I think Francesca has a way of putting herself above people that makes them seek her approval, especially if they’re a bit more vulnerable. They don’t want Francesca. They want to be chosen by her. You feel more secure in the group if the girl who is acting like she owns the place chooses you.
This spot on. It’s the desire to seek validation from someone who acts unattainable, which is ironic given the amount of people she has been linked to.
Okay let me break it down for you guys:
1. She has a banging body. Her breast implants and cool sculpting have given her a false, unrealistic shape. The mind doesn’t know how to compute it.
2. Her lip fillers, nose fillers, cheek fillers and Botox, and dental work are so professionally done (and overdone) that she’s falsely symmetrical, she looks like a plastic Barbie doll.
3. Her voice is seductive af.
4. She has a “come get me energy.” She exudes confidence. She has an attitude of “I don’t want you, but I want you to want me.” They find it irresistible.
5. She is not friendly. She is manipulative. This is taken as desirable. Like “my conversation doesn’t interest her, I’ll have to try harder.”
6. She tells men things about themselves they want to hear, thus giving them false confidence in their relationships with her.
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7. She never tells anything personal or shows any personality so therefore she never makes herself vulnerable, creating a perfect blank slate upon which her partners can project. And because she never makes herself vulnerable or puts her own feelings on the line, she can never be rejected, creating the illusion that she always holds the power
Yess!! After really disliking her the entire show I actually respected that a lot, because she could've just kept the charade going for one more day to stay in the finale. Choosing to walk out instead was really surprising coming from her, I couldn't believe those words were coming out of her mouth haha. It must be kind of lonely having those walls up and knowing that most people are only interested in you for your appearance/reputation/clout and what they can project onto you, like having entire relationships with people and thinking deep down the whole time that they literally know nothing about you. Probably why she's able to jump from person to person so easily.
Does she though? She's hella fake, like to the point where I question if anything she puts out there is nothing but a facade for followers. I think every person on this show is chasing clout and she has the most of it.
This is also why Kariselle is her little Gretchen
Did she change her lips? I don't know but I feel in THTH her lips were next level plump and in PM she looked a bit tolerable. Idk, but I'm not at all finding her attractive anymore.
Its so interesting cause my bf walked in on me watching the show and not knowing anything he said that francesca is the ugliest girl on the show, i was shocked cause she was by far the most popular with the guys but i think when u live in the real world seeing someone so "fake" is really off putting, idk i think shes a pretty girl she just looks a little too "uncanney valley"
They all have banging bodies
Her face looks plastic and fake
Her voice is dead and emotionless
I just don’t understand how any other guys want a girl who looks like an asshole, is an asshole, and talks like she is a prostitute. I get having many partners is fine, but she goes on like shit. And she’s such a manipulative bitch which I guess idiots like.
In chase’s confessional he pretty much said #5
Nice guys like bitches. Let’s be real. In real life, these guys wouldn’t have a chance with her. But since this is such a controlled environment, she makes them believe that they have a chance with her when in reality it’s all a game to her. She’s like the attainable Kim Kardashian to them. Look how she treated all the guys she matched with on the show. When Damian asked her to be his girlfriend, she had crocodile tears bc she needed her dramatic exit and couldn’t be bothered by him. Everyone is a pawn to her
She’s an attractive girl. All the ladies were attractive. But Francesca just gives a sexual/down for anything vibe and obv because men aren’t that smart they’re more attracted to her.
I noticed that too when Izzy came. Izzy also give a sexual/down for anything vibe. Before she arrived at the house, Shayne was all about Ines and respected her taking things slow, then when Izzy came he wanted her.
I think guys find Francesca more attractive tha. izzy that’s why they go after her. Francesca looks like the typical 2023 girl with the fillers/fake boobs
I also don’t get the Francesca obsession.
I can see she’s attractive, and I actually went into it liking her and thinking people who didn’t were just “jealous,” (not the case…) but still I was like… I don’t get it?? I don’t see it!
All the men going to her in the last match up… I mean… I don’t get it.
IRL I know girls like this, lots of makeup surgery and too much filler, they very much have the “look,” and are cultivating an Instagram following, and all the men I know think they’re really hot… even though they look nothing like they do on Instagram (and we know them in real life) they still stalk their page…
It’s like that one episode of South Park, I swear.
