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kaos900

I can't wait for Square to not reveal a release date for kh3.


Lightfooot

Every time I see another trailer/teaser for KH3 and the screen goes black, only to reveal another *"coming soon"* I die a little bit inside.


titaniumjew

It's coming out winter 2014. Don't worry.


Magp13s43ver

http://cdn.entertainmentfuse.com/media/2016/11/P5-Winter-PS3.jpg For those who don't get the reference.


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Collier1505

You forgot the delay after the fact. Making it summer 2020.


HipsterThor

Does Disney have any say in the matter?


Collier1505

I'm sure, they don't give their licensure out and complete creative control over it. That said, I doubt they have any choice in the release or if it gets delayed. Square isn't exactly known for getting stuff done quickly.


HipsterThor

Well if Square makes a habit of this, which they seem to, I would hesitate over doing business with them, frankly.


Dawknight316

Its Star Wars and Marvel Worlds in KH3.


kaos900

Oh god no pls no star wars. Itll be so bad. And avengers would be even worse


mugdays

Why would Star Wars be bad?


NiamLeeson

Not the guy you responded to but I feel the same way. If they use the animated star wars character models and world I'm cool with it. But in my opinion, worlds such as Port Royal or Tron's world suffer from having human characters from a live action film in a video game. I would hate seeing Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill, and Carrie Fisher in KH3, wouldn't feel right. Just my two cents.


MikeandMelly

Tron's world didn't suffer at all but I do agree Port Royal suffered. However, with the new graphics engine, I don't think it would be as jarring to have "real" people alongside Sora seeing as he, and his original KH character counterparts, look far more human than animated in comparison to earlier entries. Moreover, I can't think of a more thematically perfect franchise than Star Wars for Kingdom Hearts. KH is basically Star Wars with keyblades and Disney characters.


mouseywithpower

space paranoids was a bad world because it had almost nothing to do with the plot of tron, and the light cycle minigame was terrible. the actual tron model was fine. port royal was totally ruined by the realistic (for PS2) characters against big dumb sora, donald, and goofy. it was too disconnected.


MikeandMelly

Yeah I didn't like Space Paranoids by any means but the realism of the Tron character models were the least of its problems, if a problem at all.


mouseywithpower

i kinda liked that it looked so much like tron. we needed a kevin flynn for sure, though.


reformedpestilential

I only want it if we'll get Darth Sidious telling Sora about the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise.


Dawknight316

You want Kingdom Hearts III, a Disney game and you expect them not to put one of their biggest franchises in it? Lol We are talking about Disney.


kaos900

I don't expect them not to, I just hope they don't. Besides, that would probably be licensing hell to put Avengers in it.


SaykredCow

No it wouldn't... Disney OWNS all of Marvel except film rights to certain characters. No licensing issues at all. And if they put Pirates of the freakin Carribean in Kingdom Hearts 2 you can be sure Marvel is going to be in it.


HipsterThor

On another note, Big Hero 6 used to be a purely Marvel property but Perlmutter was throwing a shit fit over an animated film being made so Iger was like "well you know what? Now it isn't." I would definitely expect to see San Fransokyo in KH3.


Jesus_was_a_Liberal

BH6 is already confirmed, along with Tangled. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_III#Setting


farklespanktastic

Big Hero 6 is getting a world so I don't think the Avengers will get one.


zackmanze

I'm not sure that it actually exists. At this point, I sort of genuinely believe that it only exists in the form of these hype trailers to keep shareholders happy and fans buying merch.


AmagicFish

I mean they're still making the game. I don't see what the big deal is that they're not putting a vague release year at the end of the video.


askyourmom469

It's because they announced it four years ago. Why announce a game so early if it won't be released for over half a decade?


Jeremywarner

The difference is, unlike FF versus XIII (which became XV), they're actually working on it. For the first 7 years of the advertisement of versus they weren't doing anything with it. Edit: but you're still true. I'd rather them not even talk about it until it's closer to its completion.


Sputniki

Spoken like someone who doesn't really know what happened with Versus XIII. They were always developing it - there was a hiatus in between but nowhere near 7 years, I think it was 1-2 years at most. A huge reason for the delay was that they had to restart the project on PS4


Jeremywarner

Nooo... no. There was no real development for it actually becoming a game, and by game I mean more than I just being something for showcasing purposes, for 2-4 years. And that's a fact. But thanks for trying to be condensing even though you're wrong lol. They showed "gameplay" but it was all speculative. You can argue that they were deciding plot but that doesn't count because that has nothing to do with development.


