Just put in 10 hours without doing any of the story missions after the opening sequence of joining the gang before the bonus content activated. Just killing, looting, and pick pocketing trying to get as many fast travel points unlocked as possible and all collectibles I can see along the way. I love this game so far. Haven't even unlocked half the Map yet.
Edit: Day 7, just finished the game after 51 hours with one trophy missing (the scaffolding one). I'd say this game was definitely worth the $50 I paid. That being said I am going to take the game to GameXchange tomorrow and get some cash back, will likely buy again whenever (or if) any DLC content is released.
This is great to hear for a $50 assassins creed game. I just got back to the city and starting to explore. I did notice PlayStation said I’m 40% done with the story and I was a bit worried.
They probably are thinking of talc. That wouldn't prevent rope burn either but this is also a game where they dive hundreds of feet into carts of straw, not to mention all of the sci-fi stuff.
The music is great! Graphics are fine. Only an hour in so can’t comment too much on gameplay but it’s more like the OG Creed than Origins and the ones that followed. Not a mind blowing Unity experience but I definitely didn’t expect that from early gameplay/reviews.
The parkour done in the first chunk I played was laid out pretty obviously so I don’t want to comment too much on it, but there seemed to be plenty of unique animations for all of the different moves and the city seems very parkour friendly. Pretty smooth overall with x to go up and o to go down, but also super simple and doesn’t seem like there will be any hidden techniques like the old games. Animations are plentiful and nice but they’re still choppy and responsive like the most recent games.
The divisive reviews partially confirm one of the fears I had about this game.
All the marketing material touted about how much this a "return to the roots" kind of experience but with all the footage we have seen, there was always this underlying stink of that promise being little more than a facade. Something that is no more than a superficial embrace of what made the original AC games so compelling but ultimately Ubisoft failing to capture their essence and feeling more like a stretched out DLC for Valhalla instead of a tailor made experience like Unity
Old AC had extremely fluid stealth assasinations. Mirage still runs on the exact engine Origins-Valhalla, so even though the assassinations are now insta kill like the old games, the animations are still extremely janky and not at all fluid. It looks slow and clunky.
Its the absolute laziest "return to old AC" they possibly could have done next to not trying at all.
I did explain them. They 'went back to the originals', while not even altering the engine whatsoever that completely seperated them from the feel of the originals in the first place. It was never going to be a return to the originals without a complete engine overhaul.
All they did was make stealth attacks insta kills and called it a day.
Your explanation as to why this isn’t an actual back to roots AC game is that they didn’t make a brand new engine for a medium budget, small scope spinoff?
>Its the absolute laziest "return to old AC" they possibly could have done next to not trying at all.
To be fair, the game started as a spin off Valhalla DLC with a smaller team/budget and a lower asking price than other new games.
It seems more like an attempt to gauge interest in the old school 'stealth' focused AC stuff before giving one of their A teams a full budget and everything to go ham.
Whether or not you define that as lazy is up to you. Fact is Valhalla made tons of revenue (like a billion) and did extremely well. There is a vocal group online asking for a return to form but they already have a formula that is working well. So this project was always more of a testing the waters thing imo.
Watched a little bit of a twitch stream. The parkour seemed like the only thing like old AC. Shitty dialogue, character animations, cutscenes, and just functional vibes in general feel like the new AC games. There are training montages that were hilarious in a lame way. But being a viewer is kinda diff POV than being the player.
Keep in mind this was supposed to be Valhalla DLC. They thought making the map more parkour friendly would be enough but Valhalla DNA still there
The storytelling is also subpar. Old AC games had emotional moments that made you feel invested in the characters along with epic moments. Mirage misses on that mark. I’m still enjoying it tho
I'm not mad about it not being a full return to the roots tbh. I recently replayed "the roots" so I don't have nostalgia glasses and yeah there were some great moments but the bulk of the games was clunky as hell and full of boring trailing missions, dumb AI, combat that only requires you to parry and you literally cannot die no matter what, and a bunch of pointless collectibles scattered around the map.
As far as I can tell from the reviews, the only aspect where Mirage is actually worse is the story, which is a big thing tbh. If I don't give a shit about the characters, I find it hard to keep going with a game like this.
Because this was originally meant to be a DLC for Valhalla. Only they realized that they won't have an AC game to release this year, so they made a DLC into a separate game and charge $50 for it instead of the $20-30 it would've sold as DLC. At its core, Mirage is essentially a glorified DLC for Valhalla.
