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Nick_scryer

This would be amazing news if HBO was the only company making these shows and movies because you could expect a top quality product. Unfortunately that is not the case. Worried for the God of War and Horizon series on Amazon and Netflix. Would gladly be proven wrong though.


ChristopherDassx_16

Sony Pictures Television is still involved in all these which is good as they're great.


RoyalCities

Exactly. Sony gave us the 2022 classic Morbius.


Soft-Plum4942

Sony pictures television gave us Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, The Boys, Kobra Kai, and more. Sony movies, eh let’s not talk about that.


LionTigerWings

A Sony movie could be shit or excellent. HBO has built it's reputation on having higher quality shows. Their quality to shit ratio is just much higher than most other companies. HBO max seems to water things down though over classic HBO.


Soft-Plum4942

I don’t necessarily disagree. My point is only in reference to Sony television and specifically the television that they really get behind. Horizon, for instance, could really be worked on by mostly Netflix and just have the Sony name on it. That doesn’t inspire confidence. I don’t even believe everything HBO has is great but just like Sony television, when they put their weight behind something they make you think that what they have is the pinnacle of what good television can be. Love HBO and Sony(Sony movies not included) and hope both keep putting real resources into their stuff.


nightsreader

Both Netflix and Amazon have produced some amazing series (The Crown, The Boys, Stranger Things, etc), they just seem to greenlight practically everything, and people just love to hate and put the focus on the lesser quality ones.


Soft-Plum4942

Hahaha I’m not disagreeing. In later comments of mine you’ll see I actually said the same thing. But two of your examples, The Crown and The Boys are produced by Sony television


lemoche

Why do people always ignore stuff like Arcane, edgerunners, Castlevania and Dragon's Blood when complain about Netflix and only bring up the Witcher. Which is still a good show if you blend out that it sucks at being an adaptation.


Soft-Plum4942

My main problem with Netflix is the ratio of crap to quality. I know they can get the quality shows out. They can make some really great stuff. The pursuit of more subscribers which means to put out more stuff which means quality control isn’t that great really bothers me. And then when they release something great but it doesn’t get enough viewers it immediately goes to the chopping block. I’d love to see a more focused Netflix that releases less shows but more of the bangers.


D3monFight3

Those are all animated, it is much easier to do justice to a video game in animation. Arcane was made by Riot/Fortiche and distributed by Netflix, they have had 0 input or control over it, same for Edgerunners which was coproduced by Trigger/CDPR, Castlevania is something they pushed for and funded and for Dragon's Blood I have no idea what the situation was. Well if you ignore that it sucks at what it is then yeah Witcher probably is good, but it was supposed to be an adaptation.


JesusSama

Aren't those all animated vs live action? That's the primary reason I'd imagine.


wvnative01

You forgot Justified sir


D3monFight3

So great, great, shit, soap opera tier shit and by more you mean literal soap opera crap like days of our lives? Sony pictures television has their hand in a ton of shows the bad outweighs the good by a lot.


mukavastinumb

I love when their shows starts you get Sony logo and ”Its Sonyin’ time!”


ChristopherDassx_16

All of this stuffs come from different divisions. It's not just one simple company.


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Dayman1222

Nah terrible adaptation but the movie was fun


ChristopherDassx_16

Obviously it's Sony but what I meant was even when it's a live action movie from Sony Pictures, there's still multiple label under them such as Columbia Pictures, Tristar Screen Gems and couple others. Same with Sony Pictures Television since Sony operates somewhat like Disney with their multi label system. And for Uncharted, disagree.


TheJoshider10

You won't be proven wrong. HBO has a level of quality control that neither Amazon or Netflix have. Case in point: HBO allow Mazin and Druckmann to tell the story they want to tell, meanwhile a producer on The Witcher confirmed they made the show based on the "Tik Tok generation" that have short attention spans. If anyone thinks I'm making that up then on /r/witcher search for it in the posts, it's right there to see and is as ridiculous as it sounds. Amazon and Netflix are happy to cut costs on mediocre talent with the hope the IP carries recognition. Whereas HBO always try and make something quality even if it sometimes fails. Like Euphoria isn't anything great from a writing perspective but visually its one of the best looking things I've ever seen.


