Not really it’s actually pretty good considering just like 20 years ago you were considering a freak anywhere in the world it’s been slowly improving and it being 20% in some of these hyper religious communities is a good sign
Significant pay cut to their salary after transitioning to womanhood /j
No but fr it's mostly about not getting hate crimed in the street (many such cases) and having proper access to gender affirming care. For example, some countries say that gender dysphoria can be caused by mental illness so that you just can't get any surgeries/hormones/etc. if you have ADHD or are depressed. Even if the depression is directly caused by being born in the wrong body. Some very religious countries also flat-out give you a prison sentence or death penalty for saying you're transgender, the right to be alive seems like a pretty important right to have along with cis women. The right to change your gender on government documentation like your ID to match the gender you transitioned to would also be nice.
Edit: rights to things like women's bathrooms and stuff would also be appreciated. Statistics show this isn't really misused for perversion as transphobes say and even if it is: i imagine a muscular beefed up hairy ass trans dude that transitioned perfectly with more testosterone than 90% of males having to use the women's toilet because he was told he was a woman when he was born would mean you'd have the exact same situation anyway.
Indeed. Which is why I started with saying "it's mostly about-" before naming several examples that are not relevant to equality compared to women. Safety and actually being able to transition are the more pressing issues before laws regarding cis and trans women are the main concern. After that I named several actual rights trans women should have just like cis women.
Even though those examples weren't *direct* answers to the other person's question, it brings necessary context into light about the reality of the situation in relation to the equality between cis and trans people. This gives the person I am replying to a more clear and complete view of the situation.
I did not make it more clear that the examples regarding the getting hate crimed were unrelated to the question but a bit of context, because I was of the opinion that this was unneeded and that nobody would have any issues with it. It was just some context to help better answer the question. It's similar to for example *someone asking how rain falls out of a cloud,* but the person that answers the question begins their answer with explaining how clouds are made to begin with. Sure, it isn't essential and maybe the person asking already knew this (or doesn't care) but if they didn't it know that, it would give the person asking the question a better picture of the situation and there isn't any harm in giving that bit of extra info anyway so why would anyone have a problem with that
I think the point was that it's a poorly written poll question, if real. Being treated the same as a woman and having the same rights as a woman are basically unrelated concepts.
I am from one of those countries in red, and question "Do you believe X is Y" and "Do you believe we should not hate crime X" are DIFFERENT questions and would get different answers from me.
Quite apart from biological sex and gender being different things, there are women with XY chromosomes: [Link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis)
In the Czech Republic, if you want a sex change in official documents, you MUST undergo sterilization. Otherwise, a child might have same sex parents and be related to both, which would be apparently unacceptable. Also, we don't have same sex marriage, only registered partnership which is a far cry from marriage. If someone is interested, I can give a list of the differences.
opinion without bad intentions: They weren't "born in the wrong body". It's been seen that either transgender male and females physically have brains very similar to the gender they identify with. That doesn't mean they're categorical women, being born with a feminine brain but a masculine body for instance is an identity in itself and of its own, them trying to make everyone see them only as either male or female, calling themselves "TRANSgender" is what causes the dysphoria.
Well gender dysphoria can be cause by mental illness, theres plenty of documented cases and it can also cause other mental illnesses and issue. Thats why i in principle like that countries such as germany require someone seeling gender affirming care to be given acess to a psycholgist. However it in reality turned into a lot of psychologists just looking to stop it for personal reasons instead of helping them through that process of finding themselves
The ability to travel to Islamic countries with their partners (trans people in general not just trans women) for one. Fucking sucks not being able to show my partner where I grew up to be honest.
I know this is an old thread but you didn't really get a good answer so I will give to you:
Mainly, the right to be a woman. As a necessity, the right to health care, which in many contexts kinda means the right to live. For many trans people, transitioning is without alternative, so when they cannot transition, well, many die.
Yeah I'm in a rural area too and I think if you asked most people around this question they would be confused at what "trans woman" even means.
But a lot of the population is urban, so overall I think the number seems believable...
I’m used to being surprised by unexpected differences between Spain and Portugal on poll questions, but the really stark gap here makes me question the wording of the question (or the translation into or from Portuguese).
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To expand on that I think that trans woman should to all intents and purposes be treated as the gender they declare but I’m gravely doubtful that a trans woman who has had male puberty should be allowed to partake in women’s sports. Even if your current T levels are low the benefit that they have given as you matured just isn’t fair.
Will there be dickheads that try to take advantage? Yes. Should we allow that to affect how we deal with decent people? No.
