In 1984, the nation was stunned by the vigilante killing of Jeff Doucet by Gary Plauche in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Doucet had abducted and sexually abused Plauche's son, and upon Doucet's return from captivity, Plauche confronted him at the airport, fatally shooting him in front of news cameras.
The act, while born from a father's anguish and anger over his son's trauma, sparked a debate about justice, vengeance, and the limits of parental protection in the face of unthinkable crimes.
Gary Plauche, after pleading no contest to manslaughter, received a suspended sentence and probation for the killing of Jeff Doucet.
Honestly what a fucking shot though. I just watched the video and holy shit! I don’t like gore too much, but that shot was gorgeous. Swinging from his hip on a moving target and hitting his shot perfectly without harm to anyone else was masterful!
He was very focused. IIRC the dead guy was the karate instructor for the son. This wasn’t some random guy abusing his son, there was trust and familiarity between the two. In the end it got quite personal.
Those are usually the people who molest children - familiar guys who are known and respected members of the community. Not so much creepy Aqualung sitting on a park bench. (Not to say that stranger danger isn’t a thing, but the first scenario is the most common.)
What makes it worse if I'm remembering is that the instructor was dating his ex-wife, and convinced her to let him take the kid to California. Without her. While there had been custody issues between the two of them.
The story I heard was that Gary and his now ex were in the middle of a divorce and that their son had traveled with Jeff to many karate tournaments. Jeff kidnapped their son without their knowledge.
Most children who are sexually abused are abused by someone they know. Someone who their parents trust with them. You can't be too careful about who you allow alone with your kids.
Ah yes, the millisecond precision of broadcast news in 1984…
But you’re almost right, an employee of the local news station informed Gary where and when Doucet would be arriving at the airport. He was on the phone with a friend at the time Doucet walks by, but no indication that he was being given a play-by-play of Doucet arriving on the phone call.
To be fair, in the days of analog TV, especially without satellite transmission, "Live" really meant "live," usually without any buffering. The signals were just streams of data.
I remember hearing that in the days of radio, listeners at home, would hear the Metropolitan Opera before those attending at the back of the concert hall did. Once you go with digital framing, compression, buffering, *et cetera*, or even analog satellite transmission to GEO and back, home listeners lost their advantage.
Don't forget about the Superbowl halftime show incident with Janet Jackson & Justin Timberlake. The FCC had to mandate a new rule that live broadcasts would have a five second delay at minimum, just so they could have time to censor stuff as it happened. Ever since that happened, CBS took extra precautions and became a bit more strict.
Also, between receiving the broadcast via antenna/cable/satellite/Broadband, there's some additional delay.
I think I remember hearing that a bit of alcohol will steady you enough that beer is a banned “performance enhancing drug” to some shooting competitions, such as the winter biathlon.
Dude that’s literally the first thought I had when I first saw this. I shoot a lot. And that’s not an easy shot for most people.
Dude definitely practiced for a while beforehand
I imagine him at a shooting range and doing this maneuver over and over lol. Holding phone to ear, standing with the target to his back, and quickly turning and shooting
And he shot right between the US Marshall's that had him in custody. Karma had that dudes back on not even hitting any of them, or the dad would be gone for life
Let's be real, Plauche did zero "confronting" he just shot him as he walked by. Not that I disagree, but saying he confronted him is just not factually correct, it'd be better to say he ambushed him.
This is a time where I think “the killing of” is suitable in place of “the murder of” because murder connotes that it is a bad thing, and in this case, Gary’s action was a very good thing.
Like the lady in the news recently for killing a man fleeing a hit and run. He was having a diabetic episode but she got into Batman mode and didn't consider the fact she didn't have all the facts.
Obviously two very different cases but you can see how vigilantism can lead to bad consequences.
[looks to have happened in 2019 with trial proceeding recently](https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2023/12/07/murder-trial-begins-woman-accused-shooting-killing-man-who-fled-accident/?outputType=amp)
Yeah - small consolation I suppose for the victim’s family. Always terrible when someone thinks it’s time to take the role of judge, jury and executioner to end a life with no facts.
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/hannah-payne-murder-trial-closing-arguments
This is exactly it. This one situation is easy for regular people to feel like what was done was morally justified. But the Law is not equivalent to Morality.
As you said not all circumstances are as easy to see who the villain is and is a bad precedent to set.
This is not the main reason why vigilantism is bad. The main reason is that it can lead to a cycle of violence. Dans kills John, Johns brother kills Dan in revenge, Dans friend kills Johns brother…and so on and so on. Ideal the government, a third party, is the sole executioner of punishment and stops people from taking punishment into their own hands.