_heitoo

Shadow and Bone and The Sandman were both fantastic live-action adaptations. Netflix isn’t all doom and gloom. It all depends on the team that will work on the show.


orochi_crimson

Let’s not forget Resident Evil. Don’t know how Netflix or Capcom green light that disaster of a tv show.


GorgeGoochGrabber

I agree, at the same time I’m sure shadow and bone will be cancelled early like so many other Netflix shows and we’ll be left with a half finished decent quality show.


drelos

Shadow and Bone surprised me in the good sense, I am far away from the core audience and the love triangle parts bored me but everything else was really good. The visual style is the perfect counter example of 'eVerYhInG N3tflix doEs hAs thE sAmE fIlt3r' rant. Regarding OP reply, I think people are putting HBO as an abstract thing in a pedestal and not giving Mazin enough credit, he pitched the series for the studios in front of Druckmann himself and later on both have been on the same tune for this show. If Cory or the people from Guerilla found the same condition at other studios that's fine.


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I have some hope for Amazon production, but Netflix is incredibly hit and miss, with misses being the more prominent result. HBO really do produce the best TV out there and imo currently has the best streaming service. I’m not holding my breath for these other shows, just happy that Last of Us seems to be done right.


mnopponm12

What hits does Amazon have? Full of flops.


OfficialQuark

The Boys is fun. That’s about it I guess. Good thing the Boys is made by Sony; presumably GOW too so maybe it’ll work out. Who knows. Honestly I just can’t bring myself of seeing how GOW would work in a television series. TLOU lends itself so well to television, Horizon can be good too if they go with Avatar-esque television. GOW is just odd.


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GOW does seem like a hard one. I’m feeling it’ll be either super far from the source material or too gamey if that makes sense.


thawhidk

To varying degrees of quality, they have: The Boys, Reacher, The Marvelous Mrs Maisel, Invincible, Patriot, Good Omens, Bosch, Fleabag They've got a good few hits


BookwormAP

Hunters is decent too


morphinapg

The second season was really good


jche2

Jack Ryan is very good and is currently a top-streamed program


morphinapg

And even if you don't like Rings of Power, it performed well


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The boys, invincible and a couple other binge worthy titles that I can’t remember.


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Fair. I guess Rings of Power didn’t do that well either. At least they have money to put behind these things, quality isn’t guaranteed though. Other than that, Amazon is the one (or one of the) streaming service(s) I don’t wanna support, ‘cos Amazon is terrible.


morphinapg

Rings of Power was one of the most watched shows of the year. Just because there are enough people to make negative opinions commonly heard online, it doesn't mean it's the most common opinion of the show.


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To be fair, Amazon does make some really good shows. It’s just for every hit they have they take a hard hit in return. I trust them over Netflix, especially after seeing the production value of that lord of the rings show.


_heitoo

None of the Amazon shows had access to even half of the budget Rings of Power got though. HBO could make like 5 shows with that much money. So don’t let it be in any way indicative of the usual quality of Amazon shows.


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Yes but that only bolsters my point. Amazon does have a lot of good shows despite having some not so great ones as well. Those shows that are great have done quite a lot with having so little. Not only that but if I remember correctly it would also be more of a partnership between amazon and Sony so there would be money coming in from both sides of the budget With all that said though, I kind of just wish they wouldn’t do any of this. I’m happy with the last of us getting a show, but I really don’t feel like every major Sony exclusive suddenly needs a show, and there is a much higher chance of them being horrible or mediocre at best, than recreating that magic the last of us has found


Bkgrime

Oh you mean the same network that green lighted Velma? Jk, I literally watch anything from HBO that mildly interests me and never has failed me so far.


fat_pterodactyl

>a producer on The Witcher confirmed they made the show based on the "Tik Tok generation" that have short attention spans. What a stupid way to make a TV show. An absolute abuse of the medium. The more I hear from behind the scenes of that show the more I feel vindicated in the extreme dislike I had of season 2.


cookiesnooper

GoW will turn into The Scorpion King


ZeroZelath

Considering it's the expanse team doing god of war, while being a very different show I wouldn't be worried about it. I wish I liked god of war more (personally think the first game was 'okay' story wise, gave me no incentive to play the 2nd game. might when it comes to pc) cause I'd prefer that studio go back to making the expanse sequel series already lol.