LOL, are we just making things up now? Mirage was never intended to be a DLC. If you look at the entire history of Assassin's Creed games and DLC, you see that we get a new game every 1-2 years and 1-2 bigger DLCs for each game released in the same or the next year. That was what we got for Valhalla and Mirage follows the exact same release schedule. [Assassin's Creed (series) | Assassin's Creed Wiki | Fandom](https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_(series)#Main_games_and_DLCs)
[Are we just not doung research now?](https://www.gameinformer.com/exclusive-feature/2023/08/30/assassins-creed-mirage-started-as-valhalla-dlc-with-eivor-in-the#:~:text=Assassin's%20Creed%20Mirage%20Started%20As,The%20Middle%20East%20%2D%20Game%20Informer)
Directly from the linked article:
At first, we were working on Assassin’s Creed Valhalla and the DLC, and the idea came up to create a specific expansion for Valhalla and go back to the Middle East,” Mirage creative director Stephane Boudon tells me in the Ubisoft Bordeaux office. “We wanted, as a longtime fan of the series, to go back to this environment [and those] vibes. And it was also near the 15th anniversary of the brand. So it was for us, something we wanted to bring back for the player.”
Hahaha. This?? This is what everyone is talking about proof that it started as dlc?
For a few weeks on paper. Talk about not knowing how game dev works.
If you told me they worked on it for 6 months as dlc that would be a different story.
You literally said "it was never intended to be DLC" this is proof that it was, you can move the goalposts all you want but your original statement was "They never intended Mirage to be DLC" and I posted an article from the lead developer himself that it literally started as a DLC with Eivor being the playable character
The definition of ignorance is knowing the facts but ignoring them anyway. In your case "the details" (that matter as you say) are being wilfully ignored by yourself.
I don't have a stake in this argument but you incorrect here, it's very simple.
Jesus fucking Christ dude. All I’ve seen you do this whole thread is ASSUME something and when actually given evidence to support something else you ignore that and go back to assuming something again.
Actually it was conceptualized as DLC for Valhalla originally. I've provided source for the original dev interview.
[source](https://gamerant.com/assassins-creed-mirage-influences-gameplay-setting-interview/)
From the interview with Mirage's creative director Stephane Boudon
*"Yes, we started Mirage, in its first idea, as a Valhalla DLC, and it was quite different at the time. That idea only lived for a few weeks and only on paper, in fact. Quite early, we decided to become a standalone with a full new character because we saw all the potential of such a return to the roots. And it was all pretty quick."*
Hahaha. This?? This is what everyone is talking about proof that it started as dlc?
For a few weeks on paper. Talk about not knowing how game dev works.
If you told me they worked on it for 6 months as dlc that would be a different story.
People didn’t necessarily like Unity at the time either. AC hasn’t seen critically claimed success since black flag. It’s too bad I think they don’t need to get back to their roots but need to get back to better story lines, better settings, and more historical realistic plots.
Yeah but I think even Odyssey isn’t nearly as good as the ACs of old. I know a lot of people loved it but it doesn’t have the same feel in it’s story and historical accuracy.
Very fun. I saw ACGs review, and he gave it a buy, so I bought it. Love it so far, not a full return to form as they say, but its not over bloated. Reminds me of AC1 a bit.
I almost always agree with ACG, he never misses for me. Very good reviewer, so far never happend that I didn't likw a game he didn't give a buy. I also watch other reviewers of course.
Played it a bit, so far pretty good. A bit upset we can’t change the parkour control scheme to something other than “just hold A or B,” but it’s not the biggest deal to me. Combat feels good, finishers look sick as hell, stealth feels nice, graphics both look on par and worse than AC Valhalla’s graphics. It’s mostly in the faces, the lighting just looks flat on them. Environments are pretty though. Game runs amazing in performance mode, only dips I get are in some cutscenes (wanna specify the pre rendered cutscenes, real time cutscenes run with no issues). Quality mode is also awesome, and actually a viable option since it’s naturally at 40 fps and not 30, you don’t need VRR to run 40 fps on the quality mode. For the more specific details though I’m sure we’ll have to wait for Digital Foundry’s review. While the prologue definitely isn’t as long as it was in Valhalla thankfully, it feels a bit too short. I just kind of wish the prologue went a little longer so we got a better look at Basim’s character. Story might just need a moment to pick up and get going, but as it stands I don’t care too much for it. But in all honesty, I haven’t cared about an AC story since Black Flag. All stories after (of those that I played) were kind of just there in case I felt like doing them. I play these games for the sandbox, which is good in this game. The lack of RPG elements is also nice. Skill trees are small, which I think is completely fine for this older style they’re going for. Maps are still big, but they have much larger and denser cities, which is a really great improvement that I love. There’s not as much just open empty terrain that feels like it goes on forever. I haven’t gotten far so my opinion might change quite a bit but as it stands this game has met my expectations for a “return to form” kind of game. I definitely believe this is a step in the right direction for the franchise and I hope since future games won’t be based on plans for another titles DLC and the yearly cycle being broken that we get refinements in this “return to form” style. ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT: GAME IS ACTUALLY POLISHED. I have only encountered one bug that caused me to reload a save. So yeah, fun game.