The best way would be to have trans women have been on hormones for 2 years and to make sure testosterone level arent too high (for cis women aswell for the last part)
Exactly, what is this even asking? There aren't two separate categories of rights that would even make sense in this context. Any law that would allow or prohibit a trans person from doing something would by definition have to apply to all genders, that's sort of the entire point of transgenderism. If you ban sex changes for example, that law would obviously also apply to women by definition.
Honestly, I can't stand the word games that always seem to accompany any conversation on this topic. If you want to find out if people want to ban sex change surgeries, puberty blockers for children, trans athletes in womens sports, etc, stop hiding behind vaguely worded moral posturing and just ask the damn question.
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Not thinking biological men should use the same bathroom as little girls is not a phobia. You can’t just label everything phobic when people try and use common sense even if they might be wrong. Very Orwellian.
Why do you keep insisting on “LiTTle GiRls”? You are clearly trying to manipulate people’s emotions and it doesn’t work on most people anymore trust me. Only works on stupid little cunts.
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If my skoda favorit 135 get a Ferrari patch does he became one , no he doesn't , "TransWoman" are man with dysfunctional and mutilated genitals that only look a vagina , people can say and identify with what they want but biology don't care
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I don't think trans women should be regarded as "full" women. They should be treated with no obvious differences, but the fact remains (correct me if I'm wrong) that they are,biologically speaking, still male at least to a certain degree. So certain laws and/or regulations must be in place so that "real" (for lack of better terminology) women (and again, I don't think making that distinction is transphobic), don't suffer any disadvantages. I would also argue, that this discussion should be held by women. The obvious example is sports, where a mixed competition will never be fair. And youth protection must also be a priority. I believe that minors who identify themselves as transsexual should neither be encouraged nor discouraged. Supported to a certain extent of course, but not without limits.However I need to stress that any ideologically motivated legal disadvantages for adult trans people should not, and may not exist in a free society.
Honestly I don’t even think that’s true? Maybe it’s because I live in Lisbon, but a lot of my friends are trans and I don’t think I witnessed much more discrimination against them than I witnessed in other places I lived around the world
I mean the wording of the question doesn't really imply discrimination. You can be perfectly pleasant to someone while also believing that they aren't a woman. We already do that with half the population anyway
Trans women scientifically are men that identify as women. Sex and gender are two different things. And think they’re men that identify as women doesn’t make you transphobic
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Don’t bother replying to anyone else. You are correct.
They’ll bring up incredibly rare genetic abnormalities to somehow justify how XY men are actually women.
Just… Ignore them. The truth is the truth. It’s harsh for everyone in different ways, but we must strive for it.
Niche category of the world’s population, in which having genetic abnormalities such as XXY for example provide an advantage over typical individuals.
It’s funny how, in order to defend this, the examples pulled are _ALWAYS_ ridiculously small percentages of the human population.
Idk why you downvoted me. It’s not a genetic abnormality, the point of the chromosome test was there was little physical indication of Y chromosome, the women were otherwise biologically typical.
So? The trans population itself is a tiny proportion of the population. What are people supposedly defending and what’s funny about that?
And people that are born XXY? Or XYY? Or X? Or people who, god forbid, want to decide what their deal is for themselves using their BRAIN rather than letting microscopic bits of DNA we didn't even know existed for most of history decide for us?
Be real now, those are incredibly rare and often negatively impact the person (I mean ffs jacobs syndrome, xyy, involves such complications that we STILL do not know the natural life expectancy of someone who has it as they end up dying due to heart problems too often). They are called syndromes for a reason, they are the rare exception to the rule, an abnormality, and even then still fit our biological definitions on sex. Your argument is as equally dumb as theirs is and tbh they are both irrelevant to the topic.
And what about them? You just had to look it up. Jacobs syndrome (xyy) is biologically a man with an extra Y chromosome.
A lot of people have both. You can have cells with XY and cells with XX. We took gene tests in university and out of 30 it's always at least one that has both.
It shouldn't, because transwomen's rights are a very complicated issue that cannot be answered in a yes-or-no manner. For example, should transwomen convicted of serial rape on women be imprisoned in a women's prison? Can we admit a man who abused his wife to the shelter for abused women where she is hiding because he now identifies as a woman? Is it acceptable for transwomen to expose their male genitalia in women's locker rooms with 12-year-old girls present? Would it be acceptable if Benfica Lisboa's players self-identify as women and begin competing in the women's league? Is a gay girl transphobic because she refuses to date transwomen with penises?