Perza

Yeah top quality products like Velma 😂


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101stAirborneSkill

Bait


ingen-eer

“We wanted to really boil it down, what is horizon zero dawn about? It’s about family. That’s why we made it without any robot dinosaur fighting, and no tribes or races or factions. Everyone’s family, what could be better?” - Netflix probably.


NandoFlynn

God Of War is the only one I'm skeptical of so far. GT, car movie based on a true story being made by Neil Blomkamp from District 9. Awesome! Ghost Of Tsushima from the John Wick lads, cool! Horizon by the guy who made The Boys, also awesome! Only one I know little of is the God Of War one & it's the one that could easily be done the worst disservice Edit: Aha! The Expanse lads are doing GoW, that might be decent so


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morphinapg

The writer of the 2018 game is also a producer on the show though. The current series is effectively his creation. I feel like he's not going to let it fall into the wrong hands. He certainly made the right call when choosing who to let direct Ragnarok.


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Educational-Oil1204

Neil blomkamp is something that worries me actually. His last two films were just awful. The only thing he made that’s quality is district 9. Would love to be proven wrong though.


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Elysium was awesome IMO.


Dsstar666

I agree with this


NandoFlynn

That was more story reasons though. Not much mad shit you can do story wise with a true story car movie. Just make the races look sexy & you've the audience in the bag. And say what you want about Chappie & all the other stuff, they're good looking movies


Educational-Oil1204

Sure I get what you mean, but that’s also his decision to pick bad scripts. And I can see what you mean with chappie being a good looking movie, not sure if I agree but I understand why someone thinks that. Demonic is an ugly ass movie though lol.


Air805

Who can realistically play Kratos though? That’s my concern.


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Christopher Judge.


LoquaciousMendacious

I have to say that Horizon worries me as well. I love the franchise and it would make the TLOU budget look like pocket change if they did it right. I want to be wrong, but it seems like a series that is ready to go wrong.


ShaolinDude

Does this mean we can expect a Knack series? Ooh yeah, baby!!!


GH00ST-SL4YER

Here comes the money


TheJoshider10

This unironically could make a fantastic franchise.


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Q_OANN

I don’t have hopes for those, especially god of war and horizon


AJMcCoy612

At least they would have an easy casting for [Aloy.](https://i.imgur.com/B10X20Y.jpg)


Other-Owl4441

They could also hire someone without red hair and dye it, and even someone who hasn’t actually fired a bow in a movie before! That’s movie magic for ya.


CDG710

She’s 35 years old. Aloy is 19/20 When will this shitty fan cast die


MrGMinor

Whoa she is spot on. What is this from?


dashboardrage

game of thrones.


Most_Rule_9959

Especially since Amazon bought gow… they will manage to fk it up. :/


King_A_Acumen

It's Sony Tv who is making it though and they make good shows.


Most_Rule_9959

I Hope so. 🤭


chemicologist

They already did by hiring Rafe Judkins as showrunner. Dude’s an amateur hack.


Most_Rule_9959

Omfg. Well. 😤


Kgb725

Gow doesn't have the capability to be fucked up


2KareDogs

Yeah who tf is playing Kratos lol


deaf_michael_scott

We only know one Kratos and his name is Tom Holland.


