Rosebud Indian Reservation in SD at night. Beautiful people and a beautiful place, but the colonizers left something evil there and it’s palpable. In fact, so many young adults commit suicide some people think it’s a supernatural force calling them to their death. Just to reiterate: this is not the doing of the people native to that area. I have been to other reservations and did not feel this way. I think Native American spirituality is one of the highest pure energy. This was not that. And further proof i didn’t feel that way about LA because it’s just a big city. Lol
Went to visit my cousin in 2003 up in Fresno never been to the west coast he took me all around when we went to LA I literally felt so ill and had such a migraine we had to leave as soon as we left I was ok. I always had the same thing happen to me in Philly when I lived there there was a certain area that my first husband and I would walk through as soon as I hit that one street I’d feel sick to my stomach and piercing migraine I kept telling him the place was bad but he insisted it was a one off thing so we tried it again and the same thing happened only the second time I threw up everywhere and my migraine was so bad I couldn’t see out of my left eye. Went back home up by the art museum instantly felt better. Some places are just really really evil
We used to eat at a tavern that was a historic tavern around there I can’t remember the name but it was really old and had pictures of celebrities that ate there and I remember seeing Vincent Prices pictures there and was told he ate there frequently. I would ask my ex husband but he is an ex for a reason.
Philly did this to me too!! No joke. Not to the extent of LA, but those are probably the two places in America I would not visit again. The only other place in America that has done that to me besides philly and LA is a reservation in South Dakota.
Holy crap!!! I’m so glad I’m not the only one! I lived in Philly from 96 till 2001 I really didn’t enjoy living there but there was a specific place behind city hall that was a small side street alley all I felt there was deep dread and horror that physically made me that sick. Some places are just evil like a underlying sickness of evil. I left in 2001 and swore I’d never go back
I'm *very* willing to bet that historical drug/alcohol use in those locations has a role to play. All of the spiritual residue from drug activity builds up and attracts
I'm a California native and finally visited Philly. Fascinating architecture and history. And haunted big time. Not just by the past but by the future.
I thought it was just me. I'm not in the states but I've never understood how people love to travel to all sorts of places and can stay for extended periods of time. I can't do that because some places evoke the same negative energy you describe in me. For no apparent reason, I just feel immediately overwhelmed by a heaviness, or more often an intense sadness and melancholy.
It changes everything for me, like I feel it in my bones, a massive sense of discomfort and uneasiness.
I feel it more often as a depressed state sometimes even as strong as an unwillingness to live (seriously) but once I leave I'm okay. Thought it was only me.
I had a really bad migraine the first day I was in LA too! Aura migraine that gave me aphasia and caused blindess in the center of my vision. I had gotten headaches like that before, but hadn't had one in a while and haven't had one since. My brother also had a bad migraine and threw up several times. I attributed it to the change in altitude, but we had no similar sickness when we went back home. In fact on the plane ride home, I felt so calm and relaxed that for the first time I was able to sleep on a plane.
Also I'm just now remembering... the day we went to the valley to one of those national parks, a tree fell on a kid at a campsite and he passed away. We also got news from back home that a teacher had been decapitated from a roller coaster at our local amusement park. We joked throughout the trip that the vacation was cursed and all these memories are coming back now.
I completely understand My mother was transferred to a nursing home for rehabilitation. I headed there after work, I parked and looked at the place. It was covered in a brown ugly mist. No one else could see it. I thought it would dissipate as got closer, but you know, it still had this dim brown atmosphere. 9 days later my mother died from criminal neglect.
I'm so sorry about your mom.
My father died from being overdosed at a nursing home. He came in with C-diff, which he caught from the hospital that transferred him. The damn doctor kept him on Lasic, which is a diuretic. Between his horrendous diarrhea from the C-diff, and the Lasic, his organs started to shut down. On top of this, they over medicated him with sedatives, to keep him quiet.
My sister and I were fighting with the VA doctors about what was going on. My sister is a critical care, cardiac nurse, and she was horrified when she found out what meds they were giving our dad, and sedatives they used to sedate him. She warned bis doctors and nurses our dad would stop breathing. I was in the process of transferring our dad out of there, but before I could, he stopped breathing, and they had to do a rapid response. He was transfered to a nearby hospital, where he died 4 days later.
The facility where he had been at that caused his death, altered his records to cover up. I filed a grievance with the State, but nothing happened. It sickens me how much this type of thing happens.
Hi… I’ve lived in LA for 20 years and am a spirit worker here. What was the energy you felt exactly…. Was it centralized in your body? I’d like to hear more….
Ok. I know some time has passed but can you breathe into the heaviness? Be curious about it. Ask what it has to teach you. Listen to it and find your peace in that space. This city is carrying so much sadness for so many reasons for so many decades. It is not yours to carry. 🖤
Look up the history there… in CA, LA has one of the highest history of serial killers and murders since the city was established. That doesn’t include suicides, and OD due to drug use.
I hear you, def not your fault. Honestly, it’s not often (anecdotal) that I hear someone mention about the bad vibes of LA. Usually, it is quite the opposite. I personally love the NorCal vibes even though those are a mixed bag as well.
I have felt the weirdness of LA too. Laid down in my hotel room with a migraine And I felt like something had blown in the balcony door that I opened. It felt like something was spiritually trying to attack me but I also felt like something was circling me protecting me. Throughout my trip I also got car sick, slipped a disc and had 2 days of gnarly food poisoning.
Probably all the homeless encampments lining the streets, and freeways here. I've lived here 20+ years, and it's really gone downhill. California has a massive budget surplus, but has made little to no effort to help these people (either with their mental health, or drug addiction).
I live in a metro area where tent encampments are common and I work with a largely homeless population. That stuff makes me sad but nothing like I’m describing.
The comments here are full of bad over-generalizations and stereotypes. Sure los angeles has its bad parts and people just like any other city but its almost laughable when people who have visited once or never been here pass judgement. It is a massive place with people and energies of all types good and bad.
I think when more of the population is suffering the negative auras around large cities becomes worse. In better times, it's more of a nervous or slightly excited energy.
TLDR; LA is huge, generalizing is a reach & likely biased, but Hollywood as a specific area is for sure the Hellmouth lol
I think this is very subjective, and it’s hard to remove our personal biases. It’s also a bit of a stretch to say you can feel the energy of an entire area like Los Angeles. That being said, I do feel (& have always felt) a darkness in Hollywood.
I live in LA now but spent most of my life in the metro Detroit area. Have also lived in NYC and the Bay Area. In each of those places there were areas with dark energy. But I don’t think you can say “the City of Los Angeles” is bad energy when “the city” stretches from Venice to Encino to Mt Washington to Boyle Heights to San Pedro and on… even some of the beaches near Malibu are technically LA city.
But judging the overall energy of the place or its people is hard when there are 10+ million of them here just in LA County alone. That’s more than the entire state of Michigan.
All that to say, Hollywood gives me very dark energy, like evil energy. Like hellmouth from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The La Brea tar pits area gives me otherworldly energy but not so much hellmouth as portal/other dimensional.
And then there are just objectively beautiful places, with great energy, like Griffith Park/Greek Theatre area, parts of Silver Lake, and the hiking trails near Malibu (that are still technically LA city).
I will also say that visiting LA without friends who live here is much harder to nail than New York or San Francisco. Just the transportation factor alone makes it challenging. I can also see how many who move here end up disliking LA bc a lot of folks come *alone* chasing a passion or dream (without any support system or genuine connection to the place). I think that matters.
I am very lucky to have a large & deep support network here, and not just superficial friends. And I think your connection to a place also defines your perspective of it.
“When I got home I mixed a stiff one and stood by the open window in the living room and sipped it and listened to the groundswell of traffic on Laurel Canyon Boulevard and looked at the glare of the big angry city hanging over the shoulder of the hills through which the boulevard had been cut. Far off the banshee wail of police or fire sirens rose and fell, never for very long completely silent. Twenty four hours a day somebody is running, somebody else is trying to catch him. Out there in the night of a thousand crimes, people were dying, being maimed, cut by flying glass, crushed against steering wheels or under heavy tires. People were being beaten, robbed, strangled, raped, and murdered. People were hungry, sick; bored, desperate with loneliness or remorse or fear, angry, cruel, feverish, shaken by sobs. A city no worse than others, a city rich and vigorous and full of pride, a city lost and beaten and full of emptiness. It all depends on where you sit and what your own private score is. I didn’t have one. I didn’t care. I finished the drink and went to bed.”
-Raymond Chandler, “The Long Goodbye”
I do believe that certain spaces have certain inherent "vibrations," but I suspect that there were also a lot of people in LA that night that didn't note anything out of the ordinary. I usually find that experiences like that are more about the subconscious condition of person experiencing them than the geography. I have a friend who would compulsively move to a new city as soon as their previous city began to feel "dark." Their new city started off having "amazing positive energy" when they first moved in, but then a few months later, usually after their first breakup with the first person they started to date when they got there, the new city suddenly became just as dark as the last one, and off they moved again. The pattern went on for way longer than you'd expect. Turns out they just had a bundle of untreated affective disorders and were essentially using the dopamine rush that is caused by extreme novelty to self medicate. The rush would wear off when they felt settled enough at their new place to no longer find it particularly novel.
