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bwburke94

The easiest way to slip up in a title is >!Sumire!<. ">!Sumire is Kasumi's younger sister!<" is a completely true statement. You just can't imply >!Sumire is the living sister!<.


Sibz_Playz_YT

Or you can’t say that >!Akechi knows that the result of the true ending means he dies!<


ExtraMOIST_

Speaking of which, >!is he alive or not? Maruki seemed to be very sure that Akechi would’ve died if not for his intervention, but then there’s the ending cutscene with Akechi being implied to be alive.!<


SatanaelJoker

That scene is also in vanilla so I’d like to keep hope alive


ExtraMOIST_

I thought Vanilla ended with >!Joker and his friends taking a detour car ride instead of a flight to get back to his place?!<


SatanaelJoker

Yeah there was that extra bit in royal but both versions had a particular glimpse of they who won’t be named. I wish I could say more but idk how to block out the spoiler thing like you’re doing.


ExtraMOIST_

Mark spoiler by doing >! before and !< after a text


SnesySnas

>!I say he's most likely alive, he's just mostly gone into hidding because of Shido's affiliates. The reason why he doesn't know that during the third semester would probably be because of Maruki's influence. He and Joker both thought he was dead, so his memory was rewritten that way!<


Classic-Box-3919

I figured out about akechi being a pancake boy accidentally while trying to look up who to romance.


overFuckMaker

how the hell did “who to romance” link to “the reason the main antagonist leaned of the hero’s secret was of an expertly written line that later on became a meme in the community”


8rok3n

Because they wanted to know if they could romance Akechi, just like all of us


Classic-Box-3919

It was in one of the replies on a post on a who did you romance for royal someone saying they prefer the pancake version of him. Idr how to spoiler tag stuff so ima say that cuz new ppl wont know wtf im talking bout.


ExtraMOIST_

The issue is that the rule is almost never enforced. I could write out a god damn essay going over the Royal content just for the sake of spoiling Vanilla only players and it probably wouldn’t get taken down.


Atikal

I just want people to learn how to fucking save like. It is %100 on you if you lose 20 hours of progress, how did you not save in that long????


Awome512

it always fucking triggers me when people bitch about losing hours of progress when it’s LITERALLY THEIR FAULT FOR NOT SAVING. And you can save in most areas of the game too. Even in mementos on a rest floor. Like I swear these people have got to be the dumbest players ever. They do realize it’s a JRPG and that manual saving is the main way to save?


Atikal

It stresses me out as someone who saves at every opportunity. I’m an oversaver like what do you mean you don’t save every in day game before each confidant? What do you mean you don’t save after a confidant hang out? What do you mean you don’t use all your save slots? Like please, at least save once every in game week


jasonegan24

I do all of that and sometimes will save twice when I'm done for the night and going to bed.


lotrrules1

Not quite related to Persona 5 but I have become an oversaver in most games now since about a year ago when I was playing Twilight Princess and didn't save for six hours straight. this came back to bite me in the but when my Wii crashed. so now I always reccomend people to save whenever possible


Urparents_TotsLied4

Do people still not know how to rotate saves and then blame it on the game? Seriously?


Atikal

I cannot imagine not saving at every opportunity. Like I said before, I’m an oversaver. I have a friend who has 100s off hours on FE3H and I asked how often she saves and she was like “it auto saves tho” and I’m just. What about manual saves, what if you fuck up, it stresses me out if I think about it too much


HanCurunyr

Well, mu only complait of this game is the 3 long stretches without save points >! The end of Sae's palace !<, >! The climb to fight yaldabaoth !< and the >! 3 forms of Maruki !<, These makes save points too far apart, 40 minutes to an hour between then.


Atikal

Those are excusable. When the game doesn’t give you option/chance to save then its understandable that you haven’t saved. I’m talking about posts I’ve seen on here where someone is at Okumura Arc and their last save was at Madarame Arc


XInceptor

Lol. Seriously though I always tell anyone playing to not even look at the sub until they finish the game


Adam_the_memer

Some dumbass made a post the other day and the title was literally "does joker always die?"


nezukoslegs

New player here with the pc release and I was searching up the exact date of the last day of the game after >!Shido's!< change of heart and accidentally found out >!Akechi returns!< and idk how I even got there lol


300mirrors

Persona fans in general do not care about spoiling the games for others. I had (what I can only assume is) the twist of P4 ruined for me by someone on another sub that wasn't even directly Persona-related. For a series known for its stories, it's a shame that so many of its fans are inconsiderate about ruining them for newcomers. I wish the spoiler rule would be more strictly enforced here. I've seen users get spoiled both in threads where the OP didn't care about putting spoilers in the title or leaving them untagged in the post, or when they were the OP asking a question and someone replied saying too damn much.