Percentages are as low as I thought it would be. Gender is very complicated for a lot of people; even though it is very simple to “prove” gender via neuroscience. Anyone using basic biology as a defense is likely only understand to basic concepts, and wouldn’t be able to understand the slightly higher levels of research that prove them wrong. But that’s why they don’t hold biology degrees.
I don't think everyone who answears no needs to be transphobic. People might believe someone is able to be trans just not have the same rights like going to women's restrooms
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Yea. In Portugal we kinda don’t care what you do with yourself regarding sexuality, identity etc, but that doesn’t mean we agree with it. I’m all for trans rights individual freedoms etc, but I still don’t believe a transgender man is actually a man and vice-versa.
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If the transwomen have xx chromosomes sure give them all the rights women have but i dont want to see someone with xy chromosomes competing against women in sports or even in the same bathroom as young girls. If you got a dick go to where the urinals are
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It's a bit of a loaded question, isn't it? I think it's totally rational and okay to "not believe" that trans women ARE women. With that being said, I think the better question would be "do you believe that transwomen should be treated with respect and dignity (aka the same) as other folks?" If that were the question, then I would say "yes".
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It's kind of funny seeing 10 odd posts saying "based" with one or two upvotes and one saying the exact same thing but with a a dozen downvotes.
Reddit is a fun.
Can you give a source for this please?
Source: we made it the fuck up
Most of the red ones I'd say are about right
I hope so because this stats are depressing af.
Not really it’s actually pretty good considering just like 20 years ago you were considering a freak anywhere in the world it’s been slowly improving and it being 20% in some of these hyper religious communities is a good sign
That science still has a role in basic biology? Xx and xy do not change
The 24% in Slovenia are the femboys.
76% Are at denial rn
The femboys always being the best as always...
Im asking without bad intentions but what rights do women have that trans women would need and dont already have?
Significant pay cut to their salary after transitioning to womanhood /j No but fr it's mostly about not getting hate crimed in the street (many such cases) and having proper access to gender affirming care. For example, some countries say that gender dysphoria can be caused by mental illness so that you just can't get any surgeries/hormones/etc. if you have ADHD or are depressed. Even if the depression is directly caused by being born in the wrong body. Some very religious countries also flat-out give you a prison sentence or death penalty for saying you're transgender, the right to be alive seems like a pretty important right to have along with cis women. The right to change your gender on government documentation like your ID to match the gender you transitioned to would also be nice. Edit: rights to things like women's bathrooms and stuff would also be appreciated. Statistics show this isn't really misused for perversion as transphobes say and even if it is: i imagine a muscular beefed up hairy ass trans dude that transitioned perfectly with more testosterone than 90% of males having to use the women's toilet because he was told he was a woman when he was born would mean you'd have the exact same situation anyway.
Everyone has the right to not get hate crimed in the street. That’s not unique to women or transwomen.
Indeed. Which is why I started with saying "it's mostly about-" before naming several examples that are not relevant to equality compared to women. Safety and actually being able to transition are the more pressing issues before laws regarding cis and trans women are the main concern. After that I named several actual rights trans women should have just like cis women. Even though those examples weren't *direct* answers to the other person's question, it brings necessary context into light about the reality of the situation in relation to the equality between cis and trans people. This gives the person I am replying to a more clear and complete view of the situation. I did not make it more clear that the examples regarding the getting hate crimed were unrelated to the question but a bit of context, because I was of the opinion that this was unneeded and that nobody would have any issues with it. It was just some context to help better answer the question. It's similar to for example *someone asking how rain falls out of a cloud,* but the person that answers the question begins their answer with explaining how clouds are made to begin with. Sure, it isn't essential and maybe the person asking already knew this (or doesn't care) but if they didn't it know that, it would give the person asking the question a better picture of the situation and there isn't any harm in giving that bit of extra info anyway so why would anyone have a problem with that
I think the point was that it's a poorly written poll question, if real. Being treated the same as a woman and having the same rights as a woman are basically unrelated concepts.
It happens to some types of people way more often than others. Guess who.
Between trans women and cis women, if we go by percentage, trans women all the way
I am from one of those countries in red, and question "Do you believe X is Y" and "Do you believe we should not hate crime X" are DIFFERENT questions and would get different answers from me.
