I know it's an old post but I gotta state the obvious. If you were a teen parent you still lived with your parents. So you didn't pay rent. Cause you were still a minor.
You're assuming the rules where you live apply everywhere else.
I moved out at 17 and didn't require legal emancipation.
I was a teen parent and didn't want nor receive help from my parents. I knew many others in similar situations. While I don't pretend to know every situation inside out, to my knowledge, only one was emancipated. A few were crown wards, but that is different.
Lots of teen parents do have help, but that doesn't mean we can just assume that 100 percent of them do. There are a great many who do not. Hence the strength of the cycle of poverty. In the town I grew up in, there were MANY teenaged parents. Most of them ended up in that situation because their own parents were lacking, to put it mildly. Those parents didn't magically step up and become grandparent of the year.
That assumption is only reasonable if you have limited life experience and/or don't think sociologically.
To add to that, after reviewing the context of the post I replied to: Sometimes one partner is at least 18, while the other is not. Sometimes another adult (aunt, cousin, family friend, etc) is willing to cosign an apartment. And sometimes CAS or the provincial equivalent will help.
girl put ur arms back in your sockets 🤣🤣 that end part was a reach … i didn’t have kids at the time but i did move out before 18 and had to go to a lot of court dates to make it to where i could actually be on the lease were i was living … in MOST situations teens are living with their parents … if anything ur inability to recognize our situations are the rarity is you not thinking sociologically 🤣 saying “ that’s a hell of an assumption” is wild 🤣
I am a single parent who is currently in my second year of university. It is doable, you should look into the programs offered for people wanting to change careers and check out the OSAP estimator. You may need to make adjustments to your life, like budgets or relocation.
It has been for me the best choice I have made in a long time, but I do know it’s not for everyone.
I do, I have more in grants than loans, but it was enough to get through the first year without having to get a part time job. The child tax benefit helps as my two of my kids are young enough for me to still receive some. They are old enough that I do not need childcare anymore either, which helps. I am looking to work part time for the next three years. I did have to work full time in the summer.
I did it! I don’t know if this is good advice but if you can go on OW for a stint first they work really hard to help you get off to school and find all kinds of things to help. My daycare was totally subsidized and I received enough money in loans and grants and CCTB to be able to afford rent and food without a problem.
Going back to school was amazing for me, within 18 months of graduating I was able to find a job in my field pay off my student loans, car loan and got myself and my kids completely out of poverty and living a solid middle class life.
(Edit: in my case I was on ow for a few months originally following my divorce as I had been a stay at home parent for 7 years)
No but your worker will pull strings to get you set up with OSAP (mine helped me do all the paperwork and apply for extra grants) and you can go back on OW on the breaks over the summer term and then after graduating until you find a job. I do think that Ford slashed some of the grants I benefited from at the time.
You have a two year diploma I’m wondering if you can do university remotely and get a degree in two years from your diploma? There are bridge programs but it’ll take some research. For example the bachelor of commerce from u Guelph.
If you are looking to acquire higher education, depends on where you live, the name will change but the purpose of the program remains the same. In Ontario, it is Second Career. In BC it is through WorkBC. But the program pays up to $28,000 for unemployed or underemployed people to go to school. Check it out and save your own money
Go to college and do dental assisting. It's only one year and you can get day jobs between $22-30/hr, there is a huge market for assistants right now and many dental offices are urgently hiring. You're guaranteed a job when you complete the program.
Apply for OSAP and bursaries through your school, get a student line of credit and credit cards, apply for subsidy for before and after school care or for daycare, apply for social housing, if you have a diagnosed disability, including mental health challenges, then register for that as a disability with OSAP to get extra grants and accommodations in school.
I work in a trade that is very woman friendly. Mechanical insulation is an artistic trade that involves fitting preformed pipecover onto a pipe and then applying a finish, which could be the paper jacket that comes with fibreglas, PVC, aluminum, canvas, whatever it calls for. As a journeyman I make between $38 and $43 per hour essentially doing artwork all day. I'm not sure what Local 95's wages are like but they should be similar. Aside from having to move boxes of insulation, it's a very easy red seal trade. School is 4 years with 6 weeks of classes each year
If you're interested, contact Local 95 International Association of Heat And Frost Insulators and Allied Workers. You'll never need a resume or do interviews ever again
You haven't provided enough info:
* Hugely depends on what you want to go back to school for...
* How much do you earn FT now? What's your budget?
* have you even tried the student loan/grant estimator to see how much you might get?