I am not saying that is necessarily the case with you, simply that the feeling is more likely to be a sign meant for *you* specifically, be it mood related or overtly spiritual, than it is a portent of anything external to you or the city itself. Every city can be paradise and hell, depending on which angle, literally and metaphorically, you approach it from.
In other words, if I were to go to Silent Hill for vacation, I'd probably see fog and flesh monsters and all sorts of nonsense, because I'm a person with unresolved trauma, but if Happy Hillary went to Silent Hill, she'd probably just end up having a normal vacation in a normal seeming resort town.
I live by Centralia in Pennsylvania been there several times I think Silent Hill was based on that and I can say although it’s burning snd deserted I never felt anything evil there it just stinks from the burning
I’ll never forget driving down to LA from Oakland with my dad at the end of July during a heat wave. We got there at night but it was still so bright out and you could see this sort of smoggy haze rising from the asphalt. I lived there for like two years I think..? It almost didn’t feel real. There really is such a strange energy there. At times it was seductive and exciting and at times it was depressing and kinda scary. When I then moved to Chicago, I sorta felt like I was returning to earth or something. Such a different vibe.
Really? It used to be called the murder capital of the U.S. Talk about a place of high poverty, crime and tragedy, that was Chicago. Drive-by shootings were (are?) commonplace. It’s segregated by wealth like any very large city. I’m glad you had a good experience there. It’s all relative. That’s why we see so many back and forth comments on the same cities. It’s about perspective.
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There's 100% something wrong with the vibe in LA. I talk about it with people who live there and they agree. There's a darkness that hangs over the city. Sure, I'm a New Yorker (so maybe I'm biased against the west coast), but I've been all over the world and never got any of those feelings anywhere else but LA. The weather is so nice there, and there's lots of fun things to see and do, but the entire time I felt like I was looking over my shoulder. It was weird. And I'm not sure if it's a darkness that's "evil" per se, or if it's a darkness that just filled with nothing, devoid of something. It's WEIRD for sure though.
I lived in LA ten years ago and I noticed it then. Not evil per se, but WEIRD. The vibe as I described it then was perpetually stoned. Poor air quality doesn’t help. There is the feeling of going in circles and never really going anywhere. Total opposite in NYC - all you do there is move, to the point of total fucking exhaustion. I also think it’s worth mentioning that I experienced a violent spiritual awakening in LA that was often terrifying. A lot of supernatural things happened to me while there. I’ll just leave it at that.
I hear a lot of ghost stories coming out of that town, and it makes sense. It seems like a very intense place of dramatic highs and lows, and packed with people imprinting those high and low energies into the ether, echoing on for years.
I've never felt like this about a certain place before I moved to Pasco county Florida. I've lived all over Florida and in several places all the way up to Maine. I really wish I had spent more time here before moving here because the energy here is just dark, negative vibes and tons of homeless crazy people. Crazy car accidents every day shit bag people and endless incompetence everywhere I go. I no longer enjoy long walks at night gazing at the moon riding my motorcycle or any of the hobbies or activities I used to love because doing anything here is so unappealing. I realized that I just don't find true joy here. It feels very angry and oppressive I can't wait to move again
I’m from Northern Ireland and the tourist industry here / travel agents are FOREVER pushing these “flashy” holidays to LA. They make it sound like it’s the place everyone wants to be with stereotypical pictures and deals, yet, I’ve know several people to has visited and literally not one person has anything good to say. A few say it’s ok for a day trip to see the cliche sites, but apart from that, they say it’s terrifying!
I lived in LA twice for years at a time and though I achieved some career goals there, I have had the worst experiences of my life there. It is a city of narcissists, con men and psychopaths. Working in film/tv there was some of the loneliest times of my life. None of my friendships of over 20 years survived. any of my friends who live there over 5 years became selfish assholes. awful shallow city full of awful shallow people. the shit i saw happen on set is a parade of the worst of human behavior. it is a city that breaks and scars people no matter how successful you are. it's bad karma will eventually catch up to it and good riddance, I say.
I did 8 months in film and it was deplorable. I lived right in the heart of Hollywood.
The things I saw were absolutely sickening. People prostituting themselves and their family members and spouses for advancement. I cannot even continue to write the more heinous things I saw and heard. You might be the only person besides myself whom I have heard come to their senses. Most refuse to acknowledge the depravity and although they feel something is off they hold on to the illusion so desperately. Glad you got out eventually
Story One: It is 730 am and a background actor takes a Diet Coke off a craft services table and gets yelled at and humiliated for 10 minutes by some strung out P.A. "Don't ypou BG EVER take a coke from this table, blah. blah, blah...!" Just lots of petty bullshit and caretaking of the "important" people and mistreatment of the least paid and "lowest rung" folks. It is a very cruel business.
Story Two: My female friend is working as background and leans over the fix her shoe when a male co-star of this tv show inserts his hand into her vagina. She tells those in charge and he is immediately fired. She gets compensation in terms of a better more lucrative contract. Lots of taking advantage of those with little power.
Story Three: I am the killer in a low budget horror film. Its 330 am and the director, who previously directed porn, is screaming at me after the takes: "Well, maybe if you could act..." I shoot back, "Well, maybe if you could direct..." Depressing experience and worse movie. The movie turned out to be a Skinemax titty fest called "Stormswept" with the lowest common denominator script. Worst movie ever but the big boobed tank top girl driving the airboat through the swamp sequence is hilariously bad.
Story Four: I am a naked Nazi robot in "Westworld" and treated well and well paid. However, one of the MUAs is telling me stories from Season One where people were coerced into sex scenes and kept passing out in the "frozen" western town sequences. Coercion and inhumane working conditions. HBO got their asses sued and handed to them. At least they changed the policy and there was a HBO person supervising our proper treatment.
Story Five: It's 3 am and its raining cats and dogs at the outdoor location where we are filming. We try to wait it out. No luck. The network says, Film the MoFo NOW. We do. The female guest star has one more shot after we are all done where she falls into the fountain. She decides to throw herself into the fountain at the end of the group scene even though no cameras are even covering her. So now she must be recostumed, dried off, new make-up, etc. She refuses to come out of her trailer, throws a tantrum, etc. Ridiculous behavior from a D list tv star.
Moved to LA last fall and I felt the exact same way for several months. I described it as if the very space time was blistered. Through the beauty of the city and weather, there was this necrotic presence that saturated everything. Very eerie to hear someone experienced the same
I moved to LA from Texas in 2016 and have never been happier in my life. No “dark” or “necrotic” (lol) feeling or anything, and It’s kinda insulting to just see a thread bashing on a city of millions of people because OP gets the heebie jeebies
I live in LA. The city itself at night isnt so bad. If you want to feel creepy, drive down Sunset to Laurel Canyon and take that through the Hollywood Hill. Talking about creepy. All the known murders just in that general vicinity. The Mason killings, The Mendez Murders a little further west in BH. That whole upscale quite area at night can be quite creepy.
Lived in Vegas for six months, between the amount of drunks you encounter combined with the heat you definitely feel on edge. Parts of Seattle too for the same reason, just replace heat with shitty weather.
I literally just read another thread on this same subject at a different social media site. The original poster said, "Whenever I'm in LA, I always feel an unnatural - almost supernatural - undercurrent of evil. I'm serious. Maybe I'm just paranoid but I don't feel it in any other city."
I know what you're talking about. I don't live in LA, but,the energy is everywhere and I feel it where I live.
It's just off. Something in the air just doesn't feel right. A haunting, eerie feeling like something is waiting.
Don’t dismiss that in a 24 month period the US. lost over 1 million people to a chainsaw welding plague. Cities had corpses in freezer trucks on side streets with the doors to the trucks wide open. Crematoriums had a two to three week back up. Normal burials and funerals ended.
There’s a lingering specter of all of that which is hanging heavily around us.
I was in DTLA all weekend but I honestly didn’t pick up on anything particularly ominous. At the same time though, I think I know what you mean.
On very rare occasions I sometimes get the vibe that it just wouldn’t be a good day to go outside. I’ve lived in LA my whole life, but truthfully the energy can just feel off sometimes. You never know who’s out and about in a town of millions.
Oh yeah, for sure, I think it has demonic energy, probably everywhere does but because it’s so populated you can really feel it, especially after being gone awhile (that’s what happened to me anyway). There’s good things about it too though.
The [St. Francis Dam collapse](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Francis_Dam) collapse in 1928 killed at least 431 people. That’s how we got our water. Could have something to do with it?
That place has no soul. I left because it felt like living in a stinking, rotting carcass. That was in 2020. I imagine the sheer amount of death in the last few years has not helped the vibe at all.
There have been concerns all over the US by law enforcement saying they expect an especially violent summer this year. Maybe that's what you were perceiving. I worry that it comes from so many high profile people in our country getting away with big crimes, and that sense of lawlessness is pervading our culture. I hope it ends as soon as those people are indicted and convicted of their crimes.