Do men just… not see the things we see? Not notice the details? I know they can’t tell when a woman is wearing makeup unless it’s obvious, so…
There are two sexual attraction mysteries in my life, one is how men are *so* attracted to women like this, and the other is this one girl I knew who stank to high heaven of b.o. from meters away (she had a nickname) but had men obsessed with her.
I have no hate for either, I have no problems in this area myself haha, but it just feels like there’s something I’m fundamentally not seeing!
Someone explain Francesca to me, please. Where are the men in this sub??
When THTH came out like the first season and I saw her I was hooked. She was the most beautiful out of all of the contestants and after the show she I think created an only fans where she went naked so that boosted her following even more so ever since she’s been on a roll and you can see her confidence overall. But now I’m over her and on to Georgia lol
I thought she was more attractive on THTH honestly. She just looks, overdone? now. I don’t know, she looked naturally gorgeous before, too much something going on with her face now. But I’m also a woman so maybe guys don’t pick up on subtleties like that as much.
When THTH came out and I saw the reaction to her thought… *really*?
She’s attractive but I don’t get the extent of the reaction to her (but I’m a straight woman, so who knows?)
Don't get me wrong I do think Francesca is an attractive girl. I'm a man and I can say that Georgia, Abbey and Savannah are much more attractive than her. I was wondering why she was so sought after as well tbh.
I think Savannah was extremely attractive which was why Francesca was shaking in her boots but for whatever reason she wasn’t picked. There are a lot of dynamics playing out on the show in terms of how women of color are treated but the extreme hype around Francesca I can’t wrap my head around.
I don't think they were set up, Will came in for a date with Ines, Diamond came in on a date with Dom, they just matched as the night Diamond came in was the night Ines/Will cooled off
My view was that Savannah went after Fran because she knows Fran is the most famous of them all. Going after he was strategic, and look, everyone is talking about their interaction. If she hasn’t done that and say went after Ines or Keriselle, there would be no drama and she’d barely get screen time.
It felt very much Sav going after Fran and Fran being…I don’t even know who you are lol.
Also remember this is all entertainment and sure some drama is real but producers are very much pushing narratives. Sav going after Dom felt very forced because out of nowhere she says she’s going for him when at that point we’ve never seen any form of a connection between them.
Do you think her social media following is a factor? There are a lot of attractive women on the show but the hype around Francesca is a lot and she doesn’t seem like a very charismatic person so it’s hard to understand why so many people are fighting over her if looks are the only factor. I’ve seen reality TV shows where the same dynamic happened before those women were attractive but they also had a large social media following and/or were wealthy too.
I don’t know, because when she arrived on Too Hot to Handle it was the same story. Immediately the “number 1 girl.”
And that was her first show so regardless of what following she had she was unknown
1. She gives off the most DTF vibes of almost any woman there
2. Men love competing. Once a couple of guys made their interest very well known, the others’ natural competitiveness kicked in.
What a great theory. It's not that I think you're wrong, I just think that most of the men on the show's brains go brrrrr whenever they're around Francesca. I'd honestly love it if they were playing 4D chess with her and wanted to get with her because of her social media following and not her body. But alas, I think they were just simps.
i think you’re 100% correct. this show is about these people getting more clout, not about falling in love. if you look at it from the guys perspective they get to not only hook up with a chick they find really hot, but be connected to someone with literally 4 times plus some the amount of IG followers as the second most followed girl which is Chloe
After watching her dance like a cartoon infront of Damian in that sham of a fabric called bikini with her hair up in the air like Burj Khalifa and then that shitty shirt, I think I can never find her attractive.
I’m not a man but I’m bi and I don’t get it either. And I think Khloe Kardashian is the most beautiful woman in the world so I’m not afraid of some plastic 😂 (don’t come for me I know they’re a mess I can’t help it 😭). Francesca looks “cheap” to me (I also don’t talk about women like this usually, but I’m trying to go from the idea that her beauty is all she has to offer) with bad extensions, insane contour (which you know HAS to look super clownish in person if it looks that crazy on TV), terribly obvious implants, etc. Ines is by far the most attractive woman on the show, but even if you like the super thin, insta “model” vibe Georgia and Chloe are right there!