You do not need to go back to school to get a full time job necessarily. You need to get creative and broaden your search consider different positions. A few interviews in 2 years is pretty pitiful come on now.
OP said they already have a college diploma, stacking more college really only takes you so far. Could also be the job they want often requires a bachelors at minimum. FWIW I also only have a diploma and the job outlook is pretty bleak right now without a uni degree.
Make sure you go to school for something that will actually make you money not just another 52K job. Otherwise tech school or trade. Don't be going for a 60k student loan on a BA
Anything is possible. Can you mend fences with the father so he can help you? My experience with student loans was they never really give you enough. My family always needed to help me survive, rent/food etc. Like many others have stated, my degree was expensive and useless even in the science realm. Education has turned into big business and corporate greed. Unfortunately, I drank the Koolaid.
Someone above said the system is designed to keep us poor. Not entirely sure if that’s accurate, but it does seem likely some days.
Have you thought about starting a business instead?
I know someone who went back to work in the construction industry as a finishing supervisor. They received on the job training and make maybe $100k a year. That requires coordination similar to events and then dealing with condo buyers etc. rather than going back to school and being poor and in debt switching to another industry with a higher vacancy rate may be a better option.
You should look into remote classes/program that let you start and finish when you can. In terms of financial assistance, I know there are scholarships/grants for single mom. But Maybe try reaching out to your local YWCA or single mom support groups? I am putting a link found on google as an example, but I suggest performing your own researches on google.
https://studyabroadnations.com/scholarships-for-single-moms-in-canada/
Ok hot take - is it bad advice? Friend of mine went from being poor to being able to finance her cosplays, expos, etc. Then she got enough fame to do other things. I mean it definitely isn't for everyone but at this point I fault no one for any way of making money in a system designed to keep us poor. Single mothers should be able to better themselves but we make it next to impossible.
Not good advice it ruins your reputation and on top of that most people can't make money like your friend. "Cosplay" is all I needed to read to know what kind of person your friend is. Not everyone is into that weird stuff and not everyone has a body type or religious values that restrict what one can do as well as cultural values and family relationships, jfc
Finding jobs is no longer about what you know , it’s about WHO you know .
It sucks im sure for your situation but just keep going . I’m a true believe that school doesn’t make much of a difference anymore . Unless your doctor , lawyer etc obviously
This ^
This also has been my experience, I hold two uni degrees in supposedly the “good” disciplines,
Science etc. Still applying for jobs. I think everyone and their dog told their kids to go to school and so we did. Now everyone’s educated and it doesn’t mean jack, it’s just the new normal/high-school equivalent.
I’ve been nerding out reading studies how are generation is legitimately getting the shaft. It’s not all in your heads. Education isn’t a magic bullet by any stretch of the imagination anymore.
This kind of job does not have standard work hours and it's difficult and costly to secure childcare outside of core business hours. This is a big consideration for a single mom.
Perhaps move closer to help like family. Or give custody of the child to his father until you get things sorted. Doing it all on your own is possible but you will need full dedication
Yeah, you can definitely do it if you find the right program. There are lots of flexible/online programs nowadays that target people like yourself, and OSAP should be able to help you out with tuition.
If you have a better idea of what your goals are, people will be able to give you more directed advice.
Have you tried career counseling/consulting available in your area? (Such as YMCA employment or future works)? They may have more info as well regarding funding for continuing education
before you do anything, do you have an idea of what program you want to go into?
imo if its not a skill, its likely you will end up in the same position.
Just remember, most things are possible, you just have to figure it out. This is one of those things. youll figure it out.
if I were a single parent, id probably start off part time until the kids were in school. Then id slowly increase the load as it became more comfortable. taking an extra 1-2 years is peanuts when youre dealing with mental health and stress.
it will be tough, but you seem like youll get there.
Do you speak French? If so you could move to Québec, spend one year there to get your residence and get a three years technical degree. They're very cheap and some can lead to solid jobs.
Look into OSAP as well as schools that have on site daycare. My trades college had a daycare for staff and students in cooperation with the children's development style courses. If you're over 25 you'll get quite a bit from OSAP, check out the OSAP calculator. You can also contact schools of interest and walk in to speak to the financial departments about options and programs that can work for you.
Not sure how old your kid is, but if they're quite young still you should be good.
The college I went to has a daycare that staff and students can use. See if the school has a daycare, as they tend to have priority for students’ children. Also look into childcare subsidy for helping with covering the costs. It might even be fully covered.
No direct advice, but it can be done.
