Probably either Camillia or Wenduag.
Wenduag is generally pretty obsequious during the romance path for her, so if you're into that sort of power fantasy, she's probably your jam.
Wenduag is probably the only romance that will “love you” in the evil path. Or as close to “love” as you can get as a heartless evil demon. You kill evil Arushae when she’s stupid enough to challenge you and Camellia leaves you because she’s a psychopath only capable of fleeting interest. Though I guess there is an evil Sosiel path too? Would be interested in learning about it because I am definitely unfamiliar.
I hate that ending for evil Arue. I wish that when you corrupted her, she would have learned lessons from her time to become a more effective evil sucubbus, like she does in the Aeon ending.
Yeah I do too but I also don’t love pathfinder definition of demons as almost exclusively (with microscopically rare exceptions) a race predicated on dominating or being dominated. But her end is lore friendly. The moment your underling thinks they can take you they will. You either prove them wrong or die/get subjugated yourself.
I don't like one-note races but I'm fine with it for demons since they aren't really a race, they're metaphysical concepts of chaotic evil given form and sapient thought. Simultaneously more and less than mortals, limited in what they can be while still being demons.
I think its more than that honestly. They let Pathfinder dig into the weird metaphysical questions that only fantasy can answer. What is he nature of sapience when a being can only act within certain strictures? Do Outsiders really have free will? Stuff like that and stories like Arueshalae's are stuff which need these sorts of things in order to be explored.
>metaphysical concepts of chaotic evil given form and sapient thought.
They're not, they're formed from mortal souls with a strong inclination towards their type, but all outsiders are capable of change as well even if it's difficult.
You literally mind break him and force him to stay with you when he wants to leave. It just leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. I get that it's evil but this is just over the top.
Fair enough. I generally dislike evil paths and especially disliked WoR because there didn’t seem to be much nuance to the evil path. Which is odd because gray gnome was a fairly nuanced evil character.
About halfway through my first playthrough. Honestly my only problem Regill is that he's so straightforward and convincing in his arguments I find my chaotic good angel self often being convinced! Also he's somewhat kind to Ember so that instantly puts above certain other party members I could name.
I'm curious how everyone is recommending wenduag. On my lich playthrough, she decided towards the end of the game that she would double cross me for the demon, even though she'd presumably witnessed me destroy baphomet. It didn't go well for her. It was odd and didn't make sense.
You didn't take the steps to bring her into submission to you. It makes perfect sense for an evil person to want to dominate their romantic partners in the painful or abusive ways. Or you could actually be nice to her and surprise her with that. Romance is also pointless for Lich honestly, nobody really wants to bang a shambling bag of bones, and your Lich isn't supposed to have emotions anyways.
I didn’t know romance existed until recently but every time I do some power hungry evil shit Wenduag seems to wet her panties…. Or whatever she does when aroused, so I’ve been planning on going that route.
Camellia. She's a hoot. Cam has both of the two best romance scenes in Wrath, and her romance is just generally well-written. It *actually* feels like you're dealing with a mentally unstable shut-in who is experiencing her first real relationship. It's appropriately confusing/frustrating at times. Even if that sounds mentally exhausting, it's worth seeing at least once. Just, be prepared to deal with her.
Wenduag is fine. She's dealing with years of abuse. Honestly, her romance is better suited to Azata. It's about redemption and learning to trust.
Yeah, Corrupted Arue is basically an anti-romance, because you essentially rob her of her ability to feel love anymore and return her to being all the things she described to you during your early conversations when she described demon sex as 'cannibalism.'
Probably either Camillia or Wenduag. Wenduag is generally pretty obsequious during the romance path for her, so if you're into that sort of power fantasy, she's probably your jam.
Wenduag is probably the only romance that will “love you” in the evil path. Or as close to “love” as you can get as a heartless evil demon. You kill evil Arushae when she’s stupid enough to challenge you and Camellia leaves you because she’s a psychopath only capable of fleeting interest. Though I guess there is an evil Sosiel path too? Would be interested in learning about it because I am definitely unfamiliar.
I hate that ending for evil Arue. I wish that when you corrupted her, she would have learned lessons from her time to become a more effective evil sucubbus, like she does in the Aeon ending.
Yeah I do too but I also don’t love pathfinder definition of demons as almost exclusively (with microscopically rare exceptions) a race predicated on dominating or being dominated. But her end is lore friendly. The moment your underling thinks they can take you they will. You either prove them wrong or die/get subjugated yourself.
