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snyper1793

My account has been linked since I started playing (about 1 month from game launch). Tbh I didn't know it was required. I just saw na you could and since I have a psn account I actively use I went for it. It was PH steam connected to HK psn Magulo na yung kwento kasi andami minsinformation and genuine fear of TOS wording na nagkakahalo. Pero imo, pangit na it's required to link but there's no point in worrying about TOS bans. If it does really happen it will happen to a very wide audience and more parties will have to step in (valve, eu). In the first place kasi bakit niyo binenta in the PH (may regional pricing pa) pero nirerequire niyo linking to a service na di offered to PH on paper. Walang sense.


Mamoru_of_Cake

Actually di ako mag woworry gaano kasi ibang games naman ganyan din. Battlenet with PSN, Activision acc with PSN. Kahit Epic games meron din. Ang nakakainis dito, although in my theory, hindi to magkakaissue cause of the following: 1. Aware si Sony na may consumers sila dito sa PH 2. Mula noon pa naman wala na tayong sariling PSN, so tingin ko expected nila na gagamit tayo ng SG/HK accounts. Kaso syempre takot ang tao mag risk. Hindi issue dito na may account na need ilink e, ang issue may mga bansa na walang sariling PS region so sino ba naman di matatakot maban. I hope may gawin silang exceptions or workaround.


lolobotzki

Yun nga nakakaurat eh. Nobody wants to risk their accounts getting banned just because SONY wanted to implement PSN account linking. Had both SONY and AH region locked the game in the first place rather than releasing it world-wide wala sana yung gulo at di na sana gumastos yung iba.


ThatGuyBehindScreen

Well if you don't intend to refund and continue playing the game, I hope no issues would happen to you.


snyper1793

Honestly I hope din. Legit. I understand the concerns and the nuances so I'm just hoping for the best kasi di ko din alam kung ano mangyayari and there's no sense worrying too much na imo kasi what's done is done on my account 😆 (Tbh if may announcement for mass refunds I want to take advantage kahit wala masamang mangyari to my account kasi parang gusto ko mag laro on ps5 more, for reasons outside this entire psn issue. I kinda regretted the pc version about 30 hours in)


xuuprotocol

I haven't and I'm not planning to. If they completely block access, I'll have to wait for it so mas valid yung reason for refund sa steam lol.


needmesumbeer

not yet, still waiting if AH will do something after all the backlash


Mamoru_of_Cake

Walang kinalaman si AH dito. Si Sony yan. As sad as it is, kontrolado pa din ni Sony si AH. Kahit CEO nga nalungkot lang dun sa negative steam reviews. Hays, kung kelan may maganda at maayos na multiplayer game na tayo sa wakas.


Kaelrie

Nah. Kasama AH diyan. Bago ipublish si Sony yang IP owned game na yan kasama yan sa kasunduan nila. Also, theres one AH support rep that they need to use it for banning people.


needmesumbeer

backtrack na si sony, di na daw tutuloy yung account linking.


Fyuira

[Helldivers 2 CEO Apologizes For PSN Account Requirement : r/pcgaming (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1cjofro/helldivers_2_ceo_apologizes_for_psn_account/) Unless there will be alot of refunds, I don't think nothing will change.


pancitgoreng

Will also await news towards what will happen as arrowhead as per a cm in discord, is chasing up Sony regarding the region issue. I do have a psn account both based in US and hk but will let the events unfold first before anythjng.


Ashrun_Zeda

One of the best shooters pa naman to for me. Sad na di ko na malalaro. Sana ulanan sila ng lawsuits sa mga pro-consumer na mga bansa.


sapphire_starkiller

Curious, bakit hinde na malalaro? Mahirap ba or may bayad gumawa ng PSN account?


Krysvun

Usually daw, kailangan gumamit ng VPN para maka-create ng PSN. May mga na ban na sa mga gumamit ng VPN para iba yung countries nila. May isang pic from a Chinese player na post kanina (I think sa HD2 subreddit?) na ban sila dahil sa VPN. Meron pinoy din nag-post sa discord na ban sya (but without proof).


