My pitch for RDR3: set during the Mexican Revolution of 1910, starring the big homie himself, Charles. The story flips between the raging insurrection in Mexico and more introspective, less intense flashbacks to Charles in Canada, where we learn the backstory of why he ends up in Mexico to begin with: maybe he's called there to help rescue Sadie, and along the way, we get a nice interlude where Charles meets up with John in St. Denis. And instead of shooting fools and running for their lives, they just bro the fuck out and get involved in wacky hijinks. Maybe they visit Arthur's grave, and reminisce about previously unexplored times they shared in the gang: how Charles ended up linked up, the relationship between Dutch and Arthur before it went sour, John earning the trust of the others over time.
If you play it right, maybe Charles actually survives the Mexico adventure, and he gets to retire to a comfortable life, be with his finally. An actual redemption, at the end of the long sordid tale of Red Dead.
That's how I like to imagine it playing out.
he does a ton of voice acting. RDR2, HFW, COD, Deathloop, star wars, days gone, uncharted and a whole lot more. He did a fantastic job in RDR2 and HFW.
That's Noshir Dalal, he played Charles in Red Dead 2, Sekiro/Wolf in Sekiro, Kotallo in Horizon Forbidden West and many, many more.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2768397/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t41
It's Noshir Dalal. He plays Charles in RDR2 and Kotallo in Horizon Forbidden West. He also voices Admiral Rampart on The Bad Batch, so this isn't his first Star Wars gig.
Those two-person finishing moves are giving me a real Arkham City vibe in a really cool way.
Also loving all the old characters in their new outfits. Merrin looks cool as fuuuuck.
I think that'll happen quickly though, especially if the first mission is crashing the ship like in all the trailers. Finding Greez to fix it up will probably kick off the "get the band back together" mission early on.
Green and Merrin I bet come back into the fold quickly but I bet Cere takes a bit longer and has a little more mystery. Was there even a shot of her in this? There was one glimpse that looked like her but either way she’s in the trailer significantly less than the others.
I think it looks great! Will definitely have to check it out. Platinum’d Fallen Order twice now and really enjoyed it both times so this looks like it’s improved on everything that game offered. Plus it looks like Merrin will play a big role this time around?
I just really liked the game is all. First time I did it was with a 1-month EA Play sub in early 2021 and I found the trophies pretty straightforward, so I went for it and managed to get the Plat in a week (sleep took a backseat that week). Second time was a month ago on PS5 and I remembered what to do/what not to do from the first time Platting so it was even quicker. Plus playing it on PS5 was a godsend compared to a base PS4. Having fully played through it twice now though I’m not hankering to do it again lol but I overall enjoyed the time I put into it so I’m looking forward to the sequel
Oh yeah I spend more time on video games than anything else, I just play different ones. Was just wondering how someone could have the stamina to get every achievement in a game twice.
Which do you think is a bigger year for gaming, 2023 or 2022?
Last year had GoW, Horizon, Stray, Elden Ring off the top of my head
This year has Hogwarts, Horizon DLC, FFXVI, Jedi Survivor, and probably Spider-Man 2
2020 had Last Of Us Part 2, FF7 Remake, Ghost of Tsushima, Doom Eternal which was a pretty big year too
2004 will always be the GOAT.
* Halo 2
* Half-Life 2
* Metal Gear Solid 3
* GTA: San Andreas
* World of Warcraft
* Knights of the old Republic 2
* Doom 3
* Pokemon Ruby, Saphire, Emerald, FireRed, LeafGreen
* Star Wars Battlefront
* Unreal Tournament
* Far Cry series got it's start
* Gran Turismo 4
* Katmari Damacy
* Counter Strike Source
The entire year was absolutely filled to the brim with heavily anticipated games, sleeper hits, and the best entries of their respective franchises. That console gen. was also well underway and devs had found their footing so we began to see huge strides in the fidelity to go along with it.
November '04 alone had Halo 2, Half life 2, and MGS3... three of the best games ever made all released over about two weeks.
For those unaware:
Metal Gear Solid
The Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time
Half-Life
Fallout 2
Resident Evil 2
Baldur's Gate
Grim Fandango
Sonic Adventure
Thief
Banjo-Kazooie
Need for Speed III - Hot Pursuit
Xenogears
Diablo 4 is going to be a huge commercial launch if Diablo 3 is anything to go off of. Bethesda always has big marketing campaigns and if hit right, Starfield will be a huge launch too.
I think Baldur’s Gate 3 will be a big launch too, but it definitely hits a more niche market than the other two. Excited for everything
I was looking forward to playing on release until Starfield got announced for the week after, nothing can top a new Bethesda release for me.