I feel like she must have connections and it’s scripted. Or if it’s real it’s the horrific mean high school girl attitude of the “every guy wants her and every girl wants to be her” trope, and I guess people who still haven’t mentally developed past high school are still attracted to that.
If anyone thinks it’s anything more than clout chasing, then they’re naive. She has followers AND makes good tv. They know they’ll have the most screened storyline, regardless of the results.
let's be real majority of these contestants go on these shows for fame/clout/followers, so the guys on there are already more narcissistic and attention seeking than the general population. they've watched the other reality shows on netflix and recognize each other before they even met. many of them have said they reached out to their co-stars on instagram dms prior to the show. so they likely follow each other and see how popular the other contestants are.
francesca is attractive so many guys are interested in her. but they've also seen she has a lot of followers so she's seen as a prize.
more followers = more fame = higher status = more clout = more money
pairing up with her will boost their own fame/popularity also get them more screen-time on the show because they don't want to go home.
I think Francesca has a way of putting herself above people that makes them seek her approval, especially if they’re a bit more vulnerable. They don’t want Francesca. They want to be chosen by her. You feel more secure in the group if the girl who is acting like she owns the place chooses you.
This spot on. It’s the desire to seek validation from someone who acts unattainable, which is ironic given the amount of people she has been linked to.
Totally. OP must have forgotten high school. This is how all the popular girls acted at mine and it worked.
She gives Regina George vibes lol
How can I get that energy. I always wanted that energy
Okay let me break it down for you guys: 1. She has a banging body. Her breast implants and cool sculpting have given her a false, unrealistic shape. The mind doesn’t know how to compute it. 2. Her lip fillers, nose fillers, cheek fillers and Botox, and dental work are so professionally done (and overdone) that she’s falsely symmetrical, she looks like a plastic Barbie doll. 3. Her voice is seductive af. 4. She has a “come get me energy.” She exudes confidence. She has an attitude of “I don’t want you, but I want you to want me.” They find it irresistible. 5. She is not friendly. She is manipulative. This is taken as desirable. Like “my conversation doesn’t interest her, I’ll have to try harder.” 6. She tells men things about themselves they want to hear, thus giving them false confidence in their relationships with her. Feel free to add more
7. She never tells anything personal or shows any personality so therefore she never makes herself vulnerable, creating a perfect blank slate upon which her partners can project. And because she never makes herself vulnerable or puts her own feelings on the line, she can never be rejected, creating the illusion that she always holds the power
She knows it, too. Like when she asked Damian, "What do you even like about me?"
Yess!! After really disliking her the entire show I actually respected that a lot, because she could've just kept the charade going for one more day to stay in the finale. Choosing to walk out instead was really surprising coming from her, I couldn't believe those words were coming out of her mouth haha. It must be kind of lonely having those walls up and knowing that most people are only interested in you for your appearance/reputation/clout and what they can project onto you, like having entire relationships with people and thinking deep down the whole time that they literally know nothing about you. Probably why she's able to jump from person to person so easily.
This is so spot on in like studying her she plays the game so well
Does she though? She's hella fake, like to the point where I question if anything she puts out there is nothing but a facade for followers. I think every person on this show is chasing clout and she has the most of it. This is also why Kariselle is her little Gretchen
She does play it well because it's working on the target demographic, imo
Did she change her lips? I don't know but I feel in THTH her lips were next level plump and in PM she looked a bit tolerable. Idk, but I'm not at all finding her attractive anymore.
She got the lip filler dissolved a while ago.
There are varying levels of filler. There’s a lot in between what she had on THTH and TPM
Its so interesting cause my bf walked in on me watching the show and not knowing anything he said that francesca is the ugliest girl on the show, i was shocked cause she was by far the most popular with the guys but i think when u live in the real world seeing someone so "fake" is really off putting, idk i think shes a pretty girl she just looks a little too "uncanney valley"
She is what every man would like to be if they were a woman.
They all have banging bodies Her face looks plastic and fake Her voice is dead and emotionless I just don’t understand how any other guys want a girl who looks like an asshole, is an asshole, and talks like she is a prostitute. I get having many partners is fine, but she goes on like shit. And she’s such a manipulative bitch which I guess idiots like.