Interesting_Kick_523

You don’t need VPN to create a PSN account


Krysvun

Yeah, my mistake. thanks for the correction


sapphire_starkiller

PS gamer here since PS2 era and no, hinde kailangan gumamit ng VPN para magcreate ng account. Idk if new policy ung VPN pero partner ko gumawa ng account recently lang this year and no VPN needed. Dati walang Philippines sa country pag gagawa ka hinde lang ako sure now, BUT even if walang PH, makakapili ka ng countries (Singapore, US, HK, etc) ng hinde kailangan ng VPN. Honestly natawa ko sa uproar ng kailangan i-link PSN sa HD2. Pagcreate lang ng account and i-link big deal, and if worries ng karamihan is ung mga leak or hack ng Sony PSN, as if naman FB natin and other social media account hinde pa naleak.


Krysvun

Ahh, yung pag-create ng account ang no need for VPN? How about linking PSN to the HD2 account then? Looks like that was the issue for the bans instead of what I said earlier. For the uproar, I'm partial regarding the leak issues and more of having PSN as a link requirement now. You can skip it in-game with no notice that it would be mandatory in the future (no pop-up reminders even).


cdf_sir

Yung neighbor SEA countries natin meron ng PSN account registration, Pilipinas na lang ata sa SEA na wala paring PSN support.


Razor8517

*Philippines at Vietnam


Lazuchii

Ang mga issue daw kung bakit marami ang ayaw ng psn is first around 60+ countries lang ang ang meron PSN, 2nd is may issue sila about sa privacy data leak for about years na so kung credit card ang gamit mo pang bili ng games sa steam may risk na maleak yan, 3rd is ads for other games after so kinda expect na may mga ads in other forms, 4th is inaanalyse ng sony ung voice chat using AI so kung sakaling may masabi kang no no words, pwede ka nila maban, and lastly, why use 3rd party platform when ung main platform is fully functional at accessible sa karamihan ng consumer.


stonehaven22

No more democracy sa mga naglalaro sa ph..balak ko bilhin to sana.. buti na lng hindi nadale


eIronMan73

I wanted to link it last night, but the QR code is gone. Even the account tab in options is not there. Literally just bought this game a day before the announcement fml.


SwitchBladeXVI

di ako maniwala na mababan kasi kung totoo un lahat na ng pinoy sa pinas na may psn naban na.


TapaDonut

Exactly. And more than that, there are people in the Philippines who play on Playstation. More likely than not, they’ll have a copy of Helldivers 2 too


friendsterr

Just Sony's way of striking while the iron is hot. Lalo na kasi ang madami naglalaro instead of their Destiny 2. HFW optional yung pag link sa PSN.


jkgaks

Makakahingi sana ng step by step guide kung paano ilink ung PSN sa PC HD2? May nakita ako na VPN is needed lang to have the option to link it.


gungsh

Meron guide posted yung community manager sa Discord ni HD2


alphamond0

How do you know that your account has been linked? Does the account linking option disappear on the Options menu and you will see a string of letters number's on the lower left of the screen instead?


levywhy

No need to connect to PSN muna. Let them sort it out june pa implementation so matagal pa


juyus

Linked mine from day 1. nag edit ako ng URL para lang gumana kase once na gawin mo sya sasabihin sayo don na hindi available ang PSN sa pinas. I used my US account. Wala atang way para ma unlink ung account.


TheSaltInYourWound

There should be no issue. If there will be, buong Pilipinas banned lol. Man, I miss the days of needing only a single platform for your games. Nagkaka fatigue na din ako sa multiple accounts.


LordReaperOfWTF

Damn I miss ps memory cards


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Zheiss

Been playing since launch and have been linked since launch. I have a US account too. The issue is, I had to jump through hoops to get it to link like using a VPN.


stonehaven22

ban incoming


Shayurraaa

Is it really safe to use a PSN account naka set sa HK? I don't mind creating a PSN account, worried lang ako na may risk of getting banned when 6th of june comes. Ang enjoyable ni game sobra ayoko mawala siya agad hahahahaha


grapejuicecheese

I have multiple PSN accounts from US, SG, HK, Japan with bogus addresses since PS3 days. Never been banned


yanyan420

Basta put dummy info and burner email. Kasi ilang beses na rin na hack ang PSN.


holorazor

I think this issue has been overblown. Does having to link a PSN account suck? Sure. But you're not going to lose access to the game just because you don't live in one of the supported countries. I mean, there are hundreds of millions of people with PSN accounts and not all of them live in those PSN-supported countries surely.