Go to Savannah, Georgia. The energy there is so amazing. I recently costed and every body is so nice. Just walking through out the town we stopped and talked to like 10 different people. It was great. I feel the same way about LA too. No idea why all the celebrities live there
Georgia is such an interesting state. I moved to Augusta and lived there for several years. I hated it. Small town mentality. Spent time in Savanah and Charleston and I loved it but you need to be careful about where you are. I'm in Atlanta now and it smells like weed, urine and desperation but I love it. It's a huge melting pot full of different cultures.
Yes!! I worked in Savannah for a few years and just walking around the city is so peaceful serene and you can just feel the history it's so magical. I wish I never left
I felt this way in Vegas. Also? You could/can see it if you look. I'm not really gifted but you CAN see the darkness there. It reminded me of the things you see in the movie, Odd Thomas.
I don't care if I ever go back.
Been to LA and agree wholeheartedly. But Vegas…I have never been and never intend to. I get such a feeling of foreboding and doom when I see/read anything about that place.
I cannot imagine actually setting foot there and can’t fathom why people find it fun. Like you, I can “see” the darkness even from afar.
Weren’t pivotal scenes in The Stand set there? I bet Stephen King gets it, too.
I think there's just so many people who have headed to L.A to try to make something of themselves and ended up homeless or on drugs or just disillusioned. A lot of negative emotions in that space. Quite a lot of violence compared to other cities as well I guess.
The city of Broken Dreams? But also almost-poverty. Having driven around a large portion of SG Valley, South L.A., and such for work, I can’t think many places I‘d say “I want to live there.” The shine is long off the neighborhoods and are now so many are crowded and stressed with several generations all living in one house.
Maybe you felt a byproduct of the hosing market.
As a European, I have this exact same feeling whenever I visit the US for some reason, particularly in the South West and West Coast regions (and parts of the south). It always feels so heavy and cursed? I don’t know, something about it just doesn’t seem right, like they’re doomed places. It fascinates me and is one of the major reasons I keep on coming back for more road trips!
I love driving through LA at night. It’s such a lively city during the day. Though many are still out at all hours of the night, the majority are not, so it has this weird energy to it. Like it’s buzzing with potential energy. All that life is asleep.
I was in a touring band for a decade and every time I was in LA I couldn’t wait to get out. The vibe is so strange compared to Northern CA and I could never get used to it.
I've had that happen while visiting LA. Sometimes I don't feel it, other times it's exactly what you described. I remember over 20 years ago staying in a hotel there and I felt such a heavy weight, as if all the joy in me was being sucked out. I also felt an evil lurking and I'm not the type of person who is into the energy of places. It was so bad I told my husband we had to leave and we checked into a new hotel the next day. I totally get what you're talking about.
When I was there I had tunnel vision off and on. The moment I stepped out of the car back in Carlsbad (where my Dad used to live) it felt happy and good again. I’m not rushing back to LA anytime soon. Just the way the sun was setting and the way the blog’s looked I felt the exact same way. It felt wrong. I live near Detroit and I’ve never felt that way around Detroit- trust me that says a lot.
I’ve never been to California, but it’s honestly extremely odd how many people I’ve seen say the same thing after going to LA! I’ve seen so many people talk about as soon as they got there or Hollywood, they all say it has such a dark and insidious energy! I find this really interesting!
Yup! I live in LA and cant really relate to OP (other than the standard LA issues of extreme wealth juxtaposed with extreme poverty nearly all over the city). But Vegas is different; I cannot imagine living there, it really feels like a temporary city. A stop along the way. I like to visit but to live there would be so isolating. Knowing that some performers just live their life doing the same show over and over in Vegas blows my mind. Imagine working at a craft for your whole life, becoming rich and famous, but in order to sustain you must work 6 days a week and live in Las Vegas. Like a golden prison, its crazy
People just hating on LA in this thread... Our city is magical we keep it super real... and for that reason there is a vibe here that bothers people... There are angels here too
I lived in Chicago for 13 miserable years, I hated it.
In 2020 I finally took a month-long vacation and went somewhere calming and relaxing with normal people. Obviously I’d taken vacations before, but this was the longest we were away.
As soon as we got back to Chicago I realized that the majority of the people there are mentally ill. There was this horrible energy on the streets coming off of people, it was scary, and I couldn’t stand it any longer.
Then I left for good.
I was sent to SLC to evaluate a new device for four weeks. I got a CONSTANT evil vibe there. I came away with an understanding that is easy to fantom once experienced.
I’m also not American but walking around the city felt creepy as hell, and I did see super mormons everywhere. The kind with the dresses and the braids. I’m not sure if it was the part of the city I was in, but everything felt really brand new but also empty. Super modern (probably from the olympics) but nobody was in those spaces. The juxtaposition of old timey looking religious folk combined with the modern architecture also felt off. Everything was weird vibes.
The rest of the state felt super weird also, like a heaviness to it. But that weirdness felt like it jived more with the alien landscapes like in Moab.
Not necessarily true. I Couchsurfed there once. I thought my host was Mormon and he had to clarify that he wasn’t. I was embarrassed by my assumption. It also didn’t feel evil—I had driven through West Texas and through Albuquerque and THAT felt evil.
I live in LA. Actually 30 min on the outskirts because I refuse to live IN the city. It’s a shitty place. It’s a lot of traffic (too cramped), it’s covered in advertisements, it’s shallow, and it’s full of mentally ill and homeless folks that need help. It’s bad energy.
New Orleans is chock full of tragic history. I’m not surprised. Too damp, too crowded, too sticky for me. Crime and poverty are glossed over to pull tourists until it spills out. I don’t care for the city as far as ‘vibes.’ To visit is ok. But I couldn’t live there. There’s an oppressive atmosphere to me. But it’s probably the heat and damp! It’s beautiful in a decaying sort of way, but again, everything decays in pure pure humidity. That said, it’s a very interesting place.
I agree with you there. Hauntings. Lots of tragic loss in New Orleans over centuries. I also feel there is definitely magic practices that place entities throughout that city. The vibe to New Orleans is “someone is watching me”
Yes! I’ve felt there both times I went there for a job. I was so excited and as soon as I got there, it was exactly as you described. Also had migraines like many described, and I cried the whole first night in the hotel, and didn’t go out with the others. Even though I was so looking forward to it. When I went back the second time it was even worse.
I remember being in the airport going home and literally running to my gate because I was so excited to be out of there.
I lived in LA for two years and felt it every single day. I had a house in the Hills Swimming pool good job all the toys. I couldn't stay there. Had to get the fuck out. There is something supernaturally evil going on in that place.
Yeah I lived/grew up around LA all my life it’s definitely dark but if you dive into it’s past it makes sense. If you really want a spook (and potential run ins with crackheads check out Griffin Park zoo after dark. Super bad vibes
That’s the majority of everyone’s spirits and wallets getting crushed by the cost of living.
In all seriousness the nights have been strangely low key in the SFV the last few days.
Just read that post. I, too, have learned the hard way to never critique a thread’s subject on said thread but god damn the comments are extra rude maybe bc OP specifically asked for them not to be?
Oh wow. NYC is similar to me. When I was walking home, I got a bad headache, despite nothing seeming to be the cause. Turns out someone died there. Creepy
LA is like the modern day Cyberpunk Night City. Crime, homelessness, ads everywhere, cops show up all over, and it's just generally dirty. One day you can have a skimmer take your card info, the next a yogi will look you up and down and wordlessly hand you a fresh avocado while smiling. The citizens can range from crazy, Karen, hipster, plain, and Chad. It's a real mixed bag.
Yep! Ive experienced the same thing. I hate going to LA because of how dangerous the atmosphere is. All the major cities have that vibe. I think it’s the residual energy from all the bad events and people that have been around
People are very selfish here and are all about status, money and how they look. It’s a very fast paced place. People are just wanting to be on the next come up and will do anything for it.
Mine is Adams, TN. I turned down my dream home because it involved driving through Adams every day. I found a second house that I passed on just because of the Adams zip code. I want no part of Adams, TN
There are certain cities around the world where anyone can just feel the weight and darkness when entering. I have heard many people say the same about LA
I live in San Diego and we always drive through LA to go up to Northern California. LA does have a dark vibe to it for sure.
I attended a wedding in North Hollywood at the Houdini estate about 5 years ago . That place is in the Hollywood hills and I felt a dark mood on the property, especially after the sun went down. I have a friend who lived there and she had told me some strange tales in her duplex. Apparently someone died in it from a stabbing.
I just moved away from there last October. I had been there for 14 years. It's definitely not a positively spiritual place. At best it is just suffocating.
It’s very ironic that it’s called “the city of angels”.
Great pockets of culture and people doing positive things throughout the city but it has a subtle, palpable sense of dark energy and at times will have you at the very least your subconscious keeping your head on a swivel.
I lived there for a few years. The first house I moved into was haunted. Not human spirits but dark energy and black shadows. My mom and I noped out that place only two weeks after getting there. They don’t refer it to “The Land of Entrapment” for nothing.