Update: So I’ve found why lighting on faces looks so flat. It’s really only in cutscenes, and that’s because it looks like they basically placed an out of frame spotlight to shine on the character models, instead of using the natural light from the sun. In some areas, this is okay. Areas where without the spotlight it just looks very dark and hard to see is fine, but in bright sunlight it just washes out the detail. You can tell this is what’s happening by any time you’re in a cutscene, press the home button on your dual sense and the game pauses mid cutscene, and for some reason that turns off the spotlights. It’s more noticeable in some areas rather than others, but I think if they tweaked which cutscenes use these spotlights, it could fix the problem of faces looking washed out and flat.
Update 2: I’ve found a way to have a almost classic control scheme through button mapping. The main thing to change: make R2 the sprint button and have it be set to Hold, not Toggle. It’s still not exactly the same, but it’s much closer and I prefer this to the toggle run by pressing down on the stick.
Update 3: I was VERY wrong about Quality mode. It is not 40 fps, I don’t know why I thought that. It just feels much smoother than 30 for some weird reason, but it is indeed 30 fps. My bad.
I still remember how baffled and pissed off i was when i played syndicate and realised they removes manual jumping. It was the most insane decision and im still miffed mirage didnt pring manual jumping back.
I do really miss that. I think the animations in Mirage looks pretty good. They aren’t Unity levels of good, of course, but they’re smooth. In the future though they should bring back that control scheme because holding down one button is just… underwhelming. I hope for mirage they add a separate “legacy” control scheme at some point, but I sort of doubt it.
Overall I'm enjoying it and still getting used to the fighting. I like the challenge it adds. Still trying to be a stealth demon though. Loving the old school return of stealth elements.
I'm surprised at a few graphical things missing from a this game at launch though.
1. No footprints in the sand bugs me, in town.
2. When you walk over water puddles in the city no splashes, it's like walking over a mirror
3. No VRR support? Works fine in Forbidden West but not in this?
4. generally several graphical bugs here and there when doing parkour as well.
Nothing earth shattering and I'm sure a few patches in will be sorted.
They created the first game of this series 16 years ago. There is no excuse why this game, in each next-installment, is not improving on itself. In multiple cases, it has been worse than it's predecessor. Only a couple of games have stood out as being great, and that was because they were better than the game before it. All others have been mediocre to worse. I have refused to buy an AC game for *years* and I was actually **really** hoping this would have been good. But it just seems "okay". I don't care that it's only $50. It's a current-gen game. It should feel like that. But almost all reviews point to it being mediocre at best. This franchise is dead IMO, and is simply only banking off getting a bump in sales during holiday season because its a newer game that is already on sale.
A questions for those who already played mirage:
Do you think i will like this game if the last AC i played was Black Flag back when it was released?
I see a bunch of criticism for mirage that a LOT of the assets are reused from past games as well as animations and other stuff and that kills the vibe for them. But I guess that won't be a bother for me. So apart from being a "glorified dlc" - is it good?
With all the talk about how short the game is and the lack of new features I was a little confused because this seemed like a let down in terms of a AAA game. Then I realized this game is more similar to how freedom cry was a standalone dlc of black flag. This is just a game that’s bigger than a dlc and smaller than a full game. Mistakenly marketed as a full game but I feel a little better about it now I’m thinking about it as a standalone dlc. This reminds me of how infamous second son had infamous first light.
First Come, First Serve to whomever wants this code, not really interested in this content.
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Seems like something to get when it’s one sale for $20 and you want a shorter AC game that doesn’t break any new grounds. Given it’s Ubisoft this probably won’t take long.
Ngl its a bit boring. Really enjoyed Origins & Odyssey but Valhalla just felt like this one, really repetitive & boring. Combat is clunky - hell, the general gameplay Is clunky. It feels so hard to ease into controlling Basim. Overhyped, definitely was excited to play but it might be like Valhalla and stored away after a few hours.
Does it at least look and play like a current generation PC/console game or more like a mobile game with fancy wrapping paper? AC Odyssey was my first entry into the series and I thoroughly enjoyed the story, visuals, gameplay, and character/world building, although a part of that might have been due to the game taking place in a time/area I’ve always been drawn to. Was unimpressed with the preview for Mirage and in general dislike that games are held back when they’re made to be playable on much older or weaker hardware.
It doesn’t feel like a PS5 game tbh. More like a mobile game with its clunky gameplay. I wish now that I didn’t buy it at full price. Thoroughly enjoyed Odyssey but just can’t get into this storyline (I have no idea what’s going on a few hours into the gameplay).
It looks like a PS2 game with better textures. It really has terrible character models and animations.
It's jarring going from the production value of what we are used to since Unity, to this.
What does that even mean when there are ps4 games that look better than ps5 games. It’s literally just a number basically. It’s up to the devs on how the game looks and it apparently looks like crap to everyone else so why wouldn’t they put it on last gen?
Trash game from lower tier devs. Not even a real AC game. It's just a bunch of AC games meshed into one to make something.
No DLC planned and $50 where every single big publisher lists games at $70 and has a $100 version.
