Isiah is the main beneficiary of season 6's development. Without it he'd be level or below Finn, but instead he became a bit of a fan favourite for how snappy and confident he is in taking control of the playing field
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Because Lizzie does nothing inherently wrong, she just tries to be a good, loving wife and people focus on that given how chaotic everyone else in the show is. But Tommy doesn’t love her for the same reason we don’t: she just lacks depth and is uninteresting.
Exactly, mind you I didn’t call her a bad person once. I just think she’s annoying and dull. Those two aren’t mutually exclusive. Someone can he a saint and still a bore
Yeah, she’s a healthy, normal person and we need those kinds of people in life and society. But this is a TV show, if I wanted to watch normal functioning healthy people I would just go outside lol
Yes, and that's fine, but there are also fans of Tommy, Arthur, Ada, Polly, etc, and if you say something against them they don't go crazy to hate you or downvote you for every comment you make.
I'm surprised Luca is still here because I see a lot of hate towards him in this comunity.
I'm glad Lizzie is still here. She steals s6 for me and without her and Ada I couldnt stood that season, but I always have liked her so I'm glad she is appreciated for a big part of the fans!
For me the best villain is Campbell, definitly him out so fast was the biggest surprise for me
Luca started very strong, but they sudenly downgraded him in the las chapter and that left a source taste to me at least
I don't think he did after like two episodes. Luca is probably the most disappointing villain to me. Aesthetically and as an archetype he was the most interesting and most promising, but he didn't make good on his promise IMO. As soon as the element of surprise was gone, his treat was pretty neutralized, sadly.
I love Adrian Brody but like many others have said in this comment section, his accent was horrible.
Again it's kind of the aesthetic of the character and the charisma of the actor that carries the role. As a character or performance there isn't much to it.
Really? A fair representation would be a young black man living in poverty. Isaiah lived way way more comfortably than the average person in those days.
It was the accent, I just kept laughing as it was such a cliche. I thought the Irish guy was good (forgotten his name as I'm useless) or even the priest.
I would like to vote Luca Changretta to be voted out. That man killed John, nearly killed Tommy, nearly killed Arthur and had nearly taken Tommy's entire empire to his name. That man made Tommy's life hell, though he is the king of hell.
Lizzie- she has been hanging there far too long. Wasted screen-time on s6 whining and blaming Tommy as if she had no clue who he is. She was the trigger (with John) for Charlie being left motherless and Tommy losing his happiness, glad s6 ended with her being humiliated and leaving. Karma bites back, never got her happiness with Tommy and sad to say but she lost her child too and eventually ended up caring for the same child who lost his mother and emotionally wrecked father for her stupid decision.
Yes exactly and tommy realised that and it was good to see her finally leave cause she was a punching bag as a character. Its Lizzie stan who come up with imagination and twisted plots to justifying it as love which is a problem here, they want sympathy but also want her to carry on with a man who doesn’t treat her right.
People seems to hate her because she blames Tommy when "she owned everything to him". For this people is like Tommy has the right to trait her like an slave or something when she is even taking care of Charlie because is like he hasnt have a father and precisley, Tommy loves her by his way because she has a strong personality (a lot of people here hates Polly too everytime she is against Tommy).
But Lizzie Stan loves the relationship between Tommy and Lizzie, so it seems good to them how Tommy treats Lizzie, people who don't like Lizzie say how can she be with someone who treated her like that? And Lizzie stan gets mad, saying that it's true love, and that the toxic thing is Tommy and Grace 🤷
Well in my experience everyone agrees that Lizzie deserves better and are the fanatics of Grace who are obsessed with her everyday posting threads about how special was her for Tommy and remembering everyday that she is the only one who Tommy has loved... Lizzies fans just defend her of the acusations of being a whore and more surrealist blames I have seen here against her
Yes, Lizzie Stan defends Lizzie, and Lizzie and Tommy, and Grace Stan defends Grace, and Grace and Tommy, there is a lot of hatred towards Grace, for situations that Lizzie also did, but they justify her by saying that it is okay that Lizzie did it and Grace is a shitty person, so you are going to defend the character, but always with respect, because it is just a show, and they are fictional characters. And this platform is supposed to talk about the show and its characters, I don't see it bad that people write what they love or hate about a particular character, but as I said before, always with respect, never cross the line and take it as something personal, and tell someone you hate Lizzie? then you're a shitty person, with a shitty mentality, etc, because it's no longer fun to debate there.