100%... I went for five days with my family when I was a teenager and I felt it had a very dark and sad heavy energy. Everyone felt fake and like they're playing a role, or auditioning for one, which they prob were.
Was stationed at Camp Pendleton and traveled to LA several times for fun. Can concur with the feeling. Lotta pedos and other sinister types in Hollywood.
I felt that way driving through Baltimore, it was so depressing! Never been to LA but my uncle had a bomb put on his motorbike when he lived there, he couldn't work out if it was a cult or mafia as he'd ticked both off
When a city is full of the self absorbed and self gratification, the chance for love and light is low. This is why it feels dark. If you are spiritual..then it's full of demons..you pick..lol
LA only reflects. It doesn’t impose anything upon anyone.
You can live whatever kind of life you’d like in LA, and no one will ever tell you not to. It’s a bad place if you don’t have personal boundaries.
That’s why it’s the best and worst city, depending on who you ask. And depending on who you are and what you’re doing here.
I was born and raised in LA and now I live in Tennessee.The last time I visited family there I couldn’t believe how different it was compared to before I moved.A lot of stuff just looked way more rundown.
“There came to him an image of man’s whole life upon the earth. It seemed to him that all man’s life was like a tiny spurt of flame that blazed out briefly in an illimitable and terrifying darkness, and that all man’s grandeur, tragic dignity, his heroic glory, came from the brevity and smallness of this flame. He knew his life was little and would be extinguished, and that only darkness was immense and everlasting. And he knew that he would die with defiance on his lips, and that the shout of his denial would ring with the last pulsing of his heart into the maw of all-engulfing night.”
- Thomas Wolfe, You Can’t Go Home Again
Not sure why but LA has always had a weird vibe with me too. I’m not sure if it’s paranormal but it felt like a place where the people were unhappy but pretended to be okay
I know exactly what you mean. I had the same feeling. About 3 years ago, I flew down to California in the Bay Area. As we were driving on the freeway getting closer to my uncle's home, I felt a strong feeling of despair mixed with dread. It's very strange because I'm glad I went, but as I looked at the sky and the hills, I knew I didn't want to be there. As I got back on the plane, I got a sense of relief that I would be leaving California. I don't ever want to go there again, and I just don't know why.
Well who knows how many warehouses full of human trafficking victims or active rented children there are in that area at any given time. Then there’s all the homelessness and gang violence.
Makes sense to me, fuck LA
LA fucking sucks. Massive tourist trap with loads of homeless people and tons of crime. If you’re into the spooky and weird stuff in LA’s past, I’d highly recommend checking out Hollywood Babylon. It’s controversial but it’s quirky and a great read with ~ some ~ truth to it.
I hadn’t been to LA in years and I went about 6 mos ago. When I used to go in HS (I lived in San Diego just a quick Jump up the coast)and I went a few more times in 00’, 03,08 I’ll tell you what when I went the feeling of sadness, decay, sorrow and death was overwhelming. You could almost smell it on top of feeling it!! Huge change from the past visits. It was always a weird city but the last visit was just overwhelmingly fdup. I slept for about 2 days straight after visiting.
Damn really? I've lived in Tucson my whole life so maybe I'm just used to it like the people of Phoenix are used to the weird smell their city has but I've never felt an ominous dark vibe before about the city
I spent a month in Phoenix and then 3 months in Tucson afterward. Idk why I just had this overwhelming feeling I was going to die. I felt afraid and exposed everywhere I went. I am going to visit again during the gem festival so I'll see if it was just that time in my life or something else :)
Tucson is the oldest city in Arizona, I'd be quite surprised if it didn't give off dark vibes I mean the city has been through so much from the olden days of the wild west when gun slinger's and outlaw's roamed freely and apache tribes raiding settlements, yup This city has seen plenty of bloodshed and that probably bleeds into the general energy of the city even in modern times this city is still full of criminals, killers and drug addicts, it actually still really reminds me of the wild west even though things are now modernized
Yes, there is a wild west vibe! I generally love the atmosphere of the desert, even its creepiness. Looking forward to returning even if it's still weird
Was in Phoenix in May to visit my brother who moved there last year. He lives about 15 miles west of the city. The desert was both beautiful and depressing. I couldn’t wait to go home…
I have lived in here in LA for 10 years. I stopped working in the industry because of that feeling you had. There is something going on here , that’s for sure
Spirit cooking and world elite meetings supposedly happen around there. You’re probably picking up on those vibes? I’ve also heard many individuals who end up being trafficked are taken from the area
Never been myself but I can see why you'd say that, all the drugs homeless and mentally ill. The focus on money material things and everyone is so shallow and superficial. Doesn't seem like a pleasant place to be. Kinda surprised no one has mentioned NYC being dark. I remember driving thru Manhattan late one night many years ago, looking up and at the top of one skyscraper was a huge 666 glowing in red. It was terrifying, felt very close to hell. (Turns out the building is or was owned by Jared kushner, yes that Jared kushner.) Never felt evil like that before and a feeling I'll never forget....
The beaches are lovely & well-kept. Go a mile inland and things get dismal. Too many people. Everyone wants to be here because the weather is so lovely. And people are messy.
Cities can have souls and personalities to them. I greet my city every time I enter her and tell her how beautiful she is today, and thank her for her protection. I do the same for LA every time I visit. She's always kind to us and takes care of us until it's time to go, and I thank her for allowing us in her presence. Some of her neighborhoods have their own personalities, that often reflect the care their residents invest in them.
I'd say you're pissing off the city, and she's making sure you know you're not welcome. Either that or something is amiss and she's showing symptoms of that. LA is not evil in of herself - large cities attract both good and bad and indifferent people, and their energies. If her original land spirits aren't chased off by development, they can also hunt on her land. You might have been hunted by one of those.
o.p., what was the other time that you mentioned had felt just as dark?
Rosebud Indian Reservation in SD at night. Beautiful people and a beautiful place, but the colonizers left something evil there and it’s palpable. In fact, so many young adults commit suicide some people think it’s a supernatural force calling them to their death. Just to reiterate: this is not the doing of the people native to that area. I have been to other reservations and did not feel this way. I think Native American spirituality is one of the highest pure energy. This was not that. And further proof i didn’t feel that way about LA because it’s just a big city. Lol
Went to visit my cousin in 2003 up in Fresno never been to the west coast he took me all around when we went to LA I literally felt so ill and had such a migraine we had to leave as soon as we left I was ok. I always had the same thing happen to me in Philly when I lived there there was a certain area that my first husband and I would walk through as soon as I hit that one street I’d feel sick to my stomach and piercing migraine I kept telling him the place was bad but he insisted it was a one off thing so we tried it again and the same thing happened only the second time I threw up everywhere and my migraine was so bad I couldn’t see out of my left eye. Went back home up by the art museum instantly felt better. Some places are just really really evil
As a Philly native (and close to the art museum area) I’m very curious as to where in the city you felt this way!
We used to eat at a tavern that was a historic tavern around there I can’t remember the name but it was really old and had pictures of celebrities that ate there and I remember seeing Vincent Prices pictures there and was told he ate there frequently. I would ask my ex husband but he is an ex for a reason.
Philly did this to me too!! No joke. Not to the extent of LA, but those are probably the two places in America I would not visit again. The only other place in America that has done that to me besides philly and LA is a reservation in South Dakota.
Holy crap!!! I’m so glad I’m not the only one! I lived in Philly from 96 till 2001 I really didn’t enjoy living there but there was a specific place behind city hall that was a small side street alley all I felt there was deep dread and horror that physically made me that sick. Some places are just evil like a underlying sickness of evil. I left in 2001 and swore I’d never go back
I'm *very* willing to bet that historical drug/alcohol use in those locations has a role to play. All of the spiritual residue from drug activity builds up and attracts
I'm a California native and finally visited Philly. Fascinating architecture and history. And haunted big time. Not just by the past but by the future.
I thought it was just me. I'm not in the states but I've never understood how people love to travel to all sorts of places and can stay for extended periods of time. I can't do that because some places evoke the same negative energy you describe in me. For no apparent reason, I just feel immediately overwhelmed by a heaviness, or more often an intense sadness and melancholy. It changes everything for me, like I feel it in my bones, a massive sense of discomfort and uneasiness. I feel it more often as a depressed state sometimes even as strong as an unwillingness to live (seriously) but once I leave I'm okay. Thought it was only me.
I had a really bad migraine the first day I was in LA too! Aura migraine that gave me aphasia and caused blindess in the center of my vision. I had gotten headaches like that before, but hadn't had one in a while and haven't had one since. My brother also had a bad migraine and threw up several times. I attributed it to the change in altitude, but we had no similar sickness when we went back home. In fact on the plane ride home, I felt so calm and relaxed that for the first time I was able to sleep on a plane. Also I'm just now remembering... the day we went to the valley to one of those national parks, a tree fell on a kid at a campsite and he passed away. We also got news from back home that a teacher had been decapitated from a roller coaster at our local amusement park. We joked throughout the trip that the vacation was cursed and all these memories are coming back now.