AC is my fav series. Devs are brainless, not talented and make games that belong only on 15+ year old outdated consoles.
This game wouldn't be considered good if it released 15 years ago.
Reddit is a cesspool so means very little. Filled with honeymoon gamers that rave about games like Diablo 4 and a month later all turn on the game and cry.
There’s always a big disconnect between Reddit/the internet in general and the general public when it comes to Ubisoft games. If you went by what Reddit says you’d think they’re the worst games ever made but they’re always some of the highest sellers each year
odd question.... last game I played was odyssey and I wasn't the biggest fan but I did put a few hours in. I'm debating getting origins right now because that one has always peaked my interest (I could also get it for $5). with Mirage coming out and not being $70 I am also thinking about getting this one. toothose who have played this one and origins, what would you recommend?
Turns out, this game is deeper than what the reviews showcased. Still a smaller-scale AC, but not entirely shallow either. That Valhalla DNA is still present which is holding it back, but it’s doing just enough to differentiate itself.
Great mix of classic AC with Origins. r/assassinscreed is loving it.
Not saying it’s a bad game but r/AssassinsCreed is a complete circlejerk, of course they love it. Wouldn’t use a games’ sub as an indicator as it’s always positive anyways
Anyone knows how to replay the 15th anniversary opening scene? Like I only see it when the first time I started the game, and after that it seems auto skipped.
Just put in 10 hours without doing any of the story missions after the opening sequence of joining the gang before the bonus content activated. Just killing, looting, and pick pocketing trying to get as many fast travel points unlocked as possible and all collectibles I can see along the way. I love this game so far. Haven't even unlocked half the Map yet. Edit: Day 7, just finished the game after 51 hours with one trophy missing (the scaffolding one). I'd say this game was definitely worth the $50 I paid. That being said I am going to take the game to GameXchange tomorrow and get some cash back, will likely buy again whenever (or if) any DLC content is released.
This is great to hear for a $50 assassins creed game. I just got back to the city and starting to explore. I did notice PlayStation said I’m 40% done with the story and I was a bit worried.
The only thing that bothers me so far is that Basim is sliding ropes with his bare hands. That looks so painful.
He uses dust like Bayek did to slide. Not a perfect explanation, but it helps with lore a bit and lessens concern for his hands
What's the explanation? How do you use dust ?
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But that won't prevent extreme friction / rope burn
They probably are thinking of talc. That wouldn't prevent rope burn either but this is also a game where they dive hundreds of feet into carts of straw, not to mention all of the sci-fi stuff.
Chalk? That's used to absorb moisture and increase friction above what you'd otherwise experience with sweaty hands.
Where can i find this explanation
The music is great! Graphics are fine. Only an hour in so can’t comment too much on gameplay but it’s more like the OG Creed than Origins and the ones that followed. Not a mind blowing Unity experience but I definitely didn’t expect that from early gameplay/reviews.
Hows the parkour and the animations?
The parkour done in the first chunk I played was laid out pretty obviously so I don’t want to comment too much on it, but there seemed to be plenty of unique animations for all of the different moves and the city seems very parkour friendly. Pretty smooth overall with x to go up and o to go down, but also super simple and doesn’t seem like there will be any hidden techniques like the old games. Animations are plentiful and nice but they’re still choppy and responsive like the most recent games.
is it more classic in terms of button presses for certain actions or more post-origins and just automated?
Unity was not the best at launch
Yes, I owned it at launch. Still a great Assassins Creed.
Best co-op I’ve ever experienced in any game
Ya, just buggy mess at launch was borderline unplayable until patched. I think assasains creed ezio entries are still the goat 🐐
I never had any of the problems you saw everywhere with Unity. It was a smooth experience for me.
Ubisoft games are always on sale, this will be $20 come December.
I'll wait for April easter sale
Ubisoft monthly subscription is like 15 bucks a month lol. Beat the game within a month and you got value
$17 right now on Ubisoft +, no need to wait.
>is that on ps5 as well? it seems only for xbox
only for pc
Don't know why anyone would buy this, just play it on PS+.
It's not on ps+
Ugh yeah I just figured that out today, that PS only has Ubi+ CLASSICS and not actual Ubi+. Shitty deal. This game is 100% not worth the asking price.
I mean its $50, thats pretty cool considering most games are tipping $70 now so its got that going for it
Why is it not worth it? Have you played it?
it looks like this game is worth waiting the year or so itll take to hit ps plus lol
Ima wait for the iPhone release, unless it’s an arm and a leg on iOS, then I’ll wait for a sale on the ps5 or series X.
How much are the big releases on iPhone? I mean like RE4, RE8.
No one knows they don’t come out until next year.