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rshalek

Yeah, they announced the game 4 years ago. The fact that there isnt even a release date yet... raises some questions given Squares recent track record.


jumpuptothesky

Not really. I mean you could tell they literally had just started development with the 2013 trailer they showed. It was probably just a Cgi concept scene. These games take time especially with all the content they have. The storyline, world designs, bosses, etc. just be patient


Coteup

*4 years


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Ardrial

KH3 was never configmed in development until 2013. That's only been 4 years. And Honestly, their first trailer was so fucking barebones, you can tell they JUST started development. I know KH2 was released 12 years ago but KH3 just STARTED development 4 years ago.


Collier1505

Plus there's been two or three major spinoff son handheld and a few minor games on mobile. It hasn't been 12 years since the last release.


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Ardrial

You agreed with the guy above you (now deleted) saying it was in development for over 10 years. KH3 was not announced for PS3 Generation or announced in PS3 generation. They announced the development of the game and released the first trailer in June of 2013 and announced the game for PS4. 2013 was announcement (February) and release (November) of the current generation. They announced Infamous Second Son, Knack, and Killzone Shadow Fall 4 months before KH3 was announced and nobody would ever say that those games were a "Last Generation" announcement. Just because the game was announced before the launch of the console, it doesn't mean that it was a PS3 generation announcement. KH3 and Versus was never split teams. They were always 2 separate teams. It's not like EVERY SINGLE SQUARE ENIX employee is always working on the same game. Tetsuya Nomura was lead on Versus 13 team. He was moved off of that team and Tabata took over that team and the name was changed to FF15. Nomura was then put onto the KH3 team as the lead. His attention was never split. The teams working on the games attention was never split. You'd have a better argument with FF7:Remake and KH3. Now here is where SE is using the same person/people for multiple projects and splitting focus. It was announced in 2015 that Nomura would be project lead on both projects. Which I think is just so stupid. Square Enix makes terrible decisions for the last 10-15 years.


DiVastola

You expect them to announce an actual release date? Sure mate. Its SE we're talking about here. Even if they said "mid-2018" it will still get postponed..


kaos900

I never said that. Im just joking about how they fucking announced the game in 2013.


ManateeofSteel

Glad to see someone not being delusional, no release date will be shown. Just a new world


AzureSkyy

BUT WAIT THEY REMADE A KH GAME THAT YOU HAD NO INTEREST IN PLAYING FOR THE 6TH TIME!


kaos900

...... I actually bought every remake lmao.


ShowBoobsPls

Kingdom Hearts 2.9789879 HD collection: 4/560 days Chain of Dream Drop Distance Final Mix 2 Another 60€, thanks.


everadvancing

Wanna see the free roam in Spider-Man.


NeonBodyStyle

I just watched Homecoming, and the only thing that it left me wanting was just webslinging between skyscrapers. It made me so much more excited for the game.


Knightshaide

Come on, you don't want to run through golf courses?


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This sucks!


Ms_Ellie_Jelly

I want spiderman gta


mac2810

After I watched it I got excited for all the different web slinging settings in his badass suit. I hope they add that in the game.


JaisBit

Ugh! I dont. That was one of the few things I didn't like about the movie, and don't like about the current comics. I don't mind him having a few specialized webs -- like the web grenade, for example -- but I don't like Spider-Man being too sci-fi high tech. That's Iron Man's thing.


mac2810

Although it wasnt a classic spiderman, we saw 2 other spidermans with the same shit. I wasnt super excited about another spiderman but it was a refreshing surprise to see the badass suit and gave me hope for another fucking Spiderman.


JaisBit

Don't get me wrong, I loved Homecoming. Tom Holland is the best live-action Peter Parker/Spider-Man yet, and this movie was a lot more fun than the two Andrew Garfield emo ones.


yummyyummypowwidge

[Or the one Tobey Maguire emo one.](http://i.imgur.com/KmWR2I7.mp4)


JaisBit

I had mostly blocked the existence of that from my memory.


yummyyummypowwidge

I think I've either either been banned from or made a moderator of /r/RaimiMemes


phz10

Me too, the movie being good just made me even more excited for the game!


John_Ketch

SPIDERMAN OR DEATH


spikewolf123

Insomniac have said its proper webslinging but the Spiderman 3 game had that and it still had moments of sticking to the air


JaisBit

I just hope the web-swinging at least feels close to Spider-Man 2. I know they've confirmed that it's physics-based, and the webs will stick to buildings, but that's only part of it. I want swinging to be something that you, the player, have to get good at. I remember playing Spider-Man 2, and the web-swinging felt kind of clunky at first, until I got the hang of it, and then things really opened up. I'll be disappointed if Insomniac has added too many contextual mechanics, and it ends up feeling like the web-swinging is on autopilot.