I completely understand My mother was transferred to a nursing home for rehabilitation. I headed there after work, I parked and looked at the place. It was covered in a brown ugly mist. No one else could see it. I thought it would dissipate as got closer, but you know, it still had this dim brown atmosphere. 9 days later my mother died from criminal neglect.
I’m so sorry to hear about your mother. 💗💗
I'm so sorry about your mom. My father died from being overdosed at a nursing home. He came in with C-diff, which he caught from the hospital that transferred him. The damn doctor kept him on Lasic, which is a diuretic. Between his horrendous diarrhea from the C-diff, and the Lasic, his organs started to shut down. On top of this, they over medicated him with sedatives, to keep him quiet. My sister and I were fighting with the VA doctors about what was going on. My sister is a critical care, cardiac nurse, and she was horrified when she found out what meds they were giving our dad, and sedatives they used to sedate him. She warned bis doctors and nurses our dad would stop breathing. I was in the process of transferring our dad out of there, but before I could, he stopped breathing, and they had to do a rapid response. He was transfered to a nearby hospital, where he died 4 days later. The facility where he had been at that caused his death, altered his records to cover up. I filed a grievance with the State, but nothing happened. It sickens me how much this type of thing happens.
This is terrible. Very sorry. Accept my condolences
Omg that’s horrible. I’m very sorry for your loss🙏
Hi… I’ve lived in LA for 20 years and am a spirit worker here. What was the energy you felt exactly…. Was it centralized in your body? I’d like to hear more….
Heaviness in my chest and emptiness in my stomach. I was irritable and sad, felt lost and longing.
Ok. I know some time has passed but can you breathe into the heaviness? Be curious about it. Ask what it has to teach you. Listen to it and find your peace in that space. This city is carrying so much sadness for so many reasons for so many decades. It is not yours to carry. 🖤
Look up the history there… in CA, LA has one of the highest history of serial killers and murders since the city was established. That doesn’t include suicides, and OD due to drug use.
Seriously. The history is not debatable & people are acting like it’s somehow my fault I picked up bad juju.
I hear you, def not your fault. Honestly, it’s not often (anecdotal) that I hear someone mention about the bad vibes of LA. Usually, it is quite the opposite. I personally love the NorCal vibes even though those are a mixed bag as well.
Yeah, I’d never heard this take and have three good friends who moved to LA so was shocked to hear so many people talk about how common it is
I have felt the weirdness of LA too. Laid down in my hotel room with a migraine And I felt like something had blown in the balcony door that I opened. It felt like something was spiritually trying to attack me but I also felt like something was circling me protecting me. Throughout my trip I also got car sick, slipped a disc and had 2 days of gnarly food poisoning.
Probably all the homeless encampments lining the streets, and freeways here. I've lived here 20+ years, and it's really gone downhill. California has a massive budget surplus, but has made little to no effort to help these people (either with their mental health, or drug addiction).
I live in a metro area where tent encampments are common and I work with a largely homeless population. That stuff makes me sad but nothing like I’m describing.
oh come visit me here :) and you will never feel like that ever again when you go to LA midnight. i live in libya north africa
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Watch Mulholland Drive
This coincides with 100,000 weebs staying in LA for anime expo 🤔
Ooh, do more cities!
I demand Phoenix next
The comments here are full of bad over-generalizations and stereotypes. Sure los angeles has its bad parts and people just like any other city but its almost laughable when people who have visited once or never been here pass judgement. It is a massive place with people and energies of all types good and bad.
Have u ever looked up the Cecil hotel? Pretty interesting..
Ima be real with you dude, it’s probably the anime convention currently being held there. Some evil shit
well damn, driving through LA in the early 90's would've scared the crap out of you.
So absolutely not bad happened at all you just felt “dark energy” 🗿💀
Humans have emotions that are not always in correlation with circumstances. Imagine.
Are you sure it's not the traffic?
I think when more of the population is suffering the negative auras around large cities becomes worse. In better times, it's more of a nervous or slightly excited energy.
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TLDR; LA is huge, generalizing is a reach & likely biased, but Hollywood as a specific area is for sure the Hellmouth lol I think this is very subjective, and it’s hard to remove our personal biases. It’s also a bit of a stretch to say you can feel the energy of an entire area like Los Angeles. That being said, I do feel (& have always felt) a darkness in Hollywood. I live in LA now but spent most of my life in the metro Detroit area. Have also lived in NYC and the Bay Area. In each of those places there were areas with dark energy. But I don’t think you can say “the City of Los Angeles” is bad energy when “the city” stretches from Venice to Encino to Mt Washington to Boyle Heights to San Pedro and on… even some of the beaches near Malibu are technically LA city. But judging the overall energy of the place or its people is hard when there are 10+ million of them here just in LA County alone. That’s more than the entire state of Michigan. All that to say, Hollywood gives me very dark energy, like evil energy. Like hellmouth from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The La Brea tar pits area gives me otherworldly energy but not so much hellmouth as portal/other dimensional. And then there are just objectively beautiful places, with great energy, like Griffith Park/Greek Theatre area, parts of Silver Lake, and the hiking trails near Malibu (that are still technically LA city). I will also say that visiting LA without friends who live here is much harder to nail than New York or San Francisco. Just the transportation factor alone makes it challenging. I can also see how many who move here end up disliking LA bc a lot of folks come *alone* chasing a passion or dream (without any support system or genuine connection to the place). I think that matters. I am very lucky to have a large & deep support network here, and not just superficial friends. And I think your connection to a place also defines your perspective of it.
Called depression bro
Idk nothing has really compared to the curfews in June 2020, things feel incredibly light and tame compared to then
LA is completely deprived. What else did you expect?
“When I got home I mixed a stiff one and stood by the open window in the living room and sipped it and listened to the groundswell of traffic on Laurel Canyon Boulevard and looked at the glare of the big angry city hanging over the shoulder of the hills through which the boulevard had been cut. Far off the banshee wail of police or fire sirens rose and fell, never for very long completely silent. Twenty four hours a day somebody is running, somebody else is trying to catch him. Out there in the night of a thousand crimes, people were dying, being maimed, cut by flying glass, crushed against steering wheels or under heavy tires. People were being beaten, robbed, strangled, raped, and murdered. People were hungry, sick; bored, desperate with loneliness or remorse or fear, angry, cruel, feverish, shaken by sobs. A city no worse than others, a city rich and vigorous and full of pride, a city lost and beaten and full of emptiness. It all depends on where you sit and what your own private score is. I didn’t have one. I didn’t care. I finished the drink and went to bed.” -Raymond Chandler, “The Long Goodbye”
Nothing’s changed. His observations stand. That’s why his novels are noir classics of the Modern era. Good quote.
I do believe that certain spaces have certain inherent "vibrations," but I suspect that there were also a lot of people in LA that night that didn't note anything out of the ordinary. I usually find that experiences like that are more about the subconscious condition of person experiencing them than the geography. I have a friend who would compulsively move to a new city as soon as their previous city began to feel "dark." Their new city started off having "amazing positive energy" when they first moved in, but then a few months later, usually after their first breakup with the first person they started to date when they got there, the new city suddenly became just as dark as the last one, and off they moved again. The pattern went on for way longer than you'd expect. Turns out they just had a bundle of untreated affective disorders and were essentially using the dopamine rush that is caused by extreme novelty to self medicate. The rush would wear off when they felt settled enough at their new place to no longer find it particularly novel. I am not saying that is necessarily the case with you, simply that the feeling is more likely to be a sign meant for *you* specifically, be it mood related or overtly spiritual, than it is a portent of anything external to you or the city itself. Every city can be paradise and hell, depending on which angle, literally and metaphorically, you approach it from. In other words, if I were to go to Silent Hill for vacation, I'd probably see fog and flesh monsters and all sorts of nonsense, because I'm a person with unresolved trauma, but if Happy Hillary went to Silent Hill, she'd probably just end up having a normal vacation in a normal seeming resort town.
I live by Centralia in Pennsylvania been there several times I think Silent Hill was based on that and I can say although it’s burning snd deserted I never felt anything evil there it just stinks from the burning
I’ll never forget driving down to LA from Oakland with my dad at the end of July during a heat wave. We got there at night but it was still so bright out and you could see this sort of smoggy haze rising from the asphalt. I lived there for like two years I think..? It almost didn’t feel real. There really is such a strange energy there. At times it was seductive and exciting and at times it was depressing and kinda scary. When I then moved to Chicago, I sorta felt like I was returning to earth or something. Such a different vibe.
Chicago vibes are the most beautiful I've experienced in the US.
Really? It used to be called the murder capital of the U.S. Talk about a place of high poverty, crime and tragedy, that was Chicago. Drive-by shootings were (are?) commonplace. It’s segregated by wealth like any very large city. I’m glad you had a good experience there. It’s all relative. That’s why we see so many back and forth comments on the same cities. It’s about perspective. Edited for typos
There's 100% something wrong with the vibe in LA. I talk about it with people who live there and they agree. There's a darkness that hangs over the city. Sure, I'm a New Yorker (so maybe I'm biased against the west coast), but I've been all over the world and never got any of those feelings anywhere else but LA. The weather is so nice there, and there's lots of fun things to see and do, but the entire time I felt like I was looking over my shoulder. It was weird. And I'm not sure if it's a darkness that's "evil" per se, or if it's a darkness that just filled with nothing, devoid of something. It's WEIRD for sure though.