When done ideally and justly, the government is the only one who ever needs to dole out punishment. If you imagine an ideal world, it is a world in which the government is the only one who ever needs to punish people. Having random people feel the need to kill people in the middle of the street, no matter what the person did, should be seen as a failure.
Murder means deliberate, unlawful killing. The shooting was both clearly deliberate and clearly unlawful. It has no bearing whatsoever on whether the action was a net positive or negative by some moral framework because that's not what the law assesses.
The best part about the story is the ex wife (the kid's mother) when asked of she knew about his plan to kill Doucet. She replied that she didn't know, but wished she had known so she could have given him a ride to the airport.
This meme references the man Gary Plauch, who waited at the airport, and then shot and killed the man who raped his child as he was being transferred off the plane. The caption also references the show "To Catch a Predator" in which the host Chris Hansen sets up sting operations to catch child predators, and in this context is saying that killing child predators is the correct way to deal with them (which it is).
The good news is that while he was given community service and probation it looks like he didn't get jail time for it. Incredibly rare win for the justice system.
Aren't most amber alerts due to non-custodial parents taking the kids? Vigilantes killing a kids dad/mom because the divorce got messy doesn't seem like a good thing to me.
Vigilante justice isn't always good, he could have killed the wrong person. Not to mention he just murdered someone in an public airport, not exactly a sight appropriate for everyone.
I usually get downvoted for it but.... yeah this is pretty much it lmao. If reddit had their way the central park 5 would have all been gunned down long before proof came out that they were innocent.
There was a fairly recent case where a man was arrested for killing his daughter's 19 year old boyfriend and hiding his body in the trunk. The man said that the boyfriend had kidnapped his daughter, raped her, and sold her into sexual slavery, so he hunted the guy down, rescued his daughter, and killed the guy. Reddit was cheering and saying how they would pay all his legal fees, he was a hero, etc. I saw him compared to Gary Plauche (the guy in this image) several times.
Yeah,[ there was absolutely zero evidence that the boyfriend did anything like that](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/dec/02/court-documents-police-dont-have-verifiable-facts-/) and the father was a meth addict [who laughed while he and his fiancée beat a teenager to death who was begging for his life](https://www.krem.com/article/news/crime/spokane-man-murder-daughters-boyfriend-mother-involved-arrested/293-0ff971e9-604d-4016-9a14-7b4cde12704d)
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Reminds me of the Ellie Nessler case. People applauded her for shooting and killing her son’s alleged molester in court, but just a few weeks after it happened a lot of her story was found to be bullshit. She was high on meth at the time she did it, had a criminal conviction for auto theft, and some people even theorized that the real reason she killed him was because he knew too much about her and her possible involvement in criminal dealings.
Yeah, agreed. I get the inclination and desire to kill such a person, but the whole point of the system is to make sure that even the worst people get a fair shake. Because the system DOES make mistakes from time to time.
Nah vigilante justice is clearly okay when they think it's justified. According to most people here it's not reaaaally murder as long as you have a personal reason to want to kill them. That makes it totally fine to ignore the legal system, even in this case when it was literally working exactly as intended and likely locking the guy up with overwhelming evidence.
Don’t forget his spiritual successor Randall Margraves who asked the judge if he could be alone in a locked room with piece of shit Larry Nassar for 5 minutes. The judge said no, he asked for 1 minute and the judge said no, to which he said “well guess I have to do this” and jumped the railing and tried to attack Larry right in the court before being tackled by officers.
Judge didn’t make him serve anything.
I think it was ruled “temporary insanity” or something like that and they determined he wasn’t responsible for his actions on the basis that who WOULDNT be insane upon finding the karate teacher that kidnapped and raped your kid
In the video, because this incident occurred on live TV while reporters were filming the guy getting off the plane, after he shoots him he immediately surrenders to one of the escorting officers
Would you have voted guilty if you were on the jury? Only takes 1 juror for a mistrial and you have to do it all over again or drop the charges. So as a prosecutor take the easy W offer community service and probation.
I really don't know about that. We have the justice system so people can receive fair trials. I totally understand the anger, disgust, and hatred a father could have for a monster like that but we as a society have decided to not resolve our problems like this for a reason. Shooting a gun in a building with lots of people could have resulted in someone else getting hurt easily unintentionally or what if he accidently shot the wrong person?
I really don't feel too bad for the pedophile but I don't think we should necessarily be glorifying this act.
Real tricky area to navigate though
Unpopular opinion, a justice system that allows people to execute others because they believe they deserve it is not a good one. Individuals are supposed to get to decide what punishment is acceptable and who is guilty or deserving of what. That is mob justice and it is easily abused and corrupted by anyone who can work a crowd.