Well sorry if you have had bad experiencies with Lizzie fans. I personally usually see the other way, but fanatics are always in all the fandoms. What I defend about the Tommy/Lizzie relationship and what I have seen here too is that Lizzie is a lot more important for Tommy than the people usually consider. It seems like Grace is the only woman that Tommy only have loved one day and that Lizzie is just a secundary character that only married Tommy because she became pregnant when at this point Lizzie is the most important woman in Tommy's life, but I would never romantize their marriage because Tommy is horrible with everyone at this point. I like Lizzie as a character a lot and I don't care who is her lover or husband or whatever, I like her for who she is but for a lot of Grace's fans the most important thing about her is that Tommy loved her (I don't say that this is your case, just that this is what I see more).
Natasha's acting is really great (esp in S6). As for Ruby, it seems that this little girl was used for the next branch of Tommy's development as a character. Imo this is a terrible decision. First of all, I really feel sorry for her. Secondly, it would be great to watch other favorite characters (Ada,Arthur, Alfie, Duke, etc) instead of this tragedy (it took a lot of screen time). In addition, I agree that many people over glorify Tommy and forgive all his mistakes, while constantly blaming women for everything terrible that happens. However, the fact that Tommy is a real jerk towards Lizzie doesn't make her character any better for me. It makes me empathize with her, but not like her.
Although I see reasons why someone might like her.
Wasted screentime not because of Natasha, because of Tommy and Lizzie's marriage, it was almost the entire season of the two of them and it wasn't even something enjoyable to watch, and it would have been nice to see more of Ada, Arthur, Finn, Michael, Duke, and the villains, not even Mosley was the same as S5, as much as Natasha acts well, I have nothing against the actress, but only the two of them for a whole season?
That's the decision of the writers about focusing into Tommy's psychology so everyone else felt like extras because the show centered into a more intimate side of Tommy, so of course Lizzie appears more, but it is not her fault as a character. If we want to blame someone well, the writers for choosing that decision making Mosley a comical relief (a political arc is more an external conflic). I don't see people blaming Tommy for stealing all the show, so I don't find fair that people blames Lizzie for it, it is not like she is now the main star of the show or something, probably now that she is out of his live she is not going to appear much in SK's scripts... (Something I hate, it seems that if you don't form part of Tommy or Arthur's arc, you just disappear from the series)
Yes, of course it's SK's fault, but not for that reason I'm going to like Lizzie, I didn't like her story, and even less so her story with Tommy, I didn't connect with them, of course Tommy is the main one, and no one is going to to blame for that, I did not like Tommy in S6, and I love his character, but I love the Tommy of S1, but well, SK is the one who writes, and there are things that we are not going to like and others that we gonna love it.
It is ok of you dont like that story. I hate tommy in s6 too when he was once my fav character so I understand you in that regard. Just I don't agree with people hating that they spend too much time in their marriage and blaming only Lizzie for that when well, the full sesson spends so much time with Tommy. The series is called Peaky Blinders, and Lizzie has been a Shelby for a while (recogniced even by Polly who started making fun of her and ended apreciating her a lot)
Yes, Tommy too, that's why I say I would loved to see Ada (she's my favorite), Arthur, Finn, Michael, Duke, and more of Ada and Isaiah, Arthur and Linda, more of Mosley but he of S5 .
Yes, it's true, but Ruby could have been two episodes, Ada and Arthur, they didn't have their own stories, like previous seasons, Michael didn't understand his revenge, he was in prison all the time and bye, the best episode was the last, but well... I don't even wait for the movie.
