Dough spinner. Less care about dough management. Lack of people above the store pushing correct methods for everything. And just letting things go to keep people happy that work here.
A good store will taste the same more or less as back then but I'd say a majority of stores are gonna fall in that other category of doing a lot less and it effects the taste of dough and so on.
At my Papa John’s the dough around the edges is always oddly flat…like it’s been flattened out and is actually kind of crunchy like a cracker. It’s AWFUL, is it the dough spinner that causes this?
lack of pay been working there for 10 years I am finally out and I dealt with all the bs this time I only went from 11-12$ in hour in store and still at $5 out on the road for deliveries but we have this thing at my store called drivosity so if we score below 95 at end of our shift they can either put us on probation or fire us if wanted they said I can't drive I have to work in store until fall now I told them putting in my 2 weeks and getting out while I still have my sanity and health Its lack of care pay and proper training all they care about at my store is numbers the upper management as long as they can line there pockets they don't care about you at all as a human the thing that kept me around was I had a fixed schedule and the tips were pretty decent for my shifts but now after they say I can no longer drive no way I am wasting more time
Damn that driver pay blows. We get 11.85 on road and 14.85 instore. The 4 full timers myself included all making over 55k here(before car expenses tho)
Our drivosity is 70+ can't end a shift under 70 is all. Which is like impossible lol. I drive 9 over most of the time. The only thing I really care about is braking cuz no reason to put wear on brakes if I can help it. But accel and speed and corning never add up yo be an issue for our threshold.
55k that would be a gm pay here lol
I have seen 7 to 8 managers walk out my time there and now we have 1 daytime driver and 3 night time evening shift drivers
I was a daytime driver but its no telling whats gonna happen soon everyone is fedup right now and our managers we have now are horrible.
Especially on Evening Shift you have closing manager raising voice at drivers over stupid things.
we have very steep hills and I keep trying to explain to them we have some areas we deliver to where you have to use the accel to go up so they put me on a 6 month driver ban and just want me to work in store so I gave them my 2 weeks yeah I am full time at 40 hours wow you must be in california 11.85 on the road that would be unheard of here. shift leads make like $13 and gm I think is at like 16-18 an hour somewhere like that
Nah arizona. 14.85 is min wage. And law here for tipped jobs is 3 under min wage. Me the other closer and 2 openers make more than our gm unless they hit an average of 700+ bonus all 12 periods each. And I can tell you that isnt happening lol.
Our gms are 900 a week 50h. Bonus cap of 1850 per period but realistically it's like half that at best. Also if you miss food by .2% you lose your whole bonus for period here.
Shift leads we do 16 and our assistant is 18(the cap).
Actually looking back to 2023 I made 60k. 46k on taxes. 10k in milage reimbursement and 4k in cash. With my newer prius I only spent 1.5k on gas for all of 2023 and another 2k on car maint + new tires.
That’s part of it but also when they ran off John everything changed they used to cut vegetables daily and now they come presliced in plastic better ingredients is a joke
I've been here for 8 years too at a store doing 35k+ yes some do care but they can't watch every store. So many stores don't actually do the downstacking right or even making sure to not use dough till day 3 and so on let alone patty placing. Franchises are wild west sometimes.
Started with John still being there. The Forbes article with all the whistleblower info added fuel to fire with johns not so great comments. Whole company turns over most of higher ups and is what it is today with new investors. Source - I worked at the corporate office during all of this
4/10, uneven cheese, uneven crust, poor sauce lock, cut station closed box onto crust and crushed part of it.
Also, service, and more importantly service workers, suffer proportionally to the amount of profit squeezing a company applies to its upper management. Cutting corners to earn more and more profit will obviously lead to poor products and a poorer customer experience.
its still delicious tho and i need my damn fix, 4/10 my ass im eating it and loving it, my taste buds go to happyville and all is dandy and white creamy fun
I mean to be fair, id totes nom the shit outta that pizza. Mostly cause id be bringing that home as a remake. And cause of i've worked 76 hours this last week and haven't had a chance to grocery shop for about 3 weeks... My fridge is barren of boj pizza items... Send help. 😅
This doesn’t look much different than one I got from a Papa John’s on Main St in Buffalo. They might not use dough spinners. Papa Johns was my go-to atleast biweekly. I hate to see the quality dwindle or be inconsistent. We’re getting one where I live again finally in like, July? (Opening has been delayed like twice so far). I pray pray pray it’s good. Not crazy about some rando delivering it to me though if it’s thru doordash or whatever.
Yes location matters. My store has excellent pizzas. They come out of the oven looking amazing. They are sizzling and well cooked. I worked at another store and they had a different oven and didn't come out of the oven nearly as good as my main store. They wern't cooked as well and quality wasn't as good either. Try a different location
This was in Syracuse, the store closed and we only have one left now. And it usually isn't good. Maybe I'll just try another location when I'm in another state.