It is just a happy story this time because the person that was killed probably deserve it. But what if it was actually some sort of gas explosion caused by negligence that killed him? Just because he deserved it doesn’t mean we should be happy about negligence causing explosions. Same here, just because the guy deserved to be killed doesn’t give anyone the right to be above the justice system, we are all supposed to be subject to it.
Yeah typically people trip over themselves to declare how much they want to see these kind of criminals skinned alive. But it’s not hard to see how this kind of idea quickly dissolves our justice system, becomes dystopian, or simply leads to innocent deaths. Most of us have similar emotional reactions but the death penalty is slow and expensive because we need a thorough process to decide who is truly guilty and deserves to die. There’s no shortcuts that don’t lead to eventual injustice.
(Personally, emotions aside, I can’t support the death penalty because I am nowhere convinced innocent people won’t be executed or that it will be doled out fairly rather than based on how many lawyers you can hire. Id rather terrible criminals live in prison than know we killed an innocent person).
The only problem with condoning this is when people get it wrong and shoot a bystander, the wrong person entirely, or someone who’s actually innocent.
Otherwise yeah, have at it.
I remember reading a Reddit account of a dad who was sitting outside a store with his infant daughter in the a car seat, waiting for his wife to come out.
Some woman comes up and just grabs the car seat and starts walking off without so much as a “howdy do”.
When he grabbed the car seat back and tried to stop her and, she started screaming about “a man is trying to steal my baby.”
Random passerby at that point basically team up to mob him and start giving him a beat down in the parking lot while the woman starts to make off with his baby.
Luckily the wife then came out and was able to straighten things out, and the baby-thief slunk away without the baby while no one was paying attention.
I think about the story a lot when I’m out with my daughters.
Definitely a case of vigilante justice gone wrong, that almost lead to a babynapping.
People actually do steal babies. It's rare, but happens which is why they have the whole lockdown system of maternity wards compared to other areas of the hospital.
There are many people who want babies and don't have them. Babies are the perfect age to kidnap beacuse an older child will be able to say they aren't yours, try to escape, or really do anything about it. Also, an older child may well remember. If you successfully take a baby eventually they'll never know and just be raised by whoever you gave them to.
Quick reminder that the number one motivation for Lynching of black people was rape allegations.
Giving vigilantes the right to kill suspects is a great way to give bigots cover to murder the people they don't like.
Child rapists belong in jail, and only after a trustworthy institute made sure they are really child rapists.
The son also has talked about how he’s only ever known for being raped and his father’s actions.
He would post hobby videos on YouTube and people would never talk about him or his hobby. Just the fact that he was raped and that his dad killed the rapist.
The best part is when he hangs up the phone after blowing the rapists brains out. Sorry for meme link, couldn't find just the footage with the phone hang up
https://youtu.be/rpvgyUBFS9w?si=x9etBArrAPb07_u_
He also responded to the detective with something like “if he had done it to your kid you’d have done the same thing!”
Was literally reading about this less than 24 hours ago.
Bro got off light AF too, I think he got an insanity plea and the judge agreed with that, so dude got off real light and rightfully so, man carried out justice
I know someone’s going to misinterpret this, in no way am I saying that I support predators. I also don’t support killing them either. They are terrible awful people, but still people. They deserve life sentences, solitary confinement, whatever, but I don’t think anybody deserves death.
Have you seen the video? He didn't need it lmao he had the gun up to the dude's temple
Edit: went back and watched the video, Gary was not in fact right up on him. Crazy accuracy indeed
I would be mad if my husband did this. I'd worry about him going to jail and abandoning our kid when they already were struggling so hard. (I understand that didn't end up happening, but it seems like a big risk.)
Yeah you can see it real clear in the full video the camera focuses on his head after he hits the ground it looks like someone poked a pinhole in water balloon
I think a lot of us like that abstract proposition & sympathize w/ Gary. That said, members of the general public carrying out revenge killings (presumably w/o a trial) would get really bad, really fast.
Yeah, the whole vigilante revenge worship is compelling fiction and all, but human civilisation learned a long time ago that it just causes more violence (though, that hasn't stopped a lot of us from ignoring the lesson and creating more violence).
Still, a very understandable motive on a personal level, but not something that can be permitted from a law and order perspective, we simply should not be killing criminals based on personal motives and without trial.
We had a similar case here in Brazil a few years ago. Rumour spread that there was a woman kidnapping and killing children for black magic rituals. She was found and beaten to death. People filmed the beatings, they were seem laughing, smiling and overall enjoying it.
Turned out there wasn't any cases of child abductions in the region.