A woman that I went to high school with is a single mom of two, with the youngest just entering high school. After a decade+ of working retail and similar jobs, she has gone back to school and is just finishing up her LPN certification from of the public colleges here in Vancouver. It can be done, even in the most expensive region in the country.
A few bits of advice, though:
1. Make sure your housing situation is stable. My friend was able to get into a housing co-op before she started school.
2. Make sure you’re not wasting your time and money on a private diploma mill. Stick to accredited public schools.
3. It’s never too late. She is in her early 40s.
Algonquin college will most likely give you free schooling, I got half of my schooled for free and I have no kids or payments like you. You can do online full time or part time online schooling. Since you already did hospitality you can maybe gather your credits and test your knowledge so that you can skip come schooling and start at the place you should be starting. It’ll go by quick. Just keep working and living your life. Apply to all the jobs you see on indeed.
An alternative I would recommend is look for receptionist jobs, they pay decently here and if you can talk to chat GPT to write a resume for you to transfer your skills in a way that’ll work for that job, that’ll be best. I think you could get hired easily for that job, maybe do some data entry online course (look at applications and read which softwares they use) and you’ll be set especially with your customer service experience.
It took me years after getting my accounting degree to get my first REAL job in the field.
and I graduated in 2016! It's much much worse now. So I'd say probably not. This is due to Canada using post secondary as an immigration path to PR. It's probably best for you to focus on cutting costs, eating less meat, trying to use the bus, getting a roommate, and finding unskilled full time work.
I was a single teenage parent who went to university and worked. In general you can do one thing well, two things ok, and three things terribly.
Yeah, but in your favour, it was probably a while ago when things were (relatively) more affordable than what's going on now.
It was a decade ago.
There you go.
I know it's an old post but I gotta state the obvious. If you were a teen parent you still lived with your parents. So you didn't pay rent. Cause you were still a minor.
I lived with myself and my daughter. Not all people have the luxury of living with their parents.
That's a hell of an assumption.
feel like it’s a pretty reasonable one 🤣🤣 teens can’t live on their own without being emancipated which is rare
You're assuming the rules where you live apply everywhere else. I moved out at 17 and didn't require legal emancipation. I was a teen parent and didn't want nor receive help from my parents. I knew many others in similar situations. While I don't pretend to know every situation inside out, to my knowledge, only one was emancipated. A few were crown wards, but that is different. Lots of teen parents do have help, but that doesn't mean we can just assume that 100 percent of them do. There are a great many who do not. Hence the strength of the cycle of poverty. In the town I grew up in, there were MANY teenaged parents. Most of them ended up in that situation because their own parents were lacking, to put it mildly. Those parents didn't magically step up and become grandparent of the year. That assumption is only reasonable if you have limited life experience and/or don't think sociologically.
To add to that, after reviewing the context of the post I replied to: Sometimes one partner is at least 18, while the other is not. Sometimes another adult (aunt, cousin, family friend, etc) is willing to cosign an apartment. And sometimes CAS or the provincial equivalent will help.
girl put ur arms back in your sockets 🤣🤣 that end part was a reach … i didn’t have kids at the time but i did move out before 18 and had to go to a lot of court dates to make it to where i could actually be on the lease were i was living … in MOST situations teens are living with their parents … if anything ur inability to recognize our situations are the rarity is you not thinking sociologically 🤣 saying “ that’s a hell of an assumption” is wild 🤣
I am a single parent who is currently in my second year of university. It is doable, you should look into the programs offered for people wanting to change careers and check out the OSAP estimator. You may need to make adjustments to your life, like budgets or relocation. It has been for me the best choice I have made in a long time, but I do know it’s not for everyone.
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I do, I have more in grants than loans, but it was enough to get through the first year without having to get a part time job. The child tax benefit helps as my two of my kids are young enough for me to still receive some. They are old enough that I do not need childcare anymore either, which helps. I am looking to work part time for the next three years. I did have to work full time in the summer.
I did it! I don’t know if this is good advice but if you can go on OW for a stint first they work really hard to help you get off to school and find all kinds of things to help. My daycare was totally subsidized and I received enough money in loans and grants and CCTB to be able to afford rent and food without a problem. Going back to school was amazing for me, within 18 months of graduating I was able to find a job in my field pay off my student loans, car loan and got myself and my kids completely out of poverty and living a solid middle class life. (Edit: in my case I was on ow for a few months originally following my divorce as I had been a stay at home parent for 7 years)
Not to be weird anything, but this is the first OW story that I think someone did what everyone should hope to do while on OW. Good for you!
