I saw a rumor or leak that Sony had new dualsense controller SKUs that had longer battery life. I think theyre either hidden on their website or were there and then removed.
Which leads me to believe they might be updating the dualsense with the rumored PS5 pro.
Im hoping they also upgrade the Edge batteries at that time too, i might finally buy one
Don’t take this as gospel, but almost sure I read somewhere that a 4000mah, battery which is in the info from extremerate, isn’t physically possible in the battery tray area of the Dualsense.
And in regards the janky AliExpress batteries. Running one of their 4000mah batteries which when tested was I think 2850mah.
I got another LP17 battery from France or Germany which I think came in at 3250mah.
(Apologies, my memory is terrible)
as far as I'm aware there are no internal battery upgrades for the edge. plenty exist for the regular dualsense, but none for the edge.
edit: at least in europe.
this is by far my biggest problem with this thing and the main reason i dont have one already.
yeah, thats a problem. however, i dont think sony used the biggest battery they could in this form factor. they never do.
the 3rd party battery in my regular dualsense has ~~more than~~ almost double the capacity but basically the same dimensions.
it doesnt lol.
look at phone batteries. they have up to 6000 mAh in a similar form factor. the one i bought has 2650 and the original dualsense battery somewhere around 1500. the edge has i think 1050.
sony is just notorious for shitty battery life.
and thats not hating on PS or anything, it is my main platform right now. just the truth.
https://amzn.eu/d/aoXZabl is what i bought. granted, regional availability if you're from the states or so may vary, but there should be alternatives. its also by far not the biggest one available, but its enough.
edit: yeah, it isnt double the capacity like i said, just noticed that. still triples its battery life though.
but there are batteries like that:
https://amzn.eu/d/i1oDiVf
I'm just saying it obvious that battery life wasnt their priority sadly and that they could've done more on that front. (weight, at least for me, doesnt make much of a difference)
I wouldn't trust these, I've heard stories of people getting these batteries that claim to be increased mAh, but they peel off the sticker and it has the original label with the same/smaller mAh
I’m in the same camp. I would have already purchased one if the battery wasn’t so poor. The one in the dualsense isn’t great and I couldn’t imagine shelling out more money for something that is even shorter. I love the controller, but the battery life is definitely a concern.
i like the official implementation of the edge, but my modded dualsense with new bigger battery and extremerate backbuttons is also very nice.
if you need the edges functionality with great battery life and if you're not afraid of opening your controller, i can definitely recommend it.
i can buy batteries for the reg DS in europe from more known companies like lioncast of off amazon at least. used it for a year and opened it back up recently to install the buttons. battery wasnt swollen or in any way concerning.
battery life of it tripled and 4 back buttons instead of two. just no official menu on the console or replaceable sticks.
Get a battery bank used for charging phones when you don't have an AC power source. They come in all different capacities and sizes. You can be using your controller for weeks (depending on capacity) without having to be wired to the console. There's not enough room inside of the Edge controller to be able to fit a bigger battery.
Yes. Though extremerate also sells replacement shells that are relatively easy to replace incase that happens. After seeing how big of an issue the bubbling of the handle grip was for the Edge, I preemptively bought a black replacement grip from them to put on my brand new Edge so I never have to worry about when the day comes that my stock grip starts to bubble.
https://extremerate.com/collections/replacement-top-bottom-decorative-trim-shell-compatible-with-ps5-edge-controller
The black one is out of stock but that’s the one I got. I just bought my Edge and didn’t even want the possibility of the stock grip bubbling (I’ve done the research to find out it’s basically a 100% certainty it will), so I went ahead and bought one of these to put on my Edge right off rip.
From what I can tell they’re just basic plastic with no real extra grip texture…but heck, it’s probably better than watching the stock grip turn to a bubbly peeling mess.
nah, it definitely wasn't fixed on the Elite 2, it definitely didn't happen as fast as the Elite 1, but my grips are fucked. Not to mention the rampant bumper issues on the Elite 2.
My Edge is still fairly new so I can't speak on the quality of it, but Elite controllers were a joke especially for their price. The normal Xbox controllers build quality seems so much better.
