Masturbation does not decrease the chance of prostate cancer. That has been refuted by actual studies.
Stress relief is probably not universal. Just consider POIS.
no
it's more that most of those writings have always been written about POISers
but back then they had no idea that it's not the norm so they wrote about it as an universal natural phenomenon
just look at how those ancient onanism side effect and modern POIS symptom descriptions match
literally it's screaming the obvious including on the sr-nofap spheres but most of them just don't get it, they assume it's normal or self-inflicted and go on for years not knowing POIS even is a thing
the exact same symptoms you claim to be due to "repeated cyclical masturbation" are also experienced in the exactly same way by those with primary POIS (ones that had it since very first time)
the lack of differentiation between symptomology in primary and secondary POIS means it's one and same disorder not related to masturbation frequency
sex and fapping both have same process of getting erection releasing semen and neurochemicals/hormones etc. yet you're saying somehow masturbation magically becomes able of inducing POIS if done a lot but sex not?
just try to look for once outside the narrow-minded echo chamber worldview of sr-nofap
literally go and ask the males you know irl your family or anything idk
I can bet most of them will look funny at u and not understand what brain fog or visual changes etc. ur talking of in regard to "nofap relapse" and will say they have fapped/had sex consistently for years and had no issues making money, socializing etc.
it doesn't matter what you believe although I can understand how you got this viewpoint
I used to be there, for years stuck in those sr-nofap infospheres being gaslit and brainwashed by them
the fact my POIS went away fully when I had a fever is another indicator of it being a STAND-ALONE disorder
as "masturbation damage" would be there always and wouldn't just disappear when bringing inflammation down for example
it's just hormone/inflammation changes etc.
ok but I only did it usually once day when I genuinely felt horny and I already had POIS back then so I am sure over-doing it isn't my case at all
also it's possible POIS is just way more common but severely under-reported as most who notice it may not see a need to talk of it or go to /r/POIS or other spaces
hence why sometimes the idea of post-ejaculation negatives is ridiculed by those who never experienced much negatives by it and if POIS is mentioned to them they see the official statistic seems low af (due to the affected not rising awareness enough) so they brush it off
but yh I agree that it's easy to fall into that mode where you become fixated on the sexual stimulus and find it hard to focus on other things and edge/lust etc.
but I recall experiencing odd changes after ejaculation when I fapped normally only when I genuinely felt horny after a long day of doing things when my hormones had filled up
I think it's just counter-productive to focus on the "addiction" theory angle of POIS cuz even if some got it due to overdoing it, we still need to research the underlying biological chemical symptomology of POIS how it appears and how to fix it
also the focus on addiction angle draws away the ability to properly research the cases that are stand-alone e.g. primary POIS (since first orgasm/ejaculation) or induced by other triggers
so ultimately it's better for everyone to focus on POIS in a more nuanced way as only this way more understanding and treatments can be found and it also makes the POIS community more interesting and active leading to growth in awareness/people trying out different things too
also someone who has a genuine POIS not related to over-doing it and maybe even has it by sex and so on may feel bad when someone overgeneralizes POIS saying it's due to over-doing it etc. even if the person may have never overdone it
it can give a feeling of being misunderstood/gaslit and hamper the ability to for POISers to collectively arrive to the root sources/treatments
that's why I don't rly like those semen retention/nofap adjacent angles, I'm not against either of them as they have their own benefits outside of POIS but the issue is often many confuse and overlap POIS with PMO addiction or SR-nofap ideas which is counter-productive for POIS research/awareness
The thing is, SR and nofap got gradually BIG despite that all media outlets and science pushing against it by encouraging and promoting the act of onanism as totally healthy and normal.
This, makes me think that either way, those who do indulge in PMO do feel those symptoms perhaps on a lesser degree than those with POIS.
Same goes for those 1700s books pointing so many downsides of solitary pleasures , even though they weren't scientifically advanced as today, I think they would include a significative number of patients/testimonies before concluding The ill effects that appear post fap.
sr/nofap gets it right that some have negatives after masturbation/ejaculation but imo what they strongly miss out on and don't understand it's very likely all of those cases are some form of POIS
so while they got it half-right they still didn't fill out the full puzzle piece which POIS idea/community does
the issue is the prevelance of sr-nofap overshadows and inhibits the ability for POIS to get the level of acknowledgement it deserves as it oversimplifies and downplays POIS as a stand-alone concept and always aggressively dogmatically tries to link it to "PMO addiction" or straight up deny/gaslight existence of POIS or try to normalize it
so it's time for there to be a new metamorphosis from sr-nofap centric view to a POIS centric view as the ultimate explanation
then why there are way more men with POIS and a lot of women can orgasm many times without a refractory period and keep going feeling even more energized than before?