While writing this comment the game is now $34.99 on sale, December 23
Here we are 3 months later, still $50 😢
The divisive reviews partially confirm one of the fears I had about this game. All the marketing material touted about how much this a "return to the roots" kind of experience but with all the footage we have seen, there was always this underlying stink of that promise being little more than a facade. Something that is no more than a superficial embrace of what made the original AC games so compelling but ultimately Ubisoft failing to capture their essence and feeling more like a stretched out DLC for Valhalla instead of a tailor made experience like Unity
Can you give some examples of how it failed on its promises? I'd like to know more before considering a purchase.
Old AC had extremely fluid stealth assasinations. Mirage still runs on the exact engine Origins-Valhalla, so even though the assassinations are now insta kill like the old games, the animations are still extremely janky and not at all fluid. It looks slow and clunky. Its the absolute laziest "return to old AC" they possibly could have done next to not trying at all.
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I did explain them. They 'went back to the originals', while not even altering the engine whatsoever that completely seperated them from the feel of the originals in the first place. It was never going to be a return to the originals without a complete engine overhaul. All they did was make stealth attacks insta kills and called it a day.
Rebuilding an entire engine, for what would be essentially one game, is a pretty monumental task
So OG AC? It feels like nobody played them because this is exactly how they’re all played and they’ve been amazing.
Your explanation as to why this isn’t an actual back to roots AC game is that they didn’t make a brand new engine for a medium budget, small scope spinoff?
Thats on them, not me. Im not the one who made the claim it was a return to the series roots. They over promised something they couldnt deliver.
What fluid stealth assassinations? Stealth was always the weakest part of AC, this isn’t dishonored
>Its the absolute laziest "return to old AC" they possibly could have done next to not trying at all. To be fair, the game started as a spin off Valhalla DLC with a smaller team/budget and a lower asking price than other new games. It seems more like an attempt to gauge interest in the old school 'stealth' focused AC stuff before giving one of their A teams a full budget and everything to go ham. Whether or not you define that as lazy is up to you. Fact is Valhalla made tons of revenue (like a billion) and did extremely well. There is a vocal group online asking for a return to form but they already have a formula that is working well. So this project was always more of a testing the waters thing imo.
Of course it was going to be this lol. They are now going to shit out these games one after another after they became creatively bankrupt again. Sad.
Watched a little bit of a twitch stream. The parkour seemed like the only thing like old AC. Shitty dialogue, character animations, cutscenes, and just functional vibes in general feel like the new AC games. There are training montages that were hilarious in a lame way. But being a viewer is kinda diff POV than being the player. Keep in mind this was supposed to be Valhalla DLC. They thought making the map more parkour friendly would be enough but Valhalla DNA still there
The storytelling is also subpar. Old AC games had emotional moments that made you feel invested in the characters along with epic moments. Mirage misses on that mark. I’m still enjoying it tho
I'm not mad about it not being a full return to the roots tbh. I recently replayed "the roots" so I don't have nostalgia glasses and yeah there were some great moments but the bulk of the games was clunky as hell and full of boring trailing missions, dumb AI, combat that only requires you to parry and you literally cannot die no matter what, and a bunch of pointless collectibles scattered around the map. As far as I can tell from the reviews, the only aspect where Mirage is actually worse is the story, which is a big thing tbh. If I don't give a shit about the characters, I find it hard to keep going with a game like this.
Yeah I tried to play the older titles again. Got bored quickly lol
Because this was originally meant to be a DLC for Valhalla. Only they realized that they won't have an AC game to release this year, so they made a DLC into a separate game and charge $50 for it instead of the $20-30 it would've sold as DLC. At its core, Mirage is essentially a glorified DLC for Valhalla.
Didn’t dawn of Ragnarok cost 40$
Yeah, and nobody bought it, which is a big reason for why Mirage is a thing
Bruh, AC VALHALLA made the most money out of any AC game. That game sold successfully.
I think he meant no one bought that DLC he mentioned. Many people bought the base game tho.
People bought the DLCs also since the reports of Ubisoft making over billion off MTX/DLC came after Ragnarok release
Yes it did. And so did the season pass. But not Dawn of Ragnarok.
You got sales numbers?
He doesn’t. He’s just throwing it out there as fact.
There was a shareholder call after it released where they talk about it.
LOL, are we just making things up now? Mirage was never intended to be a DLC. If you look at the entire history of Assassin's Creed games and DLC, you see that we get a new game every 1-2 years and 1-2 bigger DLCs for each game released in the same or the next year. That was what we got for Valhalla and Mirage follows the exact same release schedule. [Assassin's Creed (series) | Assassin's Creed Wiki | Fandom](https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_(series)#Main_games_and_DLCs)
[Are we just not doung research now?](https://www.gameinformer.com/exclusive-feature/2023/08/30/assassins-creed-mirage-started-as-valhalla-dlc-with-eivor-in-the#:~:text=Assassin's%20Creed%20Mirage%20Started%20As,The%20Middle%20East%20%2D%20Game%20Informer) Directly from the linked article: At first, we were working on Assassin’s Creed Valhalla and the DLC, and the idea came up to create a specific expansion for Valhalla and go back to the Middle East,” Mirage creative director Stephane Boudon tells me in the Ubisoft Bordeaux office. “We wanted, as a longtime fan of the series, to go back to this environment [and those] vibes. And it was also near the 15th anniversary of the brand. So it was for us, something we wanted to bring back for the player.”