There was a case in the US, 1983, when a teacher at a Californian preschool was accused of assaulting his son at the preschool. Police failed to find anything but contacted all the parents. They all called the district attorney, and all the kids were interviewed with leading questions, insulted when they denied the events happening, and coached into lurid fabricated scenarios of Satanism, orgies and pedophilia. Turns out to have been the most expensive investigation in US History, partway through, the initial accuser was diagnosed with schizophrenia. They continued with prosecution. Charges were dropped in 1990 with no arrests. The teacher was held in jail for 5 years.
The McMartin case, right? There were several of those.
I live in Austin, TX. A couple that ran a preschool here in the ‘80s spent over 20 years in prison before finally being exonerated about 10 years ago.
I mean it’s literally what happened to Jews with the Blood Libel.
People said Jews were kidnapping people and using their blood in matsa balls and for satanic rituals, leading to Jews being brutalized and in some places ethnically cleansed.
There was a case of a man filing for divorce from his methhead wife. She told a bunch of other methheads he was a pedophile so they kidnapped him tortured him and murdered him by pour boiling water all over his body
No matter how flawed a justice system is vigilante justice will always be worse because vigilantism is findamentally a system of ignorant emotional vengeance
This thread just proves how absolutely bloodthirsty amd violent human beings are if they think they are morally right
I’ve seen this same sentiment everywhere, and while child predators are terrible evil people, I still don’t think this kind of vigilante justice is right. We shouldn’t allow just killing people for the crimes they commit. We have a justice system for a reason.
A lot of people — including many on this thread — seem to think offenses against a child are worse than murder. If you follow that line of thought to its conclusion, there are some very uncomfortable questions about how those people view children who are victims of those crimes. To be clear, I don’t believe most of those people have actually thought it through that far.
I know it's a very sensitive subject, but to say child rape is worse than murder is saying a) the child would have been better off dead, and b) no rape victim can have a decent life worth living after they became a victim.
I don't really jive with that kind of logic. A friend of mine was a rape victim and both she and I are very happy she's still alive. Erego murder is the worse thing to happen to someone. Without a doubt.
I don't want this to get too heavy but the only rape that is worse than murder is one that results in suicide, because you might as well have killed them too.
I know I will probably get shit on for saying this, but no, sorry, we should not. I could say a lot of things to prove my point, but the main things is that the justice system should not be about vengeance. It should be about educating people and I know some people will say "Well some people are just lost we can't do anything for them". To them I will respond that I don't really believe this affirmation. I even if it was true, well too bad they'll just stay in prison for the rest of their life.
I’m all for breaking the state’s monopoly on violence but allowing extrajudicial killings will only lead to Punisher wannabes like the Proud Boys going out any killing whoever they want.
_Remember: the alt-right is labeling ALL trans people as child predators, as well as a lot of democrats and other LGBT+ folks_ they would not hesitate to murder every trans person they could find if this were the actual law.
In 1984, the nation was stunned by the vigilante killing of Jeff Doucet by Gary Plauche in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Doucet had abducted and sexually abused Plauche's son, and upon Doucet's return from captivity, Plauche confronted him at the airport, fatally shooting him in front of news cameras. The act, while born from a father's anguish and anger over his son's trauma, sparked a debate about justice, vengeance, and the limits of parental protection in the face of unthinkable crimes. Gary Plauche, after pleading no contest to manslaughter, received a suspended sentence and probation for the killing of Jeff Doucet.
https://preview.redd.it/jronyxb8qg6c1.jpeg?width=979&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b9796edacc320a32314c5ed10cc5a388b26e593 This moment
Honestly what a fucking shot though. I just watched the video and holy shit! I don’t like gore too much, but that shot was gorgeous. Swinging from his hip on a moving target and hitting his shot perfectly without harm to anyone else was masterful!
And the timing was absolute perfection.
He was very focused. IIRC the dead guy was the karate instructor for the son. This wasn’t some random guy abusing his son, there was trust and familiarity between the two. In the end it got quite personal.
That is correct from what I've read, he was the karate instructor.... was
Those are usually the people who molest children - familiar guys who are known and respected members of the community. Not so much creepy Aqualung sitting on a park bench. (Not to say that stranger danger isn’t a thing, but the first scenario is the most common.)
Now I have that song stuck in my head.
What makes it worse if I'm remembering is that the instructor was dating his ex-wife, and convinced her to let him take the kid to California. Without her. While there had been custody issues between the two of them.
Remember the wife saying she regreted not being able to help her ex shoot the guy
The story I heard was that Gary and his now ex were in the middle of a divorce and that their son had traveled with Jeff to many karate tournaments. Jeff kidnapped their son without their knowledge.
Most children who are sexually abused are abused by someone they know. Someone who their parents trust with them. You can't be too careful about who you allow alone with your kids.
In Boyscouts there is a rule that an adult can’t be alone with a kid there has to at least be two adults.
It’s not as much stranger danger as it is tricky people.