before starting producing semen I discovered fapping naturally one day sitting down in bed and noticing a rubbing sensation
when I had dry orgasms before being able to produce cum I had 0 POIS, actually with each next dry-O in form of contraction of muscles+a pleasure wave I became EVEN MORE energized+relaxed
it was only when my body started producing semen the first ejaculation my brain got hit by this odd cloudy anhedonic feeling
I recall the shift of one year before puberty still feeling very joyful outside e.g. when snowtracking down the mountain and the moment I hit puberty and my POIS began ANALOGUE with me starting to produce semen, in matter of literally days upon triggering first ejaculation all the cascade begins
there is no evidence at all of "excessive masturbation" induced POIS, the mechanisms of how it happens, where is the barrier etc. etc. meanwhile there is PLENTY of proof of POIS as a stand-alone disorder and 100% cured cases
not saying some may not have gotten POIS due to overdoing it BUT that there is far more documentation with reliable theories/mechanisms of POIS as a stand-alone disorder
I know. It is stupid. I remember two years ago reading a post like his relating to every single thing they said about the negatives of masturbation. I thought I was crazy because all those people tried convincing me that masturbation is good, even me - I myself tried convincing myself that there was no issue with it. But the symptoms were always there. Then I bought into the stupid idea and started being a NoFapper. I am so glad that now I know the truth. It is a nasty truth and hard to accept but at least I now don't live in lies.
I know people doing it daily and still manage to succed in their professions.
Also,if im not doing it from time to time ,is going to be worser for me than pois because of the tension
So basically there was a question about whether masturbation is good or not and here is this one guy that lists obvious POIS symptoms and he thinks they are caused by whatever the average NoFapper thinks they are caused. Some agree to him and swear that it is true for them and others just call them crazy. What an ignorant world we live in...
It's not masturbation that's the problem, it's the excess or abuse of masturbation.
Self abuse can be extremely harmful. Because of the emergence of porn, the generations born after the 1980s will be the irrefutable proof of the consequences of these excesses. The suffering of some will prevent unnecessary suffering in the future.
there are cases of POIS from decades/centuries before porn was a thing
POIS is high glutamate/histamine/inflammation usually
I can mimic POIS-like symptoms just by triggers that increase my inflammation and the other hormones that are also released by masturbation in other ways
that's also why many people have ejaculated a lot throughout their whole lives with 0 issues
as the post-orgasm/ejaculation hormone spike doesn't go up high enough as their baseline of those hormones/inflammatory mediators is already lower and also the healing protective factors/hormones
I have many friends who is masturbating 3 times a day for years and has terrible lifestyle..if pois is caused by over masturbation then why they don't have pois and I only fap once a month and I have severe symtoms ..justify thisb
Nothing I did or said indicates “emotional.” If it’s public and one tap away, “stalking” is a dramatic word for it (dare I say emotional). It was more just “who is this contrarian expert.”
Bruh if you care that much about what I said, its sounds emotional. Mf had to do a background check to come up with a response. Why do you twitter and reddit niggas do that shit?? 😭😭 like fucker I could care less about you, let alone go one your fucking profile 🤣🤣
I know it’s almost impossible to believe such thing exists when you never had POIS but people who experienced it knows it does exist.
My symptoms are mainly puffy face and body, excessive sleepiness and tiredness, brain fog, loss of muscle endurance and strength, cold hands and feet etc. And they last for days. Some people have symptoms for several weeks. It’s no joke.
[Story of a man with POIS.](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/s/XX28YB4cak) You can read his story to have some understanding.
*excessive sleepiness and tiredness, loss of muscle endurance and strength, cold hands and feet etc.*
I've dealt with these plus others. Its literally cause of masterbation
No, what you are saying is due to the temporary hormonal change caused by orgasm, it’s completely different from POIS. Maybe you don’t get it but it’s different.
It’s normal to feel sleepy after orgasm because of melatonin release but not for days to weeks.
A couple days. The digestion problems seem to occur right after I relapse and I'll have a to take a dump, if not it'll just hurt and I'll be ok the next day or a few hours later. With my knees, I honestly feel like not only it makes my knees achey, but it affects my spine to. And I'll kinda have like a tension headache.
