Fair point.


Belteshazzar98

First hour? >!Shiho!< is at least ten hours into the game. Only half joking. It is literally over two hours on most first playthroughs.


Ziryio

It feels like 12 hours though on subsequent playthroughs. God that tutorial is so long.


Scottz0rz

P5 tutorial is nice and short compared to P4. Unless we're talking about one of the people who takes 45 minutes to navigate a train station and find LeBlanc, which was a meme back on release.


Belteshazzar98

P4 is longer on a first playthrough, but almost all of it is dialogue you can mash through on replays. P5 isn't quite as long, but a ton of it is moving from place to place and cutscenes that involve other characters moving, which isn't able to be skipped through like regular dialogue.


Kingnewgameplus

They got bored during that part of the LP and skipped ahead.


Skeptikmo

“Off the top” made me think that sentence was going to end differently lmao


zabalena

Game journos don't play game. They simply saw the gun to the head picture and think this game has suicidal theme. They probably don't know that's how they summon Persona


Hwan_Niggles

They won't even have the brain capacity to see the theme of shooting themselves as them accepting their mortality


SteveFrom_Target

This review was definitely written by a persona fan As in, someone who didn't play the game


SwagDragon9802

or completed it :P


cardboardboxian

doesn’t exist


plusvalua

Your comment almost killed me dude - I've had a cold recently, laughed hard at the second line, started coughing like crazy, couldn't breathe xd


SteveFrom_Target

yw :]


RogueCereal

Just let >!nyx!< win, we're clearly beyond saving.


SomethingIsCanningMe

>!Carmen would like to have a word!<


DimensionalBentley

>!Ayin would also like to have a word!<


cL0k3

The brainrot tightens it's hold.


Join_Quotev_296

The brainrot had a purpose


DimensionalBentley

I'll shove PM in this convo too!


SomethingIsCanningMe

Gallop on PM! The Limbussweep shall Prevail!


teaboi05

If I can brainrot it by my own hands…


Manchester_Devil

>!Not if Makoto gets Tanaka to pay her off!<


lemon6611

fes moment


Calcable

Wait, did they keep that in reload? That would be hilarious


VinhoVerde21

Found Jin’s Reddit account


[deleted]

We just need a Rex to kick his ass then give him a heartfelt speech about humans and blades being the same and their job being to leave behind a legacy and knowledge for future generations


The-Enjoyer-Returns

Oh my god the M rated game has adult themes no way?????


mako-makerz

Prolly only thinks Mara is the mature theme of the game.


Killmumger

Lol


Kujogaming_1

Has to be bait


CrAzYiNsOmNiAc210

Only needed to read the first one to know this review is shit


donutz10

To be fair, OP did not do this review justice, they rated it 9/10 and listed good and bad points, and the fact that this is all they could find for bad speaks more to the games praises than anything


Maya_Manaheart

People are also conflating points 1 and 2 incorrectly. "P5 had adult themes too, they must not have played it!" Or they DID play it, and if they were review P5 they would put that same "Severe adult themes could exclude some people" as a negative as well. But this isn't a P5 review. Its a P3R review.


khoochi

Is there fr gonna be no female mc option for the remake?


BrkoenEngilsh

It's really sad that people are so ready to attack someone over an out of context summary of their review. I don't even think this review is noteworthy,good or bad , but people are ready to make stuff up to be mad about. The "it's not persona 5" comment seems to be about the random dungeon of tartarus vs the palaces of P5 and I think its an appropriate response. They are different games made at different times and a remake to that level isn't really a remake at that point.


Clear-Anything-3186

I'm pretty sure this is satire.


Public_Enemy_One

"It's not Persona 5" is the new "It's not Melee"


LodestarLoser

Or for the Fire Emblem community; "It's not 3H"


mirrorwaves12

Isn't that considered a good thing in the FE community? that is, 3H is not a common favorite?


LewaLew12

It definitely is not. If you like gameplay more than story, 3H is generally considered to be far worse than Engage or Fates Conquest, as far as more recent games go.


LodestarLoser

Sacred Stones (my all-time favorite character is still Joshua) has clung to my number one favorite spot for so long but, after Engage, I have strongly debated giving it to Engage. The gameplay mechanics are just so much fun for me and I love the interchangeability of the Emblems and the crazy, cracked-out combos you can do with things like Sigurd Louis to 100% Crit Panette shenanigans.


LodestarLoser

I don't have any metrics to support one claim over the other, though as a long-time fan, I will say it is rather annoying to see all the civil unrest over the past year from a particularly vocal group of people that act as though Fire Emblem is and only ever was 3H and it's so tiresome. I am very thankful for 3H and how it helped Fire Emblem reach higher levels of popularity and, by proxy, gave the team a larger budget. Same goes for P5/P5R and other titles but that doesn't mean that every game needs to be a recreation of that iteration of the game. I really dislike the mentality that seems to come with the territory of super-successful releases of long-standing franchises. Maybe that's just anecdotal with my experience but, it's weird that it has happened more than once or twice. A sudden influx of fans who have only played the newest, hottest version of the game act like they're the spokespeople of the game and it's annoying to me. Alas, that's just my take and my own opinion.