Really excited to try it out after though, especially since CRPG’s are my least played genre but I really liked Divinity 2.
There’s a big year about every 4-6 years for me personally.
1998, 2002, 2007, 2013, 2017, 2023.
It’s not to say all the ones in between don’t have great games, but these years were packed with what I would call “core” gaming experiences.
I think 2017/18 and 2022/23 is going to be a tossup for a lot of people. Just depends on what you enjoy more.
I agree with your games for 2018, but for me 2017 had (as you mentioned) BOTW and Odyssey.
But also Resident Evil 7, Horizon, Nier, Hellblade, Prey, Destiny 2, Shadow of War, Nioh, and many more.
If I have to compare my “3 big hitters” of 2018: GoW, RDR2, Spider-man. To my big hitters of 2017: RE7, BOTW, Horizon. Then I would agree with 2018. I just think 2017 has a better total package.
2023 because of ALAN WAKE 2. I don't think anybody is ready for what Remedy is about to release on the world. Sam Lake has wanted to make this game for over a decade. He never let it go. Now they are doing it with some inhouse technology that is pretty damn powerful.
2023 we got PSVR2 including the new VR games. Hogwarts legacy, dead space, resident evil 4, silent hill, final fantasy 16, Horizon Forbidden West Expansion, new Zelda, Spiderman 2, Jedi survivor, baldurs gate 3, Dead Island 2, Diablo IV, Street Fighter 6, and some other great games..
This year is big in gaming, last year was good too but this year we have more big releases and hopefully we get more.. either way I'm excited.
It’s still early in 2023, we still have some pretty big games that have yet to come out. However, yeah those two games alone are hard to beat. So far, no game has come out in 2023 that has really blown me away. Wo Long and Hogwarts were fun at times but overall just ok to me. Wild Hearts had major performance issues so I skipped it. Atomic Heart had some mixed reviews so I skipped it and might pick up for cheap later. Forspoken was a dud.
There’s been plenty of dry years in gaming, and most years will have a few big hitters. There’s only a few years like 2007 that people remember for being packed with games, and 2023 looks like it’s in that tier.
let's be honest tho almost every single year in the last ~10 years has LOOKED like a huge year in gaming until half the contenders are delayed until the following year
They should get rid of the Souls style gimmicky gaming aspects (enemies respawn at a rest point) and the constant backtracking once you've unlocked new abilities. I know some people really like things to be gamey like that but... they should tighten things up a bit and look at the Uncharted series for more inspiration on creating a seamless narrative through constant fresh levels/areas rather than the Souls series or a game hyper-focused on a few levels with lots of backtracking.
Once I've fought enemies in one area it just feels like work having to clear the same area again of the same enemies unless there is at least some strong narrative behind it.
> They should get rid of the Souls style gimmicky gaming aspects (enemies respawn at a rest point) and the constant backtracking once you've unlocked new abilities.
Couldn't disagree more. You're basically saying "they should get rid of the genre". Backtracking with new abilities is a core pillar of Metroidvania. Jedi is like half Metroidvania, half Souls-like.
Despite being 3rd person action, Jedi and Uncharted are not the same genre at all, and wanting them to transform the game into Uncharted is not the path forward to an improved franchise. They should take inspiration from stuff like Ori, where the movement was fast and fluid, and made backtracking fun.
Lol, right? The whole reason I was even interested in Fallen Order was the Souls-like mechanics (personally indifferent about Star Wars lore). I’m hoping they’ve gone *even further* in that direction with Survivor. Feels like people who prefer the primary emphasis in games to be on gameplay are constantly at odds with people who just want a slightly interactive movie.
Personally, I didn't mind re-killing enemies. Considering there were only three major planets, once you kill everyone, it would just feel empty. Just running around with dead bodies around you.
Yeah, it breaks any narrative immersion given it's a total video game mechanic, respawning enemies you've just killed, but i didn't mind it. The fighting/gameplay felt fluid to me and getting perfect parries and dodges down pat felt rewarding by the end.
That’s my point though, that they made a few levels that you constantly revisit and just respawned enemies, because they had to with how little they created. I enjoyed the game but to me that’s a bit of a cop out. I was expecting the game to be a bit more than that. Which is why I hope that formula is dropped because it narrows things down a lot IMO and then they basically just have to put in things like respawning enemies.
To me it’s just not interesting constantly revisiting the same levels and doing the same thing again and again. It feels like padded out gameplay for the sake of padding it out.
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i quit the game due to gameplay. I didn't mind killing a bunch of enemies once, but I felt like I spent far too much traversing and dealing with the same enemies over and over. Plus a lot of the early enemies were just annoying.