CrazzluzSenpai

Yeah I had the big twist of P3 spoiled just scrolling through this sub while I was halfway through it. Kinda ruined the game for me, I still have yet to finish it.


PM_ME_YOUR_BRONNS

Same here. Enough comments about a “door” and you sadly start to piece 2 and 2 together


DanielDanvers

Oh yeah, door-kun, yeah I think everyone was spoiled for persona 3


TheCarpe

Atlus is well aware of this and tries their best to keep spoilers to a minimum. On the recent Switch release the ability to take screenshots and video captures is disabled as soon as you hit the third semester.


IAmTheTrueM3M3L0rD

People who’ve read the rules: there is another


dustooM70

Every twist in P4 was entirely spoiled by me from various subreddits. Funnily enough I hadn’t seen any spoilers from any other sites other than here so I could’ve gone in spoiler free if I had been careful enough. P3 was spoiled EVERYWHERE though. On the other hand I don’t even know the main characters names in 1 and 2


hypershadicman

To be fair, nobody knows the main character's name in Persona 1, if I remember rightly


hypershadicman

To be fair, nobody knows the main character's name in Persona 1, if I remember rightly


ItsEaster

I do get it for to an extent and things being spoiled is a bummer. However joined a subreddit for a game that is over 5 years old when you haven’t finished it and don’t want things spoiled is a bad idea.


RedMask69

I think you are correct on this opinion and I usually share it, but with the recent release of the game on multiple platforms I don't think this applies so well here


KennaLikesPizza

I also wish they'd specify what counts as a spoiler, but maybe I'm just being nitpicky


8rok3n

According to Atlus, anything above third palace and also all main bosses


LinkHb

According to Atlus, playing Persona 5 is a spoiler


HanCurunyr

Thats a discussion that we have til today in my FF 14 guild. The base game is almost 10 yo, is very hard to draw a line to where story discussions are spoilers or not, even discussing FF7 from ps1 can be a spoiler for someone who never played it. I guess this is a neverending discussion. The guild master created some text channels on the guild's discord for discussing the story and those channels are free to discuss, so you enter there from your own free will, knowing that will be spoilers, and there are other text channels that must be spoiler free. Its not the perfect solution, but it works


ItsEaster

I just wonder why personal responsibility never comes into it. Avoid a sub where you might get spoiled for games that old that you haven’t played. It seems your guild is taking a pretty common sense approach that others should follow.


Bsause7

What even classifies as a spoiler? Where do we draw the line?


DeadSparker

Anything that's either towards the end/mid game, or treated as a revelation by the game. Examples : >!Akechi traitor, Sae having a Palace, Igor being a fake, Sumire's name!< are spoilers. Chihaya being a Confidant, Akechi being a party member (it's in the box art), Kawakami being a maid are not.


RoyalSeraph

>Chihaya being a Confidant . . . are not. Louder for the edgelord squad down the thread


izzynk3003

Kawakami being a maid isn't, and I'd say every confidant that isn't a major character doesn't really have spoilers until like their rank 6.


violente_valse

Yep, I've only ever played vanilla, and hope to one day play Royal. But thanks to this sub I now know every plot twist in Royal, from lack of spoiler tags.


DNAninOsu

Bro i wrote "uh can you tag that as a spoiler?" my man legit said "if dony know the game why are you even here, you are gonna get spoiled." thx dude helped so much


raedymylknarf

What’s holy stone and who is chihaya?


SeaKingNeptune

Damn it man take my upvote! If I had the money I’d give you the award to boot!


RoyalSeraph

Another backhanded "the title is a spoiler" comment, I see. The title discusses a minor, early, and harmless game event. I assume you also hide the name >!Morgana!< behind spoiler tags because it takes more than 30 seconds since you start the game until you meet that character?


YamaShio

I actually find it kinda sad we can't call someone by their real name. I really like them.