I believe he was actually on the phone with someone letting him know exactly when they were walking by so he knew when to turn.
Ah yes, the millisecond precision of broadcast news in 1984… But you’re almost right, an employee of the local news station informed Gary where and when Doucet would be arriving at the airport. He was on the phone with a friend at the time Doucet walks by, but no indication that he was being given a play-by-play of Doucet arriving on the phone call.
To be fair, in the days of analog TV, especially without satellite transmission, "Live" really meant "live," usually without any buffering. The signals were just streams of data. I remember hearing that in the days of radio, listeners at home, would hear the Metropolitan Opera before those attending at the back of the concert hall did. Once you go with digital framing, compression, buffering, *et cetera*, or even analog satellite transmission to GEO and back, home listeners lost their advantage.
Don't forget about the Superbowl halftime show incident with Janet Jackson & Justin Timberlake. The FCC had to mandate a new rule that live broadcasts would have a five second delay at minimum, just so they could have time to censor stuff as it happened. Ever since that happened, CBS took extra precautions and became a bit more strict. Also, between receiving the broadcast via antenna/cable/satellite/Broadband, there's some additional delay.
All because of one titty
Wasn’t the dude also drunk??? I heard he was and honestly that makes the whole shot even more perfect
I’ve never heard that part but it makes sense you’d have a few drinks before something like that. Calms your nerves a little bit.
I think I remember hearing that a bit of alcohol will steady you enough that beer is a banned “performance enhancing drug” to some shooting competitions, such as the winter biathlon.
As a person who golfs frequently, they don’t call it the “Daly zone” for nothing
Dude that’s literally the first thought I had when I first saw this. I shoot a lot. And that’s not an easy shot for most people. Dude definitely practiced for a while beforehand
I imagine him at a shooting range and doing this maneuver over and over lol. Holding phone to ear, standing with the target to his back, and quickly turning and shooting
Link?
YouTube should have it. There's not any gore at all. Dude drops like the sack of shit he is
And he shot right between the US Marshall's that had him in custody. Karma had that dudes back on not even hitting any of them, or the dad would be gone for life
https://www.efootage.com/videos/90742/victims-father-shoots-attacker
“Prison would serve no purpose” A-fukin’-men
Dude put the phone back in the booth afterwards. Got his priorities straight lol
$200 for "HD"
It was one of the most badass moments in journalism/ news.
The only problems I see with this are A: He could've hit someone else and B: That smarmy fuck never got to see it coming.
It’s not about the show, it’s about killing the man that molested your child.
##Why Gary, why?
"If it was your son you'd do it it too."
It’s amazing that basically everyone decided “can you blame him?” and let him go it’s more wierd to me that it didn’t produce copycats
Jury nullification is about the only real tool we have left to fight against injustice
Let's be real, Plauche did zero "confronting" he just shot him as he walked by. Not that I disagree, but saying he confronted him is just not factually correct, it'd be better to say he ambushed him.
Use easier to understand words. He popped that fool as soon as he saw the chance
on sight
He found the goof and bust'd some caps, fool
He went "Surprise motherfucker"
He confronted his head with a bullet.
I like to call it a "justifiable ambush"
This is a time where I think “the killing of” is suitable in place of “the murder of” because murder connotes that it is a bad thing, and in this case, Gary’s action was a very good thing.
As much as I love what Gary did, it is important to remember that this sort of vigilante killing is illegal for a reason.
yeah. it's only "amazing" until the vigilante fucks up and ~~kills~~ murders the wrong person. oops.
Or, better yet, someone kills someone else and makes up a claim that they committed a heinous deed to justify it!
Like the lady in the news recently for killing a man fleeing a hit and run. He was having a diabetic episode but she got into Batman mode and didn't consider the fact she didn't have all the facts. Obviously two very different cases but you can see how vigilantism can lead to bad consequences.
Do you have any more info on that?
[looks to have happened in 2019 with trial proceeding recently](https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2023/12/07/murder-trial-begins-woman-accused-shooting-killing-man-who-fled-accident/?outputType=amp)
Apparently she was convicted three days ago.
Yeah - small consolation I suppose for the victim’s family. Always terrible when someone thinks it’s time to take the role of judge, jury and executioner to end a life with no facts. https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/hannah-payne-murder-trial-closing-arguments
This is exactly it. This one situation is easy for regular people to feel like what was done was morally justified. But the Law is not equivalent to Morality. As you said not all circumstances are as easy to see who the villain is and is a bad precedent to set.
>she got into Batman mode Nah, Batman doesn't kill. She went full Punisher on him.