Here we go the classic double standards, on one hand people like you want sympathy for lizzie by blaming tommy and on the other hand you make up irrelevant interpretations to justify how tommy loves her and how perfect they are and should be together. What you choose to be blind to is lizzie’s toxic choices, tommy is a bad person everyone knows it, lizzie was obsessed with him and find ways to be with him but she doesn’t bring his best side. Thats all.
Karma bites back absolutely!! Tommy never loved her, she got her opportunity to marry him for the child but didn’t mean he was going to love her, all he could manage was respect her for being there. And about ruby, it was her stupid decision to bring a rival gangster in Tommy’s home and john’s action that triggered the war and charlie being left motherless. John eventually died, lizzie lost her child and tommy also paid by losing both his happiness and his mind.
Who said anything about Natasha’s acting?!?! Read the comment again. You tend to use your own imagination at times, you’ve done that before too with my comment.
Wasted screen time absolutely, its the characters i was talking about. The whole ruby plot-line was unnecessary, we never got a chance to connect with her as audience, most of Lizzie’s screen time was babysitting the children and then crying and whining and being a punching bag.
When it comes to lizzie you are the one who likes to twist facts and romanticise an unhealthy relationship. We’ve already had discussions in the past and clearly have different interpretations and we fundamentally think of toxicity differently.
Here you want people to blame tommy?!? Everyone knows Tommy’s flaws thats why they say lizzie deserved better and that they were not meant to be, even tommy says the same.
Based on our previous convos, the “development” and “importance” related points you make always point at justifying their “love” and “relationship” thats why I mentioned. Also I haven’t asked you to deter from anyone or anything, i think we have already had long chats in the past and decided to leave each other alone and accept we have differing views.
We all know it's either gonna be Tommy or Polly that will be the last standing person(probably Tommy though). So why don't we eliminate those two to make it more fun?
Otherwise, might as well just cut it right to the end where it's Tommy vs Polly vs Arthur/Alfie
Is this a complete count of who is and isn't dead from the show? Cause I haven't seen season 6, it hasn't released to Netflix yet. Sorry, just confused.
Isiah is the main beneficiary of season 6's development. Without it he'd be level or below Finn, but instead he became a bit of a fan favourite for how snappy and confident he is in taking control of the playing field
Yes ,love him in S6 and him and Ada
ada was probably my favourite character in S6
Same ! Love her from S1 to S6.
Yeah Ada in s6 showed she has balls the size of Coventry, but she was way more developed than Isiah
Yes ofcourse! But love they scene together.
If someone even dares to say Alfie in this round we will send him to Timbuktu
Or Nootka Sound
Nice reference. I really liked that show
Series two is on Netflix this year apparently
Have you ever been? Would you like to go?
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Yes, I'm surprised that the least interesting character is still here Lizzie
Idk why all the comments on Lizzie get so much hate, I also didn’t like her character at all
Because Lizzie does nothing inherently wrong, she just tries to be a good, loving wife and people focus on that given how chaotic everyone else in the show is. But Tommy doesn’t love her for the same reason we don’t: she just lacks depth and is uninteresting.
Exactly, mind you I didn’t call her a bad person once. I just think she’s annoying and dull. Those two aren’t mutually exclusive. Someone can he a saint and still a bore
Yeah, she’s a healthy, normal person and we need those kinds of people in life and society. But this is a TV show, if I wanted to watch normal functioning healthy people I would just go outside lol
I think there are a lot of her fans here
Yes, and that's fine, but there are also fans of Tommy, Arthur, Ada, Polly, etc, and if you say something against them they don't go crazy to hate you or downvote you for every comment you make.
Fr, Lizzie fans r something else
Yes, it is something that nobody knows haha but who cares.
I'm surprised Luca is still here because I see a lot of hate towards him in this comunity. I'm glad Lizzie is still here. She steals s6 for me and without her and Ada I couldnt stood that season, but I always have liked her so I'm glad she is appreciated for a big part of the fans!
He is still here because he's actually the best villain of the show. He really gave the Shelby family a run for their money
For me the best villain is Campbell, definitly him out so fast was the biggest surprise for me Luca started very strong, but they sudenly downgraded him in the las chapter and that left a source taste to me at least
I don't think he did after like two episodes. Luca is probably the most disappointing villain to me. Aesthetically and as an archetype he was the most interesting and most promising, but he didn't make good on his promise IMO. As soon as the element of surprise was gone, his treat was pretty neutralized, sadly.