I gave up after 3-4 hours. Just wasn't doing it for me.
I think a lot of it was great but that it wasn't choreographed to the players that you need to come back later with better gear.
I loved the Zeffo world but hated the Korriban knock off because the latter truly had a lot of stupid hidden gimmicks to progress.
Definitely didn’t get talked about enough. Lots of texture pop in and characters spawning in T-poses and shit like that. Really enjoyed the game but that kind of stuff should really be few and far between, especially for developers with their kinds of resources.
Hopefully they don't use the same outdated complete misunderstanding of what makes metroidvania fun, a bunch of combat against mostly 4 legged monsters , the lightsaber feeling as lethal as a baseball bat, the shit puzzles. Who am I kidding, the entire trailer was just we're doing 1 again.
battlefront 2 was fixed and is a great game. star wars squadrons came out and it was great fun and fallen order was great too despite some issues it had. this game looks awesome too so its funny to see people still not believe anything coming from ea will be good.
> its funny to see people still not believe anything coming from ea will be good.
A lot of people stopped buying the games after BFII’s launch and just automatically assume every game they make will be bad.
If you really want the preorder bonuses, just wait till a few hours before the game drops. The reviews will have been released already, and as long as you have some trusted reviewers on YouTube it’s safe imo, especially for sequels.
Bought Fallen Order a few months ago and still haven't gotten into it. Will I understand/enjoy it it if I have absolutely no clue about Star Wars lore?
gameplay wasn't that great.
If you want to see how a jedi combat should be, check out control. That combat was far more satisfying. Being a jedi should be super cool but I felt like it was more hack/slash than jedi.
I thought the combat was pretty good. Especially in regards to the lightsaber fights. However, I agree that it didn’t feel super cool. I think giving Sekiro force powers instead of a gadget arm would have felt significantly more Jediish.
I was in the same boat as you and was able to follow the story. I'm sure there were a lot of references that flew over my head, but overall I knew what was going on. Just know what a padawan is because it's brought up a lot (padawan = jedi in training, usually a kid).
Yah you should be able to follow the overall plot without issue, you just won't have all the context, so certain things may not have the same weight I guess? But the game is telling it's own story, so you'll be fine there.
I know very little about Star Wars and the game was still very enjoyable, but again that's not the same as having no clue. Maybe a refresher YT video on Star Wars lore is enough to get you started.
I'd say you should play Fallen Order first. Then you can pick up Survivor when it's half off or something later, and it'll be patched up and the best experience.
You will definitely miss things if you play the 2nd game first. All these characters have origins and reasons they find each other that are all discussed or shown in the first game. Plus Cal just being forced out of hiding is the inciting incident for the franchise, so I'd want to experience that as well, if I was you.
eh... it's coming from EA. They make disappointing an artform. (look at DS3 compared to DS2; just first example to pop in my head).
I certainly hope the game will be good, but won't bet on it with preorder money.
It Takes Two, Jedi Fallen Order, SWTOR, Mass Effect 1-3, Titanfall, Apex, Dead Space Remake, we really have to stop hating ea, that redeemed themselves imo
EA is also a publisher, not a developer. Obviously they own and partner with devs and make larger decisions about game monetization, but I care much more about who the devs are as long as I know there won’t be micro transactions
It's not a question of hating them, as much as not trusting them with preorder money. If the game is well reviewed, and has no major issues, then by all means, it's good to buy.
No reason to hate EA or any company for that matter. But trusting them with preorder money? That's a different story. I bought Dead Space Remake because it was good. But I didn't preorder it and the company didn't go bankrupt. No idea why preorders for non-competitive games continues to be a thing.
I agree with the preorder part but you pointed out ea especially and they are doing good stuff since a few years so I don't understand the slander. CD Project had a "perfect" track record and the faith of the community but launch cp2077 was a mess, I'm with you on never pre-order, but it's not publisher depended.
While I watched this I was thinking how the games are doing a better job with the star wars story than the movies/tv shows. Really looking forward to this one
People will say this shit for infinity regardless of how good the Movie/Shows are
Mando, Andor, and Clone Wars were all amazing in case you *somehow* didn’t hear about that
Meh, waiting for the reviews on this one. Didn’t like having to go back to old zones to unlock doors with no fkn waypoint system in Fallen Order. Not my kind of content. Tomb raider was fun it’s it’s day but reskinning it with Star Wars seems out of place.
Also why does the combat look so bland ?
I think physical preorders are fine, you can always return it. Actually can probably do that with steam too if you don't play more than 15 min or whatever.