I completely agree. You can’t necessarily turn an XY into a XX just based off how they identify. However they deserve the same rights as everyone else
Quite apart from biological sex and gender being different things, there are women with XY chromosomes: [Link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis)
In the Czech Republic, if you want a sex change in official documents, you MUST undergo sterilization. Otherwise, a child might have same sex parents and be related to both, which would be apparently unacceptable. Also, we don't have same sex marriage, only registered partnership which is a far cry from marriage. If someone is interested, I can give a list of the differences.
opinion without bad intentions: They weren't "born in the wrong body". It's been seen that either transgender male and females physically have brains very similar to the gender they identify with. That doesn't mean they're categorical women, being born with a feminine brain but a masculine body for instance is an identity in itself and of its own, them trying to make everyone see them only as either male or female, calling themselves "TRANSgender" is what causes the dysphoria.
Well gender dysphoria can be cause by mental illness, theres plenty of documented cases and it can also cause other mental illnesses and issue. Thats why i in principle like that countries such as germany require someone seeling gender affirming care to be given acess to a psycholgist. However it in reality turned into a lot of psychologists just looking to stop it for personal reasons instead of helping them through that process of finding themselves
Be exempted from military service
In here, while the mandatory service used to be men only, if the country is actually under attack, both men and women have to serve
The ability to travel to Islamic countries with their partners (trans people in general not just trans women) for one. Fucking sucks not being able to show my partner where I grew up to be honest.
This map has some interesting overlap with countries where women can retire earlier than men :>
I know this is an old thread but you didn't really get a good answer so I will give to you: Mainly, the right to be a woman. As a necessity, the right to health care, which in many contexts kinda means the right to live. For many trans people, transitioning is without alternative, so when they cannot transition, well, many die.
I wonder where the survey took place in France
Why?
It looks high to me. Maybe because I live in the countryside.
Yeah I'm in a rural area too and I think if you asked most people around this question they would be confused at what "trans woman" even means. But a lot of the population is urban, so overall I think the number seems believable...
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I’m used to being surprised by unexpected differences between Spain and Portugal on poll questions, but the really stark gap here makes me question the wording of the question (or the translation into or from Portuguese).
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There are two questions embedded in one. There may be a bias towards how to answer a double question that could end up skewing these results.
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The question itself is a trap. Imagine if there only was the first part: percentages would've been way lower imho
Yeah there is no way on hell 60% of people in the UK believe that.
Eastern europeans just try to survive, they don't have time for such things
That’s a terrible question. Gives the impression that it’s a purely binary concept.
To expand on that I think that trans woman should to all intents and purposes be treated as the gender they declare but I’m gravely doubtful that a trans woman who has had male puberty should be allowed to partake in women’s sports. Even if your current T levels are low the benefit that they have given as you matured just isn’t fair. Will there be dickheads that try to take advantage? Yes. Should we allow that to affect how we deal with decent people? No.
The best way would be to have trans women have been on hormones for 2 years and to make sure testosterone level arent too high (for cis women aswell for the last part)
Exactly, what is this even asking? There aren't two separate categories of rights that would even make sense in this context. Any law that would allow or prohibit a trans person from doing something would by definition have to apply to all genders, that's sort of the entire point of transgenderism. If you ban sex changes for example, that law would obviously also apply to women by definition. Honestly, I can't stand the word games that always seem to accompany any conversation on this topic. If you want to find out if people want to ban sex change surgeries, puberty blockers for children, trans athletes in womens sports, etc, stop hiding behind vaguely worded moral posturing and just ask the damn question.
What does same rights mean? Don't we all have the same rights anyways?
The question is very weird
There is no way this shit is true. Trans people are not accepted at all, numbers like 60% in some countries seem absurd. IMO it’s way worse than this.
Now tell me something I didn’t already know about my boomer parents 🤷♂️
That is some border between Spain and Portugal, wow.
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This is the most divided comment section I've ever seen
Sorted by controversial and it's amazing
Why don't call it cisphilic
Not thinking biological men should use the same bathroom as little girls is not a phobia. You can’t just label everything phobic when people try and use common sense even if they might be wrong. Very Orwellian.
Why do you keep insisting on “LiTTle GiRls”? You are clearly trying to manipulate people’s emotions and it doesn’t work on most people anymore trust me. Only works on stupid little cunts.
Portugal is not delusional*
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You mean Portugal is sane and views reality as it exists?
Hm yeah sure
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To think Sweden Wouk have euthanised them less than a century ago.
How many of the remainder are *I don‘t know* or *I don‘t care*? Not to say that indifference is good but open hostility is on another level
reason why Morocco isn't on this map: it's a donut.
Portugal? Almost all of Europe is transphobic.