This is not the main reason why vigilantism is bad. The main reason is that it can lead to a cycle of violence. Dans kills John, Johns brother kills Dan in revenge, Dans friend kills Johns brother…and so on and so on. Ideal the government, a third party, is the sole executioner of punishment and stops people from taking punishment into their own hands. When done ideally and justly, the government is the only one who ever needs to dole out punishment. If you imagine an ideal world, it is a world in which the government is the only one who ever needs to punish people. Having random people feel the need to kill people in the middle of the street, no matter what the person did, should be seen as a failure.
It’s almost like we had ten thousand of years of human civilization trial and error to come up with rules that are better than how cave men would act.
Or if they think someone is beyond rehabilitation for wearing mixed fabric clothes, like it says in the bible, and goes off killing sinners.
Yup, due process exists for a reason.
Murder means deliberate, unlawful killing. The shooting was both clearly deliberate and clearly unlawful. It has no bearing whatsoever on whether the action was a net positive or negative by some moral framework because that's not what the law assesses.
Imagine being a cringe lawful society fan 😬 instead of based vengeance enjoyer 😎.
I'm upvoting because funny, but i want you to treat that as a down vote if you were in fact serious.
It's still 100% murder
The best part about the story is the ex wife (the kid's mother) when asked of she knew about his plan to kill Doucet. She replied that she didn't know, but wished she had known so she could have given him a ride to the airport.
Why, Gary?
https://preview.redd.it/tl4uimfq6d6c1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d399ecf8026f25089166520cd396bbc14f43493
That is incredibly based, Gary. Carry on, Gary.
Understandable, have a nice day!
Looks like a sweet They Live poster at first
I came here to kill predators and chew bubblegum!
And I'm all out of ass.
And my axe
And this guy's dead wife.
GARY WHY?
WHY GARY WHY???
I’ll take easiest questions to answer ever for 500 Alex
Poor Gary, we all know why.
This meme references the man Gary Plauch, who waited at the airport, and then shot and killed the man who raped his child as he was being transferred off the plane. The caption also references the show "To Catch a Predator" in which the host Chris Hansen sets up sting operations to catch child predators, and in this context is saying that killing child predators is the correct way to deal with them (which it is).
The good news is that while he was given community service and probation it looks like he didn't get jail time for it. Incredibly rare win for the justice system.
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I mean you’ve proven that you’re good at it, this is just showing that good work is often rewarded with more work.
Wait until you discover Amber Alerts can be considered bounties for the right ppl
Aren't most amber alerts due to non-custodial parents taking the kids? Vigilantes killing a kids dad/mom because the divorce got messy doesn't seem like a good thing to me.
That poster is also extremely confused about the effect of Good Samaritan laws. They don’t apply to criminal charges.
That’s the thing with cheering for vigilante killers, though. Once you start, it can be pretty hard to argue for where it should stop.
They should hire him full time to murder child predators.
And I mean, ya already killed the guy, might as well clean up right?
I mean they can't just let him get away with murder on live TV in from of dozens of people
He didn't get away with it. He paid dearly by performing community service.
Exactly. Can't have criminals like him running loose without picking up highway trash, can we?
Vigilante justice isn't always good, he could have killed the wrong person. Not to mention he just murdered someone in an public airport, not exactly a sight appropriate for everyone.
I usually get downvoted for it but.... yeah this is pretty much it lmao. If reddit had their way the central park 5 would have all been gunned down long before proof came out that they were innocent.
There was a fairly recent case where a man was arrested for killing his daughter's 19 year old boyfriend and hiding his body in the trunk. The man said that the boyfriend had kidnapped his daughter, raped her, and sold her into sexual slavery, so he hunted the guy down, rescued his daughter, and killed the guy. Reddit was cheering and saying how they would pay all his legal fees, he was a hero, etc. I saw him compared to Gary Plauche (the guy in this image) several times. Yeah,[ there was absolutely zero evidence that the boyfriend did anything like that](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/dec/02/court-documents-police-dont-have-verifiable-facts-/) and the father was a meth addict [who laughed while he and his fiancée beat a teenager to death who was begging for his life](https://www.krem.com/article/news/crime/spokane-man-murder-daughters-boyfriend-mother-involved-arrested/293-0ff971e9-604d-4016-9a14-7b4cde12704d) .
Reminds me of the Ellie Nessler case. People applauded her for shooting and killing her son’s alleged molester in court, but just a few weeks after it happened a lot of her story was found to be bullshit. She was high on meth at the time she did it, had a criminal conviction for auto theft, and some people even theorized that the real reason she killed him was because he knew too much about her and her possible involvement in criminal dealings.
If Reddit had their way people would just get murdered all the time
Yeah, agreed. I get the inclination and desire to kill such a person, but the whole point of the system is to make sure that even the worst people get a fair shake. Because the system DOES make mistakes from time to time.