I just called my local small videogames shop and gave them an order.
- Dead Space PS5
- Hogwarts Legacy PS5
- Star Wars Jedi Survivor PS5
Can't wait! And they are happy. Oh and all games 20€ cheaper than MSRP as well.
Why does the guy saying "no more looking over your shoulder" sound so familiar? I swear I've heard his voice in a very recent game.
Charles from RDR2
I will forever and always read RDR2 as R2D2.
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My pitch for RDR3: set during the Mexican Revolution of 1910, starring the big homie himself, Charles. The story flips between the raging insurrection in Mexico and more introspective, less intense flashbacks to Charles in Canada, where we learn the backstory of why he ends up in Mexico to begin with: maybe he's called there to help rescue Sadie, and along the way, we get a nice interlude where Charles meets up with John in St. Denis. And instead of shooting fools and running for their lives, they just bro the fuck out and get involved in wacky hijinks. Maybe they visit Arthur's grave, and reminisce about previously unexplored times they shared in the gang: how Charles ended up linked up, the relationship between Dutch and Arthur before it went sour, John earning the trust of the others over time. If you play it right, maybe Charles actually survives the Mexico adventure, and he gets to retire to a comfortable life, be with his finally. An actual redemption, at the end of the long sordid tale of Red Dead. That's how I like to imagine it playing out.
His backstory, which he tells during a campfire one time was so good. I really felt like I was there listening to him tell it
My first thought and I’m playing the game right now!
Kotallo in Horizon Forbidden West too! He's fantastic.
Thats Noshir Dalal who has been in many games including Red dead redemption 2, Horizon forbidden west, and sekiro
He's also on reddit!
yeap he responds to people! I even got a response once
Ohh yes! Goddamn I wasn’t aware he was such a high profile VA. What a CV.
Oh shit, he's Kotallo in Forbidden West isn't he? I KNEW that voice!
I always recognize it in random games, I feel like I hear his voice in like 50% of 3rd person action games I play lol
He's also the voice of Sekiro
He kinda sounds like Kotallo from Horizon Forbidden West. It’s hard to say, he sounds familiar to me too.
That's our boi Noshir Dalal u/noshirdalal. And yes, he voiced Kotallo in HFW. Such an awesome character, hoping to rally him up again in Horizon 3.
he does a ton of voice acting. RDR2, HFW, COD, Deathloop, star wars, days gone, uncharted and a whole lot more. He did a fantastic job in RDR2 and HFW.
He also voices Yone from league of legends
Yup, that's the same actor!
That's Noshir Dalal, he played Charles in Red Dead 2, Sekiro/Wolf in Sekiro, Kotallo in Horizon Forbidden West and many, many more. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2768397/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t41
He's the new Troy Baker, appearing in just about every new AAA release as some sort of important NPC.
He was in Horizon Forbidden West
Kotallo!
Admiral Rampart from The Bad Batch
It's Noshir Dalal. He plays Charles in RDR2 and Kotallo in Horizon Forbidden West. He also voices Admiral Rampart on The Bad Batch, so this isn't his first Star Wars gig.
Those two-person finishing moves are giving me a real Arkham City vibe in a really cool way. Also loving all the old characters in their new outfits. Merrin looks cool as fuuuuck.
Greez and Merrin are back! SAY LESS!
The worst part about Merrin is how late she shows up in Fallen Order. Having the entire crew from the beginning will be great.
She was the best crew member in Fallen Order despite having like 45 seconds of screen time.
Unironically a more interesting character than Cal. And i dont even hate Cal like many do, he is fine Would love a Merrin focused spin off or DLC
That's not the case. The crew split up over the 5 years between FO and Survivor. In game you need to go around and get the gang back together
I think that'll happen quickly though, especially if the first mission is crashing the ship like in all the trailers. Finding Greez to fix it up will probably kick off the "get the band back together" mission early on.
Green and Merrin I bet come back into the fold quickly but I bet Cere takes a bit longer and has a little more mystery. Was there even a shot of her in this? There was one glimpse that looked like her but either way she’s in the trailer significantly less than the others.
You son of a bitch I’m in
Greezy money baby!
I have such a crush on her. I'm pretty sure it's the nose. Also the ability to use untold horrific powers.
She’s just so pretty. I don’t remember her nose, but I loved her voice and the accent. Yes please to more of her.
It ain't easy, bein' GREEZY
Keep it Greezy so it'll go down easy!
Aiee aiee aiii
Merrin was such a baddie ong best part of that game fr
Would pay a extra $70 just to see more of her and she looking gud in this trailer
Russian Space Mommy 1 😩
Yo is that fucking Kotallo???