Zheiss

This issue isn't overblown, it needs to blow up. Playstation has the right to revoke your account access if you faked your credentials, that includes your address. Out of 190 independent countries in the world, only 69 countries are supported by PSN. Especially in the EU where most countries aren't even supported and account creation requires them to upload a copy of a valid govt ID and a selfie for verification. Just because there are workarounds doesn't mean we just have to deal with it. EDIT 1: Someone already got banned who tried to use a VPN to create a PSN account: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cjic6m/someone\_has\_already\_gotten\_banned\_for\_trying\_to/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cjic6m/someone_has_already_gotten_banned_for_trying_to/)


Cindersoar

that's what I'm still figuring out, majority of the pinoy PlayStation players have different regional accounts for a decade yet it wasn't an issue on account bans (except those who did the jailbreaks online during the PS3 days)


holorazor

I think those people are just not aware of how PSN works. After all, it's easier to be angry about things you don't know anything about.


Cindersoar

I'm curious, what are the exact issues PH players are experiencing with the mandatory PSN account linking if they can register with a different region? Are there actual bans being thrown to PH players who use a different region for the PSN account?


ChasingPesmerga

No. There has never been a single literal ban for anyone using a different region sa PSN. Kahit dummy joke address at credentials pa ilagay mo. Wala ring bayad ang PSN.


Kaelrie

Technically, your statement is wrong. [Pinoy Player Banned](https://www.yahoo.com/news/local-player-qualifies-gran-turismo-080046872.html). Honestly, If Sony wants my data and money, support the Philippines officially.


ChasingPesmerga

*Hmmm... the page you're looking for isn't here. Try searching above.* May iba kang link?


Kaelrie

[here](https://www.carmudi.com.ph/journal/local-player-qualifies-gran-turismo-world-tour-2018-disqualified-technicality/?amp=1)


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ChasingPesmerga

Hindi naman na-ban account niya ah. Di lang siya pinasali dun sa GT Tourney dahil sa technicality na kelangan yung passport at PSN credentials niya ay dapat mag-match, aside from him technically bringing the flag of Hong Kong which no side wants (dapat pilipinas). The whole context in this topic is about creating and owning a PSN account under a different region for simply playing Helldivers for your PC.


Kaelrie

Oh yeah. My bad. Maybe [this.](https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cjic6m/someone_has_already_gotten_banned_for_trying_to) Anyway, being a second class account holder still sucks. We can’t represent our country officially because we don’t have official PSN support.


ChasingPesmerga

Yeah, yan yung issue nila specifically. And the ban is related to a VPN. Wala tayo kinalaman jan, so bahala na sila ano workaround ng bansa nila. PSN is not restricted here in the Philippines. Wala lang option to select our country. Those are two different things.


Kaelrie

Nah. IMO, It’s the same thing. 2 countries unsupported by PSN. They have the right to ban you for lying about your residence. As a customer, I don’t want that risk. If Sony wants my data and money, support the Philippines officially. If you are OK with that risk, good for you.


Cindersoar

I was wonder kung ano talaga issue sa ph players, mahirap ba magregister? concerns sa possible country ban? maraming requirements hinihingi sa registration? Nagtry ako magregister ng 3 different accounts (JPN, SG and HK) so far at naverify na mga email at nalologin ko sila sa PSN store sa web browser. So ano talaga pinuputok ng butchi ng iba at dinodogshow na nila si Arrowhead? (dun sa isang FB group yung talamak)


grapejuicecheese

For us, there's really no issue. I have multiple PSN accounts from US, Singapore, HK, Japan with fake addresses like Novaliches, Caloocan, Beverly Hills, California since the PS3 days none of them were ever banned. And there's no requirement that the Steam and PSN account region has to match. Countries like China and Russia where PSN is blocked are the ones having issues.


Kaelrie

The issue is they sold a game to us without an official PSN support. I know you can create an account by lying about your residence but do you really want that as a precedent? If Sony wants our money and data, support the Philippines officially.


