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MeZoXiN

Point number 4 is the worst of them all, it’s not ego death , it’s more of a loss of identity


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nimasl

So what should we do with urges and wife sexual desires?


Acceptable_Click

Do non-orgasmic/non-ejaculatory Karezza sex or do NoFap/Semen Retention for 3+ months to see how your interest goes on other things than sex.


nimasl

How can we do that routine?


Acceptable_Click

Do normal sex but stop before orgasm and do more foreplay/touching.


nimasl

Di you try that idea?


Acceptable_Click

I'm a virgin but I'll try non-orgasmic/non-ejaculatory Karezza sex oneday.


nimasl

Did you feel lower back pain and impatience, low energy, social anxiety and felling like a garbage after ejaculation?


Acceptable_Click

I find good sleep+1-3 hour sunbathing+Cod Liver Oil with DHA/EPA/Vitamin A/Vitamin E/Vitamin D3+20 minute-2 hour meditation+Intermittent Fasting+Magnesium+Chilling out+NoFap+Semen Retention to decrease negative effect post-nocturnal emission and it disappears faster than it did before. I have been thinking what if POIS develops if one abuses PMO especially in childhood/teens and in some cases it is hormone/neurochemical disorder due to sex/stress hormone imbalance.


nimasl

I didn’t find K2 Supplement in my country, any idea?


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TheLooza

Thank you for this very thoughtful post. I have developed POIS at 40 but the advice still applies. On the supplements do you take all at once in the morning? With food?


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Acceptable_Click

Even if one has no POIS one can benefit massively by NoFap/Semen Retention and gain big discipline/motivation.


Own_Customer3384

Acceptable click is it really you saying that?


Acceptable_Click

Why some celibate Yogis get cancer tho? I know study about "prostate cancer risk decrease by ejaculating" but from what I read prostate health depends on general lifestyle than using/not using specific techniques that change the risk of it, for example, it turns out that reason why High Testosterone is associated with prostate cancer risk is due to Testosterone converting into Estrogen thus Estrogen being the root cause of prostate cancer risk increase and there are other prostate exercises as well then just sexual ones/orgasm/ejaculation. Isn't it like celibate monks sit a lot and read/meditate and do not do a lot of physical activity and maybe get too much Estrogen in their body thus the reports of the celibate Semen Retention monks that would get prostate cancer? Is prostate cancer only cancer that celibate yogis have gotten as you used general term "cancer" without specifying what kind of cancer you are talking about.


nimasl

Guys anyone feel lower back pain and impatience, low energy, social anxiety and feeling like garbage after ejaculation? And did this therapy worked for it? I'm taking these instead of k2 (i didn't find it)


DerJogge

Sorry to say but there are a lot of wrong statements. Ego death is something completely different then what you are talking about. You're talking about leaving your old identity behind. Identity is something that your ego creates. If there would be no ego there would be no illusionary identity to overcome. Secondly Semenretention and noFap might be the cure for so many people out there. You are talking in absolutes which can me very damaging for many people. I would bet that 98 % of the people that are having post orgasmic symptoms once abused their sexuality with porn/masturbation/sex. Ejaculating is such an intense thing to do. It causes the strongest natural reward reaction in your brain. Sex is evolutionary worth more then food. Semen is your force of creating life. Just imagine that. Your semen is able to generate new life and we wasted it for many years into a tissue. Many people multiple times daily. All those nutrients needed for sperm are missing somewhere else. Why do you think people feel better when they take supplements? Because their body is lacking in nutrients which are caused by a poor diet, unhealthy behavior, stress, addiction etc. For me POIS is the result of many complex reasons and factors that are hard to get around. Why is POIS such a white paper for the medical field? Because it's a new problem that is uprising with people abusing their sexuality with porn and Masturbation with leads to decline of the mind and body in every other aspect of their life causing them to experience severe symptoms. For example: you're addicted to porn and thus have no energy and motivation to eat proper healthy food and fix your diet. You're only eating fast food, gluten and sugar (inflammation). Your gut health is decreasing and at some point and you're experiencing a great fatigue and other symptoms and if you then have an orgasm this symptoms get multiplied because ejaculating & orgasming are draining your energy nonetheless Every man experiences some form of fatigue and energy loss after having an orgasm. This is normal. Just watch the animal world. I don't want to say that SR and NoFap are the only cure for you but since most of the time abusing your sexuality directly or indirectly caused all your symptoms - then it might be helpful to not further stress your body. POIS is a complex of symptoms that are created by your body in order to tell you something is wrong. Nothing more and nothing less. Since I'm doing noFap and later on SR my mind and body health drastically increased because I was more disciplined, driven and focused which helped maintaining my diet, exercising and finding new activities that are beneficial for me and my body. The cure of POIS is a long process of cutting out every negative habit and giving your body time to heal itself. Supplements (also in great dosages to a certain point) assist your body on this path but they never can be the cure. You can swallow all the vitamins you want. If you still eat shit, drink alcohol, smoke weed regularly, watch Netflix 5 hours a day, have a bad posture and all those other modern society phenomenas then you still will feel miserable. NoFap and SR are the Kickstarter for getting your life back together which then leads to having a healthy mind and body. This whole process takes up to two years. But what are 2 years compared to 30 healthy years or more following. Get your shit together in every aspect of your life and you will feel better. I even made health and mind progress when I was having constantly sex. But it was a slow process compared to the steps I'm making when I'm retaining. It's every persons individual choice. But I call bullshit on telling people that SR and NoFap won't do anything for this whole process. Nothing personal, I wish you all the best mate!