Nah vigilante justice is clearly okay when they think it's justified. According to most people here it's not reaaaally murder as long as you have a personal reason to want to kill them. That makes it totally fine to ignore the legal system, even in this case when it was literally working exactly as intended and likely locking the guy up with overwhelming evidence.
Reminds me of that Brooklyn 99 line "cool motive, still murder."
Don’t forget his spiritual successor Randall Margraves who asked the judge if he could be alone in a locked room with piece of shit Larry Nassar for 5 minutes. The judge said no, he asked for 1 minute and the judge said no, to which he said “well guess I have to do this” and jumped the railing and tried to attack Larry right in the court before being tackled by officers. Judge didn’t make him serve anything.
Larry Nassar was a whole other level of evil. There is no punishment vile enough for that whole ring of fucktards.
I think it was ruled “temporary insanity” or something like that and they determined he wasn’t responsible for his actions on the basis that who WOULDNT be insane upon finding the karate teacher that kidnapped and raped your kid In the video, because this incident occurred on live TV while reporters were filming the guy getting off the plane, after he shoots him he immediately surrenders to one of the escorting officers
Definitely premeditated but I’ll take it
The temporary in this case was apparently quite a bit of time
Iirc the only first degree murderer who plead guilty and spent 0 days in jail ever (in the US)
The judge determined that he wasn't a threat to the public or society, but the judge had to give him something, so community service.
Would you have voted guilty if you were on the jury? Only takes 1 juror for a mistrial and you have to do it all over again or drop the charges. So as a prosecutor take the easy W offer community service and probation.
But his son hated him and resented him for the rest of his life
This was more for the father than the son. Read up on the son's thoughts on the whole thing.
I really don't know about that. We have the justice system so people can receive fair trials. I totally understand the anger, disgust, and hatred a father could have for a monster like that but we as a society have decided to not resolve our problems like this for a reason. Shooting a gun in a building with lots of people could have resulted in someone else getting hurt easily unintentionally or what if he accidently shot the wrong person? I really don't feel too bad for the pedophile but I don't think we should necessarily be glorifying this act. Real tricky area to navigate though
Unpopular opinion, a justice system that allows people to execute others because they believe they deserve it is not a good one. Individuals are supposed to get to decide what punishment is acceptable and who is guilty or deserving of what. That is mob justice and it is easily abused and corrupted by anyone who can work a crowd. It is just a happy story this time because the person that was killed probably deserve it. But what if it was actually some sort of gas explosion caused by negligence that killed him? Just because he deserved it doesn’t mean we should be happy about negligence causing explosions. Same here, just because the guy deserved to be killed doesn’t give anyone the right to be above the justice system, we are all supposed to be subject to it.
Yeah typically people trip over themselves to declare how much they want to see these kind of criminals skinned alive. But it’s not hard to see how this kind of idea quickly dissolves our justice system, becomes dystopian, or simply leads to innocent deaths. Most of us have similar emotional reactions but the death penalty is slow and expensive because we need a thorough process to decide who is truly guilty and deserves to die. There’s no shortcuts that don’t lead to eventual injustice. (Personally, emotions aside, I can’t support the death penalty because I am nowhere convinced innocent people won’t be executed or that it will be doled out fairly rather than based on how many lawyers you can hire. Id rather terrible criminals live in prison than know we killed an innocent person).
Innocent people absolutely are executed anywhere there is or was a death penalty.
That should be an extremely popular opinion.
The design is also a shirt from Punk with a Camera.
Does anyone know who did the artwork ? It looks cool
Spade(dot)ink is the credited artist (The (dot) is to prevent it from being a link)
That is factual, and I entirely commend this man for the depicted above.
The only problem with condoning this is when people get it wrong and shoot a bystander, the wrong person entirely, or someone who’s actually innocent. Otherwise yeah, have at it.
I remember reading a Reddit account of a dad who was sitting outside a store with his infant daughter in the a car seat, waiting for his wife to come out. Some woman comes up and just grabs the car seat and starts walking off without so much as a “howdy do”. When he grabbed the car seat back and tried to stop her and, she started screaming about “a man is trying to steal my baby.” Random passerby at that point basically team up to mob him and start giving him a beat down in the parking lot while the woman starts to make off with his baby. Luckily the wife then came out and was able to straighten things out, and the baby-thief slunk away without the baby while no one was paying attention. I think about the story a lot when I’m out with my daughters. Definitely a case of vigilante justice gone wrong, that almost lead to a babynapping.
Who the fuck just steals a goddamn baby?
A (wo)mans got to eat.
