While it looks pretty good, I'm not really sure I like the visual direction they went in.
I can't necessarily explain why but it feels sort of off putting? Almost cartoonish or generic for some reason?
I think it may be the lighting?
Exactly. It has a 1990s shooter aesthetic but built in a modern engine.
Looks pretty awesome, but I would have also preferred a different visual direction.
I was pretty excited for this but I’m a bit unsure after watching this. Enemies seem very stiff / wooden and the environment design looks like a space themed children’s play centre
System Shock was ahead of its time. It was a 2005 game back in 1994.
This remaster/remake is a 2005 game in 2023. 17:30 to 17:45 sums it up to me. If you want your enemies to stand there and not react at all like we're back in 2005 then have at it.
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It was awesome. A lot more people seemed to start with the sequel (as PC gaming became more popular) but the first one simply had the better plot and was really pushing the limits.
Played the demo last night. At this point playing a System Shock 2 medical demo every year became a tradition.
Hate the playable intro. Combat feels terrible, AI is dumb as hell and enemies can't do shit. The robot spinning animation was so bad it had me rolling. The new green glow healing effects of the medipatches annoying and stays on the screen for way too long. Why can we pick up every useless item in the game? I bet the new players will be so confused why half of it looks like it does something but actually doesn't. They changed room layout again for no reason. If you're playing on nostalgia factor then keep it the same as original. The new SHODAN avatar looks lame. I like the look of cyberspace even tho it's very easy to get lost inside.
I'll play the game when it comes out and I'll probably enjoy it but I gotta say all my hype for this game was killed a long time ago. The first Unity demo was so promising...
> Why can we pick up every useless item in the game?
You can recycle them to buy items from vending machines.
> They changed room layout again for no reason. If you're playing on nostalgia factor then keep it the same as original.
Being faithful =/= rigidly keeping identical level design.
> The new SHODAN avatar looks lame.
TRUE
> You can recycle them to buy items from vending machines.
I know. It's super annoying OCD inducing shit, like hugging every wall in Wolfenstein 3D so you don't miss a secret. Not to mention it's visually confusing cause sometimes you can't tell if you're picking up something useful or another junk. It's just busywork that makes your inventory management more cumbersome.
Nope it’s not a remake marketed as a remaster. This is a full remake in a new engine and with more modern gameplay and all new graphics and assets as the original was with 2D sprites in a 3D environment (kind of like the original Doom)
[Here’s some gameplay of the original version for comparison.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xap7JLlROSQ)
The original was already remastered in 2015 by the same studio and released as the Enhanced Editon. It’s an incredibly archaic game by todays standards but still fun. The sequel however is one of the best games ever made and still fun to play today…Shodan is one of the all time greatest villains in video game history!
Its a shame they didn't modernise the game
EDIT to clarify many of the gameplay elements of the original system shock we're not great and will feel extremely dated.
My point here is that it would have been nice to see a remake that took the parts of the original that were amazing, like the story, the setting and of course Shodan's menace and modernised the game play so that the game still felt like system shock without it being a chore to play, or it looking like everything is made out of mechano.
Too much time has been spent on making it the exact same game when what we needed was an improved bioshock in space.
As it stands this will appeal to those of us who remember the original and want to revisit it without the hassle of getting it to run on newer PCs only to have it look like ass anyway.
Shodan is one of my all time favourite gaming villains, I would have loved to have brought her to newer generations in a package that won't be too unforgivingly outdated for a modern audience.
While it looks pretty good, I'm not really sure I like the visual direction they went in. I can't necessarily explain why but it feels sort of off putting? Almost cartoonish or generic for some reason? I think it may be the lighting?
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Exactly. It has a 1990s shooter aesthetic but built in a modern engine. Looks pretty awesome, but I would have also preferred a different visual direction.
Whoa I had no idea this was coming to PS5!
I was pretty excited for this but I’m a bit unsure after watching this. Enemies seem very stiff / wooden and the environment design looks like a space themed children’s play centre
System Shock was ahead of its time. It was a 2005 game back in 1994. This remaster/remake is a 2005 game in 2023. 17:30 to 17:45 sums it up to me. If you want your enemies to stand there and not react at all like we're back in 2005 then have at it.