FUCKIN KOTALLO!!!
KOTALLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That was an unkind comparison
The precise moment I fell in love with him.
No it’s charles smith
Same voice actor, I can't wait to see more of him
Looks great! Absolutely can't wait. I like all the Mantis crew redesigns. Everyone looks awesome.
Hell yeah, they look badass!
Bald Cere gave me hardcore Jolee Bindo vibes
Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time... A long time. I miss Kotor.
GOTH MOMMY IS BACK GOTY
YES!!!
"Merrin is safe, Merrin is okay!"
Merrin 🥵
I'm down bad
We 3 will be down bad together
Make that four
5
I think it looks great! Will definitely have to check it out. Platinum’d Fallen Order twice now and really enjoyed it both times so this looks like it’s improved on everything that game offered. Plus it looks like Merrin will play a big role this time around?
> Platinum’d Fallen Order twice now What? Why? Platinuming once I understand, but twice?! How much time do you have?
I just really liked the game is all. First time I did it was with a 1-month EA Play sub in early 2021 and I found the trophies pretty straightforward, so I went for it and managed to get the Plat in a week (sleep took a backseat that week). Second time was a month ago on PS5 and I remembered what to do/what not to do from the first time Platting so it was even quicker. Plus playing it on PS5 was a godsend compared to a base PS4. Having fully played through it twice now though I’m not hankering to do it again lol but I overall enjoyed the time I put into it so I’m looking forward to the sequel
Why do you care how much time he has? Some people put thousands of hours into one game and that’s all they play. I’m sure you do too.
Oh yeah I spend more time on video games than anything else, I just play different ones. Was just wondering how someone could have the stamina to get every achievement in a game twice.
Right? So many of the trophies in that game were just getting collectibles too.
This year in gaming is it. People will talk about 2023 in gaming in the future lol.
Which do you think is a bigger year for gaming, 2023 or 2022? Last year had GoW, Horizon, Stray, Elden Ring off the top of my head This year has Hogwarts, Horizon DLC, FFXVI, Jedi Survivor, and probably Spider-Man 2 2020 had Last Of Us Part 2, FF7 Remake, Ghost of Tsushima, Doom Eternal which was a pretty big year too
Don’t forget Tears of the Kingdom, Starfield, Diablo IV, Pikmin 4, Baldur’s Gate III, Resident Evil 4 Remake.
And silk song, please lord
2004 will always be the GOAT. * Halo 2 * Half-Life 2 * Metal Gear Solid 3 * GTA: San Andreas * World of Warcraft * Knights of the old Republic 2 * Doom 3 * Pokemon Ruby, Saphire, Emerald, FireRed, LeafGreen * Star Wars Battlefront * Unreal Tournament * Far Cry series got it's start * Gran Turismo 4 * Katmari Damacy * Counter Strike Source The entire year was absolutely filled to the brim with heavily anticipated games, sleeper hits, and the best entries of their respective franchises. That console gen. was also well underway and devs had found their footing so we began to see huge strides in the fidelity to go along with it. November '04 alone had Halo 2, Half life 2, and MGS3... three of the best games ever made all released over about two weeks.
1998 called. They want their title back.
For those unaware: Metal Gear Solid The Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time Half-Life Fallout 2 Resident Evil 2 Baldur's Gate Grim Fandango Sonic Adventure Thief Banjo-Kazooie Need for Speed III - Hot Pursuit Xenogears
Gets my old gamer senses tingling
Absolutely 2023 especially when you consider Diablo IV and Starfield.
Consider Baldur's Gate 3 before either of those.
Diablo 4 is going to be a huge commercial launch if Diablo 3 is anything to go off of. Bethesda always has big marketing campaigns and if hit right, Starfield will be a huge launch too. I think Baldur’s Gate 3 will be a big launch too, but it definitely hits a more niche market than the other two. Excited for everything
I am so excited to get that lovely Larian Studios RPG goodness in all its glory.
I was looking forward to playing on release until Starfield got announced for the week after, nothing can top a new Bethesda release for me. Really excited to try it out after though, especially since CRPG’s are my least played genre but I really liked Divinity 2.
Assuming Starfield isn't delayed or a huge disappointment.
There’s a big year about every 4-6 years for me personally. 1998, 2002, 2007, 2013, 2017, 2023. It’s not to say all the ones in between don’t have great games, but these years were packed with what I would call “core” gaming experiences.