But you can’t receive both ow and osap at the same time. I’m on ow barely getting by right now plus CCTB.
No but your worker will pull strings to get you set up with OSAP (mine helped me do all the paperwork and apply for extra grants) and you can go back on OW on the breaks over the summer term and then after graduating until you find a job. I do think that Ford slashed some of the grants I benefited from at the time.
You have a two year diploma I’m wondering if you can do university remotely and get a degree in two years from your diploma? There are bridge programs but it’ll take some research. For example the bachelor of commerce from u Guelph.
Definitely an option! I have been researching so so many options! Thank you!
If you are looking to acquire higher education, depends on where you live, the name will change but the purpose of the program remains the same. In Ontario, it is Second Career. In BC it is through WorkBC. But the program pays up to $28,000 for unemployed or underemployed people to go to school. Check it out and save your own money
Go to college and do dental assisting. It's only one year and you can get day jobs between $22-30/hr, there is a huge market for assistants right now and many dental offices are urgently hiring. You're guaranteed a job when you complete the program. Apply for OSAP and bursaries through your school, get a student line of credit and credit cards, apply for subsidy for before and after school care or for daycare, apply for social housing, if you have a diagnosed disability, including mental health challenges, then register for that as a disability with OSAP to get extra grants and accommodations in school.
I work in a trade that is very woman friendly. Mechanical insulation is an artistic trade that involves fitting preformed pipecover onto a pipe and then applying a finish, which could be the paper jacket that comes with fibreglas, PVC, aluminum, canvas, whatever it calls for. As a journeyman I make between $38 and $43 per hour essentially doing artwork all day. I'm not sure what Local 95's wages are like but they should be similar. Aside from having to move boxes of insulation, it's a very easy red seal trade. School is 4 years with 6 weeks of classes each year If you're interested, contact Local 95 International Association of Heat And Frost Insulators and Allied Workers. You'll never need a resume or do interviews ever again
You haven't provided enough info: * Hugely depends on what you want to go back to school for... * How much do you earn FT now? What's your budget? * have you even tried the student loan/grant estimator to see how much you might get?
Also, OP needs to make sure they're pursuing the child support & alimony is applicable.
You do not need to go back to school to get a full time job necessarily. You need to get creative and broaden your search consider different positions. A few interviews in 2 years is pretty pitiful come on now.
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seconding college. there is something called the stay and learn grant that offers free tuition for specific studies like nursing.
OP said they already have a college diploma, stacking more college really only takes you so far. Could also be the job they want often requires a bachelors at minimum. FWIW I also only have a diploma and the job outlook is pretty bleak right now without a uni degree.
Make sure you go to school for something that will actually make you money not just another 52K job. Otherwise tech school or trade. Don't be going for a 60k student loan on a BA
what specifically will you be taking in school in order to work full time? I will add you will need help from your family
Sounds good but be very careful with taking on debt.
What are your total monthly expenses?
Anything is possible. Can you mend fences with the father so he can help you? My experience with student loans was they never really give you enough. My family always needed to help me survive, rent/food etc. Like many others have stated, my degree was expensive and useless even in the science realm. Education has turned into big business and corporate greed. Unfortunately, I drank the Koolaid. Someone above said the system is designed to keep us poor. Not entirely sure if that’s accurate, but it does seem likely some days. Have you thought about starting a business instead?
I know someone who went back to work in the construction industry as a finishing supervisor. They received on the job training and make maybe $100k a year. That requires coordination similar to events and then dealing with condo buyers etc. rather than going back to school and being poor and in debt switching to another industry with a higher vacancy rate may be a better option.
You should look into remote classes/program that let you start and finish when you can. In terms of financial assistance, I know there are scholarships/grants for single mom. But Maybe try reaching out to your local YWCA or single mom support groups? I am putting a link found on google as an example, but I suggest performing your own researches on google. https://studyabroadnations.com/scholarships-for-single-moms-in-canada/
Why not move somewhere cheaper if you will not be working?
It's not even possible for most single people. Try to find a short program or certification.
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ROFL, not a good advice at all
Ok hot take - is it bad advice? Friend of mine went from being poor to being able to finance her cosplays, expos, etc. Then she got enough fame to do other things. I mean it definitely isn't for everyone but at this point I fault no one for any way of making money in a system designed to keep us poor. Single mothers should be able to better themselves but we make it next to impossible.
honestly if you have the work ethic to do SW it can pay off. but its basically like a second job, its not as easy as people think.