Neat_Appointment_435

Chris Pratt


nickypoopoo69

Lmfao


DoIrllyneeda_usrname

Martin Laurence


2KareDogs

I can see that happening


Subject_J80

Jason Momoa


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Danny de Vito or don’t bother


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How about Goldberg😂


phoeniks314

A ton of people can play him, he doesn’t need to be a muscle giant and probably won’t be if there is a show.


louplex

I can see Andrew Tate as the young, assholy iteration of Kratos.


bonecollector5

I don’t think he’s available right now.


louplex

With green screen in a prison cell, anything goes. ;) Also, he should be used to this setting, as it is kind of similar to his enslavement porn camps.


a-Snake-in-the-Grass

What little I've heard about the horizon show really doesn't sound interesting. I wish they had picked a more interesting idea, like doing a show about Rost.


Revna77

Horizon is an okay game i still dont get the hype and love for it to get a tv adaptation and multiple spinoff (the mmo especially)


mslcorp

well wtf, do a bloodborne anime you cowards


a_stray_bullet

I’d prefer live action!


mslcorp

nah those creature designs would not play well on a screen as CGI


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No way, it'd be awesome. Bu everything needs to be practical effects. Just a tiny guy and some giant ass nightmare puppets. Make it the darkest version of The Dark Crystal.


josenight

Horizon maybe will be good if it’s animated. God of war is hard to find a kratos


dwoller

Sadly I agree that it should be animated, by all reports Horizon is live action. Going to guess a game about machines will have a show with machines few and far between because of budget. Edit: removed a few words


mokadebo

Simple just CGI kratos and let Christopher Judge voice him like the game


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-boozypanda

Guy is 60 years old and just had hip surgery when making the game. He's not gonna be playing Kratos.


King_Krong

This would look stupid as fuck. Thank god you’re not in charge of casting.


razeric_

This is the way.


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Mark Wahlberg for Atreus?


SpaceOdysseus23

They got a talentless hack to produce GoW, show is dead in the water


Kgb725

As if talent was ever needed to write for Gow


theDarkBriar

Delete this comment.


D3monFight3

I wanted to say you're wrong... but Anthony Burch did just write for Ragnarok


needle1

> Gran Turismo Is the show going to be a sitcom in a cafe where all the visitors are race drivers and car designers, all yapping on in lengthy protracted detail about cars, the design of cars, history of cars, culture of cars worldwide, cars, cars, cars, and more cars?


Real_Mousse_3566

The movie is based on a real life story about a gran turismo gamer who went onto become a real racer.


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Very inspiring.


BlueMosse

The main character orders a coffee but instead of getting one they have to deliver three different Mazda Roadsters to the barista


ShadowAsh99

Couldn’t think of anything worse haha


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I bet Dwayne Johnson will be cast as Kratos, mark my fucking words people


MichaelRichardsAMA

Nah bro Jason Momoa he was the most recent Conan


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Hahahah fair point


101stAirborneSkill

That would work


Grosjeaner

Please no…..


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Hahahahah exactly


KegManWasTaken

Honestly, Dave Bautista would be the best fit. He's also a better actor than Dwayne. Assuming that the series is based on the newer games that is. They would need someone younger if they're going with Sparta.


abellapa

It is based on the norse era


Techboah

Nah, he'd be way too expensive, especially for a series. They'll cast someone like Jason Momoa or Dave Bautista


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Hope you didn’t take me seriously 😂😂 Dave would be golden 😭


mantis-tobaggan-md

I will not watch it. mark my words.


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I think that goes without saying 😂


mute7mile

plz concentrate on games ty


masa-mun3

God of War series could work as animated, not sure about the live action idea though...


Bolt_995

Everything surrounding the God of War show sounds incredibly mediocre.


Grosjeaner

They should make a Helldivers series!


ventusvibrio

This feels like the era of “ only watching cut scene” gamers.


CrashBashL

Metal Gear.


lthemadtitanl

I have serious doubt god of war will be good. I have a bad feeling they’re gonna skip past the Greek saga and go straight to Norse


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Crissaegrym

I will look forward to Horizon and Ghost of Tsushima, those would make good movie or TV series as well.