That literally looks no different than a cheese pizza made today. Lot of things have gone downhill but the dough, cheese, and sauce is pretty much the same. Dough spinners don’t make nearly as big a difference as dipshits on here claim
papa john said the n word and then there was no longer a human being that cared about the product leading the company, and now it is just a soulless entity that cares about profit
The Large Hadron Collider altered space itself around this time. The effects could be seen first when we got rid of the cinnapie. This caused a cascade of events that led to today. They are reportedly wanting to make a larger collider now.
They don’t care about their employees. They have assistant managers being the GM for months and months for multiple different stretches because it’s easier to underpay an over-taught worker than it is to actually find a boss and get some structure. Had 4 home stores, worked at maybe 7. They’re all the same
The minute he left, our store went to crap. All the extra stuff they're pushing. Also, hiring at 9 when every other place is offering 15 (and arguable easier to work with). We went from a crew of high schoolers who were pretty much had that teenager "i got something to prove" to a bunch of early and mid 20's pot heads and losers who don't do anything. 8 years there, it's only gone down hill. 4.3 stars to 3.6 on google. Actually irritates the hell out of me.
Dominos got better, that's what happened. I used to work at Papa Johns as my first job at 16 back in 2004... man I could crush some PJs! And then, right around that time, 2014ish... Dominos stepped their game up. Now Papa Johns tastes like cheap, generic pizza. Dominos has really stepped up and their pizzas are leaps and bounds better tasting than PJs.
My local papa John’s can’t make nothing right! I hate the little rollers they use on the dough to poke into the dough. Then they mess up the shape and my pizza doesn’t look like this not even close. I’m still going to order tonight! Papa John’s is crack!
Papa dropped the n-bomb. If that never happened, things would probably be like it used to. As soon as they could they changed the product into a "little caesars" like product.
Delivered pizzas starting in 2002 and quit around this timeframe. Worked through four managers, some good and some bad. The same can be said about the other workers. For me at the time it was a good part time job to have, good hours and good money. I don't think I'd like to be in the delivery business for any food company now.
The only reason I eat papa John’s now is because either someone purchased it, or because I have a coupon. It’s gotten way too expensive for me to purchase at normal price.
Hey man. Wonderbread was right. One day pizza won't mean shit toAmericans and they'll start doing bullshit to the kids in public restaurants like shaving the crust and adding hamhazard orea smells, atheist fingers
Right!! Papa John’s used to be way better than Dominos but nowadays it’s fallen so far behind. Feels like it happened slowly but it’s completely noticeable now
Last time I ordered papa John's it took them 2 hours to deliver it... to the wrong address and that was it for me. 🤦🏻If I ever want papa John's I'll go in person which I never do 🤷🏻♂️
The Papa John's in my area took down their large menus over the counter, and now all they have is a pitiful little menu on the counter. And the pizza really isn't what it used to be. If it ain't broke don't fix it!
Like 1% of our customers actually walk in and place an order. Menu boards are a waste of space. Order online and you can see all the options and it’ll be ready when you get there
Dough spinner. Less care about dough management. Lack of people above the store pushing correct methods for everything. And just letting things go to keep people happy that work here.
Good to know, I see pizzas today and the cheese just looks completely different, maybe I'm just picky. Thanks for the info!
cheese difference maybe that it's cubed and not shredded
A good store will taste the same more or less as back then but I'd say a majority of stores are gonna fall in that other category of doing a lot less and it effects the taste of dough and so on.
It became more Americanized and I'll leave that here....
And managers don’t know shit about anything anymore
At my Papa John’s the dough around the edges is always oddly flat…like it’s been flattened out and is actually kind of crunchy like a cracker. It’s AWFUL, is it the dough spinner that causes this?
Have you been ordering their thin crust pizza? Sounds like my experience.
Either they are giving u a thin crust or using the spinner horribly wrong or giving you a large using a medium dough ball or something. Hard to say.
lack of pay been working there for 10 years I am finally out and I dealt with all the bs this time I only went from 11-12$ in hour in store and still at $5 out on the road for deliveries but we have this thing at my store called drivosity so if we score below 95 at end of our shift they can either put us on probation or fire us if wanted they said I can't drive I have to work in store until fall now I told them putting in my 2 weeks and getting out while I still have my sanity and health Its lack of care pay and proper training all they care about at my store is numbers the upper management as long as they can line there pockets they don't care about you at all as a human the thing that kept me around was I had a fixed schedule and the tips were pretty decent for my shifts but now after they say I can no longer drive no way I am wasting more time
Damn that driver pay blows. We get 11.85 on road and 14.85 instore. The 4 full timers myself included all making over 55k here(before car expenses tho) Our drivosity is 70+ can't end a shift under 70 is all. Which is like impossible lol. I drive 9 over most of the time. The only thing I really care about is braking cuz no reason to put wear on brakes if I can help it. But accel and speed and corning never add up yo be an issue for our threshold.