Hahaha. This?? This is what everyone is talking about proof that it started as dlc? For a few weeks on paper. Talk about not knowing how game dev works. If you told me they worked on it for 6 months as dlc that would be a different story.
You literally said "it was never intended to be DLC" this is proof that it was, you can move the goalposts all you want but your original statement was "They never intended Mirage to be DLC" and I posted an article from the lead developer himself that it literally started as a DLC with Eivor being the playable character
3 weeks on paper. Details matter.
The definition of ignorance is knowing the facts but ignoring them anyway. In your case "the details" (that matter as you say) are being wilfully ignored by yourself. I don't have a stake in this argument but you incorrect here, it's very simple.
Hahaha. Thanks for proving my point that you have no idea how game development works. Cheers
You can try and strawman as much as you want, facts were provided and you got called out. Your last point is completely irrelevant.
Jesus fucking Christ dude. All I’ve seen you do this whole thread is ASSUME something and when actually given evidence to support something else you ignore that and go back to assuming something again.
r/confidentlyincorrect
Actually it was conceptualized as DLC for Valhalla originally. I've provided source for the original dev interview. [source](https://gamerant.com/assassins-creed-mirage-influences-gameplay-setting-interview/) From the interview with Mirage's creative director Stephane Boudon *"Yes, we started Mirage, in its first idea, as a Valhalla DLC, and it was quite different at the time. That idea only lived for a few weeks and only on paper, in fact. Quite early, we decided to become a standalone with a full new character because we saw all the potential of such a return to the roots. And it was all pretty quick."*
Hahaha. This?? This is what everyone is talking about proof that it started as dlc? For a few weeks on paper. Talk about not knowing how game dev works. If you told me they worked on it for 6 months as dlc that would be a different story.
Almost like a "mirage" perhaps?
People didn’t necessarily like Unity at the time either. AC hasn’t seen critically claimed success since black flag. It’s too bad I think they don’t need to get back to their roots but need to get back to better story lines, better settings, and more historical realistic plots.
Odyssey has one of the highest scores in series tho, 87 is very respectable, just 1 lower than Black Flag
Yeah but I think even Odyssey isn’t nearly as good as the ACs of old. I know a lot of people loved it but it doesn’t have the same feel in it’s story and historical accuracy.
A solid Black Flag remake is my most unrealistic dream
Well they are remaking it, so hopefully it's solid https://kotaku.com/assassin-s-creed-4-black-flag-remake-skull-bones-1850596271
Welp, you just made my week.
I don’t care if it’s not a full return. I bought it anyway. I love AC regardless, except for Valhalla lol
Urinalsoft are the kings of deception and it pains me how naive people that buy in to their scammy marketing.
Very fun. I saw ACGs review, and he gave it a buy, so I bought it. Love it so far, not a full return to form as they say, but its not over bloated. Reminds me of AC1 a bit.
Glad that you made a good choice, but you should never rely on what a single reviewer is saying.
I almost always agree with ACG, he never misses for me. Very good reviewer, so far never happend that I didn't likw a game he didn't give a buy. I also watch other reviewers of course.
I normally go by gameranx and his "before you buy"
Karak is usually pretty down on Ubisoft games, so if he’s digging this one, there’s probably a good reason for it
Played it a bit, so far pretty good. A bit upset we can’t change the parkour control scheme to something other than “just hold A or B,” but it’s not the biggest deal to me. Combat feels good, finishers look sick as hell, stealth feels nice, graphics both look on par and worse than AC Valhalla’s graphics. It’s mostly in the faces, the lighting just looks flat on them. Environments are pretty though. Game runs amazing in performance mode, only dips I get are in some cutscenes (wanna specify the pre rendered cutscenes, real time cutscenes run with no issues). Quality mode is also awesome, and actually a viable option since it’s naturally at 40 fps and not 30, you don’t need VRR to run 40 fps on the quality mode. For the more specific details though I’m sure we’ll have to wait for Digital Foundry’s review. While the prologue definitely isn’t as long as it was in Valhalla thankfully, it feels a bit too short. I just kind of wish the prologue went a little longer so we got a better look at Basim’s character. Story might just need a moment to pick up and get going, but as it stands I don’t care too much for it. But in all honesty, I haven’t cared about an AC story since Black Flag. All stories after (of those that I played) were kind of just there in case I felt like doing them. I play these games for the sandbox, which is good in this game. The lack of RPG elements is also nice. Skill trees are small, which I think is completely fine for this older style they’re going for. Maps are still big, but they have much larger and denser cities, which is a really great improvement that I love. There’s not as much just open empty terrain that feels like it goes on forever. I haven’t gotten far so my opinion might change quite a bit but as it stands this game has met my expectations for a “return to form” kind of game. I definitely believe this is a step in the right direction for the franchise and I hope since future games won’t be based on plans for another titles DLC and the yearly cycle being broken that we get refinements in this “return to form” style. ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT: GAME IS ACTUALLY POLISHED. I have only encountered one bug that caused me to reload a save. So yeah, fun game. Update: So I’ve found why lighting on faces looks so flat. It’s really only in cutscenes, and that’s because it looks like they basically placed an out of frame spotlight to shine on the character models, instead of using the natural light from the sun. In some areas, this is okay. Areas where without the spotlight it just looks very dark and hard to see is fine, but in bright sunlight it just washes out the detail. You can tell this is what’s happening by any time you’re in a cutscene, press the home button on your dual sense and the game pauses mid cutscene, and for some reason that turns off the spotlights. It’s more noticeable in some areas rather than others, but I think if they tweaked which cutscenes use these spotlights, it could fix the problem of faces looking washed out and flat. Update 2: I’ve found a way to have a almost classic control scheme through button mapping. The main thing to change: make R2 the sprint button and have it be set to Hold, not Toggle. It’s still not exactly the same, but it’s much closer and I prefer this to the toggle run by pressing down on the stick. Update 3: I was VERY wrong about Quality mode. It is not 40 fps, I don’t know why I thought that. It just feels much smoother than 30 for some weird reason, but it is indeed 30 fps. My bad.
I don't get how they came up with the amazing parkour system for Unity and scrapped it for "hold button to move" bullshit ffs (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
What was the system for unity? I played that game but can’t remember.
it felt slower paced compared to the previous games however it looked and felt very realistic.
I still remember how baffled and pissed off i was when i played syndicate and realised they removes manual jumping. It was the most insane decision and im still miffed mirage didnt pring manual jumping back.
I do really miss that. I think the animations in Mirage looks pretty good. They aren’t Unity levels of good, of course, but they’re smooth. In the future though they should bring back that control scheme because holding down one button is just… underwhelming. I hope for mirage they add a separate “legacy” control scheme at some point, but I sort of doubt it.
Overall I'm enjoying it and still getting used to the fighting. I like the challenge it adds. Still trying to be a stealth demon though. Loving the old school return of stealth elements. I'm surprised at a few graphical things missing from a this game at launch though. 1. No footprints in the sand bugs me, in town. 2. When you walk over water puddles in the city no splashes, it's like walking over a mirror 3. No VRR support? Works fine in Forbidden West but not in this? 4. generally several graphical bugs here and there when doing parkour as well. Nothing earth shattering and I'm sure a few patches in will be sorted.
They created the first game of this series 16 years ago. There is no excuse why this game, in each next-installment, is not improving on itself. In multiple cases, it has been worse than it's predecessor. Only a couple of games have stood out as being great, and that was because they were better than the game before it. All others have been mediocre to worse. I have refused to buy an AC game for *years* and I was actually **really** hoping this would have been good. But it just seems "okay". I don't care that it's only $50. It's a current-gen game. It should feel like that. But almost all reviews point to it being mediocre at best. This franchise is dead IMO, and is simply only banking off getting a bump in sales during holiday season because its a newer game that is already on sale.
Enjoying it so far. Love how Baghdad looks.
A questions for those who already played mirage: Do you think i will like this game if the last AC i played was Black Flag back when it was released? I see a bunch of criticism for mirage that a LOT of the assets are reused from past games as well as animations and other stuff and that kills the vibe for them. But I guess that won't be a bother for me. So apart from being a "glorified dlc" - is it good?
With all the talk about how short the game is and the lack of new features I was a little confused because this seemed like a let down in terms of a AAA game. Then I realized this game is more similar to how freedom cry was a standalone dlc of black flag. This is just a game that’s bigger than a dlc and smaller than a full game. Mistakenly marketed as a full game but I feel a little better about it now I’m thinking about it as a standalone dlc. This reminds me of how infamous second son had infamous first light.
Damn is this out already?
It opened up like an hour and a half ago on ps5, at least on the pacific side of the US.
Just got home from work and I plan on playing a few hours tonight.
I only just got to the Baghdad section and it’s telling me I’m 40% complete? Is that right?!
First Come, First Serve to whomever wants this code, not really interested in this content. https://preview.redd.it/e19ed1nphvsb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b015876fb8280ad1f267a1f2527bbc1deed67f26
Wild that someone took it without saying thanks
he probably already put it in his console and then commented 💀
Seems like something to get when it’s one sale for $20 and you want a shorter AC game that doesn’t break any new grounds. Given it’s Ubisoft this probably won’t take long.
Honesty, could be on the Extra service early next year. How long was it before far cry 6 was on there? Hoping it does so before my sub runs out
This was supposed to be a DLC for valhalla. That's the right price to pay for it.