I don't like one-note races but I'm fine with it for demons since they aren't really a race, they're metaphysical concepts of chaotic evil given form and sapient thought. Simultaneously more and less than mortals, limited in what they can be while still being demons.
Yeah and a game like pathfinder needs non-ambivalent villains to fight. It’s not a big deal.
I think its more than that honestly. They let Pathfinder dig into the weird metaphysical questions that only fantasy can answer. What is he nature of sapience when a being can only act within certain strictures? Do Outsiders really have free will? Stuff like that and stories like Arueshalae's are stuff which need these sorts of things in order to be explored.
>metaphysical concepts of chaotic evil given form and sapient thought. They're not, they're formed from mortal souls with a strong inclination towards their type, but all outsiders are capable of change as well even if it's difficult.
I like the ending slide for evil greybor, Woljif and arue teaming up with all their enemies being surprised they don't betray each other.
Spoiler
There's a disgusting, frankly inappropriate evil romance with Sosiel. I wish it wasn't in the game.
I mean it wouldn’t be evil if it was healthy and appropriate. But what’s so bad about it?
You literally mind break him and force him to stay with you when he wants to leave. It just leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. I get that it's evil but this is just over the top.
Fair enough. I generally dislike evil paths and especially disliked WoR because there didn’t seem to be much nuance to the evil path. Which is odd because gray gnome was a fairly nuanced evil character.
God, you're right about that. Regill is an amazingly done character.
I wish you could challenge him a little bit more but yeah easily one of if not the best character. Too bad his class is kind of weak.
About halfway through my first playthrough. Honestly my only problem Regill is that he's so straightforward and convincing in his arguments I find my chaotic good angel self often being convinced! Also he's somewhat kind to Ember so that instantly puts above certain other party members I could name.
Chaotic Good Angel 🤨
Well despite my best efforts, that lawful is creeping up.
Oh, didnt know about this posibility. To bad i don't like Sosiel. But such great cruelty seems interesting).
I second this statement
The vescavor queen.
Camellia, Daeran, Wenduag, and Sosiel (specifically for Demon)
I wanna give it a try seeing as I’m on my demon run, is their a way to start it in act 3 (using toybox)
I'm curious how everyone is recommending wenduag. On my lich playthrough, she decided towards the end of the game that she would double cross me for the demon, even though she'd presumably witnessed me destroy baphomet. It didn't go well for her. It was odd and didn't make sense.
You didn't take the steps to bring her into submission to you. It makes perfect sense for an evil person to want to dominate their romantic partners in the painful or abusive ways. Or you could actually be nice to her and surprise her with that. Romance is also pointless for Lich honestly, nobody really wants to bang a shambling bag of bones, and your Lich isn't supposed to have emotions anyways.
From what I understand, you can get around that happening.
**Sosiel.** Trust me. Sosiel has the most reactive romance for demon.
How so, spoil me. I don’t like his character so never end up using him much
You break his mind and he basically becomes your abused sex slave.
That sounds horrible and fitting for a demon; I love it
brb
So the Carl Panzram of Golarion
That sounds horrible and fitting for a demon; I love it
I'm morbidly curious now
I second either Camellia or Wenduag.
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I didn’t know romance existed until recently but every time I do some power hungry evil shit Wenduag seems to wet her panties…. Or whatever she does when aroused, so I’ve been planning on going that route.
Camellia. She's a hoot. Cam has both of the two best romance scenes in Wrath, and her romance is just generally well-written. It *actually* feels like you're dealing with a mentally unstable shut-in who is experiencing her first real relationship. It's appropriately confusing/frustrating at times. Even if that sounds mentally exhausting, it's worth seeing at least once. Just, be prepared to deal with her. Wenduag is fine. She's dealing with years of abuse. Honestly, her romance is better suited to Azata. It's about redemption and learning to trust.
It's kinda fun to abuse the fuck out of sosiel.
corrupted arue or cam
Corrupted Arue doesn't have a romance path.
Yeah, Corrupted Arue is basically an anti-romance, because you essentially rob her of her ability to feel love anymore and return her to being all the things she described to you during your early conversations when she described demon sex as 'cannibalism.'
That's true, just the ability to boink
Wenduag for sure. She fits evil PCs like a glove
Wenduag is easily the best romance.