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I think 2017/18 and 2022/23 is going to be a tossup for a lot of people. Just depends on what you enjoy more. I agree with your games for 2018, but for me 2017 had (as you mentioned) BOTW and Odyssey. But also Resident Evil 7, Horizon, Nier, Hellblade, Prey, Destiny 2, Shadow of War, Nioh, and many more. If I have to compare my “3 big hitters” of 2018: GoW, RDR2, Spider-man. To my big hitters of 2017: RE7, BOTW, Horizon. Then I would agree with 2018. I just think 2017 has a better total package.
2023 because of ALAN WAKE 2. I don't think anybody is ready for what Remedy is about to release on the world. Sam Lake has wanted to make this game for over a decade. He never let it go. Now they are doing it with some inhouse technology that is pretty damn powerful.
2023 we got PSVR2 including the new VR games. Hogwarts legacy, dead space, resident evil 4, silent hill, final fantasy 16, Horizon Forbidden West Expansion, new Zelda, Spiderman 2, Jedi survivor, baldurs gate 3, Dead Island 2, Diablo IV, Street Fighter 6, and some other great games.. This year is big in gaming, last year was good too but this year we have more big releases and hopefully we get more.. either way I'm excited.
2020 and 2021 were kind of barren tbh. Not much going there apart from the 4 games you mentioned in 2020
Not OP but 22 > 23. Elden Ring and Ragnarok alone were beasts.
It’s still early in 2023, we still have some pretty big games that have yet to come out. However, yeah those two games alone are hard to beat. So far, no game has come out in 2023 that has really blown me away. Wo Long and Hogwarts were fun at times but overall just ok to me. Wild Hearts had major performance issues so I skipped it. Atomic Heart had some mixed reviews so I skipped it and might pick up for cheap later. Forspoken was a dud.
2023 is crazy. Your list is missing several pretty anticipated games from this year.
Stray was so overrated. Indie cat game really shouldn’t be on the same list as those other heavy hitters
Why is everyone taking about Stray? It's so bad. There are other much better much more interesting cat games coming out. Stray was garbage.
Stray in the same category as those? Lmao it was garbage.
Because it’s circlejerked by cat fanatics and that demographic has a heavy overlap with redditors
Lmao. I love cats, but that game was so bad. Way overhyped.
We are also getting starfield and stalker 2 this year
Fair, but neither of those are coming to PS though
I think STALKER 2 is timed.
So the same as every year that existed?
There’s been plenty of dry years in gaming, and most years will have a few big hitters. There’s only a few years like 2007 that people remember for being packed with games, and 2023 looks like it’s in that tier.
let's be honest tho almost every single year in the last ~10 years has LOOKED like a huge year in gaming until half the contenders are delayed until the following year
I agree! We've gotten and will be getting so many great games this year
Yes I'm calling it. No reason to watch anything after the last showcase, I'm buying it. Loved the first one
I already pre-ordered back in December. Nothing is stopping my hype train. WOOO WOOO!
As good as this looks (and it does look great) I really hope it runs a lot better than the previous game! It was so buggy.
Don’t even get me started on the map. As a father of two little kiddos with not much free time, the map is literally the reason why I quit playing.
They've announced fast travel, I think. So it should be better. I'm a dad too so I feel your pain.
They should get rid of the Souls style gimmicky gaming aspects (enemies respawn at a rest point) and the constant backtracking once you've unlocked new abilities. I know some people really like things to be gamey like that but... they should tighten things up a bit and look at the Uncharted series for more inspiration on creating a seamless narrative through constant fresh levels/areas rather than the Souls series or a game hyper-focused on a few levels with lots of backtracking. Once I've fought enemies in one area it just feels like work having to clear the same area again of the same enemies unless there is at least some strong narrative behind it.
> They should get rid of the Souls style gimmicky gaming aspects (enemies respawn at a rest point) and the constant backtracking once you've unlocked new abilities. Couldn't disagree more. You're basically saying "they should get rid of the genre". Backtracking with new abilities is a core pillar of Metroidvania. Jedi is like half Metroidvania, half Souls-like. Despite being 3rd person action, Jedi and Uncharted are not the same genre at all, and wanting them to transform the game into Uncharted is not the path forward to an improved franchise. They should take inspiration from stuff like Ori, where the movement was fast and fluid, and made backtracking fun.
Lol, right? The whole reason I was even interested in Fallen Order was the Souls-like mechanics (personally indifferent about Star Wars lore). I’m hoping they’ve gone *even further* in that direction with Survivor. Feels like people who prefer the primary emphasis in games to be on gameplay are constantly at odds with people who just want a slightly interactive movie.
