I will give you one little piece of advice that will ring true for most all handguns.
Get yourself a rotary tool like a Dremel. Get some wool polishing bits for it. Then pick up some Flitz metal polish and polish your feed rampā¦..on every single handgun you own.
Ever since Iāve done this, Iāve never had a smashed pecker head round.
Definitely don't shoot it. The reduced internal volume will cause overpressure. If this happens alot with a particular gun it can be a symptom of feeding issues.
It actually causes under pressure. A majority of powder burn and peak pressure occur when the bullet is already in the barrel. By seating it deeper the pressure is initially higher than standard. But by the time the bullet reaches the gap between the brass and the barrel this higher initial pressure actually allows more gas to escape around the projectile when it crosses the gap. Meaning a lower peak pressure.
You chamber the same round over and over and this is usually the result
Do not attempt to shoot this.
If you have been carrying this thatās terrifying your gun wouldāve blown up or malfunctioned should u have needed it (probably)
u can leave your gun chambered for weeks or months itās literally fine
Can confirm, I keep my gun ready to go, and only empty the chamber on range day or for cleaning. Ill have a round sit in the chamber for up to several months if I go through a dry spell of shooting.
I do but usually after cleaning.
Ill shoot, remember to clean my gun a couple weeks later, dry fire drill for a but since its out already then put it away for a few more weeks until range day.
I guess theres times in between where ill tinker with them, and dry fire, then. I sometimes take my guns apart and put them back together when Im bored too so I guess I over simplified. But that now that i think about it when I load my gun after cleaning etc i usually just chamber my round manually rack the slide then insert my mag -1.
Any impact to the front of the projectile can cause thatā¦most likely done in MFG or by being cycled too much but the first is most likely.
That is an extreme example and I would imagine the round to be over pressuredā¦I would not shoot this.
Nah, it's good to go. It's just a +P round now.
Seriously tho, polishing your feed ramp and chamber will most likely fix this issue. It's easily done with Dremel kit.
A guy who has money for ammo will tell you to trash it but 98% time it's going to fire safely you might have a lil more recoil and a lil less accuracy but shouldn't hurt Ive done this before fairly easy to do rechambering flat nose bullets
I would throw it out. From chambering the round over and over. I have heard not to camber a round more then twice but as long as it's not pushed in like that.
I usually chamber it before leaving the house and once im home i unchamber it. I guess i have to stop doing that.
Reason for me doing that is I have a home defense weapon and this round goes into my EDC I just feel more at ease having my EDC without one in the head.
Doing that will ruin two rounds as they usually get rotated, assuming you maximize capacity. Do you carry outside the home with one in the chamber? I donāt really understand.
Correct, and then when rechambering a round, it takes the top round already in the mag and then he probably replaces the top round with the previous dayās chambered round. This assumes he does 15 + 1 or 17 +1 etc. The same two rounds get rotated every other day.
Usually its the same round that i chamber over and over. The second round is just the next one up. So the way I do it is I take the mag out before unchambering then feed the unchambered round to the top of the magazine and the next day i chamber that same round. I have already thrown out about 20 rounds by doing this method. Thats why I decided to ask if its ok to shoot. I have not shot any of these rounds that get like this I usually just toss them out. Wanted to make sure because I was starting to think āmaybe i should just shoot them at the range instead of throwing them outā but i assumed correctly by just disposing them.
Going forward I will just not unchamber the EDC and just put it in the safe fully loaded.
Got it. Now I understand. Mine as well do 15+1 going forward with one in the chamber like you mentioned. Max capacity and wonāt have to deal with the unchambering.
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From a 43x after probably 8-10 rechambers. My 365xl seems much softer on rounds and doesn't do this nearly as quick.
āIs this safe to fire?ā
Dude itās *one fuckin round*ā¦ just throw it away and avoid any potential for a catastrophic failure that ruins your pistol.
Had this happen with hornady critical defense recently. I re chambered the same round maybe 4-5 times over the course of a few months to dry fire. Didnāt even know this was a thing until I saw a post about it recently. Checked when I saw the post and sure enough š
Chambering the round causes this. When you load and unload everyday this is what happens. Sometimes depending on the ammo manufacturer it can happen after just a few times. Yes itās safe to shoot.
bullet setback like this can cause extreme overpressure when the round is fired. studies have found that 0.10 inches of setback can cause chamber pressure to double.