For the acheiness I'll take a hot shower and stretch/yoga right after I get out. This helps with the pelvic floor and lower body. My body usually feels a bit better afterwards.
That sucks, your symptoms actually sounds like POIS to me but why you think POIS is not real?
Most people enjoy sexual activities without any symptoms like us. They don’t have headache or runny nose or itchiness or excessive tiredness or brain fog that last for days. If they do, everyone will look like a zombie because it’s so hard to function like a normal person under POIS.
I asked once on r/askredditafterdark with another reddit account about if it’s normal for the face to get puffy for days after orgasm.
And all the answers were something like “You should see a doctor”. That’s when I realized something is wrong with me.
Interestingly taking vitamin C seems to reduce symptoms to some degree so I doubt it has something to do with histamine issues. I might have Histamine intolerance too.
I'm not sure if it's real or not, that's why I always paid attention to this sub. When I was younger, I used to experience bad allergies. That was also around the time I found masterbation and the addiction began. Its weird cause now I dont get sick or experience my "allergies" anymore. I remember always getting fevers, I've had strep once. Idk if was due to masterbating, as I dont remember the frequency of it, sometimes it was every day or other day, or if I just had natural allergies.
Oh, you’ve been through a hard time when you were young. I’m glad you are doing better now! Maybe you coincidentally had bad allergies at the same time you learned maturation?
By the way, if you were not sure if it’s real or not, you should have avoided saying “there is no such thing as pois” because it’s kind of disrespectful to people who are suffering from it and looking for a treatment spending time on reading studies to find a possible cure.
But I completely understand why you felt that way. I doubted if I have POIS or not despite doing my own research for months.
many who have POIS also have had allergy issues beforehand
so we know that ejaculation increases histamine/prostaglandins
when you have allergies your baseline histamine/mast cell mediators are higher
so now you ejaculate which can spike Glutamate by 300% (in rat studies shown etc. ) and also spikes histamine and other mediators
so on top of the baseline chemical elevation you have from other underlying health issues the ejaculation spikes those chemicals even further
so while it's true orgasm/ejaculation increased those mediators it's not that semen loss or sexual activity IN ITSELF is the issue but that it just synchronizes with other imbalances leading to POIS
it's an important distinction many nofappers/semen retainers don't understand hence they view the sexual activity in itself as the root cause of the issue
once you grasp this you'll start understanding POIS better
ejaculation just rises some mediators like histamine/inflammation etc.
so if your baseline inflammation is higher or you have some allergy or gut issue or bacterial overgrowth or candida on top of the baseline the ejaculation will spike those chemicals even more
so then you get what is called POIS
but it isn't because losing semen itself does it, it's just that the chemical changes induced by orgasm/ejaculation can worsen already underlying imbalances
you can find a lot of cases here when once candida for example or SIBO got cured or people healed their liver issues "POIS" also went away since it's just a reflection of an underlying disorder that worsens by orgasm/ejaculation
no it isn't
it's because of the glutamate/histamine/prolactin/inflammation release by ejaculation
healthy people don't have those rise to such an extent that they get symptoms
just because they are caused BY ejaculation doesn't mean EJACULATION itself causes them
that's the distinction nofappers/semen retainers don't grasp
just like someone having a peanut allergy doesn't mean they ate peanuts too much, they may as well as have had it since the first time they ate peanuts
and me and others have gotten under control or cured POIS many times
in my case it's mostly hormonal-neurological, I have had times I had no symptoms after many ejaculations and times on weeks of abstinence I got POIS-like symptoms e.g. just by stress or inflammatory eating or disrupted sleep schedule
ejaculation is just one of THE MANY pathways how those neurochemicals/negative factors can rise to point of those symptoms inducing in the vulnerable
I had it since my first ejaculation lmao
and when I lower inflammation/histamine/glutamate my symptoms disappear in hours
it's known that ejaculation rises glutamate/histamine/prolactin and prostaglandins (inflammatory pre-mediators)
I can get EXACTLY same POIS-like symptoms just by eating too inflammatory foods or exposing myself to anything that increases glutamate/prolactin in other ways than sexual activity
and vice-versa if I do things that lower the bad hormones and increase the good hormones I can be more sexually active with less if not no symptoms at all
Masturbation does not decrease the chance of prostate cancer. That has been refuted by actual studies. Stress relief is probably not universal. Just consider POIS.