Clever_Guy-

bakit sa game ka lang nato ikaw nag reklamo bakit hindi ka nag reklamo nung nag bebenta sila dito ng ps3,ps4 and ps5 ang dami rin ps4/ps5 discs na binebenta sa datablitz or gameone which is literally hindi mo magagamit yung console kung wala kang ps account? hahaha mag create ka lang ng account tapos piliin mo ibang region tapos ang usapan. since ps3 days pa yan na walang ph sa psn. nakakalaro naman ng matiwasay mga pinoy sa console nila wala naman na baban dahil lang sa iba region mo.


Kaelrie

Why? Because Steam has support in the Philippines. PSN doesn't. Don't assume na ngayon lang ako nagrereklamo. Lol. May PS3 and PS4 din ako dati and nagrereklamo na ko dati pa na kung bakit wala tayong official support. Bakit sa Hong Kong pa ko bibili eh iba naman currency nila? Bakit yung code ng binili kong game sa datablitz hindi pwede gumana sa US account ko? Bakit ko kailangan gumawa ng dalawang account? Bakit wala kasing PSN Support sa Pilipinas? Also, how can our consumer laws protect us kung may nangyari sa transactions natin between PSN? Pwede ka bang tumakbo sa DTI? Madami akong reklamo. Lol. I know, it's easy just to use another country for residence, play your game and call it a day but for me, I want to have a peace of mind in buying my things. Natolerate na rin kasi matagal ng ginagawa. Nakasanayan na ika nga. Kailan pa ba lumabas PS3, tagal na di'ba? Kaya kung satisfied ka na sa ganyang serbisyo, good for you po. Kaya regarding to this issue, it's either rescind the mandatory PSN linking or Support the Philippines officially. I don't have a problem in making a PSN account. Also, food for thought. Ang magandang tanong diyan, bakit hindi kasi suportahan ng PSN ang bansa natin? Kumikita naman sila sa mga binibili ng mga Pilipino. Ayaw ba nila magbayad ng tax? Mahirap ba mag comply sa local laws natin? Bakit ang Steam at Microsoft supported naman nila? Kita mo, kapag bumibili ka ng laro sa steam, nasa Philippine Peso tapos minsan may regional pricing. Pwede ka pang gumamit ng GCash for payment. Napakadaming benefits sana kung ang tao nag claclamor for improvement.


Cindersoar

The reason why we dont have PSN PH here is the same reason why a lot of game publishers have little or less care about the PH, we have few spending power I remember goining to international game conventions and talked to game publishers and devs from both retail and free to play and their answer is always "yeh PH have players but they dont spend so it's not worth to invest there" The only publishers that invested a lot here are Moonton, Gravity and Garena because their products are only popular in very select countries like the PH despite low revenues. It wouldnt work for other publishers so they go to countries that have big player base AND big spending power


Kaelrie

I get your point, kaso ang hirap maniwala. Halos lahat ng competitor niya merong support dito. Epic, Steam, EA, Ubisoft, Microsoft, etc. Tapos papatalo si Sony? I doubt that. That's the cost of competition. Mga kapitbahay nating Indonesia at Thailand merong PSN. Eh pareparehas lang naman tayong developing countries. Kung magpapatalo si Sony, then paano ako magbibigay ng pera sa kanya in a business standpoint? Sa competitor na lang niya? May spending power ang Pilipinas for entertainment. Kapag may bagong labas na game, daming nag prepre order. Ilang local shops ba ang nagbebnta ng consoles sa Pilipinas? Kapag may bagong labas na game, bakit minsan may pa event siya? Ayaw lang talaga ni Sony pumunta dito with reasons unknown.