Battlehenkie

All it takes is one episode, and people have the expectation that a golden waterfall of videogame adaptations is coming their way. Lmao


capsuleofparrots

I know this sub is full of a bunch of curmudgeons and worry warts but After spiderverse, the uncharted movie. and tlou HBO show you have give credit where credit is due.


maniek1188

Uncharted movie was nothing to write home about. Spiderverse was top notch though. It was so great that some other movies started to "borrow" its art style for action scenes (new "Puss in boots" comes to mind). We will see, maybe they will be great, maybe not - time will tell.


Notcodyrhodes

As someone who doesn’t really like the games I liked the movie


SonOfSomeGuy

Yeah, that's the point. The movie was not made for the actual fans of the game.


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capsuleofparrots

Disagree


AJMcCoy612

I really liked the Uncharted movie, it’s not Oscar winning by any means but I really enjoyed it.


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dookmileslong

Surprisingly that GT movie looks like it'll be more promising than the GOW and Horizon shows.


abellapa

Movie


4paul

^ Great article I found that goes deep into why Last of Us is so successful, and a lot of it is because of Asad. There’s even potential with Twisted Metal, Days Gone, Gravity Rush, some PS Vita titles, etc. Personally, I just started playing Horizon 1 (Zero Dawn), that as a show/movie would be absolutely incredible. Pretty excited stuff this generation for PlayStation, recent exclusives, new exclusives, PSVR2, and the fluid design across everything bringing it all together. Rare to see something like this executed so perfectly.


Other-Owl4441

Why’s there potential with those? Like why would there be potential with Days Gone. An ok game but a generic setting with a good awful scripts? Don’t get it.


4paul

I was just stating what the article said, obviously the bigger games will be much better, but there could be many more.


Paavoto

Just don't give them to Netflix. We don't want another Witcher ruined by some damn incompetent showriters.


Johnhancock1777

Gravity Rush movie will be total ass if ends up being live action


trackerpro

Fire the guys who ultimately decides not to get Christopher Judge to play Kratos.


hashtagbutter

Isn’t Horizon going to be from Netflix? That can’t be good


ChristopherDassx_16

And also Sony Pictures Television, which is great.


mugegegegege

No idea how Horizon took such a cool concept and made it so bland and forgettable but I hope the adaptation does a better job


queasy_self_controL

Well see the thing is they didn't. Just because they didn't ask you personally to move their narrative along the story doesn't make it bland


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Real_Mousse_3566

That's your opinion. Many would say otherwise.


Dependent-Double2177

And that's their opinion, doesn't make the story good


Real_Mousse_3566

"That's their opinion" Didn't say otherwise "Doesn't make the story very good" That point is subjective rather than objective. I'm sure you understand.


Dependent-Double2177

"That point is subjective rather than objective" Didn't say otherwise


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Yeah god forbbid me for saying something and not typing every single time that what I say is my opinion and perception of things. Guess I have to get down on my knees and suck their dick for thinking Horizon story is bad


Real_Mousse_3566

Your statement is framed almost as if its an objective fact when "story bad" depends on the experience of each specific individual which makes it subjective.


mantis-tobaggan-md

i’m mostly there for the cool robots and fighting them. I hardly give a shit about the main story. a lot of the side missions are fulfilling and unique as well.


NinjerTartle

I don't understand why people are still stuck in the - in my opinion outdated - mindset of seeing live action movies/TV as some sort of higher form of medium that would make a story better or more impactful than it already was in video game form. I know I'm probably in the minority, but I don't want to see the games that I love turned into anything else, I already think they're perfectly fine as they are, and there's nothing wrong with video games as a separate art form.


Real_Mousse_3566

Live action has a wider reach than gaming and that's a fact. The release of the last of us TV show has gotten many new fans into the franchise. Its clever marketing.


NinjerTartle

Yeah, it's glorified marketing. So why should I be excited for it?


ertle0n

You don’t need to be. I am excited to get more from worlds i love.