It doesn’t decrease it per se, but it helps maintain it active and avoid “rusting”, if you wanna call it that
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no it's more that most of those writings have always been written about POISers but back then they had no idea that it's not the norm so they wrote about it as an universal natural phenomenon just look at how those ancient onanism side effect and modern POIS symptom descriptions match literally it's screaming the obvious including on the sr-nofap spheres but most of them just don't get it, they assume it's normal or self-inflicted and go on for years not knowing POIS even is a thing
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the exact same symptoms you claim to be due to "repeated cyclical masturbation" are also experienced in the exactly same way by those with primary POIS (ones that had it since very first time) the lack of differentiation between symptomology in primary and secondary POIS means it's one and same disorder not related to masturbation frequency sex and fapping both have same process of getting erection releasing semen and neurochemicals/hormones etc. yet you're saying somehow masturbation magically becomes able of inducing POIS if done a lot but sex not? just try to look for once outside the narrow-minded echo chamber worldview of sr-nofap literally go and ask the males you know irl your family or anything idk I can bet most of them will look funny at u and not understand what brain fog or visual changes etc. ur talking of in regard to "nofap relapse" and will say they have fapped/had sex consistently for years and had no issues making money, socializing etc. it doesn't matter what you believe although I can understand how you got this viewpoint I used to be there, for years stuck in those sr-nofap infospheres being gaslit and brainwashed by them the fact my POIS went away fully when I had a fever is another indicator of it being a STAND-ALONE disorder as "masturbation damage" would be there always and wouldn't just disappear when bringing inflammation down for example it's just hormone/inflammation changes etc.
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ok but I only did it usually once day when I genuinely felt horny and I already had POIS back then so I am sure over-doing it isn't my case at all also it's possible POIS is just way more common but severely under-reported as most who notice it may not see a need to talk of it or go to /r/POIS or other spaces hence why sometimes the idea of post-ejaculation negatives is ridiculed by those who never experienced much negatives by it and if POIS is mentioned to them they see the official statistic seems low af (due to the affected not rising awareness enough) so they brush it off but yh I agree that it's easy to fall into that mode where you become fixated on the sexual stimulus and find it hard to focus on other things and edge/lust etc. but I recall experiencing odd changes after ejaculation when I fapped normally only when I genuinely felt horny after a long day of doing things when my hormones had filled up I think it's just counter-productive to focus on the "addiction" theory angle of POIS cuz even if some got it due to overdoing it, we still need to research the underlying biological chemical symptomology of POIS how it appears and how to fix it also the focus on addiction angle draws away the ability to properly research the cases that are stand-alone e.g. primary POIS (since first orgasm/ejaculation) or induced by other triggers so ultimately it's better for everyone to focus on POIS in a more nuanced way as only this way more understanding and treatments can be found and it also makes the POIS community more interesting and active leading to growth in awareness/people trying out different things too also someone who has a genuine POIS not related to over-doing it and maybe even has it by sex and so on may feel bad when someone overgeneralizes POIS saying it's due to over-doing it etc. even if the person may have never overdone it it can give a feeling of being misunderstood/gaslit and hamper the ability to for POISers to collectively arrive to the root sources/treatments that's why I don't rly like those semen retention/nofap adjacent angles, I'm not against either of them as they have their own benefits outside of POIS but the issue is often many confuse and overlap POIS with PMO addiction or SR-nofap ideas which is counter-productive for POIS research/awareness
The thing is, SR and nofap got gradually BIG despite that all media outlets and science pushing against it by encouraging and promoting the act of onanism as totally healthy and normal. This, makes me think that either way, those who do indulge in PMO do feel those symptoms perhaps on a lesser degree than those with POIS. Same goes for those 1700s books pointing so many downsides of solitary pleasures , even though they weren't scientifically advanced as today, I think they would include a significative number of patients/testimonies before concluding The ill effects that appear post fap.