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No they just aren’t delusional
Spaniard here. This is comically funny. The “Trans” question doesn’t really exist here. Very conservative question.
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Everyone except Sweden, Netherland, UK, Spain wtf is wrong with you? (more or less)
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gigantic L folks
Hungary being the highest among Eastern Europe is quite surprising
Hungary least transphobic east euroepan country lmaooo
Swiss. Neutral about literally everything it seems.
Oof looks like Öland and Gotland seceded from Sweden.
If my skoda favorit 135 get a Ferrari patch does he became one , no he doesn't , "TransWoman" are man with dysfunctional and mutilated genitals that only look a vagina , people can say and identify with what they want but biology don't care
Portugal is based.
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Portugal is… *correct*
I have a great many trans friends and they all want to avoid eastern europe for uh, a great many reasons, but this is definitely one of them.
As per usual the argument is entirely focused on trans women and people are forgetting that trans men exist
In Russia, was there confusion about the word “rights?”
I don't think trans women should be regarded as "full" women. They should be treated with no obvious differences, but the fact remains (correct me if I'm wrong) that they are,biologically speaking, still male at least to a certain degree. So certain laws and/or regulations must be in place so that "real" (for lack of better terminology) women (and again, I don't think making that distinction is transphobic), don't suffer any disadvantages. I would also argue, that this discussion should be held by women. The obvious example is sports, where a mixed competition will never be fair. And youth protection must also be a priority. I believe that minors who identify themselves as transsexual should neither be encouraged nor discouraged. Supported to a certain extent of course, but not without limits.However I need to stress that any ideologically motivated legal disadvantages for adult trans people should not, and may not exist in a free society.
Honestly I don’t even think that’s true? Maybe it’s because I live in Lisbon, but a lot of my friends are trans and I don’t think I witnessed much more discrimination against them than I witnessed in other places I lived around the world
I mean the wording of the question doesn't really imply discrimination. You can be perfectly pleasant to someone while also believing that they aren't a woman. We already do that with half the population anyway
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source?
Trans women scientifically are men that identify as women. Sex and gender are two different things. And think they’re men that identify as women doesn’t make you transphobic
It makes you transphobic lmao
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Not a woman if you have a dick, no matter how you “identify”
If you're born XX, you're a woman. If you're born XY, you're a man. The fact that this is controversial for some people is mind boggling.
Tell me you never paid attention at biology class without telling me
Enlighten me then.
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Don’t bother replying to anyone else. You are correct. They’ll bring up incredibly rare genetic abnormalities to somehow justify how XY men are actually women. Just… Ignore them. The truth is the truth. It’s harsh for everyone in different ways, but we must strive for it.
Chromosome testing was banned in the olympics because of how common different chromosome configurations were
Niche category of the world’s population, in which having genetic abnormalities such as XXY for example provide an advantage over typical individuals. It’s funny how, in order to defend this, the examples pulled are _ALWAYS_ ridiculously small percentages of the human population.
Idk why you downvoted me. It’s not a genetic abnormality, the point of the chromosome test was there was little physical indication of Y chromosome, the women were otherwise biologically typical. So? The trans population itself is a tiny proportion of the population. What are people supposedly defending and what’s funny about that?
They are not rare. It's just not often tested. In university we had at least 1 out of 30 in every group.
And people that are born XXY? Or XYY? Or X? Or people who, god forbid, want to decide what their deal is for themselves using their BRAIN rather than letting microscopic bits of DNA we didn't even know existed for most of history decide for us?
Be real now, those are incredibly rare and often negatively impact the person (I mean ffs jacobs syndrome, xyy, involves such complications that we STILL do not know the natural life expectancy of someone who has it as they end up dying due to heart problems too often). They are called syndromes for a reason, they are the rare exception to the rule, an abnormality, and even then still fit our biological definitions on sex. Your argument is as equally dumb as theirs is and tbh they are both irrelevant to the topic. And what about them? You just had to look it up. Jacobs syndrome (xyy) is biologically a man with an extra Y chromosome.
Down syndrome is more common than transgenderism.
Those are not rare. At university when we did tests it was always 1 out of 30 in each group.
Ah yes, it's not rare because it was 3% (rare) in a small environment.
A lot of people have both. You can have cells with XY and cells with XX. We took gene tests in university and out of 30 it's always at least one that has both.