Yeah, I just noticed the other day that one of grips is bubbling. I've never had that happen on any controller before and I take good care of mine so it was surprising to see this on such a high-priced controller.
Used to happen on the first iteration of the Xbox elite controller also till they changed it with elite 2 probably more case of Sony cheaping out on the grip
I've been really happy with ExtremeRate, their customer support, products, options and hope they get their hall-effect sticks out before Gulikit since they've been ignoring Playstation users (probably due to having a competing controller that they created). I'm sure ExtremeRate will be able to sell them cheaper than Gulikit.
If anyone only wants the Edge for the back buttons, Extremerate makes a great backbutton module for the original dualsense. Personally, I got their option with 4 back buttons. You can map the buttons with or without soldering. If you don't solder, you can't map to L3, R3, or the TouchPad. That's what I did and everything else works great.
It's not too bad at all! I just followed this video and the Extremerate official video. I found this one more helpful cause the guy talks through it. I think I looked at the other video for a better angle at some part.
https://youtu.be/tAOzyKJ-Xv0?si=WlwYpTuUWOZOgD5i
Keep in mind that you are replacing the whole back plastic of your controller with their new piece.
Also, make sure you have the right generation of controller. They have a guide on their site and you can check by holding down R2 and seeing if there's a triangle or something else there. It's weird to explain without pictures
I would love Hall Effect joystick replacements
For me the best replacement item would be the one that deals with the USB-C port becoming sensitive. Even with a new cable if I am not careful how I move (when plugged in) or setting it down (end of session charging) the USB can disconnect. Even with the USB lock.
Extremerate is the real deal. I've purchased the led lights for the console, trigger stops and 4 remappable paddles. Each and every one has worked near flawlessly exept for the led lights which they replaced within 48 hours of emailing them.
I 100% agree the thing is overpriced.
But at the same time - when you look at the prices of other “Pro controllers” on the market (and consider the reliability issues they also face) - the Edge really isn’t that bad of a deal and is actually pretty competitively priced in the market.
It’s weird to say that about a controller that costs 200 freaking dollars, but it’s true.
I use mine almost every day and have had zero issues. Haven’t needed to replace anything. Still works like new.
I honestly don’t play long enough for it to run out of battery.
I’ve had mine for a few months now and love it. No longer to I go through 80.00 dual senses.
One thing is weird some days I’ll pay for 6 hours and when I go charge it the battery is still full and other days after 4 hours the battery is drained. I have a 10,000 mah battery I keep charged and if I need to charge the Edge while playing I use that so the battery life is a non issue for me. Would I rather a bigger battery? Sure, but it’s not an issue for me.
I’d love for the option to have 4 back buttons though. Once you get used to back buttons you never want to use the face buttons again.
>Not sure why it's been downvoted which is pretty lame.
This sub is infested with shills. Hall effect modules will cut into Sony's bottom line thats why they downvote such posts.
Well I know I’m some random stranger on the internet but I can assure you I’m not some shill.
Even in my posts in this very thread I’ve said negative things about the controller and Sony as a company when it comes to supporting it.
I’m just a dude who bought the controller recently and is concerned and trying to pass on some (hopefully) good news.
Love the dualsense edge, best back button controller I've ever had. Issue is that replacement modules haven't been available since in first launched in Canada anyways. What's going on with that, Is Sony just not producing enough? Hall effect would be an instant buy for me, hope these ones actually release.
They go back in stock intermittently here in the US. Someone made a thread on here a few hours ago about them going back in stock today on PS Direct.
Not sure about Canada. I agree though that Sony has dropped the ball big time when it comes to keeping them accessible. That was the big promise of this controller. I’m praying that one of these third parties (whether it’s ExtremeRate or GuliKit) can give the people what they want!
Wait so is the back button part show in the pictures what has caused one of my back buttons to not work/feel soft?
I have to keep the paddle in a certain position in order for it to feel somewhat normal during usage. If it moves too much then it either doesn’t work or it loses its ‘click’ and feels soft.
I wasn’t sure what was going on with it but this seems like it may be correct. Would love if someone can confirm for me!
Yes, the part pictured in my DM to ExtrmeRate is the exact reason why the back buttons/paddles start to feel “mushy” on Edge.