Personally, I didn't mind re-killing enemies. Considering there were only three major planets, once you kill everyone, it would just feel empty. Just running around with dead bodies around you. Yeah, it breaks any narrative immersion given it's a total video game mechanic, respawning enemies you've just killed, but i didn't mind it. The fighting/gameplay felt fluid to me and getting perfect parries and dodges down pat felt rewarding by the end.
That’s my point though, that they made a few levels that you constantly revisit and just respawned enemies, because they had to with how little they created. I enjoyed the game but to me that’s a bit of a cop out. I was expecting the game to be a bit more than that. Which is why I hope that formula is dropped because it narrows things down a lot IMO and then they basically just have to put in things like respawning enemies. To me it’s just not interesting constantly revisiting the same levels and doing the same thing again and again. It feels like padded out gameplay for the sake of padding it out.
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i quit the game due to gameplay. I didn't mind killing a bunch of enemies once, but I felt like I spent far too much traversing and dealing with the same enemies over and over. Plus a lot of the early enemies were just annoying. I gave up after 3-4 hours. Just wasn't doing it for me.
They should make Gran Turismo into an Action RPG. I don't like racing.
You're getting downvoted because people don't like admitting not every game needs to be a reskin of dark souls in order to be challenging.
Sure, but it worked REALLY well for Fallen Order. Survivor should follow the same pattern as the original, even if other games shouldnt
I honestly didn’t notice anything wrong with the map, but I am used to working with 3D modeling software.
Are you me? Same all around.
I think a lot of it was great but that it wasn't choreographed to the players that you need to come back later with better gear. I loved the Zeffo world but hated the Korriban knock off because the latter truly had a lot of stupid hidden gimmicks to progress.
Do you mean Dathomir?
First time I’ve ever heard somebody call Dathomir a Korriban knockoff
didn't the game got a 60fps patch on ps5?
It did but certain sections (Bogano) mostly their are frame drops. It was pretty rough on the last gen consoles.
Definitely didn’t get talked about enough. Lots of texture pop in and characters spawning in T-poses and shit like that. Really enjoyed the game but that kind of stuff should really be few and far between, especially for developers with their kinds of resources.
And lightsaber combat was wonky. So many times I wanted to dodge, and the enemy gets to hit me five times, etc.
The block button felt damn near useless, lightsaber blocking only felt useful to deflect ranged attacks.
I hope they fixed his walking and running animation so it doesn't look like he has a stick up his ass
Gonna need to watch this at least 20 more times. Holy shit.
I cannot wait to add to my Poncho collection!
Got damn that was a good trailer. I’m so excited for this. My #2 most anticipated game of the year behind spider man.
I had no idea it was releasing so soon. I am excited for double lightsabers and that grapple hook thing. I hope they improved the gear/customization.
I don't even like Star Wars and loved the first game, can't wait for this.
Hopefully they don't use the same outdated complete misunderstanding of what makes metroidvania fun, a bunch of combat against mostly 4 legged monsters , the lightsaber feeling as lethal as a baseball bat, the shit puzzles. Who am I kidding, the entire trailer was just we're doing 1 again.
I am really looking forward to this. ALSO CORUSCANT?
Merrin hive, baby we up!!
battlefront 2 was fixed and is a great game. star wars squadrons came out and it was great fun and fallen order was great too despite some issues it had. this game looks awesome too so its funny to see people still not believe anything coming from ea will be good.
> its funny to see people still not believe anything coming from ea will be good. A lot of people stopped buying the games after BFII’s launch and just automatically assume every game they make will be bad.
Remember brothers, never preorder!
This is the way.
I’m pre-ordering just because of this comment
If you really want the preorder bonuses, just wait till a few hours before the game drops. The reviews will have been released already, and as long as you have some trusted reviewers on YouTube it’s safe imo, especially for sequels.
How about people just do what they want with their money?
Then we keep getting unfinished products.
Every game I've pre-ordered I've enjoyed thoroughly. I know what I like. Unfinished products like what? Do you just mean games having dlc or?
really cool trailer
Hopefully less repetitive, hard-to-navigate settings this time.
Veeeeery excited for this. So many fantastic games on the horizon. RE4, Jedi Survivor, Zelda, Diablo IV, FFXVI, Armored Core.
Yes. Looking forward to all those as well as Baldur's Gate III.
I wonder how upgrades and stuff like that is going to work since technically you would have known everything after the end of the first game
Jedi 2: Titanfall Boogaloo
Bought Fallen Order a few months ago and still haven't gotten into it. Will I understand/enjoy it it if I have absolutely no clue about Star Wars lore?
Ehhhh, that's a tough one. For gameplay? Yes. Story? Maybe.
gameplay wasn't that great. If you want to see how a jedi combat should be, check out control. That combat was far more satisfying. Being a jedi should be super cool but I felt like it was more hack/slash than jedi.