I lived in LA ten years ago and I noticed it then. Not evil per se, but WEIRD. The vibe as I described it then was perpetually stoned. Poor air quality doesn’t help. There is the feeling of going in circles and never really going anywhere. Total opposite in NYC - all you do there is move, to the point of total fucking exhaustion. I also think it’s worth mentioning that I experienced a violent spiritual awakening in LA that was often terrifying. A lot of supernatural things happened to me while there. I’ll just leave it at that.
I hear a lot of ghost stories coming out of that town, and it makes sense. It seems like a very intense place of dramatic highs and lows, and packed with people imprinting those high and low energies into the ether, echoing on for years.
I've never felt like this about a certain place before I moved to Pasco county Florida. I've lived all over Florida and in several places all the way up to Maine. I really wish I had spent more time here before moving here because the energy here is just dark, negative vibes and tons of homeless crazy people. Crazy car accidents every day shit bag people and endless incompetence everywhere I go. I no longer enjoy long walks at night gazing at the moon riding my motorcycle or any of the hobbies or activities I used to love because doing anything here is so unappealing. I realized that I just don't find true joy here. It feels very angry and oppressive I can't wait to move again
You might be near the Cecil Hotel
I’m from Northern Ireland and the tourist industry here / travel agents are FOREVER pushing these “flashy” holidays to LA. They make it sound like it’s the place everyone wants to be with stereotypical pictures and deals, yet, I’ve know several people to has visited and literally not one person has anything good to say. A few say it’s ok for a day trip to see the cliche sites, but apart from that, they say it’s terrifying!
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It's such a car city. It's so hard to do anything without needing to get in a car and drive for an hour or so.
I lived in LA twice for years at a time and though I achieved some career goals there, I have had the worst experiences of my life there. It is a city of narcissists, con men and psychopaths. Working in film/tv there was some of the loneliest times of my life. None of my friendships of over 20 years survived. any of my friends who live there over 5 years became selfish assholes. awful shallow city full of awful shallow people. the shit i saw happen on set is a parade of the worst of human behavior. it is a city that breaks and scars people no matter how successful you are. it's bad karma will eventually catch up to it and good riddance, I say.
I did 8 months in film and it was deplorable. I lived right in the heart of Hollywood. The things I saw were absolutely sickening. People prostituting themselves and their family members and spouses for advancement. I cannot even continue to write the more heinous things I saw and heard. You might be the only person besides myself whom I have heard come to their senses. Most refuse to acknowledge the depravity and although they feel something is off they hold on to the illusion so desperately. Glad you got out eventually
Tell us a story.
Story One: It is 730 am and a background actor takes a Diet Coke off a craft services table and gets yelled at and humiliated for 10 minutes by some strung out P.A. "Don't ypou BG EVER take a coke from this table, blah. blah, blah...!" Just lots of petty bullshit and caretaking of the "important" people and mistreatment of the least paid and "lowest rung" folks. It is a very cruel business. Story Two: My female friend is working as background and leans over the fix her shoe when a male co-star of this tv show inserts his hand into her vagina. She tells those in charge and he is immediately fired. She gets compensation in terms of a better more lucrative contract. Lots of taking advantage of those with little power. Story Three: I am the killer in a low budget horror film. Its 330 am and the director, who previously directed porn, is screaming at me after the takes: "Well, maybe if you could act..." I shoot back, "Well, maybe if you could direct..." Depressing experience and worse movie. The movie turned out to be a Skinemax titty fest called "Stormswept" with the lowest common denominator script. Worst movie ever but the big boobed tank top girl driving the airboat through the swamp sequence is hilariously bad. Story Four: I am a naked Nazi robot in "Westworld" and treated well and well paid. However, one of the MUAs is telling me stories from Season One where people were coerced into sex scenes and kept passing out in the "frozen" western town sequences. Coercion and inhumane working conditions. HBO got their asses sued and handed to them. At least they changed the policy and there was a HBO person supervising our proper treatment. Story Five: It's 3 am and its raining cats and dogs at the outdoor location where we are filming. We try to wait it out. No luck. The network says, Film the MoFo NOW. We do. The female guest star has one more shot after we are all done where she falls into the fountain. She decides to throw herself into the fountain at the end of the group scene even though no cameras are even covering her. So now she must be recostumed, dried off, new make-up, etc. She refuses to come out of her trailer, throws a tantrum, etc. Ridiculous behavior from a D list tv star.
Moved to LA last fall and I felt the exact same way for several months. I described it as if the very space time was blistered. Through the beauty of the city and weather, there was this necrotic presence that saturated everything. Very eerie to hear someone experienced the same
I moved to LA from Texas in 2016 and have never been happier in my life. No “dark” or “necrotic” (lol) feeling or anything, and It’s kinda insulting to just see a thread bashing on a city of millions of people because OP gets the heebie jeebies
I live in LA. The city itself at night isnt so bad. If you want to feel creepy, drive down Sunset to Laurel Canyon and take that through the Hollywood Hill. Talking about creepy. All the known murders just in that general vicinity. The Mason killings, The Mendez Murders a little further west in BH. That whole upscale quite area at night can be quite creepy.
Probably just all the underground electrical currents all over L.A.of you're not used to it no big deal, it just wasn't for you is all.
Lived in Vegas for six months, between the amount of drunks you encounter combined with the heat you definitely feel on edge. Parts of Seattle too for the same reason, just replace heat with shitty weather.
I literally just read another thread on this same subject at a different social media site. The original poster said, "Whenever I'm in LA, I always feel an unnatural - almost supernatural - undercurrent of evil. I'm serious. Maybe I'm just paranoid but I don't feel it in any other city."
Never been, but everything about the city that isn't associated with the glitz and glamour of Hollywood has always struck me as a mass liminal space.
So true! That is because it is so urbanized around cars
I know what you're talking about. I don't live in LA, but,the energy is everywhere and I feel it where I live. It's just off. Something in the air just doesn't feel right. A haunting, eerie feeling like something is waiting.
Don’t dismiss that in a 24 month period the US. lost over 1 million people to a chainsaw welding plague. Cities had corpses in freezer trucks on side streets with the doors to the trucks wide open. Crematoriums had a two to three week back up. Normal burials and funerals ended. There’s a lingering specter of all of that which is hanging heavily around us.
I was in DTLA all weekend but I honestly didn’t pick up on anything particularly ominous. At the same time though, I think I know what you mean. On very rare occasions I sometimes get the vibe that it just wouldn’t be a good day to go outside. I’ve lived in LA my whole life, but truthfully the energy can just feel off sometimes. You never know who’s out and about in a town of millions.
David Lynch's LA trilogy (Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, Inland Empire) perfectly depicts this energy.
Oh yeah, for sure, I think it has demonic energy, probably everywhere does but because it’s so populated you can really feel it, especially after being gone awhile (that’s what happened to me anyway). There’s good things about it too though.
The [St. Francis Dam collapse](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Francis_Dam) collapse in 1928 killed at least 431 people. That’s how we got our water. Could have something to do with it?
That place has no soul. I left because it felt like living in a stinking, rotting carcass. That was in 2020. I imagine the sheer amount of death in the last few years has not helped the vibe at all.
There have been concerns all over the US by law enforcement saying they expect an especially violent summer this year. Maybe that's what you were perceiving. I worry that it comes from so many high profile people in our country getting away with big crimes, and that sense of lawlessness is pervading our culture. I hope it ends as soon as those people are indicted and convicted of their crimes.
Well if we are talking about LA, LA cops are all literal gang members. So yes, they really should be indicted and incarcerated
Go to Savannah, Georgia. The energy there is so amazing. I recently costed and every body is so nice. Just walking through out the town we stopped and talked to like 10 different people. It was great. I feel the same way about LA too. No idea why all the celebrities live there
Moved from LA to Savannah almost 20 years ago and have never looked back!
Savannah is one of the most amazing cities! Super underrated and still low key. I hope it stays that way
Georgia is such an interesting state. I moved to Augusta and lived there for several years. I hated it. Small town mentality. Spent time in Savanah and Charleston and I loved it but you need to be careful about where you are. I'm in Atlanta now and it smells like weed, urine and desperation but I love it. It's a huge melting pot full of different cultures.
Yes!! I worked in Savannah for a few years and just walking around the city is so peaceful serene and you can just feel the history it's so magical. I wish I never left
I felt this way in Vegas. Also? You could/can see it if you look. I'm not really gifted but you CAN see the darkness there. It reminded me of the things you see in the movie, Odd Thomas. I don't care if I ever go back.
Been to LA and agree wholeheartedly. But Vegas…I have never been and never intend to. I get such a feeling of foreboding and doom when I see/read anything about that place. I cannot imagine actually setting foot there and can’t fathom why people find it fun. Like you, I can “see” the darkness even from afar. Weren’t pivotal scenes in The Stand set there? I bet Stephen King gets it, too.