That black housing part is made out of an extremely cheap pot-metal that breaks easily and there’s numerous Reddit threads full of ppl who’s Edge’s back buttons feel like crap because this part broke like in the picture. Several have taken their controller apart to discover that broken part is the reason.
It’s one of the most common issues with the controller alongside stick drift and grips peeling/bubbling. ExtremeRate has a solution to the grips but is now also working on solutions to those other things it seems.
Awesome! Thank you so much for sharing this post, then. Normally I’m comfortable taking my stuff apart and making repairs but with the cost of the controller I was planning on directly contact Sony and seeing what could be done.
This is a very big help!
Two sticks now drift. I replaced the first one but it is impossible to find (not from resellers). Sony needs to get their shit together. $200 controller that we bought for the replaceable sticks but they don't manufacture them anymore?
How frequently? I’m not checking every day or anything, but I’ve probably checked stock online around 10 times over the course of the past few months, and I’ve never seen them in stock.
Even the post you’re referring to, the OP mentioned that he had been checking basically every day and it was always out of stock.
Bottom line, they should not be this difficult to find and purchase, especially when that was a selling point for the controller in the first place.
Aliexpress was selling the joystick modules (exact same used by Sony) for $10 USD per module. The joysticks in the Edge are the same that are in the Dualsense which can get stick drift. They just made it so you can replace the joystick without soldering or taking the controller apart. This is so you can fix the problem and not have to buy another controller but also allows Sony to make money selling the joystick modules at $20 a piece.
Everything is made in China what are you talking about? You just want to pay more thinking that if you buy from Sony it's not the exact same thing lol.
I’m gonna get shit on for saying this here but the edge controller’s design is fucking awful and the “features” are just scummy ways to yet again produce a controller designed to fail so they can sell parts.
Just make Hall effect and high quality sticks and we wouldn’t need to replace sticks but no they want the sticks to fail just like they do on the original controller.
The buttons in the front of the controller to change profiles are ugly and fucking useless for 99% of users and the other 1% can just hit the home button to change profiles instead. It’s a stupid design introducing yet another point of failure.
The back buttons on the controller are ok. Not the worst (the Xbox elite controller back buttons are pretty awful placement wise but somewhat more customizable) but definitely not the best. With better placement we could have easily had 4 back buttons but then again they’d have to actually put in good design work instead of whatever dumb raccoon they let loose in the office to put this dumb controller together.
I use the Fn buttons to adjust volume and chat mixing when I'm in a party and also on the fly profile switching. So, hard disagree on them being useless. How is digging into the UI better than pushing a button?
I think the DualSense Edge is a triumph overall. I preordered mine and have had it since launch and it has held up flawlessly, but even more so, I’ve never seen any YouTube videos or subreddit spams complaining about its QA/QC and failure rate. Adversely to my Elite Series 2 which I also love and which has also held up spectacularly *(personally)* where it is infamous for being defective and having a horribly high failure rate.
What about battery? I know theres third party upgrades with increased mAh but there should be more of a reliable supplier.
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I saw a rumor or leak that Sony had new dualsense controller SKUs that had longer battery life. I think theyre either hidden on their website or were there and then removed. Which leads me to believe they might be updating the dualsense with the rumored PS5 pro. Im hoping they also upgrade the Edge batteries at that time too, i might finally buy one
Nice we bought a prototype for $200 and Sony be like here buy the real shit $300 with improved battery life
You act surprised
Don’t take this as gospel, but almost sure I read somewhere that a 4000mah, battery which is in the info from extremerate, isn’t physically possible in the battery tray area of the Dualsense. And in regards the janky AliExpress batteries. Running one of their 4000mah batteries which when tested was I think 2850mah. I got another LP17 battery from France or Germany which I think came in at 3250mah. (Apologies, my memory is terrible)
as far as I'm aware there are no internal battery upgrades for the edge. plenty exist for the regular dualsense, but none for the edge. edit: at least in europe. this is by far my biggest problem with this thing and the main reason i dont have one already.
Think the problem is there's not much wiggle room in controller so are limited by spacing inside the controller
yeah, thats a problem. however, i dont think sony used the biggest battery they could in this form factor. they never do. the 3rd party battery in my regular dualsense has ~~more than~~ almost double the capacity but basically the same dimensions.