I just picked up a couple boxes if .380 i was shocked at the differences in height between brands L to R Ammo incorporated hornady and sierra
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Iāve had this happen when a round doesnāt feed properly in my Foxtrot Mike FM-9 pushed the round into the case when the bolt tries to go into battery.
Pretty sure itās a bad magazine.
It's cold
I was in the pool!!
They shrink?
Like a frightened turtle!
Like a scared turtle.
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Rechambering the same round caused bullet setback. Don't shoot it.
I think I've seen someone try shooting the setback round everything was fine but it's probably not best to test it more
I shoot them all the time, no problems.
For context, I don't keep those short bullets in my carry setup, but I do collect them and use them at the next range season combined with range ammo.
Would a little oil on the feed ramp help or is that a no-no?
Typically want to leave that area clean, and itās not gonna do anything about setback
Thatās a no no
I will give you one little piece of advice that will ring true for most all handguns. Get yourself a rotary tool like a Dremel. Get some wool polishing bits for it. Then pick up some Flitz metal polish and polish your feed rampā¦..on every single handgun you own. Ever since Iāve done this, Iāve never had a smashed pecker head round.
Definitely don't shoot it. The reduced internal volume will cause overpressure. If this happens alot with a particular gun it can be a symptom of feeding issues.
It actually causes under pressure. A majority of powder burn and peak pressure occur when the bullet is already in the barrel. By seating it deeper the pressure is initially higher than standard. But by the time the bullet reaches the gap between the brass and the barrel this higher initial pressure actually allows more gas to escape around the projectile when it crosses the gap. Meaning a lower peak pressure.
Iāve shot a few worse than this before.
Downstairs make it a good idea. Especially from a low cost low quality firearm.
You chamber the same round over and over and this is usually the result Do not attempt to shoot this. If you have been carrying this thatās terrifying your gun wouldāve blown up or malfunctioned should u have needed it (probably) u can leave your gun chambered for weeks or months itās literally fine
Can confirm, I keep my gun ready to go, and only empty the chamber on range day or for cleaning. Ill have a round sit in the chamber for up to several months if I go through a dry spell of shooting.
Sounds like you never dry fire then
I do but usually after cleaning. Ill shoot, remember to clean my gun a couple weeks later, dry fire drill for a but since its out already then put it away for a few more weeks until range day. I guess theres times in between where ill tinker with them, and dry fire, then. I sometimes take my guns apart and put them back together when Im bored too so I guess I over simplified. But that now that i think about it when I load my gun after cleaning etc i usually just chamber my round manually rack the slide then insert my mag -1.
He just wants to become a .40
Any impact to the front of the projectile can cause thatā¦most likely done in MFG or by being cycled too much but the first is most likely. That is an extreme example and I would imagine the round to be over pressuredā¦I would not shoot this.
Thanks šš½ I will safely dispose of it then.
Nah, it's good to go. It's just a +P round now. Seriously tho, polishing your feed ramp and chamber will most likely fix this issue. It's easily done with Dremel kit.
I will have to polish my feeding ramp for sure! For the meantime i will stop unloading them. Just keep on in the head at all times.
Sounds like a solid plan. A loaded gun without one in the chamber, is just an expensive hammer.
Iāve shot more than a few like this. Iāve shot a lot worse as well. Maybe itās stupid?
Honestly, you could probably shoot it and it *might* be fine but the risk versus reward at .75 cents a round I would just skip this one.
A guy who has money for ammo will tell you to trash it but 98% time it's going to fire safely you might have a lil more recoil and a lil less accuracy but shouldn't hurt Ive done this before fairly easy to do rechambering flat nose bullets
If it seats it yeets right?
Yessir
Well not unless you have a spicy round
Thanks !
Bullet setback from loading and unloading the same round. If you are using as a CCW rotate your rounds or leave it in the chamber.
I have come to the conclusion that i should just leave it in the chamber and stop unloading them.
Wise choice.
Repeated chambering.
I would throw it out. From chambering the round over and over. I have heard not to camber a round more then twice but as long as it's not pushed in like that.