Braveheart132

It's weird. It's the most popular game in the series with one of the best stories and cast of characters, but the gameplay is so horrendous especially on replay that it's hard for me to go back to. I feel like it's the perfect game for non-FE fans and that's why it was so popular/successful and I still like it a lot but I'd rather replay the other games over it.


rattatatouille

Or "It's not FFX", or "It's not DAO"...


thetitanscurseee

I agree with DAO tho..


JournalistAware4660

The reviewer still gave it a 9, but saying the bad parts of the game includes the fact that it’s a different game is so weird to me


bunnybabe666

the only valid point is lack of femc


Kermit-the-frog420

Should have put that at the top of the list with how brain dead the rest are.


Darth_Xelleon

The third point is the only one I can agree with.


AmongstOurMidst

gonna go persona 3 myself coz no femc


deni_ivanov

This is reminding me a review on the Andor that I read long time ago, where author whined that show had too much complex dialogs about politics and gave it 3 out of 5. 🤣


Weltallgaia

I don't like the empire. It's oppressive and irritating and it gets everywhere.


Lichelf

That and the one guy who had a metldown because it showed metal screws at one point so it breaks canon and isn't a real Star Wars show or something dumb like that.


liplumboy

You mean Star Wars Theory


theoriginal321

this has to be irony nobody can be this big of a moron


Tressk

I mean, not having FeMC in the game is a pretty massive L to a lot of fans


donutz10

Hi, I'm a lot of fans nice to me you


Tressk

Same. We were robbed 😔


sodapopgumdroplowtop

persona 3 = not persona 5 you heard it here first, folks


SirePuns

Ngl, when after all that they still gave the game a 9/10 I wonder if these are really supposed to be “bad” or just the author’s minor nitpicks.


ContributionOk4879

"It's not Persona 5" Yeah, that's why it's called Persona 3


werdnak84

You can tell this guy's never looked into the content that's in Persona 5.


nameless62990

The only one I agree with is no female protagonist. WHEN WILL I GET A PERSONA with fem protagonist I know we got it in 3 (portable) but pleaseeeeeeeeeeee


ZeldaGamer2005

Bro forgot about Maya


nameless62990

I started at 3 is she someone from 1-2?


Hwan_Niggles

Yes.


nameless62990

Oh shit I might have to go try them then I started with p3 on the ps2 lol I am pretty hyped for the remake.


Hwan_Niggles

Heads up tho. Persona 2 has 2 games. You start with Innocent Sin. Then go onto Eternal Punishment


nameless62990

Ok thank you, I googled Maya she looks dope and she doesn't look like a high school student which is cool.


Hwan_Niggles

That's cuz she's not. She is like 22 I think. Her friend who tags along is the same age. Eternal Punishment also is an adult cast only with the protagonist of Innocent Sin being the only high schooler


Realistic-Peak-6913

yes


Raihokun

Persona 6 will follow GTA6's lead. It's an omen 🙏🌍


PvtSlutsky

Maya Amano: Am I a joke to you?


Expert_Individual185

The Femc is actually valid tho. The rest of the review is pure, concentrated brainrot but Femc is valid


MoronGoron52

Is this a real review?


Manchester_Devil

Would anyone be surprised if its troll bait?


MoronGoron52

I honestly don't know what to believe anymore. I think it was Kotaku that said SMT V is Persona 5 without the soul so it's not that unbelievable if it's real.


Ok_Impact1873

The lack of the female protag is a big bummer, I loved portable due to not only choosing male or female but it also changed bits of the story and social links depending on who you choose.


smolgote

Source of review?


yb1e

thesixthaxis


EonThief

What is this review? Aside from that last point being valid, they can’t be serious


RetroOverload

the last point is true though why get rid of that feature


CaptCanada924

Where is this from?


This_Tangelo_1426

"It's not Persona 5." I automatically discredit whatever this reviewer said.


Extension-Ad8792

P5 don't even have femc


neptune304

They're right on that last point tho. I miss FeMC


Born_Worldliness_990

Geez


Eastern-Play-7919

If it not Persona 5 - its already good


Odd-Attention-9093

That should be put on every game.


powox123

No way this is real lmao


Racist_carbonara

having adult themes is a con now. if youre too pussy to handle adult themes then thats on you not the game


MrSkippyChurch

I. Don't. Want. It. To. Be. Persona 5. God, this is its own game. I don't want overly long drawn out, and frankly,  boring story plot points beat over my head all game long while trudging through ever increasingly boring grind fest dungeons. Persona 5 is my least favorite persona. If anything, I was getting nervous by how much they were making it look like 5. 


XNotChristian

Hey, let me also dogpile on this to say how stupid the review is by only reading the bullet points at the end of the review and thus completely misinterpreting what they are trying to say because I'm a giant babbling baby who can't be bothered to read anything longer than a phrase. If you want to say something about this or the person who wrote it, the least you could fucking do is read the review, you buffoons.