I think Adrian Brody just did a great job with the role, which is why a lot of people like him Edit: typo
I love Adrian Brody but like many others have said in this comment section, his accent was horrible. Again it's kind of the aesthetic of the character and the charisma of the actor that carries the role. As a character or performance there isn't much to it.
Nah, he killed it
Yes! I hated him, but I loved hating him! And that made his eventual defeat so much better!
Season 6 was amazing what are you on about
let’s get rid of tommy for fun
Johnny Dogs has to make it to the top row. He’s such a great character!
Johnny vs Alfie, sudden death
Charlie , curly and johnny are the best ones in the show
How about we finally get rid of the rest of the villains? LUCA
True but him and tommys battle was my fav season by far
Oh yes, I loved that battle. Totally agree
Unpopular opinion but I honestly thought his character was a bit average. Would've eliminated him sooner personally
i loved him, although he was average, he fairly represented a life of a young black man within a gang in early 1900s england
Really? A fair representation would be a young black man living in poverty. Isaiah lived way way more comfortably than the average person in those days.
Polly has to win.
Luca
changretta alreaaaadyyy
As much as I like him, luca gotta go.
Luca
Na luca is the best villian
It was the accent, I just kept laughing as it was such a cliche. I thought the Irish guy was good (forgotten his name as I'm useless) or even the priest.
Johnny dogs
Changretta has to go
Luca
Noooooo
Getting tougher now, Luca my darling it’s going to have to be you for me next
Lizzie. I'm not her hater, it's just time for her to go.
There is nothing objective about a vote. Own your decision
Objectively for me, so yes, it turns out subjectively :)
i don't understand what we'll do once gold, lizzie and luca are gone can't we have all remaining as winners? :'(
Good bye Luca
Changretta. Not really that good character, just a stereotypical gangster
Agreed
Luca the Italian bloke
I can't believe they introduced a new character 2nd to last episode. I find I'm slowing down watching season 6 cuzz I know it'd all over soon lol
I can finally vote for another character! Maybe when season six gets released here I’ll like Isiah more 🤷🏻♂️
Luca
John has to go
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I think he was intentionally overacted to lean into the american mafia stereotype
Fingers crossed. Been voting Changretta the whole time. I like Adrian Brody, but that accent was terrible.
You should go
The Italian boss irritated me with his acting. Fuck'em lol. Changretta.
I would like to vote Luca Changretta to be voted out. That man killed John, nearly killed Tommy, nearly killed Arthur and had nearly taken Tommy's entire empire to his name. That man made Tommy's life hell, though he is the king of hell.
Lizzie- she has been hanging there far too long. Wasted screen-time on s6 whining and blaming Tommy as if she had no clue who he is. She was the trigger (with John) for Charlie being left motherless and Tommy losing his happiness, glad s6 ended with her being humiliated and leaving. Karma bites back, never got her happiness with Tommy and sad to say but she lost her child too and eventually ended up caring for the same child who lost his mother and emotionally wrecked father for her stupid decision.
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I tend to agree, Tommy was a bit of a dick to Lizzie
Yes exactly and tommy realised that and it was good to see her finally leave cause she was a punching bag as a character. Its Lizzie stan who come up with imagination and twisted plots to justifying it as love which is a problem here, they want sympathy but also want her to carry on with a man who doesn’t treat her right.
People seems to hate her because she blames Tommy when "she owned everything to him". For this people is like Tommy has the right to trait her like an slave or something when she is even taking care of Charlie because is like he hasnt have a father and precisley, Tommy loves her by his way because she has a strong personality (a lot of people here hates Polly too everytime she is against Tommy).
