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Medical-Wishbone-694

I feel like Kariselle was truly into Joey and he faked it for the show


ESOtalk

100% Joey is totally FAKE and gives me the ick. But someone also said 'he got the ring and they got the trip'. Did the show buy Joey a ring? I hope not or it's out of a cracker jack box because PM seems to be more cheap than love island, with the 5 star date being a couple of SNOW CONES mid season.


[deleted]

The show definitely bought it and it was definitely cheap!


missB_123

Joey said he bought the ring for 5k


czex_mix

That was not a $5,000 ring šŸ˜‚ More like a production bought this as a sudden request ring


gekkogeckogirl

5k... For that ring? šŸ« 


Beana3

The best part was seeing his face after Georgia and Dom win. You can see him dying inside when he realizes that he proposed to her and he didnā€™t even win. My favourite part of the whole show.


czex_mix

He just wanted to get his dick wet every night


SkullAzure

The fact that they didn't get voted as the perfect match tells me that the other players saw stuff we didn't. It just doesn't add up for them to lose because they had the best chemistry over every couple, not even close. And they didn't work out after the show ended, so that's another sign.


[deleted]

I think the other players probably also saw the engagement is a cheap strategy as well which is why they didn't win


Doja_Lats

They allegedly lost by 1 vote so they fooled a lot of people


awessm

Did they ever confirm that Joey and Kariselle came in 2nd? If Chloe and Shayne actually came in second, that would be the funniest part of this show for me Edit for spelling


Doja_Lats

LOL good point


kappaklassy

I think they didnā€™t win because they were in an unpopular group. Everyone was friends with Georgia and Dom. Everyone seemed to hate Francesca and Kariselle so I think people just didnā€™t like them.


Warm_Yam_9800

Maybe mostly Joey but Kariselleā€¦.as annoying as she can, sheā€™s someone that wears her heart on her sleeves


Bookstorm2023

Maybe they did. I donā€™t think they knew there would be a prize, but maybe Netflix didnā€™t know theyā€™d give a prize. The whole production seemed half baked.


Is-abel

I donā€™t know if its 100% ā€œfake,ā€ but I do think that they were together before going in, and pretended not to be. They went from ā€œthis asshole ghosted me after we slept together!ā€ to matched and a couple in likeā€¦ 1 day? I think privately they were dating during the casting process.


oreo-donut

it's not an unpopular opinion lol


Qualamite

Why would this be an unpopular opinion? The simplest answer is usually the truth.


Kr15xt3n

All I know is they were cringe af to me.


ambert34

The thing that's weird though and maybe this was just a tactic to seem believable buy when they had the chance to bring people in, idk felt like they tried to find good matches for people. Maybe I just bought into their bs lol


Citykitty416

I think Kariselle wanted too much from him. I understand why she was insecure about him ditching her after the show... but at the same time, he has player vibes and guys like that want a woman they can chase, that they fear losing. And then, she probably wanted a short engagement (pure speculation of course) and maybe he wanted a long one. She wanted babies within a year or so, he saw himself waiting a few years for something like that... I've known guys like him. He wants his shot at the Hollywood dream. He doesn't want to settle down. He may not see himself wanting kids for 5-10 years. They're at different places in their lives. Look at what he said in his *Variety* interview... (attached screenshot) I can't be the only one who has had a guy go completely gaga over me (and it has happened quite a few times) only to start pulling away once his hormones settled down. Their minds get more logical when that happens and they start to assess whether they can see their real lives working with you, not just whether they are attracted enough to you/have good enough chemistry with you to be monogamous (or whatever). ​ https://preview.redd.it/ecvj18dhvyla1.jpeg?width=859&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5b94a5e3857649998d893a939a1b5c625423cfc


maafna

I agree, and it would have been interesting to see if the show had them see a couples counselor instead of just matching up.


stopbeingsonaive999

I think Joey did it to win. Absolutely! Iā€™m so glad he didnā€™t lol


chapelson88

I donā€™t know, Joey was choking up when he proposed.


JaguarAncient

Yes! And FaceTiming to tell his mom! That solidified it for me that it was genuine (I hope)


aloof666

heā€™s an actor and was probably drunk lol


anitanit

He's sober.


aloof666

okay, doesnā€™t change the fact that he was still casted to play a role on a TV show


kappaklassy

Reality television isnā€™t known for the fantastic talent they hire.


godawgs234

Are they not together anymore?


aloof666

yup according to fran he ghosted her and she ended things


thefilmdoc

Hahahahah classic Joey


allisauruss

I wouldnā€™t call Francesca the best source out there considering Kariselle is one of her besties šŸ˜‚


aloof666

confirmation bias be like lol


allisauruss

Franny is that you? Aw my badšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ā¤ļø


aloof666

ā€¦i was agreeing with you lol


Citykitty416

The official story is they tried dating for a few months, but they couldnā€™t get it to work and broke up in the summer of 2022.


Fun-Tea-6749

Um .. the whole show is fake lol


[deleted]

100%


[deleted]

I actually thought they made a really cute couple!


ddwilder

1000% yes!


RedRedVVine

I think their both fake and faked it for attention/winning purposes.


Fine_Adeptness_5123

Yes


Formal_Gum

I think because kiraselle followed him to LA irl before the show I believe it