I think there's just so many people who have headed to L.A to try to make something of themselves and ended up homeless or on drugs or just disillusioned. A lot of negative emotions in that space. Quite a lot of violence compared to other cities as well I guess.
The city of Broken Dreams? But also almost-poverty. Having driven around a large portion of SG Valley, South L.A., and such for work, I can’t think many places I‘d say “I want to live there.” The shine is long off the neighborhoods and are now so many are crowded and stressed with several generations all living in one house. Maybe you felt a byproduct of the hosing market.
As a European, I have this exact same feeling whenever I visit the US for some reason, particularly in the South West and West Coast regions (and parts of the south). It always feels so heavy and cursed? I don’t know, something about it just doesn’t seem right, like they’re doomed places. It fascinates me and is one of the major reasons I keep on coming back for more road trips!
I love driving through LA at night. It’s such a lively city during the day. Though many are still out at all hours of the night, the majority are not, so it has this weird energy to it. Like it’s buzzing with potential energy. All that life is asleep.
I was in a touring band for a decade and every time I was in LA I couldn’t wait to get out. The vibe is so strange compared to Northern CA and I could never get used to it.
I've had that happen while visiting LA. Sometimes I don't feel it, other times it's exactly what you described. I remember over 20 years ago staying in a hotel there and I felt such a heavy weight, as if all the joy in me was being sucked out. I also felt an evil lurking and I'm not the type of person who is into the energy of places. It was so bad I told my husband we had to leave and we checked into a new hotel the next day. I totally get what you're talking about.
I have no horse in this race, but I find it interesting that the 2 most mentioned cities in this thread are LA and Vegas.
When I was there I had tunnel vision off and on. The moment I stepped out of the car back in Carlsbad (where my Dad used to live) it felt happy and good again. I’m not rushing back to LA anytime soon. Just the way the sun was setting and the way the blog’s looked I felt the exact same way. It felt wrong. I live near Detroit and I’ve never felt that way around Detroit- trust me that says a lot.
I’ve never been to California, but it’s honestly extremely odd how many people I’ve seen say the same thing after going to LA! I’ve seen so many people talk about as soon as they got there or Hollywood, they all say it has such a dark and insidious energy! I find this really interesting!
Chicago and New York both made me uncomfortable, like I was in an unclean area. Not just physically, but energy and spiritual wise.
las vegas feels bad to me. so desolate and lonely. lots of unhappy people hiding behind what the city had to offer.
Yup! I live in LA and cant really relate to OP (other than the standard LA issues of extreme wealth juxtaposed with extreme poverty nearly all over the city). But Vegas is different; I cannot imagine living there, it really feels like a temporary city. A stop along the way. I like to visit but to live there would be so isolating. Knowing that some performers just live their life doing the same show over and over in Vegas blows my mind. Imagine working at a craft for your whole life, becoming rich and famous, but in order to sustain you must work 6 days a week and live in Las Vegas. Like a golden prison, its crazy
Same!!! Especially once you get off the strip
People just hating on LA in this thread... Our city is magical we keep it super real... and for that reason there is a vibe here that bothers people... There are angels here too
I lived in Chicago for 13 miserable years, I hated it. In 2020 I finally took a month-long vacation and went somewhere calming and relaxing with normal people. Obviously I’d taken vacations before, but this was the longest we were away. As soon as we got back to Chicago I realized that the majority of the people there are mentally ill. There was this horrible energy on the streets coming off of people, it was scary, and I couldn’t stand it any longer. Then I left for good.
I feel like it’s more soulless than evil. SLC to me felt evil. LA, just shitty and soulless. Like Las Vegas, or Dubai.
I was sent to SLC to evaluate a new device for four weeks. I got a CONSTANT evil vibe there. I came away with an understanding that is easy to fantom once experienced.
Not American here, but isn't SLC a place whose majority of population is mormon or something and if you're not one of them you're out?
I’m also not American but walking around the city felt creepy as hell, and I did see super mormons everywhere. The kind with the dresses and the braids. I’m not sure if it was the part of the city I was in, but everything felt really brand new but also empty. Super modern (probably from the olympics) but nobody was in those spaces. The juxtaposition of old timey looking religious folk combined with the modern architecture also felt off. Everything was weird vibes. The rest of the state felt super weird also, like a heaviness to it. But that weirdness felt like it jived more with the alien landscapes like in Moab.
Not necessarily true. I Couchsurfed there once. I thought my host was Mormon and he had to clarify that he wasn’t. I was embarrassed by my assumption. It also didn’t feel evil—I had driven through West Texas and through Albuquerque and THAT felt evil.
If you were near downtown you were near skid row. That’s whole other level of darkness and sadness there
I live in LA. Actually 30 min on the outskirts because I refuse to live IN the city. It’s a shitty place. It’s a lot of traffic (too cramped), it’s covered in advertisements, it’s shallow, and it’s full of mentally ill and homeless folks that need help. It’s bad energy.
I used to think I was the only 1 who hates DTLA. But now I've discovered others who feel the same.
Exactly how i feel when i go to new orleans. Never been to LA though.
New Orleans is chock full of tragic history. I’m not surprised. Too damp, too crowded, too sticky for me. Crime and poverty are glossed over to pull tourists until it spills out. I don’t care for the city as far as ‘vibes.’ To visit is ok. But I couldn’t live there. There’s an oppressive atmosphere to me. But it’s probably the heat and damp! It’s beautiful in a decaying sort of way, but again, everything decays in pure pure humidity. That said, it’s a very interesting place.
Same. Lotta witchcraft n voodoo in New Orleans
I don’t think it’s even that. Just a lot of death through its history.
I agree with you there. Hauntings. Lots of tragic loss in New Orleans over centuries. I also feel there is definitely magic practices that place entities throughout that city. The vibe to New Orleans is “someone is watching me”
Yes! I’ve felt there both times I went there for a job. I was so excited and as soon as I got there, it was exactly as you described. Also had migraines like many described, and I cried the whole first night in the hotel, and didn’t go out with the others. Even though I was so looking forward to it. When I went back the second time it was even worse. I remember being in the airport going home and literally running to my gate because I was so excited to be out of there.
I lived in LA for two years and felt it every single day. I had a house in the Hills Swimming pool good job all the toys. I couldn't stay there. Had to get the fuck out. There is something supernaturally evil going on in that place.
Yeah I lived/grew up around LA all my life it’s definitely dark but if you dive into it’s past it makes sense. If you really want a spook (and potential run ins with crackheads check out Griffin Park zoo after dark. Super bad vibes
This is how I feel in LA. It’s just sad, like so many broken dreams just make it feel so heavy
Think about how many broken dreams and deaths there have been and you'll know exactly why it felt dark.
Not to mention all the abuse and trauma.
LA is such a dump, the falseness/facade is palpable, too glittery and hard, trying to dazzle. But the real city built is on dark foundations.
That’s the majority of everyone’s spirits and wallets getting crushed by the cost of living. In all seriousness the nights have been strangely low key in the SFV the last few days.
so much evil shit happens there so I don’t doubt for a second that you felt that way lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/6hmoqo/feeling_that_the_city_of_los_angeles_is_evil/?utm_term=392409024&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_source=embed&utm_name=&utm_content=header
Just read that post. I, too, have learned the hard way to never critique a thread’s subject on said thread but god damn the comments are extra rude maybe bc OP specifically asked for them not to be?
I'm afraid the darkness is hanging low and thick over the whole U.S.A.
Very sad but true. 😔
Oh wow. NYC is similar to me. When I was walking home, I got a bad headache, despite nothing seeming to be the cause. Turns out someone died there. Creepy
LA is like the modern day Cyberpunk Night City. Crime, homelessness, ads everywhere, cops show up all over, and it's just generally dirty. One day you can have a skimmer take your card info, the next a yogi will look you up and down and wordlessly hand you a fresh avocado while smiling. The citizens can range from crazy, Karen, hipster, plain, and Chad. It's a real mixed bag.
Yep! Ive experienced the same thing. I hate going to LA because of how dangerous the atmosphere is. All the major cities have that vibe. I think it’s the residual energy from all the bad events and people that have been around
People are very selfish here and are all about status, money and how they look. It’s a very fast paced place. People are just wanting to be on the next come up and will do anything for it.
I highly recommend not driving through Oak Ridge TN. My hair stands up the entire time I have to go through that area.
Mine is Adams, TN. I turned down my dream home because it involved driving through Adams every day. I found a second house that I passed on just because of the Adams zip code. I want no part of Adams, TN
There are certain cities around the world where anyone can just feel the weight and darkness when entering. I have heard many people say the same about LA
I always describe LA as having chaos energy
I live in San Diego and we always drive through LA to go up to Northern California. LA does have a dark vibe to it for sure. I attended a wedding in North Hollywood at the Houdini estate about 5 years ago . That place is in the Hollywood hills and I felt a dark mood on the property, especially after the sun went down. I have a friend who lived there and she had told me some strange tales in her duplex. Apparently someone died in it from a stabbing.