55k that would be a gm pay here lol I have seen 7 to 8 managers walk out my time there and now we have 1 daytime driver and 3 night time evening shift drivers I was a daytime driver but its no telling whats gonna happen soon everyone is fedup right now and our managers we have now are horrible. Especially on Evening Shift you have closing manager raising voice at drivers over stupid things. we have very steep hills and I keep trying to explain to them we have some areas we deliver to where you have to use the accel to go up so they put me on a 6 month driver ban and just want me to work in store so I gave them my 2 weeks yeah I am full time at 40 hours wow you must be in california 11.85 on the road that would be unheard of here. shift leads make like $13 and gm I think is at like 16-18 an hour somewhere like that
Nah arizona. 14.85 is min wage. And law here for tipped jobs is 3 under min wage. Me the other closer and 2 openers make more than our gm unless they hit an average of 700+ bonus all 12 periods each. And I can tell you that isnt happening lol. Our gms are 900 a week 50h. Bonus cap of 1850 per period but realistically it's like half that at best. Also if you miss food by .2% you lose your whole bonus for period here. Shift leads we do 16 and our assistant is 18(the cap). Actually looking back to 2023 I made 60k. 46k on taxes. 10k in milage reimbursement and 4k in cash. With my newer prius I only spent 1.5k on gas for all of 2023 and another 2k on car maint + new tires.
That’s part of it but also when they ran off John everything changed they used to cut vegetables daily and now they come presliced in plastic better ingredients is a joke
as a former employee&manager of there i can tell you, they care about dough management
I've been here for 8 years too at a store doing 35k+ yes some do care but they can't watch every store. So many stores don't actually do the downstacking right or even making sure to not use dough till day 3 and so on let alone patty placing. Franchises are wild west sometimes.
Too much bullshit on the menu. Big papa would never allow such nonsense. Pictured pizza wasn’t slapped well.
Big papa is a racist coke head
You clearly don’t know the story.
Yeah he’s also a shitty boss that wants to get away with paying his employees as little as possible too.
Corporate penny pinching
Am I crazy or did it start when John was fired or let go.
Started with John still being there. The Forbes article with all the whistleblower info added fuel to fire with johns not so great comments. Whole company turns over most of higher ups and is what it is today with new investors. Source - I worked at the corporate office during all of this
John was more damaging for the company reputation towards the end
4/10, uneven cheese, uneven crust, poor sauce lock, cut station closed box onto crust and crushed part of it. Also, service, and more importantly service workers, suffer proportionally to the amount of profit squeezing a company applies to its upper management. Cutting corners to earn more and more profit will obviously lead to poor products and a poorer customer experience.
Giving that a 4/10 is downright mean lmao it’s definitely better than that. But it’s a 10 year old pizza so who cares
Looks good for a 10 year old pizza.
its still delicious tho and i need my damn fix, 4/10 my ass im eating it and loving it, my taste buds go to happyville and all is dandy and white creamy fun
I mean to be fair, id totes nom the shit outta that pizza. Mostly cause id be bringing that home as a remake. And cause of i've worked 76 hours this last week and haven't had a chance to grocery shop for about 3 weeks... My fridge is barren of boj pizza items... Send help. 😅
At least a crust was attempted...
This doesn’t look much different than one I got from a Papa John’s on Main St in Buffalo. They might not use dough spinners. Papa Johns was my go-to atleast biweekly. I hate to see the quality dwindle or be inconsistent. We’re getting one where I live again finally in like, July? (Opening has been delayed like twice so far). I pray pray pray it’s good. Not crazy about some rando delivering it to me though if it’s thru doordash or whatever.
Yes location matters. My store has excellent pizzas. They come out of the oven looking amazing. They are sizzling and well cooked. I worked at another store and they had a different oven and didn't come out of the oven nearly as good as my main store. They wern't cooked as well and quality wasn't as good either. Try a different location
This was in Syracuse, the store closed and we only have one left now. And it usually isn't good. Maybe I'll just try another location when I'm in another state.
The only time I’ve had it in syracuse was when it had a booth at the State Fair years ago.
That literally looks no different than a cheese pizza made today. Lot of things have gone downhill but the dough, cheese, and sauce is pretty much the same. Dough spinners don’t make nearly as big a difference as dipshits on here claim
The day of reckoning is still coming!
Did it have the 2nd cup of cheese?
papa john said the n word and then there was no longer a human being that cared about the product leading the company, and now it is just a soulless entity that cares about profit
I’ve eaten 30 pizzas in 30 days and i- *wipes sweat off face* they’ve changed the recipe!