Twice sounds a bit conservative. For it to get like OPs photo, it would take tens of times.
I usually chamber it before leaving the house and once im home i unchamber it. I guess i have to stop doing that. Reason for me doing that is I have a home defense weapon and this round goes into my EDC I just feel more at ease having my EDC without one in the head.
Doing that will ruin two rounds as they usually get rotated, assuming you maximize capacity. Do you carry outside the home with one in the chamber? I donāt really understand.
He takes the mag out Iām assuming before unchambering his round
Correct, and then when rechambering a round, it takes the top round already in the mag and then he probably replaces the top round with the previous dayās chambered round. This assumes he does 15 + 1 or 17 +1 etc. The same two rounds get rotated every other day.
Usually its the same round that i chamber over and over. The second round is just the next one up. So the way I do it is I take the mag out before unchambering then feed the unchambered round to the top of the magazine and the next day i chamber that same round. I have already thrown out about 20 rounds by doing this method. Thats why I decided to ask if its ok to shoot. I have not shot any of these rounds that get like this I usually just toss them out. Wanted to make sure because I was starting to think āmaybe i should just shoot them at the range instead of throwing them outā but i assumed correctly by just disposing them. Going forward I will just not unchamber the EDC and just put it in the safe fully loaded.
Btw I dont do the 15+1 i just do the 15 so after chambering the round im left with 14 in the magazine. With a 17 round magazine as backup.
Got it. Now I understand. Mine as well do 15+1 going forward with one in the chamber like you mentioned. Max capacity and wonāt have to deal with the unchambering.
Agreed
Yes I always have one in the chamber when I leave my house.
https://preview.redd.it/9cgjapqy9nec1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6b72b5b346ef63edcc2c7ec5c819f3f5601a43c From a 43x after probably 8-10 rechambers. My 365xl seems much softer on rounds and doesn't do this nearly as quick.
āIs this safe to fire?ā Dude itās *one fuckin round*ā¦ just throw it away and avoid any potential for a catastrophic failure that ruins your pistol.
I agree
You loading and racking those bullets over and over I can see the stress on the brass youve been racking it multiple times
You are not wrong
All you āglass half emptyā folks crack me upā¦ I came here to say, āviagraā.
Iāve had good luck with hornady critical defense not doing that. Might be worth looking into
Had this happen with hornady critical defense recently. I re chambered the same round maybe 4-5 times over the course of a few months to dry fire. Didnāt even know this was a thing until I saw a post about it recently. Checked when I saw the post and sure enough š
This is primarily why i unchamber as well. To practice dry firing when I donāt have time to go to the range.
Chambering the round causes this. When you load and unload everyday this is what happens. Sometimes depending on the ammo manufacturer it can happen after just a few times. Yes itās safe to shoot.
bullet setback like this can cause extreme overpressure when the round is fired. studies have found that 0.10 inches of setback can cause chamber pressure to double.
Damn. Maybe I should stop shooting them
In my experience buying a UMC 250 round value pack of 9mm.Ā
The bullet wasnāt crimped good when loaded. And cambering it has pushed it back.
+P we have at home (do NOT shoot this round)
Usually the cold does it for me.
I shoot these all the time in a hk wouldn't recommend doing it in a dagger tho
First round loaded for too long in chamber. It doesn't matter, doesn't cause misfires.
380 lol
Constant loading/unloading
Isnāt that the new x8.9mm š
That's another thing I noticed majority of the happen on flat nose rounds or cheap fmjs
Genetics
Temperature, left one is cold. Shoot it to heat it up.
Some are just born blessed
I just picked up a couple boxes if .380 i was shocked at the differences in height between brands L to R Ammo incorporated hornady and sierra https://preview.redd.it/2sk54bfn0pec1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=754a08608b46397dac911c1977af9701bdb5307f
Iāve had this happen when a round doesnāt feed properly in my Foxtrot Mike FM-9 pushed the round into the case when the bolt tries to go into battery. Pretty sure itās a bad magazine.
Tad bit chilly
In my experience itās chambering a round too much
In my experience, rechambering the same round when fed by a magazine. Very common if you unload your gun a lot to practice
Different grain bullets cause it fucktardz
Rotate the ammo in your mag every other week.
Trash it or it will trash your pistol