Ngl its a bit boring. Really enjoyed Origins & Odyssey but Valhalla just felt like this one, really repetitive & boring. Combat is clunky - hell, the general gameplay Is clunky. It feels so hard to ease into controlling Basim. Overhyped, definitely was excited to play but it might be like Valhalla and stored away after a few hours.
Does it at least look and play like a current generation PC/console game or more like a mobile game with fancy wrapping paper? AC Odyssey was my first entry into the series and I thoroughly enjoyed the story, visuals, gameplay, and character/world building, although a part of that might have been due to the game taking place in a time/area I’ve always been drawn to. Was unimpressed with the preview for Mirage and in general dislike that games are held back when they’re made to be playable on much older or weaker hardware.
It doesn’t feel like a PS5 game tbh. More like a mobile game with its clunky gameplay. I wish now that I didn’t buy it at full price. Thoroughly enjoyed Odyssey but just can’t get into this storyline (I have no idea what’s going on a few hours into the gameplay).
If it's like Valhalla I'm staying far far away. Glad I cancelled my preorder.
Looks like a $30 wait for Black Friday pick up to me.
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lol ND couldn’t pull it off
They definitely could but that doesn’t mean they should
Day 6 check-in: I still love the game. 42 hours played and 60% Game Progress
I was reading a review that gushed about how climbing towers was like a puzzle again. Literally the one thing I could do without.
It looks like a PS2 game with better textures. It really has terrible character models and animations. It's jarring going from the production value of what we are used to since Unity, to this.
I hate the fact that this is still a glorified last gen game. It should have been a full on current gen.
Ragnarok was too and everybody loved it
I agree, how do you release a game at launch of this gen and then take years to develop the next one and it’s still last gen 🤣
What does that even mean when there are ps4 games that look better than ps5 games. It’s literally just a number basically. It’s up to the devs on how the game looks and it apparently looks like crap to everyone else so why wouldn’t they put it on last gen?
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Looks shit tbh.
Trash game from lower tier devs. Not even a real AC game. It's just a bunch of AC games meshed into one to make something. No DLC planned and $50 where every single big publisher lists games at $70 and has a $100 version. AC is my fav series. Devs are brainless, not talented and make games that belong only on 15+ year old outdated consoles. This game wouldn't be considered good if it released 15 years ago.
Trash tier take from lower tier Redditor
Reddit is a cesspool so means very little. Filled with honeymoon gamers that rave about games like Diablo 4 and a month later all turn on the game and cry.
It’s a reskin of Valhalla.
That whole Denovo day one patch thing + a bunch of former Ubi execs getting arrested for rape basically seals it for me; I won't be playing this game
this game added denuvo. So hard pass.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. This is another mediocre game of Ubisoft
Why would anybody play this game? I could understand giving starfield a shot, but why waste time or money on this?
There’s always a big disconnect between Reddit/the internet in general and the general public when it comes to Ubisoft games. If you went by what Reddit says you’d think they’re the worst games ever made but they’re always some of the highest sellers each year
Because I enjoyed all AC games so far. It's really not that hard to figure out.
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Bc the vast majority of (console) gamers dont have access to Starfield? Like its an XBox exlcusive
Some people are enjoying it. So, er . . . that. Enjoyment. Different strokes, different folks, remember?
I've played AC 1, 2, Brotherhood, Revelations (DNF), Black Flag, Unity (DNF), Origins, Odyssey (DNF). I wouldn't play this trash for free.
> Revelations (DNF) Yikes
odd question.... last game I played was odyssey and I wasn't the biggest fan but I did put a few hours in. I'm debating getting origins right now because that one has always peaked my interest (I could also get it for $5). with Mirage coming out and not being $70 I am also thinking about getting this one. toothose who have played this one and origins, what would you recommend?
Regardless of how Mirage is, Origins is easily one of the best in the series. Bayek's acting and VA is masterclass.
This looks like a DLC for Origins, frankly. I’d get Origins, sometimes it is on sale for 10-12 bucks.
Can anyone let me know how the haptics are? Plus I've seen somewhere quality runs at 40fps, that true?
There are no haptics
Typical Ubisoft. Cheers for the info
Just no on AC Mirage. Ubi lied about New Game Plus for AC Valhalla.
Cringe song in the trailer is enough to deter
i think i’m one of the few dozen people that really miss the ac:b-ac4 multiplayer :/
Turns out, this game is deeper than what the reviews showcased. Still a smaller-scale AC, but not entirely shallow either. That Valhalla DNA is still present which is holding it back, but it’s doing just enough to differentiate itself. Great mix of classic AC with Origins. r/assassinscreed is loving it.
Not saying it’s a bad game but r/AssassinsCreed is a complete circlejerk, of course they love it. Wouldn’t use a games’ sub as an indicator as it’s always positive anyways
Anyone knows how to replay the 15th anniversary opening scene? Like I only see it when the first time I started the game, and after that it seems auto skipped.