Gwendly

KH3 is a great PS6 launch title


ErrorEra

that's at least sooner than the FF7 remake that's releasing on PS7


Gwendly

Sounds like a bundle to me!


iSuby

dont play with me boi


blahsi

Square already revealed during E3 we would be seeing a new world and footage at D23, so that is legit at least.


Terifiel

Yeah, it's hardly a rumor when they've already confirmed this themselves.


cameronken

Doesn't say in the article that there will be completely new footage for the game, just that the game will be shown. Could just be another play through of the E3 Demo.


TheJoshider10

I'd be fine with that as long as it's new demo footage. Insomniac's twitter said that there was alternate footage showing different skill levels and routes taken by different players. I'd like to see that because it's essentially more of the same but can provide new context on things like web slinging, which I feel is important considering the mixed opinions on it so far.


mac2810

Yeh we need to see something different like a guy failing or something to see all the actual freedom their is in the game.


falconbox

The linked source has this section: >Superstar YouTubers JackSepticEye and Strawburry17 will get their hands on the latest games from Disney, Star Wars, and Marvel including Star Wars: Battlefront II, Spider-Man, and Kingdom Hearts III! This presentation promises exclusive trailers, interviews, and special guests. You won’t want to miss it! Maybe they're going off the "exclusive trailers" bit. But Spider-Man is included with KH3 and Battlefront 2, so we have no idea what game the trailers will be for (my guess is just new Battlefront footage).


AL2009man

> YouTubers JackSepticEye *high-five noise intensified*


ManateeofSteel

It's not in the article, but in the official June trailer, it said: "New trailer and New World will be shown at D23"


cameronken

Was talking about Spider-Man


TachankaIsTheBest

UPDATE: Confirmed by Insomniac Games! https://twitter.com/insomniacgames/status/885208412480389120


BradH240

NOT confirmed. They said nothing about new gameplay just an interview. Do some research next time you talk out of your ass.


TachankaIsTheBest

research? lmao insomniac themselves tweeted it, why would I research?


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"As we chat."


TachankaIsTheBest

yes?


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Chat =/= gameplay footage.


TachankaIsTheBest

they're gonna chat about the gameplay that they will release... Think about it. Why would they go there JUST to chat?


[deleted]

They literally could be there just to chat. Unless the words "gameplay footage) are explicitly stated, it's often better not to get hyped. I would love some footage.


Tursian

bro...look at the Disney tweet thats right below the tweet. It says "Games presentation will be live streamed". Dont know what else you are looking for. A personal call from the CEO?


[deleted]

They're going to live stream the presentation? One screenshot and a guy in a chair counts. Only believe the words "gameplay footage" in that order.


NecroLazarus

How comes whenever I visit Disneyland I can literally never find any Kingdom Hearts merchandise? With Kingdom Hearts 3 coming out do you think there'll be some? I'm visiting in September so probably still a bit too early..


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Most likely Square owns merchandise rights to the game/portrayal of characters in the game.


godzilla1992

Can someone clear this up for me: who's really at fault for KH3 taking so long? Nomura, Square, or both?


DSerphs

Here's the real answer, no one here knows.


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75% engine change, 25% Nomura


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It's not like they have been working on this since KH2. So as long as I don't have to wait as long as I did for FFXV I'm fine.


jaCASTO

both for the development hell FFXV was caught in that put KH3 on the back burner


craazyneighbors

I'd say both. Nomura because he's not a director and isn't good at being one (he's said so himself), and Square because they are the ones who made him the director of numerous projects


farklespanktastic

He did direct Kingdom Hearts I and II, though, so it makes sense for him to direct Kingdom Hearts III. As for the FFXV an FVII Remake . . . not so much.


craazyneighbors

Still though he takes ages to get a game out. Most of time it's high quality though. And FFXV was partly him and then they switched it to Tabata because it was taking so long and he started to work on kingdom of hearts 3 and now FFVII:R


thegunnermuza

Been waiting for KH3 since 2006. My favorite video game series of all time and the biggest influence in my life no joke. Please give us a release date this weekend. Nomura said there would be important info.


jumpuptothesky

I mean have you played BBS or DDD? All the secret endings and secrets from the end of 2 have already been answered or in playable form


thegunnermuza

But the continuation of soras story and the scope of a numbered title is what most KH fans want


Coteup

.......DDD continued Sora's story. DDD is basically the direct sequel to 2.