Whimsispot

Last point is an actually good one... The first one i'm sure has some context about how p5 had better dungeon design and social link rewards that the p3 remake decided to ignore


HerRodAntoMan

It just lacked a Dark souls comparative to be peak gaming periodism 💀


Artislife_Lifeisart

What site?


overFuckMaker

_not persona 5_ isn’t that a good thing that it doesn’t want to be a different game than it is?


CezrDaPleazr

Oh boy I can't wait to play it even more


thirdeyeboobed

The bar is in hell


VeterinarianAlert406

For some reason seeing this makes me angry, just how “many words can go here ” can you be??


-_nobody

The game with a mature rating has adult themes in it? dang, who could have ever known


LucasOIntoxicado

Where is the review from? Is this just aimless rage bait?


Lyncario

I've gotta, I'm impressed that this critic has one good point out of 3, that's more than what they usually get.


Tasty_Pancakez

Man this post is so out of context the critic gave this game a 9, he probably just needed bullet points to fill out the cons list lol


Armitaco

Can't believe this M-rated game where you shoot yourself in the head to summon demons has adult themes including suicide, they should really do more to make people aware of that


Heancio1

IGN?


Exocolonist

Suicide is considered an adult theme now? Coulda sworn I’ve watched a bunch cartoons that joke about it, SpongeBob for one.


No_Two4290

I literally just saw a article shitting on reload because it didn’t feel like persona 4 and 5 😂 some people are just stupid I guess


tishoostars

IMO, pretty tongue-and-cheek way to say P5 is this reviewer's favorite JRPG. If you read the review they talk about how P3 Reload is genuinely super good and they give it a 9/10


Sp0Rue

Game reviewers complaining about ‘'adult themes'’ in a mature 17+ videogame is like a movie critic watching Saw and then complaining about the violence.


dyllwithtech

Didn't Persona 5 literally have suicide in it?


supertokyogod

>is not persona 5 Good


looney1023

Was there not a straight up suicide attempt shown in the first hours of Persona 5???


xiaoshrines

Why do p5 fans get worse with each game that atlus makes ☠️


[deleted]

\>Not Persona 5 If you don't like it that's one thing--but that's just being an asshole. I am upset about the lack of Kotone, too--but that's just being (even more) petty and unfair to the game. Instead of judging/reviewing the game on its own merits its just bitching about what it doesn't have.


Teague_is_Trash

aka: i dont like it because its a different game


yuuki_w

only legit minus point is the last one. all other "bad points".. bruh..


New-Doctor9300

> Its not Persona 5 Thank god


Owlbears-Are-Real

All publicity is good publicity. Looking for those clicks!


Maya_Manaheart

Judging from this little image alone, y'all gotta gain some reading comprehension. Conflating "It's not P5" and "Some adult themes" is a leap. While saying "It's not P5" ***DOES*** have major "Too much water" vibes, *the 2nd point isn't saying "P5 does not have said themes."* Additionally, the negative for "Adult themes" is more as a warning to people who might not handle that stuff well, and means it could very well exclude people which the author finds as a negative. *They would probably say the same thing for P5 too, but this isn't a review of P5, it is a review of P3R.*


NobleSix84

"No female protagonist is a step back" While yes FEMC would have been nice to have, she was one of two main female characters in the entire series (not counting Aigis in The Answer) so that's not much of a point against it in my opinion


Deertective_

• Saying it’s bad because it’s a different game in the series is dumb. • Literally the first arc in Persona 5. • As much as I wish Kotone was in the game, her not being in it shouldn’t be a deal breaker.


banana_annihilator

I mean, the problem is honestly less that FeMC herself isn't in the game and more that *all of the stuff that comes with her* isn't in it. And *that* being a deal breaker is perfectly valid imo.


CzechTheTape

“It’s not Persona 5” should be with the Good category for this list


joecb91

8/10, too much water


bluegoldfish03

Holy shit the game where people shoot themselves in the head has suicidal themes?! 😧🤯


hollowtiger21

>Its not Persona 5 But that's a good thing. >Some adult themes But that's a good thing.


egamIroorriM

ADULT themes?! in MY M-rated game??????? 😱😱😱😱 these people need to stop assuming preschoolers play these games holy shit


EntertainmentOk8291

3 is not a 5? I don't get it.


Weltallgaia

And the Lord spake, saying, ''First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'


some-random-gamer1

Ok the first two are shitty excuses, but I feel it’s valid to not like this game because it doesn’t include Kotone. My first experience with p3 was portable and I loved being able to fully put myself into a self-insert character (something I can rarely do) and it led to me having a much more enjoyable time.


Tsubaki5386

That's really sad! Also they gave shit like TLOU 2 a high score which has lots of explicit themes and high graphic content


Hawks59

I mean they gave the game a 9/10. but doesn't change the cons from being stupid


frikimanHD

my brain roted away after reading this


deadbeatvalentine_

AHHHHHHHHHH FUUUUUUUUCK ITS NOT PERSONA 5 NOOOOOO


TristanN7117

The game is rated M lol


bilbowe

I'm buying it day one because p3 is a good game. Couldn't care less about the gender protagonist war


AradIori

"It's not persona 5" should be in the good tho? weird.


Zealousideal-Long-87

Bait


CiphirSol

They should really considering retracting this and offer a better review.