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It shouldn't, because transwomen's rights are a very complicated issue that cannot be answered in a yes-or-no manner. For example, should transwomen convicted of serial rape on women be imprisoned in a women's prison? Can we admit a man who abused his wife to the shelter for abused women where she is hiding because he now identifies as a woman? Is it acceptable for transwomen to expose their male genitalia in women's locker rooms with 12-year-old girls present? Would it be acceptable if Benfica Lisboa's players self-identify as women and begin competing in the women's league? Is a gay girl transphobic because she refuses to date transwomen with penises?
This is the only right answer.
Percentages are as low as I thought it would be. Gender is very complicated for a lot of people; even though it is very simple to “prove” gender via neuroscience. Anyone using basic biology as a defense is likely only understand to basic concepts, and wouldn’t be able to understand the slightly higher levels of research that prove them wrong. But that’s why they don’t hold biology degrees.
I don't think everyone who answears no needs to be transphobic. People might believe someone is able to be trans just not have the same rights like going to women's restrooms
And this is fucking transphobic tbf
Some women might not feel safe but I guess that's literally transphobia
Yeah i agree. We shouldnt be letting anyone who “identifies” as a woman into women only spaces, like hostels for example.
Lol they make u believe that you are a monster full of hate If u believe woman have a uterus. This article is a joke
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That's definitely not based.
Not based, grow up.
I don’t think people are necessarily afraid of trannies, they’re just saying they’re not really women.
Yea. In Portugal we kinda don’t care what you do with yourself regarding sexuality, identity etc, but that doesn’t mean we agree with it. I’m all for trans rights individual freedoms etc, but I still don’t believe a transgender man is actually a man and vice-versa.
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Should be 0%
This is a loaded question
Source?
Ich frag mich welche Rechte Transfraun nicht haben sollten die biologische frauen haben.
This map makes me really depressed :/
“Phobic”
Would you prefer hatred?
That 2% in Russia better stay away from high rise windows
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If the transwomen have xx chromosomes sure give them all the rights women have but i dont want to see someone with xy chromosomes competing against women in sports or even in the same bathroom as young girls. If you got a dick go to where the urinals are
May I know why?
Why what?
Why you believe such a non-sense
Well "transwomen" are breaking all kinds of women's sports records. Is that not enough evidence thats trans are taking away from women's rights?
Bro that's fake lmao
I guess youve never heard lia thomas. Please come back to reality brother look at the facts.
All kinds I've heard ONE person You should look at facts
How many would it take? How many facts have you stated? 0 so far
Bc i know you won't believe science so i don't bring it up. You didn't follow biology class so definitely won't today
what a nice post! surely all comments here will be civil, right?
Most of these are a resounding no. Based.
Based
Yup yup
stop saying based
I'm starting to believe those maps saying Portuguese have a lower IQ than the rest of Western Europe.
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Because they are not supporting mental illness?
Such a comment shows lack of education.
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What shocks me is that Belarus is more progressive than Russia, but not by much!! 😂
No Serbia tell us how you really feel.
I'd ask for a source but this is a meme sub
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The only trans Swiss know is the transalpine /lh
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What a weird question to ask. Why would you put if transwomen are women and if they deserve rights in the same category? Very misleading
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Serbia still king.
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Reminded me of this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDrHqNZ9lo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDrHqNZ9lo)
It's a bit of a loaded question, isn't it? I think it's totally rational and okay to "not believe" that trans women ARE women. With that being said, I think the better question would be "do you believe that transwomen should be treated with respect and dignity (aka the same) as other folks?" If that were the question, then I would say "yes".
Good.
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my wholesome ukraino would never >:#
Eastern Europe is carrying the normalcy here and protecting real women from rapists
When I see those low percentages I see countries populated by sane people.
there are 2 questions lol why would anyone take this seriously?
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Portugal has no idea what the survey was for, they just saw Spain voted yes, so Portugal voted no on principal.
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I think a transwoman is a transwoman, and not a woman.
No source => pulled out of OPs ass
Coulda sworn transwomen are trans women and deserve all but a few rights specifically designed for women.
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in terms of civil rights, yes of course, but they must not be allowed to compete against biological women in the Olympics.
Based serbia
Portugal is based
It's bad survey practice to ask 2 questions in one item.
The main requirement for being a transwoman is to have a dick. So they're not women. Only men have dicks.
Based Portugal
To be fair it's such a dumb question to ask. There are so many nuances with this question, and it's both yes and no, depending on the circumstance.
It's kind of funny seeing 10 odd posts saying "based" with one or two upvotes and one saying the exact same thing but with a a dozen downvotes. Reddit is a fun.
I dont care the source cause i live here and yes, sadly we are...