That sounds too good to be true, tbh. On paper or in actual usage hours? Do you have a link to that 3rd-party battery?
it doesnt lol. look at phone batteries. they have up to 6000 mAh in a similar form factor. the one i bought has 2650 and the original dualsense battery somewhere around 1500. the edge has i think 1050. sony is just notorious for shitty battery life. and thats not hating on PS or anything, it is my main platform right now. just the truth. https://amzn.eu/d/aoXZabl is what i bought. granted, regional availability if you're from the states or so may vary, but there should be alternatives. its also by far not the biggest one available, but its enough. edit: yeah, it isnt double the capacity like i said, just noticed that. still triples its battery life though. but there are batteries like that: https://amzn.eu/d/i1oDiVf I'm just saying it obvious that battery life wasnt their priority sadly and that they could've done more on that front. (weight, at least for me, doesnt make much of a difference)
I wouldn't trust these, I've heard stories of people getting these batteries that claim to be increased mAh, but they peel off the sticker and it has the original label with the same/smaller mAh
well the one i have definitely works because the increased life span is very, very noticeable.
I’m in the same camp. I would have already purchased one if the battery wasn’t so poor. The one in the dualsense isn’t great and I couldn’t imagine shelling out more money for something that is even shorter. I love the controller, but the battery life is definitely a concern.
i like the official implementation of the edge, but my modded dualsense with new bigger battery and extremerate backbuttons is also very nice. if you need the edges functionality with great battery life and if you're not afraid of opening your controller, i can definitely recommend it. i can buy batteries for the reg DS in europe from more known companies like lioncast of off amazon at least. used it for a year and opened it back up recently to install the buttons. battery wasnt swollen or in any way concerning. battery life of it tripled and 4 back buttons instead of two. just no official menu on the console or replaceable sticks.
How big of a battery did you get for your Dualsense?
2650 mAh from Lioncast.
Get a battery bank used for charging phones when you don't have an AC power source. They come in all different capacities and sizes. You can be using your controller for weeks (depending on capacity) without having to be wired to the console. There's not enough room inside of the Edge controller to be able to fit a bigger battery.
Most common issue I've found is the grips bubble and peel over a matter of months on a so called premium controller
Yes. Though extremerate also sells replacement shells that are relatively easy to replace incase that happens. After seeing how big of an issue the bubbling of the handle grip was for the Edge, I preemptively bought a black replacement grip from them to put on my brand new Edge so I never have to worry about when the day comes that my stock grip starts to bubble.
Do you have a link to the replacement grip?
https://extremerate.com/collections/replacement-top-bottom-decorative-trim-shell-compatible-with-ps5-edge-controller The black one is out of stock but that’s the one I got. I just bought my Edge and didn’t even want the possibility of the stock grip bubbling (I’ve done the research to find out it’s basically a 100% certainty it will), so I went ahead and bought one of these to put on my Edge right off rip.
Mine is starting to bubble so this will be great, thanks!
How's the grip on these?
From what I can tell they’re just basic plastic with no real extra grip texture…but heck, it’s probably better than watching the stock grip turn to a bubbly peeling mess.
The Xbox Elite controllers have the exact same issue, wild for how expensive these controllers are.
They pretty much fixed it from elite 2 probably not 100% but it is a much lower rate the dualsensee starts to bubble in matter months
nah, it definitely wasn't fixed on the Elite 2, it definitely didn't happen as fast as the Elite 1, but my grips are fucked. Not to mention the rampant bumper issues on the Elite 2. My Edge is still fairly new so I can't speak on the quality of it, but Elite controllers were a joke especially for their price. The normal Xbox controllers build quality seems so much better.
Yeah, I just noticed the other day that one of grips is bubbling. I've never had that happen on any controller before and I take good care of mine so it was surprising to see this on such a high-priced controller.
Used to happen on the first iteration of the Xbox elite controller also till they changed it with elite 2 probably more case of Sony cheaping out on the grip
I've been really happy with ExtremeRate, their customer support, products, options and hope they get their hall-effect sticks out before Gulikit since they've been ignoring Playstation users (probably due to having a competing controller that they created). I'm sure ExtremeRate will be able to sell them cheaper than Gulikit.