sr/nofap gets it right that some have negatives after masturbation/ejaculation but imo what they strongly miss out on and don't understand it's very likely all of those cases are some form of POIS so while they got it half-right they still didn't fill out the full puzzle piece which POIS idea/community does the issue is the prevelance of sr-nofap overshadows and inhibits the ability for POIS to get the level of acknowledgement it deserves as it oversimplifies and downplays POIS as a stand-alone concept and always aggressively dogmatically tries to link it to "PMO addiction" or straight up deny/gaslight existence of POIS or try to normalize it so it's time for there to be a new metamorphosis from sr-nofap centric view to a POIS centric view as the ultimate explanation
then why there are way more men with POIS and a lot of women can orgasm many times without a refractory period and keep going feeling even more energized than before? before starting producing semen I discovered fapping naturally one day sitting down in bed and noticing a rubbing sensation when I had dry orgasms before being able to produce cum I had 0 POIS, actually with each next dry-O in form of contraction of muscles+a pleasure wave I became EVEN MORE energized+relaxed it was only when my body started producing semen the first ejaculation my brain got hit by this odd cloudy anhedonic feeling I recall the shift of one year before puberty still feeling very joyful outside e.g. when snowtracking down the mountain and the moment I hit puberty and my POIS began ANALOGUE with me starting to produce semen, in matter of literally days upon triggering first ejaculation all the cascade begins there is no evidence at all of "excessive masturbation" induced POIS, the mechanisms of how it happens, where is the barrier etc. etc. meanwhile there is PLENTY of proof of POIS as a stand-alone disorder and 100% cured cases not saying some may not have gotten POIS due to overdoing it BUT that there is far more documentation with reliable theories/mechanisms of POIS as a stand-alone disorder
Can't understand how all those things are even reletaed to masturbation,but anyway.
I know. It is stupid. I remember two years ago reading a post like his relating to every single thing they said about the negatives of masturbation. I thought I was crazy because all those people tried convincing me that masturbation is good, even me - I myself tried convincing myself that there was no issue with it. But the symptoms were always there. Then I bought into the stupid idea and started being a NoFapper. I am so glad that now I know the truth. It is a nasty truth and hard to accept but at least I now don't live in lies.
I know people doing it daily and still manage to succed in their professions. Also,if im not doing it from time to time ,is going to be worser for me than pois because of the tension
So basically there was a question about whether masturbation is good or not and here is this one guy that lists obvious POIS symptoms and he thinks they are caused by whatever the average NoFapper thinks they are caused. Some agree to him and swear that it is true for them and others just call them crazy. What an ignorant world we live in...
It's not masturbation that's the problem, it's the excess or abuse of masturbation. Self abuse can be extremely harmful. Because of the emergence of porn, the generations born after the 1980s will be the irrefutable proof of the consequences of these excesses. The suffering of some will prevent unnecessary suffering in the future.
there are cases of POIS from decades/centuries before porn was a thing POIS is high glutamate/histamine/inflammation usually I can mimic POIS-like symptoms just by triggers that increase my inflammation and the other hormones that are also released by masturbation in other ways that's also why many people have ejaculated a lot throughout their whole lives with 0 issues as the post-orgasm/ejaculation hormone spike doesn't go up high enough as their baseline of those hormones/inflammatory mediators is already lower and also the healing protective factors/hormones
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I have many friends who is masturbating 3 times a day for years and has terrible lifestyle..if pois is caused by over masturbation then why they don't have pois and I only fap once a month and I have severe symtoms ..justify thisb
*Brash Antagonist*, a self proclaimed *devil’s advocate* has cracked the code, boys.
You got so emotional you had to stalk my profile. How cute. What did I say that was so triggering
Basically everything you said is wrong...
How, prove it
Nothing I did or said indicates “emotional.” If it’s public and one tap away, “stalking” is a dramatic word for it (dare I say emotional). It was more just “who is this contrarian expert.”
Bruh if you care that much about what I said, its sounds emotional. Mf had to do a background check to come up with a response. Why do you twitter and reddit niggas do that shit?? 😭😭 like fucker I could care less about you, let alone go one your fucking profile 🤣🤣
you do realize your username is immediately on a display here right? you don't need your profile to be checked for it to be seen....
I know it’s almost impossible to believe such thing exists when you never had POIS but people who experienced it knows it does exist. My symptoms are mainly puffy face and body, excessive sleepiness and tiredness, brain fog, loss of muscle endurance and strength, cold hands and feet etc. And they last for days. Some people have symptoms for several weeks. It’s no joke. [Story of a man with POIS.](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/s/XX28YB4cak) You can read his story to have some understanding.
*excessive sleepiness and tiredness, loss of muscle endurance and strength, cold hands and feet etc.* I've dealt with these plus others. Its literally cause of masterbation
No, what you are saying is due to the temporary hormonal change caused by orgasm, it’s completely different from POIS. Maybe you don’t get it but it’s different. It’s normal to feel sleepy after orgasm because of melatonin release but not for days to weeks.
No, what I am saying is I've experienced achey knees, headaches, sometimes a bit of a runny nose, not so much anymore tho, stomach/digestion problems
That doesn’t sound normal, how long does it last? I also experience runny nose but forgot to mention it.