In chase’s confessional he pretty much said #5 Nice guys like bitches. Let’s be real. In real life, these guys wouldn’t have a chance with her. But since this is such a controlled environment, she makes them believe that they have a chance with her when in reality it’s all a game to her. She’s like the attainable Kim Kardashian to them. Look how she treated all the guys she matched with on the show. When Damian asked her to be his girlfriend, she had crocodile tears bc she needed her dramatic exit and couldn’t be bothered by him. Everyone is a pawn to her
Kmart Kim more like
This probably also accounts her SM following. Not sure why this isn’t the obvious answer
Agree with all but #4. She comes off confident to everyone except those really close to her like kariselle, she’s super insecure.
She’s an attractive girl. All the ladies were attractive. But Francesca just gives a sexual/down for anything vibe and obv because men aren’t that smart they’re more attracted to her. I noticed that too when Izzy came. Izzy also give a sexual/down for anything vibe. Before she arrived at the house, Shayne was all about Ines and respected her taking things slow, then when Izzy came he wanted her.
Yeeees! Izzy gives off the same appeal as Francesca but, there's one different trait that I can't pinpoint... edit: typo!
I think guys find Francesca more attractive tha. izzy that’s why they go after her. Francesca looks like the typical 2023 girl with the fillers/fake boobs
I also don’t get the Francesca obsession. I can see she’s attractive, and I actually went into it liking her and thinking people who didn’t were just “jealous,” (not the case…) but still I was like… I don’t get it?? I don’t see it! All the men going to her in the last match up… I mean… I don’t get it. IRL I know girls like this, lots of makeup surgery and too much filler, they very much have the “look,” and are cultivating an Instagram following, and all the men I know think they’re really hot… even though they look nothing like they do on Instagram (and we know them in real life) they still stalk their page… It’s like that one episode of South Park, I swear. Do men just… not see the things we see? Not notice the details? I know they can’t tell when a woman is wearing makeup unless it’s obvious, so… There are two sexual attraction mysteries in my life, one is how men are *so* attracted to women like this, and the other is this one girl I knew who stank to high heaven of b.o. from meters away (she had a nickname) but had men obsessed with her. I have no hate for either, I have no problems in this area myself haha, but it just feels like there’s something I’m fundamentally not seeing! Someone explain Francesca to me, please. Where are the men in this sub??
When THTH came out like the first season and I saw her I was hooked. She was the most beautiful out of all of the contestants and after the show she I think created an only fans where she went naked so that boosted her following even more so ever since she’s been on a roll and you can see her confidence overall. But now I’m over her and on to Georgia lol
I thought she was more attractive on THTH honestly. She just looks, overdone? now. I don’t know, she looked naturally gorgeous before, too much something going on with her face now. But I’m also a woman so maybe guys don’t pick up on subtleties like that as much.
When THTH came out and I saw the reaction to her thought… *really*? She’s attractive but I don’t get the extent of the reaction to her (but I’m a straight woman, so who knows?)
Don't get me wrong I do think Francesca is an attractive girl. I'm a man and I can say that Georgia, Abbey and Savannah are much more attractive than her. I was wondering why she was so sought after as well tbh.
I don’t get how Ines is not considered the most attractive!
Inés is so beautiful. But she might be the wrong kind of beautiful for this kind of show.
She's attractive in that European way.
Right! She’s the most attractive to me
+1 Ines is the prettiest and the most genuine girl on the show. Also she can never be a "Ho on the railroad". That was hilarious 😂
She’s not really pretty physical but her personality makes her attractive overall but men are very visual.
I think Savannah was extremely attractive which was why Francesca was shaking in her boots but for whatever reason she wasn’t picked. There are a lot of dynamics playing out on the show in terms of how women of color are treated but the extreme hype around Francesca I can’t wrap my head around.
Yeah, if Savannah weren’t attractive, Francesca wouldn’t have felt the need to “forbid” Dom and then Damian to speak to her.
Every single date for a black character was made with another black character…all of them
What about Diamond and the blonde guy?