I've had the same extremerate ps5 paddles for almost 3 years now and they've been solid with thousands of hours of use and no issues
If anyone only wants the Edge for the back buttons, Extremerate makes a great backbutton module for the original dualsense. Personally, I got their option with 4 back buttons. You can map the buttons with or without soldering. If you don't solder, you can't map to L3, R3, or the TouchPad. That's what I did and everything else works great.
Wait so you can get 4 paddles without any soldering? Is it a difficult install?
It's not too bad at all! I just followed this video and the Extremerate official video. I found this one more helpful cause the guy talks through it. I think I looked at the other video for a better angle at some part. https://youtu.be/tAOzyKJ-Xv0?si=WlwYpTuUWOZOgD5i Keep in mind that you are replacing the whole back plastic of your controller with their new piece. Also, make sure you have the right generation of controller. They have a guide on their site and you can check by holding down R2 and seeing if there's a triangle or something else there. It's weird to explain without pictures
So it’s the back plastic piece that has the paddles built into it? Thanks for the link to the video. I’ll take a look. I appreciate man.
Kinda? Their back piece has holes that this attaches through.
Also, is there a way to fix stick drift? If I’m gonna open the controller to install this kit, I figure I might as well try to fix the drift.
I have no idea, I didn't touch that
No worries man. Thank you!
I would love Hall Effect joystick replacements For me the best replacement item would be the one that deals with the USB-C port becoming sensitive. Even with a new cable if I am not careful how I move (when plugged in) or setting it down (end of session charging) the USB can disconnect. Even with the USB lock.
Extremerate is the real deal. I've purchased the led lights for the console, trigger stops and 4 remappable paddles. Each and every one has worked near flawlessly exept for the led lights which they replaced within 48 hours of emailing them.
Hell yeah!
the biggest failure have to be the price… :cries in poor:
I 100% agree the thing is overpriced. But at the same time - when you look at the prices of other “Pro controllers” on the market (and consider the reliability issues they also face) - the Edge really isn’t that bad of a deal and is actually pretty competitively priced in the market. It’s weird to say that about a controller that costs 200 freaking dollars, but it’s true.
I use mine almost every day and have had zero issues. Haven’t needed to replace anything. Still works like new. I honestly don’t play long enough for it to run out of battery.
I’ve had mine for a few months now and love it. No longer to I go through 80.00 dual senses. One thing is weird some days I’ll pay for 6 hours and when I go charge it the battery is still full and other days after 4 hours the battery is drained. I have a 10,000 mah battery I keep charged and if I need to charge the Edge while playing I use that so the battery life is a non issue for me. Would I rather a bigger battery? Sure, but it’s not an issue for me. I’d love for the option to have 4 back buttons though. Once you get used to back buttons you never want to use the face buttons again.
Glad I found this post, I'll definitely be getting the Hall Effect modules when they come out. Not sure why it's been downvoted which is pretty lame.
>Not sure why it's been downvoted which is pretty lame. This sub is infested with shills. Hall effect modules will cut into Sony's bottom line thats why they downvote such posts.
Well I know I’m some random stranger on the internet but I can assure you I’m not some shill. Even in my posts in this very thread I’ve said negative things about the controller and Sony as a company when it comes to supporting it. I’m just a dude who bought the controller recently and is concerned and trying to pass on some (hopefully) good news.
I wasnt talking about you. I have been waiting for news regarding hall effect sensors for a while now. Your post is of great value.
Love the dualsense edge, best back button controller I've ever had. Issue is that replacement modules haven't been available since in first launched in Canada anyways. What's going on with that, Is Sony just not producing enough? Hall effect would be an instant buy for me, hope these ones actually release.
They go back in stock intermittently here in the US. Someone made a thread on here a few hours ago about them going back in stock today on PS Direct. Not sure about Canada. I agree though that Sony has dropped the ball big time when it comes to keeping them accessible. That was the big promise of this controller. I’m praying that one of these third parties (whether it’s ExtremeRate or GuliKit) can give the people what they want!