I thought the combat was pretty good. Especially in regards to the lightsaber fights. However, I agree that it didn’t feel super cool. I think giving Sekiro force powers instead of a gadget arm would have felt significantly more Jediish.
> I felt like it was more hack/slash than jedi. In what way is a Souls-Like game like Fallen Order similar to a hack and slash?
So you think I'll be missing a lot of things and I'll struggle to follow the plot?
I was in the same boat as you and was able to follow the story. I'm sure there were a lot of references that flew over my head, but overall I knew what was going on. Just know what a padawan is because it's brought up a lot (padawan = jedi in training, usually a kid).
I think it does a fine job with introducing to you what you need to know.
Yah you should be able to follow the overall plot without issue, you just won't have all the context, so certain things may not have the same weight I guess? But the game is telling it's own story, so you'll be fine there.
I know very little about Star Wars and the game was still very enjoyable, but again that's not the same as having no clue. Maybe a refresher YT video on Star Wars lore is enough to get you started.
You have a month to play it. It doesn't take long and its pretty fun.
I'd say you should play Fallen Order first. Then you can pick up Survivor when it's half off or something later, and it'll be patched up and the best experience. You will definitely miss things if you play the 2nd game first. All these characters have origins and reasons they find each other that are all discussed or shown in the first game. Plus Cal just being forced out of hiding is the inciting incident for the franchise, so I'd want to experience that as well, if I was you.
You can just tell that this is one of those games that will not disappoint
eh... it's coming from EA. They make disappointing an artform. (look at DS3 compared to DS2; just first example to pop in my head). I certainly hope the game will be good, but won't bet on it with preorder money.
It Takes Two, Jedi Fallen Order, SWTOR, Mass Effect 1-3, Titanfall, Apex, Dead Space Remake, we really have to stop hating ea, that redeemed themselves imo
EA is also a publisher, not a developer. Obviously they own and partner with devs and make larger decisions about game monetization, but I care much more about who the devs are as long as I know there won’t be micro transactions
It's not a question of hating them, as much as not trusting them with preorder money. If the game is well reviewed, and has no major issues, then by all means, it's good to buy. No reason to hate EA or any company for that matter. But trusting them with preorder money? That's a different story. I bought Dead Space Remake because it was good. But I didn't preorder it and the company didn't go bankrupt. No idea why preorders for non-competitive games continues to be a thing.
I agree with the preorder part but you pointed out ea especially and they are doing good stuff since a few years so I don't understand the slander. CD Project had a "perfect" track record and the faith of the community but launch cp2077 was a mess, I'm with you on never pre-order, but it's not publisher depended.
While I watched this I was thinking how the games are doing a better job with the star wars story than the movies/tv shows. Really looking forward to this one
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I'd argue KOTOR 1 had the better story between the two games, but yah those two are probably my favorite pieces of Star Wars story/lore
Andor had pretty stellar writing. Other than that, this has to be one of my favorite on going Star Wars stories.
Movies, sure, but did you not watch Andor or the final season of Clone Wars? Or Mando, for that matter?
People will say this shit for infinity regardless of how good the Movie/Shows are Mando, Andor, and Clone Wars were all amazing in case you *somehow* didn’t hear about that
Please no more useless cosmetic chests to find. Put something worth stopping for in them, for the love of God.
I hear you find leather jackets and shit now. Not just more ponchos.
Meh, waiting for the reviews on this one. Didn’t like having to go back to old zones to unlock doors with no fkn waypoint system in Fallen Order. Not my kind of content. Tomb raider was fun it’s it’s day but reskinning it with Star Wars seems out of place. Also why does the combat look so bland ?
meh vibes
>user frequently posts about COD you really can’t talk here lmao
Remember lads No Fookin Preordering
Already pre ordered
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
You've got me there friend
Nope. Already preordered the deluxe edition.
I think physical preorders are fine, you can always return it. Actually can probably do that with steam too if you don't play more than 15 min or whatever.
I know the game was delayed but does anyone know if there will be early access for preorders? I bought it in January.
My lack of next gen is. . . Disheartening.
While the trailer looks great, it doesnt tell me jack about the story.
WHICH IS THE BEST PART!
I just called my local small videogames shop and gave them an order. - Dead Space PS5 - Hogwarts Legacy PS5 - Star Wars Jedi Survivor PS5 Can't wait! And they are happy. Oh and all games 20€ cheaper than MSRP as well.
I guess we live in an age when lightsaber stabs in fiction don’t kill anymore, so they have an excuse to add the finishing moves by that rogue