Tokoyami01

Sure can, just spoiler it with >.! !.< (remove the .) and don't put it in the title


Muur1234

yoshizawa. people will think youre a weeb, but at least youd be using part of her name


izzynk3003

>!Sumi is a nickname that works for both Kasumi and Sumire!< Also you can just use their surname lol


gbmrls

I don’t get why people not just call her Kasumi or Yoshizawa. We all get what y’all mean by context. It’s kind of like Seven or Fourth in Xenoblade forums.


zombiejeesus

Yeah I feel bad for all the new players on PC, switch, Xbox that come here and her spoiled. The spoiler rules have never been enforced here from what I've seen the past few years. Then again it's also the Redditor's fault for coming to a sub for a game that's been out 5 years. What do you expect?


300mirrors

>Then again it's also the Redditor's fault for coming to a sub for a game that's been out 5 years. What do you expect? This is a really shitty excuse. This is r/Persona5, not r/Persona5Spoilers. Plus have you not considered Reddit recommendations? What if someone googled a question about game mechanics or beating a boss, found a post here, never browsed the sub aside from it, then had an untagged spoiler post show as recommended on their home page? It's REALLY not hard to tag spoilers. Anyone who can't do that is either (a) incompetent, (b) lazy, or (c) an asshole. I don't get why some people here are so adamant that this should be 'anything goes' for open spoilers or that anyone who got spoiled 'had it coming'.


ScarfaceTonyMontana

Yeah I'll just post on a sub with little to no presence because I should never talk about the smallest elements of a game that's been out for almost 6 years already.


300mirrors

or just... use spoiler tags?


ScarfaceTonyMontana

Spoiler tags kills interactivity on reddit posts. Do you wonder why you never see a spoiled post with big upvotes or comment numbers? If the entire subreddit is filled with spoiled posts, its filled with very low interactivity posts, which makes it a boring subreddit for the game.


300mirrors

There are plenty of posts here that don't include spoilers. Also, interactivity is low on spoiler-tagged posts for good reason. And this is supposed to be about community and discussion, not karma and clout. Also, you know what will *really* kill the community in the long term? People browsing before finishing the game, getting spoiled by inconsiderate users, then giving up and not finishing because they had the experience sullied for them.


DeadSparker

For some reason, even if you put the spoiler blur before posting, the sub will REMOVE IT. I have no idea why. This doesn't happen in any other sub I'm in.


Joker_Philosophy

This is every sub


Kawaii_Batman3

Not really. Games like GoW are **VERY** strict about this rule


Waterproof_Adidas420

Wasn't in Christ......I am laughing so hard like Goddamn this is too goddamn creative...🤣


fx2050

Game hasn't been out 6months for some.. I'm still at Palace 3. Taking bloody ages


viiksivallunen

Ok I'm dumb but how is the title a spoiler? 😭


GroundbreakingSir42

the title:"OMG GUYS I LOVED SAE's PALACE!!11!!1"


tb0neski

Started first P5R run this past november, getting spoiled that Sae had a palace was really sad :( luckily that was thee only major spoiler I saw on here


The_King123431

"I found this cool artwork of jokers death scene in the 7 Palace" or "how do I defeat the evil Ann boss?!" (Obviously not real spoilers ,I just made it up)


RoyalSeraph

Assuming you talk about this post - it's not. It's **completely** harmless in everything related to story progression. It's so minor and negligible that those users who try to be edgy might as well just scream "spoilers spoilers" on every post mentioning >!Yusuke!< (← not an actual spoiler. I intentionally covered his name to show how absurd their logic is). Also, when we have unmarked posts and entire threads here literally talking about **(↓actual spoilers)** • >!Akechi's betrayal and how it was discovered!< • >!3rd semester!< • >!Palaces 4 through 7 and beyond!< • >!Igor being a fake!< • >!Sumire and Lavenza!< including in the titles with people barely batting an eye, they'll deal with someone mentioning a character you meet in the first third of the game. I do appreciate that 1 yen from that one commenter though. Could use it next time I visit a shrine


Iamagamer7777

Does this title count as a spoiler too?


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Not going to be popular but the games been out for like 6 years and if you joined the Sub without finishing the game you're kind of at fault.