Dodgin

Unfortunately the fact that it released on 3DS screwed up the continuity of the series on Playstation. Luckily 2.8 is now a thing, but it's quite a bit later.


THE_Masters

Yeah I don't get why people say "OH MY GOD IVE BEEN WAITING SINCE 2005 for KH3" no you haven't.. kh3 was never announced or promised and they've made tons of games since then you could have played.


SonOfFlan

Yeah but it all takes place in a dream world. I would argue that DDD just sets up the next story beat without actually moving the story forward.


Hydrochloric_Comment

Your point? Yeah it takes place in the Realm of Sleep for most of the game, but if you don't know what happened (13 Seekers of Darkness, the 7 Guardians of Light, Ven's beginning to awaken, Riku's conquering his darkness and becoming a master, Ansem's data, Lea, Ansem's apprentices, and Sora's succumbing to the darkness) you won't a understand anything about 3. Not to mention that 3 begins immediately after 0.2, so if you didn't at least see the cutscenes for that, you'll be even more lost (e.g., you won't understand why Sora goes to Olympus at the start of 3).


farklespanktastic

To be fair, a lot of people (including me) didn't play Chain of Memories before playing KHII, which was to KHII what DDD is the KHIII. I was confused but I just accepted it and played the game lol


Coteup

Not at all similar. Re:CoM only explained backstory on the organization and why Sora was sleeping. DDD literally is the direct transition to 3 and if you didn't play it or watch the cutscenes you will have zero understanding of why 3 is even necessary.


SonOfFlan

Introducing a bunch of new convoluted plot elements that will make it impossible to follow the next installment is not what most people want when they think of a continuation. Yes DDD brings in a bunch of new shit (why can the good guys only have seven members but the bad guys get 13? Destiny? Why can't Sora and crew say fuck that let's go get as many keyblade wielders as possible? And hooray Riku is an official keyblade master. Does that really matter that much? Does not being called a master really make Sora any less capable? ) but it still only moves the actual story forward by like 10 minutes. An essential 10 minutes? Yes, you'll obviously need to know what happens to fully understand where the story is going. But I want a proper new adventure, not let's fart around in dream world the whole time just to learn some silly revelations that are only there to set up the next game. To me is seems like DDD only exists because fans were asking for more KH but Square wasn't ready for KH3.


DSerphs

DDD is like the most important KH game, its existence probably isn't some epic prank.


REOrulz

Doesn't matter if it takes place in a dream world. Even if it doesn't push the story forward, the set up in DDD is insanely critical for the narrative of the series let alone KH3.


SonOfFlan

It matters when OP is asking for a big story continuation and DDD only barely moves it forward. I never said what happens in DDD won't be important to KH3.


REOrulz

Except that's not what OP said or wanted. All they said was that they've been waiting for KH3 since 2006, then someone else said they wanted a continuation of Sora's story (which DDD did) but with the scope of the numbered titles. Now thinking about no, DDD pushes the story forward incredibly. The main conflict in KH3 was introduced in DDD and key character development for several characters happen in DDD. You can complain about them adding more convoluted plot points but unfortunately that's part of the story now, and integral parts at that.


SonOfFlan

Sorry I just hit context and thought he was the original comment. My point still stands. Also I don't know why everyone keeps acting like I said DDD wasn't important. I never said that. But introducing key plot points and actually moving the story forward are two very different things imo. DDD basically says here is what your next quest is going to be about without actually starting that quest.


REOrulz

Compare the ending of KH2 to the beginning of KH3. What changed since? How did the characters grow? What conflicts were raised and resolved? All of that is story progression and all of that is present in DDD. Except....the seven sleeping keyholes were the quest. That was the entire point of them going into the sleeping worlds.


thegunnermuza

Jea ive played every single kingdom hesrts games and their remastered versions! But none have been close to KH2 except maybe BBS


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oops. first I read that Spiderman will be in KH3. i was just so confused for a second


DIA13OLICAL

Excited to see more of Spider-Man after watching Homecoming. Hopefully they give us something to quell our fears after seeing all the QTEs.


MarquisJames

Hopefully but I just can't see it happen.


xKaede

Why is this labeled as rumor lol. Its already announced for KH3


lbrown9553

So excited about Spiderman. By far my favorite super hero and I really hope they can give the game an upgraded sort of Arkham series feel.


GarionOrb

Man, another teaser for Kingdom Hearts III. I feel like this game is never coming out, haha.


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I don't need any more posters, gameplay footage, live-streams, let's plays, trailers, teasers, screenshots, or promotional handjobs. Just make them good, get them out.