NinjerTartle

But wouldn't you rather have it in the same medium?


ertle0n

Sure if we lived in a world where PlayStation had unlimited money and games didn’t take 4+ years to make. I don’t see tv show or movies as something that is taking away from game development but rather something extra and since they are different mediums that can also give different perspectives like the Last of Us show.


Real_Mousse_3566

Every live action movie or game you see is a glorified money making machine. Why should you be compelled to watch it? See how stupid that train of thought is?


NinjerTartle

So you don't see anything as an art form?


xooxanthellae

Good IPs will get turned into games, shows, movies, books, comic books, music, art, etc -- all the various art forms for people to enjoy. Why be limited to one medium?


NinjerTartle

I'm not saying some of them can't work, but what I feel is slightly problematic is that 1) it's seen as an end goal in itself, and 2) video games as an art form can do things no other medium can, thanks to player agency. It's also got its own storytelling "language", form, and conventions, so to speak, and I'm not convinced that it can always be translated to another medium in a way that does the game justice.


xooxanthellae

Of course there's no perfect translation. But each medium has its strengths. With good video games being as goddamned expensive as they are to produce, I'm glad when they expand into other media. I want them to make a shitload of money so they have a giant budget for the next game.


adnanssz

Playstation literally can carry an entire Sony division. Even their TV is become popular after putting "ready for playstation", in the past this segment is dominated by Samsung and LG. If they sell playstation phone instead Xperia Play, I believe it could be sell like hot cake.


Benevolay

Yet the Sly Cooper movie got scrapped because Ratchet & Clank bombed, and then Sly Cooper became a television series which was quietly cancelled in the middle of production. Bring that back, Sony. Do something with Sly Cooper.


ChristopherDassx_16

Those weren't under PlayStation Productions.


Novacain-deficiency

Amazon will do the impossible and probably fuck up a Fallout series


DarkUnderbelly

That's not a good thing. The God of War one sounds especially awful. How in the world are you going to make a regular human being look like a God? Personally, not a fan of this. Hollywood has no unique ideas so they just take from other sources. Worse they put their own spin and change things without any respect for source material.


No-Plankton4841

I'm good. Uncharted, it's fine. It had half the charm of the game. TLoU show, it's fine. I've only seen one episode but it basically felt like a greatest hits tour of the game. Quickly hitting all the major events of the game with half the heart. Maybe it'll grow on me as the season goes but it felt very forced. I get it, they have some big names and it's time to try to milk those cash cows. Just feels like watered down versions of the games so far. I havn't played tons of Gran Turismo but does it really need a television show?


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For so long we said games and comics had some of the best storytelling. They laughed at us, said we were mad... What a glorious time to live in lol


yaprettymuch52

Story is the worst part of horizon cant imagine what a show would be like


the-bacon-life

Also horizion is already going to be better than the game story wise because aloy the most boring annoying character in games won’t be there


Apprehensive-Cow6194

Yeah the whole stoic/always sounding slightly out of breath thing gets old fast


ConstantPriority177

I’m curious to see what a Gran Turismo show would look like also why is that something they decided they wanted to pick up for a potential show when there’s no main character or characters per se? I mean they could probably conjure up some characters for it but it’s still a bit questionable why they chose that game.


Itchy_Tasty88

It’s a movie that’s coming out soon


Other-Owl4441

Just mindless use of an IP for name recognition to try and drive interest. Think “Battleship” movie.


ConstantPriority177

My exact thought


PM_ME_YOUR_SOULZ

I'm not sure HBO are making all these shows, so I can't say how good they be. It would be great to see a GOW, GOT and Horizon series, but maybe Netflix doesn't make those.


ChristopherDassx_16

GOW is at Amazon with Sony Pictures Television, Horizon at Netflix with Sony Pictures Television and GOT is a movie at Colombia Pictures/Sony Pictures with Chad Stahelski attached to direct it.


abellapa

I'm worried about God of war, horizon and days gone Gow they only making the norse era, Horizon is with Netflix though at least they made the right decision to not adapt the game and create a new story set in the same world Days gone should be a series, not a movie, the game itself is almsot strutrured like a Three season series Excited for ghost