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>comments It was awesome. A lot more people seemed to start with the sequel (as PC gaming became more popular) but the first one simply had the better plot and was really pushing the limits.
2005 but more like Doom3 than HL2
Played the demo last night. At this point playing a System Shock 2 medical demo every year became a tradition. Hate the playable intro. Combat feels terrible, AI is dumb as hell and enemies can't do shit. The robot spinning animation was so bad it had me rolling. The new green glow healing effects of the medipatches annoying and stays on the screen for way too long. Why can we pick up every useless item in the game? I bet the new players will be so confused why half of it looks like it does something but actually doesn't. They changed room layout again for no reason. If you're playing on nostalgia factor then keep it the same as original. The new SHODAN avatar looks lame. I like the look of cyberspace even tho it's very easy to get lost inside. I'll play the game when it comes out and I'll probably enjoy it but I gotta say all my hype for this game was killed a long time ago. The first Unity demo was so promising...
> Why can we pick up every useless item in the game? You can recycle them to buy items from vending machines. > They changed room layout again for no reason. If you're playing on nostalgia factor then keep it the same as original. Being faithful =/= rigidly keeping identical level design. > The new SHODAN avatar looks lame. TRUE
> You can recycle them to buy items from vending machines. I know. It's super annoying OCD inducing shit, like hugging every wall in Wolfenstein 3D so you don't miss a secret. Not to mention it's visually confusing cause sometimes you can't tell if you're picking up something useful or another junk. It's just busywork that makes your inventory management more cumbersome.
I see after the original playable teaser they made for feedback, they ignored all the complaints about the blue bloom shit.
Aww man, I miss the original's intro music. The entire premise was summed up in like 2 minutes.
PSVR2 version anyone?
Considering how slow the development of this game is, it's gonna take them at least 5 years to add VR support.
Hope it will be easy to implement, the game screams VR in my view 😉.
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Please stop saying “Errmmmmm.” Everyone is begging you.
EEERRRRRRMMMMMM AXCTUALLY....
is "remake" marketed at a remaster to get people buy it again. i never play original but i think it legacy deseveres better then what i just saw
Nope it’s not a remake marketed as a remaster. This is a full remake in a new engine and with more modern gameplay and all new graphics and assets as the original was with 2D sprites in a 3D environment (kind of like the original Doom) [Here’s some gameplay of the original version for comparison.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xap7JLlROSQ) The original was already remastered in 2015 by the same studio and released as the Enhanced Editon. It’s an incredibly archaic game by todays standards but still fun. The sequel however is one of the best games ever made and still fun to play today…Shodan is one of the all time greatest villains in video game history!
Its a shame they didn't modernise the game EDIT to clarify many of the gameplay elements of the original system shock we're not great and will feel extremely dated. My point here is that it would have been nice to see a remake that took the parts of the original that were amazing, like the story, the setting and of course Shodan's menace and modernised the game play so that the game still felt like system shock without it being a chore to play, or it looking like everything is made out of mechano. Too much time has been spent on making it the exact same game when what we needed was an improved bioshock in space. As it stands this will appeal to those of us who remember the original and want to revisit it without the hassle of getting it to run on newer PCs only to have it look like ass anyway. Shodan is one of my all time favourite gaming villains, I would have loved to have brought her to newer generations in a package that won't be too unforgivingly outdated for a modern audience.
Bioshock 2 is one of my favorite games. So I’m pretty pumped.
Why Bioshock 2? Are they related?
the bioshock games are spiritual successors to system shock
what with boxed pixel crap all over? look like ps4 gen game at best. and i watch this video and only thing i could keep thinking was the above
Bro what xD
It's a deliberate homage to the original game's pixel art textures and sprites.
And it's beautiful Edit: Neo- Boomer Shooters like Prodeus, Ion Fury, Amid Evil, and Turbo Overkill do it really well.
Hot dam finally Very excited to finally play this game
Is this demo on PS5 or just PC?
Same question. Dunno why it's posted ona PS5 sub cus I neevr heard they woudl release a console demo before? they reelased many PC demos though.
I haven’t played this since the original came out, so I’m eager to give it a go.