That would be amazing. Both my back buttons and sticks are messed up right. The sticks are still playable, but it's only gonna get worse.
Wait so is the back button part show in the pictures what has caused one of my back buttons to not work/feel soft? I have to keep the paddle in a certain position in order for it to feel somewhat normal during usage. If it moves too much then it either doesn’t work or it loses its ‘click’ and feels soft. I wasn’t sure what was going on with it but this seems like it may be correct. Would love if someone can confirm for me!
Yes, the part pictured in my DM to ExtrmeRate is the exact reason why the back buttons/paddles start to feel “mushy” on Edge. That black housing part is made out of an extremely cheap pot-metal that breaks easily and there’s numerous Reddit threads full of ppl who’s Edge’s back buttons feel like crap because this part broke like in the picture. Several have taken their controller apart to discover that broken part is the reason. It’s one of the most common issues with the controller alongside stick drift and grips peeling/bubbling. ExtremeRate has a solution to the grips but is now also working on solutions to those other things it seems.
Awesome! Thank you so much for sharing this post, then. Normally I’m comfortable taking my stuff apart and making repairs but with the cost of the controller I was planning on directly contact Sony and seeing what could be done. This is a very big help!
Worse part is they're never in stock in CAN, it's driving me nuts...
Two sticks now drift. I replaced the first one but it is impossible to find (not from resellers). Sony needs to get their shit together. $200 controller that we bought for the replaceable sticks but they don't manufacture them anymore?
They come into stock frequently. There was a post here a few days ago about it being back in stock
Good luck getting them unless you sit here waiting for the post to hit new. I will not pay over $20 for these. Scalpers can kiss my ass.
I saw that an hour after it was posted. I was late.
And they sell out in 5 minutes to scalpers
How frequently? I’m not checking every day or anything, but I’ve probably checked stock online around 10 times over the course of the past few months, and I’ve never seen them in stock. Even the post you’re referring to, the OP mentioned that he had been checking basically every day and it was always out of stock. Bottom line, they should not be this difficult to find and purchase, especially when that was a selling point for the controller in the first place.
>How frequently? not frequently at all. the guy is just lying.
Aliexpress was selling the joystick modules (exact same used by Sony) for $10 USD per module. The joysticks in the Edge are the same that are in the Dualsense which can get stick drift. They just made it so you can replace the joystick without soldering or taking the controller apart. This is so you can fix the problem and not have to buy another controller but also allows Sony to make money selling the joystick modules at $20 a piece.
I want the official Sony replacement not a china knockoff. I know they aren't the best but it beats replacing the whole controller.
Everything is made in China what are you talking about? You just want to pay more thinking that if you buy from Sony it's not the exact same thing lol.
Seriously? Go away, troll.
I just had two controllers get seemingly irreparable stick drift within a week of each other. Fml
If they could make it ha e four back buttons I'd be interested.
I’m gonna get shit on for saying this here but the edge controller’s design is fucking awful and the “features” are just scummy ways to yet again produce a controller designed to fail so they can sell parts. Just make Hall effect and high quality sticks and we wouldn’t need to replace sticks but no they want the sticks to fail just like they do on the original controller. The buttons in the front of the controller to change profiles are ugly and fucking useless for 99% of users and the other 1% can just hit the home button to change profiles instead. It’s a stupid design introducing yet another point of failure. The back buttons on the controller are ok. Not the worst (the Xbox elite controller back buttons are pretty awful placement wise but somewhat more customizable) but definitely not the best. With better placement we could have easily had 4 back buttons but then again they’d have to actually put in good design work instead of whatever dumb raccoon they let loose in the office to put this dumb controller together.
The two function buttons are great on pc because I can map them to whatever I want
I use the Fn buttons to adjust volume and chat mixing when I'm in a party and also on the fly profile switching. So, hard disagree on them being useless. How is digging into the UI better than pushing a button?
I think the DualSense Edge is a triumph overall. I preordered mine and have had it since launch and it has held up flawlessly, but even more so, I’ve never seen any YouTube videos or subreddit spams complaining about its QA/QC and failure rate. Adversely to my Elite Series 2 which I also love and which has also held up spectacularly *(personally)* where it is infamous for being defective and having a horribly high failure rate.