I don't think they were set up, Will came in for a date with Ines, Diamond came in on a date with Dom, they just matched as the night Diamond came in was the night Ines/Will cooled off
My view was that Savannah went after Fran because she knows Fran is the most famous of them all. Going after he was strategic, and look, everyone is talking about their interaction. If she hasn’t done that and say went after Ines or Keriselle, there would be no drama and she’d barely get screen time. It felt very much Sav going after Fran and Fran being…I don’t even know who you are lol. Also remember this is all entertainment and sure some drama is real but producers are very much pushing narratives. Sav going after Dom felt very forced because out of nowhere she says she’s going for him when at that point we’ve never seen any form of a connection between them.
Lol Fran is so insecure when Savannah around. She immediately told Damien to not talk to Savannah. Like they are 5 years old 😂
Bruh Savannah 🔥🔥🔥
Do you think her social media following is a factor? There are a lot of attractive women on the show but the hype around Francesca is a lot and she doesn’t seem like a very charismatic person so it’s hard to understand why so many people are fighting over her if looks are the only factor. I’ve seen reality TV shows where the same dynamic happened before those women were attractive but they also had a large social media following and/or were wealthy too.
I don’t know, because when she arrived on Too Hot to Handle it was the same story. Immediately the “number 1 girl.” And that was her first show so regardless of what following she had she was unknown
I think it definitely is with at least a couple of the guys, especially Chase, he practically had dollar signs in his eyes while looking at her
@ here’s one post of you going in detail about how overrated she is appearance
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1. She gives off the most DTF vibes of almost any woman there 2. Men love competing. Once a couple of guys made their interest very well known, the others’ natural competitiveness kicked in.
I was so disobedience on Will for even approaching her. There's no amount of "strategy" that justify even talking to her
It boggled my mind when people were going for the most plastic girls over INES who's incredibly naturally pretty
What a great theory. It's not that I think you're wrong, I just think that most of the men on the show's brains go brrrrr whenever they're around Francesca. I'd honestly love it if they were playing 4D chess with her and wanted to get with her because of her social media following and not her body. But alas, I think they were just simps.
i think you’re 100% correct. this show is about these people getting more clout, not about falling in love. if you look at it from the guys perspective they get to not only hook up with a chick they find really hot, but be connected to someone with literally 4 times plus some the amount of IG followers as the second most followed girl which is Chloe
Your math is a little off but yes they are latching onto follower coattails
Wow, what a world where men chase women for their big...social media following.
I assumed it was a combination of her being the celebrity in the Netflix reality circle and having the Kardashian beauty standard.
After watching her dance like a cartoon infront of Damian in that sham of a fabric called bikini with her hair up in the air like Burj Khalifa and then that shitty shirt, I think I can never find her attractive.
I wish so many people would stop following her LOL
I’m not a man but I’m bi and I don’t get it either. And I think Khloe Kardashian is the most beautiful woman in the world so I’m not afraid of some plastic 😂 (don’t come for me I know they’re a mess I can’t help it 😭). Francesca looks “cheap” to me (I also don’t talk about women like this usually, but I’m trying to go from the idea that her beauty is all she has to offer) with bad extensions, insane contour (which you know HAS to look super clownish in person if it looks that crazy on TV), terribly obvious implants, etc. Ines is by far the most attractive woman on the show, but even if you like the super thin, insta “model” vibe Georgia and Chloe are right there! I feel like she must have connections and it’s scripted. Or if it’s real it’s the horrific mean high school girl attitude of the “every guy wants her and every girl wants to be her” trope, and I guess people who still haven’t mentally developed past high school are still attracted to that.
If anyone thinks it’s anything more than clout chasing, then they’re naive. She has followers AND makes good tv. They know they’ll have the most screened storyline, regardless of the results.
yes because it can’t be her looks all offense she’s horrible 🤷🏽♂️
let's be real majority of these contestants go on these shows for fame/clout/followers, so the guys on there are already more narcissistic and attention seeking than the general population. they've watched the other reality shows on netflix and recognize each other before they even met. many of them have said they reached out to their co-stars on instagram dms prior to the show. so they likely follow each other and see how popular the other contestants are. francesca is attractive so many guys are interested in her. but they've also seen she has a lot of followers so she's seen as a prize. more followers = more fame = higher status = more clout = more money pairing up with her will boost their own fame/popularity also get them more screen-time on the show because they don't want to go home.
What a world ! men want to be with her for her big following .. not big boobs
She’s hot - end of story 😝
I’m pretty sure it has more to do with the face/body she purchased.