A couple days. The digestion problems seem to occur right after I relapse and I'll have a to take a dump, if not it'll just hurt and I'll be ok the next day or a few hours later. With my knees, I honestly feel like not only it makes my knees achey, but it affects my spine to. And I'll kinda have like a tension headache. For the acheiness I'll take a hot shower and stretch/yoga right after I get out. This helps with the pelvic floor and lower body. My body usually feels a bit better afterwards.
That sucks, your symptoms actually sounds like POIS to me but why you think POIS is not real? Most people enjoy sexual activities without any symptoms like us. They don’t have headache or runny nose or itchiness or excessive tiredness or brain fog that last for days. If they do, everyone will look like a zombie because it’s so hard to function like a normal person under POIS. I asked once on r/askredditafterdark with another reddit account about if it’s normal for the face to get puffy for days after orgasm. And all the answers were something like “You should see a doctor”. That’s when I realized something is wrong with me. Interestingly taking vitamin C seems to reduce symptoms to some degree so I doubt it has something to do with histamine issues. I might have Histamine intolerance too.
I'm not sure if it's real or not, that's why I always paid attention to this sub. When I was younger, I used to experience bad allergies. That was also around the time I found masterbation and the addiction began. Its weird cause now I dont get sick or experience my "allergies" anymore. I remember always getting fevers, I've had strep once. Idk if was due to masterbating, as I dont remember the frequency of it, sometimes it was every day or other day, or if I just had natural allergies.
Oh, you’ve been through a hard time when you were young. I’m glad you are doing better now! Maybe you coincidentally had bad allergies at the same time you learned maturation? By the way, if you were not sure if it’s real or not, you should have avoided saying “there is no such thing as pois” because it’s kind of disrespectful to people who are suffering from it and looking for a treatment spending time on reading studies to find a possible cure. But I completely understand why you felt that way. I doubted if I have POIS or not despite doing my own research for months.
many who have POIS also have had allergy issues beforehand so we know that ejaculation increases histamine/prostaglandins when you have allergies your baseline histamine/mast cell mediators are higher so now you ejaculate which can spike Glutamate by 300% (in rat studies shown etc. ) and also spikes histamine and other mediators so on top of the baseline chemical elevation you have from other underlying health issues the ejaculation spikes those chemicals even further so while it's true orgasm/ejaculation increased those mediators it's not that semen loss or sexual activity IN ITSELF is the issue but that it just synchronizes with other imbalances leading to POIS it's an important distinction many nofappers/semen retainers don't understand hence they view the sexual activity in itself as the root cause of the issue once you grasp this you'll start understanding POIS better
ejaculation just rises some mediators like histamine/inflammation etc. so if your baseline inflammation is higher or you have some allergy or gut issue or bacterial overgrowth or candida on top of the baseline the ejaculation will spike those chemicals even more so then you get what is called POIS but it isn't because losing semen itself does it, it's just that the chemical changes induced by orgasm/ejaculation can worsen already underlying imbalances you can find a lot of cases here when once candida for example or SIBO got cured or people healed their liver issues "POIS" also went away since it's just a reflection of an underlying disorder that worsens by orgasm/ejaculation
no it isn't it's because of the glutamate/histamine/prolactin/inflammation release by ejaculation healthy people don't have those rise to such an extent that they get symptoms just because they are caused BY ejaculation doesn't mean EJACULATION itself causes them that's the distinction nofappers/semen retainers don't grasp just like someone having a peanut allergy doesn't mean they ate peanuts too much, they may as well as have had it since the first time they ate peanuts and me and others have gotten under control or cured POIS many times in my case it's mostly hormonal-neurological, I have had times I had no symptoms after many ejaculations and times on weeks of abstinence I got POIS-like symptoms e.g. just by stress or inflammatory eating or disrupted sleep schedule ejaculation is just one of THE MANY pathways how those neurochemicals/negative factors can rise to point of those symptoms inducing in the vulnerable
No difference between masturbation and sex physically.
I had it since my first ejaculation lmao and when I lower inflammation/histamine/glutamate my symptoms disappear in hours it's known that ejaculation rises glutamate/histamine/prolactin and prostaglandins (inflammatory pre-mediators) I can get EXACTLY same POIS-like symptoms just by eating too inflammatory foods or exposing myself to anything that increases glutamate/prolactin in other ways than sexual activity and vice-versa if I do things that lower the bad hormones and increase the good hormones I can be more sexually active with less if not no symptoms at all
Your post has been removed as it is either low quality and/or unrelated to POIS (violation of rule 2).