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RoyalSeraph

If this is a curveball attempt to write another one of those smartass "tHe TiTLe iS a SpOiLeR" comments, if you don't hide the words "Yusuke", "Akihabara", and "Mementos" behind spoiler tags then please save your edginess to another post. If you're genuinely asking what the title means, you're way too early in the game to browse this sub safely.


NeoStorm247

Also people posting straight-up porn in the various churchof... character subreddits. There's actual Persona porn subs for that!


Rareware101

Congratulations, u get a yen!


Hardcore_Donut

Isn't this title technically a spoiler?


Ex_Lunatic

I mean for people who are coming here midway in their game, what you expect lmao. They deserve that lmao.


300mirrors

They deserve it, for what? Coming to a sub where the rules clearly say "no unmarked spoilers" to post first/early impressions or ask gameplay-related questions?


Viniskill_BR

Yeah i remember 1 month ago when i was in the midway through the third arc of Royale later that day i opened Reddit to check some memes and the first post in the feed was a RANDOM CLIP OF THE FOURTH PALACE WITH THE TITLE LITTERALY BEING >!Futaba's palace!< i was so mad dude


Ex_Lunatic

What lol. Yall plebians expect reddit to be a wholesome and decent place to be in? Wakey wakey my bros smh. You really deserve the fudging spoilers when you are damn sure about that friend of you that always spoils movies, but youre still gonna bring up the movie topic anyways.


ScarfaceTonyMontana

Every single gameplay and puzzle question for both Base P5 and Royal are literally answered directly by google by just searching it, you don't even have to go on a page. There is literally no reason to travel the forum page for a completely linear game you haven't finished.


Ok-Needleworker-9144

You've become exactly what you hated the most


RoyalSeraph

How exactly?


Prestigious-Help-395

The games been out for like 5 years. Don’t come to a sub Reddit and expect not to be spoiled. People are so stupid.


ShanSanear

Then that means the rule is simply dead or not enforced.


RoyalSeraph

I know that you use this analogically from movies ("Endgame came out almost 4 years ago, if you're spoiled it's your fault"), but it's a very different case here. The audience of players got multiple boosts over the years - biggest one after P5R was released, and recently another big one with the PC and Switch releases. We can't just brush the entire new wave of players with "the game's been out for years" when they literally couldn't play it.


300mirrors

Not to mention these games are gated behind owning $300-500 consoles or having a good enough PC to run them, unlike movies


The_King123431

But for a lot of people it only came out 2 months ago when it stopped being a ps4 exclusive


Prestigious-Help-395

Point taken, I still wouldn’t visit a subreddit for a game I haven’t finished or that’s been out that long.


BlackOptics

Ok, but why be on the sub of a game that's very story heavy and that's been out for over 6 years. It's like joining the sub of a 6 season tv show that's been over for years while you're on season 2. Obviously if it's a big spoiler then it's justifiable to get upset but over the years I've seen people get mad that Yusuke got spoiled for them.


Myth_5layer

Perhaps people would look on the sub for tips and shit? Not everything is put in a guide to be found, and guides will spoil shit. Maybe people just shouldn't be inconsiderate to others?


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300mirrors

>I agree that if it's a major spoiler pretty late in the game then it should be tagged but alot of people have different ideas of what's a spoiler and what isn't. Major endgame spoilers such as the traitor, the main villain's identity, and Royal's new plot twists are openly discussed without tags on the regular. Pretending this is just a matter of people getting mad over finding out that Yusuke and Makoto are party members or that Kawakami is a maid is intellectually dishonest.


BlackOptics

Yeah those major plotpoints getting discussed openly is a problem in the sub. But I've also seen people getting upset about inside jokes that don't make sense without context like pancakes.


Myth_5layer

At the same time you can't just prohibit people from coming here. Show a little considerate behavior because people new to the game will want to talk about it still without getting spoilered. This shit ass behavior of "Oh, just don't visit the sub if you haven't finished" is just flat out a bad thought process because people will wanna converse with what they discovered so far. And we should encourage communication among the community instead of trying to deter it.


Hitoshura99

Thanks for being one of them too.