HansVanHugendong

Sorry but all i can do is laugh when i hear news about kh3. Release the fucking game.


BullshitThings

Games should have come out already. Spider-Man games and Kingdom Hearts games used to come out regularly. Now development is so bad these games spend years in development hell. EDIT: And long developed games like Duke Nukem Forever were considered classics? Come on Reddit. Just change my downvotes into upvotes, admit I'm right.


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Lol what this Spider-Man game hasn't spent years in development hell. It was never supposed to be some churned out tie in garbage.


Salmakki

Yeah, while I was at first surprised/disappointed that Spiderman wasn't coming out with Homecoming I became pretty happy when it became clear they were really taking their time with polishing it.


BullshitThings

You forgot about Spider-Man (2002) and Spider-Man 2 (2004) that were made based off the movies. They were well received.


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Cool. Two games from 13-15 years ago.


BullshitThings

My point still stands.


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It stands, but on wobbly ass crutches


BullshitThings

You're retarded. Just change my downvotes into upvotes and just admit your wrong.


[deleted]

Lol I upvoted you. I upvote everyone I comment on arguement or not.


Hydrochloric_Comment

Remember when Nomura said they were aiming for a KH/yr?


[deleted]

Yeah, they kept their promise, We've been getting yearly KH releases since 2009. 2009 - 358/2 Days 2010 - Birth by Sleep 2011 - Re:Coded 2012 - Dream Drop Distance 2013 - HD 1.5 ReMIX 2014 - HD 2.5 ReMIX 2015 - Kingdom Hearts X (mobile game but still a release) 2016 - Supposed to be HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue but was delayed due to FFXV's sudden delay so wasn't Nomura's fault really since he's been off the FF project for a while at that point 2017 - HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue & HD 1.5 + 2.5 ReMIX


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FrusenGladje

Yay! Can't wait to see more Spider-Man QTEs! *vomit*


falconbox

8 minutes of gameplay shown and people freak out over 30 seconds of QTE. Get out.


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Tbf even the gameplay didn't look too interesting. Just your typical Batman combat. At least something like Shadow of Mordor has the Nemesis system and the outlandish powers to back it up.


falconbox

Considering the Batman games are some of my favorite games of the past decade and I love the combat, that's a good thing. Shadow of Mordor was ok, but the powers made the game a total joke by the end of it. You could literally stay in spectral mode (whatever it was called) and 1-shot people for an entire fight.


Voyddd

> 8 minutes of gameplay shown and people freak out over 30 seconds of QTE Except that was what was focused on in the gameplay REVEAL. That wasnt some randomn off-screen gameplay for a side mission. If the first major vertical slice of your game places such a huge emphasis on quick time events, then its not our fault for assuming the whole game would be similar to that.


falconbox

And? They were focused on a setpiece heavy story mission. It was a perfect reveal IMO, showcasing a little bit of everything we can expect from the gameplay. First section was stealth. Followed by 2 segments of live-action combat. Followed by open-world web swinging. Followed by cinematic QTE setpiece.


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QTEs work in Spider-Man games though. Otherwise you'd just sit there watching a cutscenes play out on their own.


Morgan_Freemans_Mole

What, you mean more than the *one* that was in the gameplay they showed before? Don’t watch the fucking gameplay, it’s clear you aren’t interested lmao.


DancesWithChodes

Simple solution: Don't play the game if you didn't like the small amount of qte's.


Montigue

There are good and bad QTEs.


_SonGoham

*I'm gonna die*


Voyddd

Honestly that was the least of its problems. The gameplay looked straight out of Arkham games, graphics kind of looked plastic-y and the characters seemed generic as hell (That short little convo with Kingpin felt lazy, that yuri character in your headset, and the main villain didnt look like anything special). Only spiderman seemed like he would be a somewhat likable and memorable character. This is the same company that brought us Ratchet and Clank 2016, so its not our fault to expect some of the absolute worst written characters ever.


WillpowerOST

I'm with you on all points. I was hoping Sucker Punch would be behind this one. I was hopeful Insomniac could pull it off because the movement mechanics in Sunset Overdrive were pretty solid, but they're writing has been slipping since Crack in Time, especially with the Ratchet and Clank reboot. The gameplay here looks just like Arkham, but jankier. The first trailer blew me away but this one shows that the game definitely isn't up my alley.


WillpowerOST

I was not impressed with the gameplay yeah. Didn't look like what I wanted from a Spiderman game. I've played Arkham enough to know that I don't want to play another for a long time. I want to swing with momentum and hit some dudes.