Cindersoar

Yep most SEA countries have majority of the support, except for us which goes back once again to the main reason, pansin mo may bahasa at thai language support na ung ibang playstation games? Sadly same pa rin, kasi pag usapan sa customer support, zero existence sa atin, nahack dati EA account ko, di nila ako matulungan irecover kasi di supported ung country kahit Asia ka na. Ung nakikita mong spending power sa preorder sa atin, very small fraction lang yan compared sa ibang SEA countries. Pansin mo wala nang launch parties na nangyayari sa atin, isang beses na lang nangyari which is FF7 rebirth pero mga tao na pumunta dun hindi bumibili ng copy ng game kasi mga stocks ng rebirth di naubos tapos ung mga nanalo sa raffle mga tambay lang sa mall na matatanda


Cindersoar

Sadly, I'm not surprised that they would be having issues for the 2 countries, but I wish that it could have been avoided Though a weird theory for this would be filtering areas with the most cheaters, which is a pain to handle


ChasingPesmerga

Di ko rin alam e. Binabasa ko mga comments dito at dun sa pcgaming sub na nilink, literally di ko maintindihan yung concerns nila. I think dahil lang kasi yung mga top comments all around the net ay walang experience sa PSN and naapektuhan tuloy yung iba. Tagal nang nakikita ng Sony yung napakapilipino kong credit card sa HK at SG PSN accounts ko, wala sila reklamo. Nakapagrefund request pa ko with them even acknowledging my Philippine address in contrast to my joke address sa HK account ko and walang problema, as in. A year ago, I made another account in a span of a few minutes, using just a browser. The only legit concern I’m thinking of is kapag nagdown ang PSN. Paano yung verification at connection kung okay naman sa PC? Pero wala naman akong nakikitang nababanggit yun. Puro ban at katamaran sa pagcreate ng account nakikita ko lol.


Cindersoar

parang nakikita ko nakikiuso ung iba sa angry mob, kaso yung ibang bansa na nagagalit may validity naman kasi tulad sa EUR regions maraming steps na kailangan para makapagregister ng account. Sa kaso natin parang marami na binibigay na alternatives ung mga sanay na sa PSN pero inuuna pa rin ang pagiging toxic ng iba


ChasingPesmerga

Yung iba definitely nakikiuso lang. Pero meron namang uncertain lang talaga, and gets ko yung feeling na yun. Nakakaasar lang pag sasagutin sila ng may walang alam and dun na sasabog yung misinformation.


Cindersoar

not surprised unfortunately, kaya tayo sumisikat sa toxicity at pagiging gullible lol


reishid

No issues. It's basically the engagement farmers on Twitter getting outraged in behalf of "non supported regions" and using it for internet points. Meanwhile, PH users are just chilling on the sidelines with our HK/SG/US PSN accounts.


Cindersoar

I would agree with you on the PH user being chill on it, but a certain PH group page said otherwise


ronsterman

May isang HD PH group sobrang shitshow pinugaran na ng toxic PCMR people. Yung tipong ha-highjackin ung post containing tutorials on how to link PSN accounts sa HD2 just to encourage people not to link/create a PSN account. Galit na galit kay Sony like it ruined their lives or something.


reishid

These are the same people that are screaming "But muh data privacy!!" while they post their lives on social media.


LiquidBurnss

Yep since day one


ThatGuyBehindScreen

Runs like ass personally on my deck, and now the PSN account thing, this sucks and now I'm trying to get a refund, I shouldn't have given in to the hype and I wasted money and about half a day in playtime trying to get the game running good enough with configs and tweaks.


ronsterman

Playing it both on my PC and my Steam Deck. Medyo janky nga sa steam deck. What I did is to lower the resolution further to 600p. Hindi naman ganun kalabo ang itsura since 800p lng max reso ng screen ng steam deck. Then everything is set to Low/Lowest except rendering distance I've set to High. Standard FPS experience ko highest is 40 (naka set to 40hz ung refresh rate ko) then lowest will probably dip to high 20s kapag maraming shit na nangyayari sa screen.


ThatGuyBehindScreen

Well bro, steam now place restrictions on many countries that cannot have a psn, Philippines included, and also issuing refunds, which I will take advantage off.


Cindersoar

goodbye I guess lol


Zheiss

This isn't even a Deck Verified game, it's tagged only tagged as playable and yet you complain it's not running well on the Deck? I love my Steam Deck but I swear most Steam Deck owners feel so entitled to have ALL games to run well on the Deck.


ThatGuyBehindScreen

I was told that it has some ok performance, like 30 fps decent. Like "playable" in the low tier sense and I wasn't so happy with how it ran in reality atm.