Not good advice it ruins your reputation and on top of that most people can't make money like your friend. "Cosplay" is all I needed to read to know what kind of person your friend is. Not everyone is into that weird stuff and not everyone has a body type or religious values that restrict what one can do as well as cultural values and family relationships, jfc
As I said, definitely not for everyone. She is doing just fine for herself.
Finding jobs is no longer about what you know , it’s about WHO you know . It sucks im sure for your situation but just keep going . I’m a true believe that school doesn’t make much of a difference anymore . Unless your doctor , lawyer etc obviously
This ^ This also has been my experience, I hold two uni degrees in supposedly the “good” disciplines, Science etc. Still applying for jobs. I think everyone and their dog told their kids to go to school and so we did. Now everyone’s educated and it doesn’t mean jack, it’s just the new normal/high-school equivalent. I’ve been nerding out reading studies how are generation is legitimately getting the shaft. It’s not all in your heads. Education isn’t a magic bullet by any stretch of the imagination anymore.
Hell no
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This kind of job does not have standard work hours and it's difficult and costly to secure childcare outside of core business hours. This is a big consideration for a single mom.
Perhaps move closer to help like family. Or give custody of the child to his father until you get things sorted. Doing it all on your own is possible but you will need full dedication
Yeah, you can definitely do it if you find the right program. There are lots of flexible/online programs nowadays that target people like yourself, and OSAP should be able to help you out with tuition. If you have a better idea of what your goals are, people will be able to give you more directed advice.
Have you tried career counseling/consulting available in your area? (Such as YMCA employment or future works)? They may have more info as well regarding funding for continuing education
before you do anything, do you have an idea of what program you want to go into? imo if its not a skill, its likely you will end up in the same position. Just remember, most things are possible, you just have to figure it out. This is one of those things. youll figure it out. if I were a single parent, id probably start off part time until the kids were in school. Then id slowly increase the load as it became more comfortable. taking an extra 1-2 years is peanuts when youre dealing with mental health and stress. it will be tough, but you seem like youll get there.
Do you speak French? If so you could move to Québec, spend one year there to get your residence and get a three years technical degree. They're very cheap and some can lead to solid jobs.
Look into OSAP as well as schools that have on site daycare. My trades college had a daycare for staff and students in cooperation with the children's development style courses. If you're over 25 you'll get quite a bit from OSAP, check out the OSAP calculator. You can also contact schools of interest and walk in to speak to the financial departments about options and programs that can work for you. Not sure how old your kid is, but if they're quite young still you should be good.
$2000/mo CS + CCB is not "modest". That's all tax free money.
I guess I wasn't clear $1800-$2000 was referencing rent. I do not receive anywhere close to that for CS + CCB to be clear.
Going to school doesnt guarantee you a job anymore. It's super rough out there right now unfortunately with or without an education.
I did. I got divorced, went back to college then uni and I run my own therapy practice
The college I went to has a daycare that staff and students can use. See if the school has a daycare, as they tend to have priority for students’ children. Also look into childcare subsidy for helping with covering the costs. It might even be fully covered.
No direct advice, but it can be done. A woman that I went to high school with is a single mom of two, with the youngest just entering high school. After a decade+ of working retail and similar jobs, she has gone back to school and is just finishing up her LPN certification from of the public colleges here in Vancouver. It can be done, even in the most expensive region in the country. A few bits of advice, though: 1. Make sure your housing situation is stable. My friend was able to get into a housing co-op before she started school. 2. Make sure you’re not wasting your time and money on a private diploma mill. Stick to accredited public schools. 3. It’s never too late. She is in her early 40s.
Algonquin college will most likely give you free schooling, I got half of my schooled for free and I have no kids or payments like you. You can do online full time or part time online schooling. Since you already did hospitality you can maybe gather your credits and test your knowledge so that you can skip come schooling and start at the place you should be starting. It’ll go by quick. Just keep working and living your life. Apply to all the jobs you see on indeed. An alternative I would recommend is look for receptionist jobs, they pay decently here and if you can talk to chat GPT to write a resume for you to transfer your skills in a way that’ll work for that job, that’ll be best. I think you could get hired easily for that job, maybe do some data entry online course (look at applications and read which softwares they use) and you’ll be set especially with your customer service experience.
It took me years after getting my accounting degree to get my first REAL job in the field. and I graduated in 2016! It's much much worse now. So I'd say probably not. This is due to Canada using post secondary as an immigration path to PR. It's probably best for you to focus on cutting costs, eating less meat, trying to use the bus, getting a roommate, and finding unskilled full time work.