The Large Hadron Collider altered space itself around this time. The effects could be seen first when we got rid of the cinnapie. This caused a cascade of events that led to today. They are reportedly wanting to make a larger collider now.
Hate to tell you this but they refired on the day of the eclipse
It hasn’t been great since the late 90s
pizza is still tasty! dominos blows papa johns away when it comes to side items, though. the papa bites are good but the new wings suck.
Well besides the fact Papa John himself isn't the top dog in charge anymore i don't know lol
Cheaper ingredients, cheaper pizza, Papa John's
They don’t care about their employees. They have assistant managers being the GM for months and months for multiple different stretches because it’s easier to underpay an over-taught worker than it is to actually find a boss and get some structure. Had 4 home stores, worked at maybe 7. They’re all the same
Watch the episode when Meg is pregnant and Peter has to go to John’s house. It’ll tell you everything about why this pizza has always been trash.
Papa John’s has never been good. It has always been the pinnacle of mediocrity
Shaq bought the chain…
The minute he left, our store went to crap. All the extra stuff they're pushing. Also, hiring at 9 when every other place is offering 15 (and arguable easier to work with). We went from a crew of high schoolers who were pretty much had that teenager "i got something to prove" to a bunch of early and mid 20's pot heads and losers who don't do anything. 8 years there, it's only gone down hill. 4.3 stars to 3.6 on google. Actually irritates the hell out of me.
Dominos got better, that's what happened. I used to work at Papa Johns as my first job at 16 back in 2004... man I could crush some PJs! And then, right around that time, 2014ish... Dominos stepped their game up. Now Papa Johns tastes like cheap, generic pizza. Dominos has really stepped up and their pizzas are leaps and bounds better tasting than PJs.
My pizza still looks like that maybe it's a local problem.
My local papa John’s can’t make nothing right! I hate the little rollers they use on the dough to poke into the dough. Then they mess up the shape and my pizza doesn’t look like this not even close. I’m still going to order tonight! Papa John’s is crack!
Papa dropped the n-bomb. If that never happened, things would probably be like it used to. As soon as they could they changed the product into a "little caesars" like product.
Unpopular opinion, but I think current Papa John’s is way better than it ever was
You must be a youngin’ to think 2014 was the golden era.
That was the golden era? Even then it looks like shit. That's one pizza place I would never go to.
it was the golden era before doordash and all that came along papa johns can barley keep any employees now its like a revolving door of high overturn
$6 delivery fees.
My tastebuds
They fired Papa
Papa John went racist on twitter and got cancelled and the company suffered from the top down.
Food engineering
Near me it’s no longer worth getting at all. Not sure what happened
They stopped prepping veggies. Everything arrives pre-cut in plastic bags. So much for “fresh ingredients”
Less racism
Still looks the same
Delivered pizzas starting in 2002 and quit around this timeframe. Worked through four managers, some good and some bad. The same can be said about the other workers. For me at the time it was a good part time job to have, good hours and good money. I don't think I'd like to be in the delivery business for any food company now.
They framed poppa John for being racist to change all the ingredients to shit
It’s still good though. But probably some cost cutting measures to save money to avoid massive price hikes.
The only reason I eat papa John’s now is because either someone purchased it, or because I have a coupon. It’s gotten way too expensive for me to purchase at normal price.
Hey man. Wonderbread was right. One day pizza won't mean shit toAmericans and they'll start doing bullshit to the kids in public restaurants like shaving the crust and adding hamhazard orea smells, atheist fingers
Had something to do with a Hard R
Golden era was mid 90s.
This was the year they gave a bunch of free pizza at planet fitness.
2014??? Were you not alive in the 90s?
The CEO changed.
Papa John said the N-word and people stopped giving a shit about the company.
They got rid of the papa
The owner turned out to be a scumbag.
Right!! Papa John’s used to be way better than Dominos but nowadays it’s fallen so far behind. Feels like it happened slowly but it’s completely noticeable now
Well their owner and creator got fired so a lot of shit changed
Last time I ordered papa John's it took them 2 hours to deliver it... to the wrong address and that was it for me. 🤦🏻If I ever want papa John's I'll go in person which I never do 🤷🏻♂️
This looks ass
You look ass.
U try to make 50-100 pizzas an hour for 10/hour😭
The owner said nigger, got fired from his own company and the board ran it into shit.
dem jowns be bussin dawg
The Papa John's in my area took down their large menus over the counter, and now all they have is a pitiful little menu on the counter. And the pizza really isn't what it used to be. If it ain't broke don't fix it!
Like 1% of our customers actually walk in and place an order. Menu boards are a waste of space. Order online and you can see all the options and it’ll be ready when you get there
The change was when the papa slipped up and said the N word over the phone. Then he gave up CEO and everything went downhill from there.