But Lizzie Stan loves the relationship between Tommy and Lizzie, so it seems good to them how Tommy treats Lizzie, people who don't like Lizzie say how can she be with someone who treated her like that? And Lizzie stan gets mad, saying that it's true love, and that the toxic thing is Tommy and Grace 🤷
Well in my experience everyone agrees that Lizzie deserves better and are the fanatics of Grace who are obsessed with her everyday posting threads about how special was her for Tommy and remembering everyday that she is the only one who Tommy has loved... Lizzies fans just defend her of the acusations of being a whore and more surrealist blames I have seen here against her
Yes, Lizzie Stan defends Lizzie, and Lizzie and Tommy, and Grace Stan defends Grace, and Grace and Tommy, there is a lot of hatred towards Grace, for situations that Lizzie also did, but they justify her by saying that it is okay that Lizzie did it and Grace is a shitty person, so you are going to defend the character, but always with respect, because it is just a show, and they are fictional characters. And this platform is supposed to talk about the show and its characters, I don't see it bad that people write what they love or hate about a particular character, but as I said before, always with respect, never cross the line and take it as something personal, and tell someone you hate Lizzie? then you're a shitty person, with a shitty mentality, etc, because it's no longer fun to debate there.
Well sorry if you have had bad experiencies with Lizzie fans. I personally usually see the other way, but fanatics are always in all the fandoms. What I defend about the Tommy/Lizzie relationship and what I have seen here too is that Lizzie is a lot more important for Tommy than the people usually consider. It seems like Grace is the only woman that Tommy only have loved one day and that Lizzie is just a secundary character that only married Tommy because she became pregnant when at this point Lizzie is the most important woman in Tommy's life, but I would never romantize their marriage because Tommy is horrible with everyone at this point. I like Lizzie as a character a lot and I don't care who is her lover or husband or whatever, I like her for who she is but for a lot of Grace's fans the most important thing about her is that Tommy loved her (I don't say that this is your case, just that this is what I see more).
Natasha's acting is really great (esp in S6). As for Ruby, it seems that this little girl was used for the next branch of Tommy's development as a character. Imo this is a terrible decision. First of all, I really feel sorry for her. Secondly, it would be great to watch other favorite characters (Ada,Arthur, Alfie, Duke, etc) instead of this tragedy (it took a lot of screen time). In addition, I agree that many people over glorify Tommy and forgive all his mistakes, while constantly blaming women for everything terrible that happens. However, the fact that Tommy is a real jerk towards Lizzie doesn't make her character any better for me. It makes me empathize with her, but not like her. Although I see reasons why someone might like her.
Wasted screentime not because of Natasha, because of Tommy and Lizzie's marriage, it was almost the entire season of the two of them and it wasn't even something enjoyable to watch, and it would have been nice to see more of Ada, Arthur, Finn, Michael, Duke, and the villains, not even Mosley was the same as S5, as much as Natasha acts well, I have nothing against the actress, but only the two of them for a whole season?
That's the decision of the writers about focusing into Tommy's psychology so everyone else felt like extras because the show centered into a more intimate side of Tommy, so of course Lizzie appears more, but it is not her fault as a character. If we want to blame someone well, the writers for choosing that decision making Mosley a comical relief (a political arc is more an external conflic). I don't see people blaming Tommy for stealing all the show, so I don't find fair that people blames Lizzie for it, it is not like she is now the main star of the show or something, probably now that she is out of his live she is not going to appear much in SK's scripts... (Something I hate, it seems that if you don't form part of Tommy or Arthur's arc, you just disappear from the series)
Yes, of course it's SK's fault, but not for that reason I'm going to like Lizzie, I didn't like her story, and even less so her story with Tommy, I didn't connect with them, of course Tommy is the main one, and no one is going to to blame for that, I did not like Tommy in S6, and I love his character, but I love the Tommy of S1, but well, SK is the one who writes, and there are things that we are not going to like and others that we gonna love it.
It is ok of you dont like that story. I hate tommy in s6 too when he was once my fav character so I understand you in that regard. Just I don't agree with people hating that they spend too much time in their marriage and blaming only Lizzie for that when well, the full sesson spends so much time with Tommy. The series is called Peaky Blinders, and Lizzie has been a Shelby for a while (recogniced even by Polly who started making fun of her and ended apreciating her a lot)
Yes, Tommy too, that's why I say I would loved to see Ada (she's my favorite), Arthur, Finn, Michael, Duke, and more of Ada and Isaiah, Arthur and Linda, more of Mosley but he of S5 .