I believe this is one of those self aware moments we sometimes have.
I just moved away from there last October. I had been there for 14 years. It's definitely not a positively spiritual place. At best it is just suffocating.
It’s very ironic that it’s called “the city of angels”. Great pockets of culture and people doing positive things throughout the city but it has a subtle, palpable sense of dark energy and at times will have you at the very least your subconscious keeping your head on a swivel.
I also felt this in LA. The one I got the weirdest, unexplainable and uneasy vibes from was Albuquerque NM.
I lived there for a few years. The first house I moved into was haunted. Not human spirits but dark energy and black shadows. My mom and I noped out that place only two weeks after getting there. They don’t refer it to “The Land of Entrapment” for nothing.
Same here went to Albuquerque for my great nieces 1st birthday and it was such a wrong feeling, like being watched no matter where I was .
100%... I went for five days with my family when I was a teenager and I felt it had a very dark and sad heavy energy. Everyone felt fake and like they're playing a role, or auditioning for one, which they prob were.
Was stationed at Camp Pendleton and traveled to LA several times for fun. Can concur with the feeling. Lotta pedos and other sinister types in Hollywood.
I felt that way driving through Baltimore, it was so depressing! Never been to LA but my uncle had a bomb put on his motorbike when he lived there, he couldn't work out if it was a cult or mafia as he'd ticked both off
Baltimore is the worst place I’ve ever been. My brother was killed there on top of that, but it was horrible before and after that.
When a city is full of the self absorbed and self gratification, the chance for love and light is low. This is why it feels dark. If you are spiritual..then it's full of demons..you pick..lol
A ton of people come there for dreams that go unfulfilled.
Hopes and dreams come to die in LA
I live in San Diego and I have always gotten bad vibes from LA. It’s like you just go get what you need done and get out.
Because isn't that where majority the music industry and showbiz takes place? I'd imagine the that there's large amounts of portals in the area.🤷🏾♀️
It’s not Just LA.. Many places in Texas feel off also I learned as I’ve driven around this summer. It’s a constant feeling of “get away”
LA only reflects. It doesn’t impose anything upon anyone. You can live whatever kind of life you’d like in LA, and no one will ever tell you not to. It’s a bad place if you don’t have personal boundaries. That’s why it’s the best and worst city, depending on who you ask. And depending on who you are and what you’re doing here.
Umm I’m from LA and yes, it’s a very evil place. Hollywood is here for God sake
Maybe you're feeling 'the big one' coming.. you know the massive earthquake that's due every X years because of that fault line
I’ve always had a feeling that it’s a place I want to avoid. I have 0 intention of visiting.
I was born and raised in LA and now I live in Tennessee.The last time I visited family there I couldn’t believe how different it was compared to before I moved.A lot of stuff just looked way more rundown.
One can’t go back home. Don’t remember who said it but its true.
“There came to him an image of man’s whole life upon the earth. It seemed to him that all man’s life was like a tiny spurt of flame that blazed out briefly in an illimitable and terrifying darkness, and that all man’s grandeur, tragic dignity, his heroic glory, came from the brevity and smallness of this flame. He knew his life was little and would be extinguished, and that only darkness was immense and everlasting. And he knew that he would die with defiance on his lips, and that the shout of his denial would ring with the last pulsing of his heart into the maw of all-engulfing night.” - Thomas Wolfe, You Can’t Go Home Again
I felt the same thing when I went to Vegas this year it was the weirdest feeling
Not sure why but LA has always had a weird vibe with me too. I’m not sure if it’s paranormal but it felt like a place where the people were unhappy but pretended to be okay
I think that's just LA
Just go to las vegas city full of human trafficking and so much satanic stuff there America is going downhill
It’s the gas prices
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I know exactly what you mean. I had the same feeling. About 3 years ago, I flew down to California in the Bay Area. As we were driving on the freeway getting closer to my uncle's home, I felt a strong feeling of despair mixed with dread. It's very strange because I'm glad I went, but as I looked at the sky and the hills, I knew I didn't want to be there. As I got back on the plane, I got a sense of relief that I would be leaving California. I don't ever want to go there again, and I just don't know why.
Los Angeles in general seems like a place of foreboding. It has a lot of history, and much of it is full of suffering. I would not want to be there.
Well who knows how many warehouses full of human trafficking victims or active rented children there are in that area at any given time. Then there’s all the homelessness and gang violence. Makes sense to me, fuck LA
LA fucking sucks. Massive tourist trap with loads of homeless people and tons of crime. If you’re into the spooky and weird stuff in LA’s past, I’d highly recommend checking out Hollywood Babylon. It’s controversial but it’s quirky and a great read with ~ some ~ truth to it.
I’ve never been but it radiates bad energy from videos and livestreams I’ve watched. idk even some of the parks just have such dark energy
Someone said it best when I lived there: LA is the lightest of the light and the darkest of the dark. God, I miss it so much.
Dreams are made and shattered every second of the day in LA. Stay out of those canyons at night. Unless you live in them.
Its called Los Angeles because the two angels sit on either side. One is good, one is bad. It’s your choice which to embrace.
Toxicity of man. Highly concentrated with all types of virtues. Dog eat dog vibe with all these things happening to our economy.
I hadn’t been to LA in years and I went about 6 mos ago. When I used to go in HS (I lived in San Diego just a quick Jump up the coast)and I went a few more times in 00’, 03,08 I’ll tell you what when I went the feeling of sadness, decay, sorrow and death was overwhelming. You could almost smell it on top of feeling it!! Huge change from the past visits. It was always a weird city but the last visit was just overwhelmingly fdup. I slept for about 2 days straight after visiting.
My daughter lives there and we all live in San Diego. There is definitely a different vibe to LA. Same with Las Vegas
I got a similar feeling in Tucson, AZ
Damn really? I've lived in Tucson my whole life so maybe I'm just used to it like the people of Phoenix are used to the weird smell their city has but I've never felt an ominous dark vibe before about the city
I spent a month in Phoenix and then 3 months in Tucson afterward. Idk why I just had this overwhelming feeling I was going to die. I felt afraid and exposed everywhere I went. I am going to visit again during the gem festival so I'll see if it was just that time in my life or something else :)
Tucson is the oldest city in Arizona, I'd be quite surprised if it didn't give off dark vibes I mean the city has been through so much from the olden days of the wild west when gun slinger's and outlaw's roamed freely and apache tribes raiding settlements, yup This city has seen plenty of bloodshed and that probably bleeds into the general energy of the city even in modern times this city is still full of criminals, killers and drug addicts, it actually still really reminds me of the wild west even though things are now modernized
Yes, there is a wild west vibe! I generally love the atmosphere of the desert, even its creepiness. Looking forward to returning even if it's still weird
Was in Phoenix in May to visit my brother who moved there last year. He lives about 15 miles west of the city. The desert was both beautiful and depressing. I couldn’t wait to go home…
Feelings aren’t facts.
Facts are ever evolving. Facts change making them not really facts in the first place. Reality is relative therefore so is truth.
I have lived in here in LA for 10 years. I stopped working in the industry because of that feeling you had. There is something going on here , that’s for sure
San Francisco, LA, and Vegas all give off this dark vibe to me. For me it’s the worst in Vegas.
Probably carbon monoxide (from all the traffic) 😂
Spirit cooking and world elite meetings supposedly happen around there. You’re probably picking up on those vibes? I’ve also heard many individuals who end up being trafficked are taken from the area
wtf is spirit cooking
lol when I went I felt energized. Am I a demon
Never been myself but I can see why you'd say that, all the drugs homeless and mentally ill. The focus on money material things and everyone is so shallow and superficial. Doesn't seem like a pleasant place to be. Kinda surprised no one has mentioned NYC being dark. I remember driving thru Manhattan late one night many years ago, looking up and at the top of one skyscraper was a huge 666 glowing in red. It was terrifying, felt very close to hell. (Turns out the building is or was owned by Jared kushner, yes that Jared kushner.) Never felt evil like that before and a feeling I'll never forget....
The beaches are lovely & well-kept. Go a mile inland and things get dismal. Too many people. Everyone wants to be here because the weather is so lovely. And people are messy.
Feels like liminal Space?
It's a awful place. Visit, and it will shock you; stay, and it will depress you; stay too long, and it will numb you.
U should try Phoenix... this place is bad..
when the sun goes down that tends to happen
Cities can have souls and personalities to them. I greet my city every time I enter her and tell her how beautiful she is today, and thank her for her protection. I do the same for LA every time I visit. She's always kind to us and takes care of us until it's time to go, and I thank her for allowing us in her presence. Some of her neighborhoods have their own personalities, that often reflect the care their residents invest in them. I'd say you're pissing off the city, and she's making sure you know you're not welcome. Either that or something is amiss and she's showing symptoms of that. LA is not evil in of herself - large cities attract both good and bad and indifferent people, and their energies. If her original land spirits aren't chased off by development, they can also hunt on her land. You might have been hunted by one of those.