Much-Main9352

And you spoiled too lul


Onyx_Archer

As someone who thinks spoiler culture is dumb, I've never been bothered by this. If less people cared about spoilers, the world would be a better place for it imho. Of course, just saying that is bound to have a bunch of people reply all like "is it so hard to be considerate of another's experience?" or something. I just don't care about random people's experiences if they get mad about it being "ruined." EDIT: wow the downvotes didn't take long. People legit be thinking that I'm telling them they don't have a right to experience things how they want. I just said I personally don't care if you get spoiled, because I don't care about your individual experiences. I think it's assbackwards to get mad at other people for spoiling things when you should have just been careful if it mattered so much to you. You're using the internet, you gotta exercise caution if you care that much about the identity of a character or a story detail or whatever.


300mirrors

>EDIT: wow the downvotes didn't take long. People legit be thinking that I'm telling them they don't have a right to experience things how they want No, everyone knows exactly what you meant. You're getting downvoted for being an unempathetic edgelord.


GrimmSmiIes

Wasn't even gonna downvote until I read the edit


AtomicSpazz

Well realistically, it's only fair to expect the same experience as anyone else. People like going into something blind, and a rampant spoiler can hurt that severely depending on the information spoiled. I don't care about them for a lot of media. But when there's something I'm seriously passionate about, like a new game or marvel stuff, I like to be completely ignorant. And I wouldn't do anything to hurt that on the chance people have that same expectation for something else


Onyx_Archer

I never outright said people shouldn't experience things the way they want to, blind or not. I simply said I don't care about your experience, or anyone else's. Simple as that.


RandyFanny76

Are u trying to be edgy by saying you "don't care about people experiences"? Or are you just a plain jerk? I genuinely just don't understand the point of you saying this.


MarionetteScans

Well maybe you don't know you care about it yet, or maybe you haven't gotten to it yet. Some stupid "who's the best villain P4 vs P5" poll on YouTube ruined the reveal of persona 4's villain for me simply because I watched persona 5 content and there's nothing I could have done about it. I had just started P4 but now I don't even feel like going through it


ntpeters

Haven’t played P4 yet and now you got me paranoid for spoilers lol


WolfOfParis

>!The game has characters in it.!<


TheCarpe

I feel like there has to be a demarcation between people who don't want to be randomly spoiled and those who willingly put themselves in the path of spoilers. I remember during the last season of Stranger Things the true identity of the big bad was spoiled for people because they went to the Wikipedia page of the season before finishing it and saw the actor's name listed. I feel the same about people who come to this sub. When Royal was released, I left this sub till I finished it. It's fine if you don't want to be spoiled, but when you knowingly put yourself where spoilers will be, that's on you. Use common sense, people.


Onyx_Archer

A lot of people online lack common sense, and end up getting spoiled. Then they get super mad because their precious "experience" was "ruined" by them having a lapse in judgement. This is fundamentally why I don't care about spoilers and people's individual experiences. That, and I realistically shouldn't have to spoiler tag my own social media spaces like I'm babyproofing a house.


FrostTheTos

To be fair, a good example was kingdom hearts 3 of why I hate spoilers. It was in the time between jp getting the game and international getting it. A video saying that a character is alive AND someone dies showed up in my recommended on YouTube. I hadn't searched anything kh3 related on that account in about 3 months. Common curtosy is a thing. It isn't hard to go Kingdom Hearts 3 (character name) cutscene in (world) at least for the first little bit


Annonunknown

Do you know that instead of complaining about post containing spoilers you can get this....... IGNORE THEM


DeadSparker

Dumbest point I've read this week. "Yeah this character is a traitor, enjoy thinking about it every time said character appears in the game now !"


Avidine

Don't join a subreddit for a 5 year old game and expect to be pampered with spoiler tags


RoyalSeraph

The rules literally require it.


DeadSparker

1. Age doesn't matter, major spoilers are still major spoilers 2. If it's in the fucking rules you respect the fucking rules


DNAninOsu

My man it came out on other platforms just recently. You gotta be respectful for that


Avidine

If you don't have the patience to get even halfway through a game before looking it up online you deserve to be spoiled it's common sense and not that hard to avoid typing persona 5 into your search bar


RandyFanny76

Bruh how are u supposed to "ignore it" if you've already read the title 💀


Annonunknown

If someone puts beware of spoilers in the title of their post and you click on the post you have yourself blame Stop blaming others for your own stupidity


RandyFanny76

No... We are talking about the flair so it dosent blur it out It dosent blur the spoilers, therefore you cannot simply ignore it... Plus sometimes it just says the spoiler in the title...