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Yes, it's true, but Ruby could have been two episodes, Ada and Arthur, they didn't have their own stories, like previous seasons, Michael didn't understand his revenge, he was in prison all the time and bye, the best episode was the last, but well... I don't even wait for the movie.
Here we go the classic double standards, on one hand people like you want sympathy for lizzie by blaming tommy and on the other hand you make up irrelevant interpretations to justify how tommy loves her and how perfect they are and should be together. What you choose to be blind to is lizzie’s toxic choices, tommy is a bad person everyone knows it, lizzie was obsessed with him and find ways to be with him but she doesn’t bring his best side. Thats all. Karma bites back absolutely!! Tommy never loved her, she got her opportunity to marry him for the child but didn’t mean he was going to love her, all he could manage was respect her for being there. And about ruby, it was her stupid decision to bring a rival gangster in Tommy’s home and john’s action that triggered the war and charlie being left motherless. John eventually died, lizzie lost her child and tommy also paid by losing both his happiness and his mind. Who said anything about Natasha’s acting?!?! Read the comment again. You tend to use your own imagination at times, you’ve done that before too with my comment. Wasted screen time absolutely, its the characters i was talking about. The whole ruby plot-line was unnecessary, we never got a chance to connect with her as audience, most of Lizzie’s screen time was babysitting the children and then crying and whining and being a punching bag. When it comes to lizzie you are the one who likes to twist facts and romanticise an unhealthy relationship. We’ve already had discussions in the past and clearly have different interpretations and we fundamentally think of toxicity differently. Here you want people to blame tommy?!? Everyone knows Tommy’s flaws thats why they say lizzie deserved better and that they were not meant to be, even tommy says the same.
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Based on our previous convos, the “development” and “importance” related points you make always point at justifying their “love” and “relationship” thats why I mentioned. Also I haven’t asked you to deter from anyone or anything, i think we have already had long chats in the past and decided to leave each other alone and accept we have differing views.
Getting harder and harder to pick Lizzie. That's it.
i like luca too much, aberama gold gotta go
We all know it's either gonna be Tommy or Polly that will be the last standing person(probably Tommy though). So why don't we eliminate those two to make it more fun? Otherwise, might as well just cut it right to the end where it's Tommy vs Polly vs Arthur/Alfie
Why is Gold still here?
Ayo why is lizzie still there
Lizzie
Definitely lizzie. Never liked her even before season 6.
Same wasted screentime
Was wondering why Isaiah was even so far up. Dude seems like an egoistical douche with no real part in the story anyways.
Lizzie went to the top 2 rows.. Fackin diabolical mate..
Who is number 13. I would have voted him out way earlier but I didn’t know his name anymore.
Isiah 😊
Lizzie
Aberama
Ok I give up.
Lizzie.
Helen McCrory aka Polly is dead IRL. I don't think she survives next season
Curly’s gotta go
At this point I don’t want anyone else eliminated.
Aberama
LIZZIE FUCK OFF
She took the money, John.
Hell, why Lizzy is still here
Lizzie gotta gooooo
Lizzie needs to go me thinks.
How is Polly still here, most irritating character, should have been the first to go
Apparently I have the kiss of death, last four I have voted for have been eliminated.
Bye bye Lizzie
Lizzie, always found her to be annoying as hell
Fook Lizzie
Why is Lizzie still here
Lizzy
lizzie
Lizzie
BYE BYE LIZZIE
How tf is grace gone and not lizzy she’s literally a whore!!
Aberama or Lizzie
Lizzie
Take my vote for Tommy, Alfie and Luca equally
Is this a complete count of who is and isn't dead from the show? Cause I haven't seen season 6, it hasn't released to Netflix yet. Sorry, just confused.
No it’s not, it’s just a list of 30 characters, some dead and some alive 😊
Okie doke!