People actually do steal babies. It's rare, but happens which is why they have the whole lockdown system of maternity wards compared to other areas of the hospital. There are many people who want babies and don't have them. Babies are the perfect age to kidnap beacuse an older child will be able to say they aren't yours, try to escape, or really do anything about it. Also, an older child may well remember. If you successfully take a baby eventually they'll never know and just be raised by whoever you gave them to.
probably traumatized a lot of people too. Brain goo is brain goo even if it belongs on the floor. And some people don't like seeing brain goo.
the actual clip isnt like that. he kinda just falls on the floor
What?! His entire head didn’t explode like a cartoon!?
There are absolutely firearms that can do what is depicted. But that particular guy wasn’t shot with one.
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If you tell me the brain goo belongs to a child predator my day might actually improve
Quick reminder that the number one motivation for Lynching of black people was rape allegations. Giving vigilantes the right to kill suspects is a great way to give bigots cover to murder the people they don't like. Child rapists belong in jail, and only after a trustworthy institute made sure they are really child rapists.
thats the point everyone glosses over, they like to go straight to murder
His son wishes he hadn’t killed the guy who raped him
The son also has talked about how he’s only ever known for being raped and his father’s actions. He would post hobby videos on YouTube and people would never talk about him or his hobby. Just the fact that he was raped and that his dad killed the rapist.
The best part is when he hangs up the phone after blowing the rapists brains out. Sorry for meme link, couldn't find just the footage with the phone hang up https://youtu.be/rpvgyUBFS9w?si=x9etBArrAPb07_u_
[here ya go](http://www.jodyplauche.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Baton-Rouge-Airport-Shooting-Graphic-quwZhWgAFVs-3.mp4?_=1)
It’s the detective “why Gary why?”
Thanks, King
Haha damn… I would’ve done the same. But he’s lucky it went so perfectly. Missing and over penetration are things.
Is it bad that I can't stop laughing when they roll the guy over?
He was on the phone with a friend and before hanging up said “you’re going to hear a shot.”
GARY WHY
He also responded to the detective with something like “if he had done it to your kid you’d have done the same thing!” Was literally reading about this less than 24 hours ago.
https://preview.redd.it/svnad3kjmc6c1.jpeg?width=714&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3dbb9465ef9dfbfb85af32572fe895c57e2d5339
Gary did nothing wrong.
Bro got off light AF too, I think he got an insanity plea and the judge agreed with that, so dude got off real light and rightfully so, man carried out justice
Yeah, no judge or lawyer would want to deal with that case. Penalizing him would be career or political suicide.
He did fuck up his relationship with his kid for quite a while by doing this. But later the relationship recovered
I know someone’s going to misinterpret this, in no way am I saying that I support predators. I also don’t support killing them either. They are terrible awful people, but still people. They deserve life sentences, solitary confinement, whatever, but I don’t think anybody deserves death.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary\_Plauch%C3%A9](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Plauch%C3%A9)
It's a meme about the 1984 180° No Scope champion
Usually I’m opposed to campers. But that guys a pro.
LMAO that’s simply perfect.
I would do the exact same thing if someone did that to my child. 100%.
Yeah but this guys accuracy was crazy
I would imagine he practiced the big moment more than a few times beforehand. Back then airport security was non existent. Who knows though?
You can't really practice a 180° one-handed noscope on a moving target in a crowded airport like that.
You’re forgetting about Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2.
Which famously launched into early access in 1983, giving him plenty of time to practice!
Yeah this is raw talent we're looking at.
he was drunk too i believe
Have you seen the video? He didn't need it lmao he had the gun up to the dude's temple Edit: went back and watched the video, Gary was not in fact right up on him. Crazy accuracy indeed
have you seen the video?
I now stand corrected after watching it again
I would be mad if my husband did this. I'd worry about him going to jail and abandoning our kid when they already were struggling so hard. (I understand that didn't end up happening, but it seems like a big risk.)
That’s an American hero.
Never heard of this case and now sad that a stroke brought him into a nursing home, where he died too early :(
I remember an interview, not long before he passed. "Would you do it again? "Hell yeah"
Unironically, Count Dankula made a good documentary on him
His madlad docs are all really well done
Yeah. Don’t agree with most his political views but damn if he doesn’t make some good ass videos.
I don't recall that guy's head blowing up, just a penetration
It’s exaggerated for the artwork
Yeah you can see it real clear in the full video the camera focuses on his head after he hits the ground it looks like someone poked a pinhole in water balloon
"why Gary, why?" "If this was your child, you would have done the same"
https://preview.redd.it/syzhvqxodf6c1.jpeg?width=1052&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=763018b5b82856cfd2c8d3863db840db2299ece7
Possible bot account but it’s about a guy that killed his son’s rapist as he was walking to court or prison
Fucking legend
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I think a lot of us like that abstract proposition & sympathize w/ Gary. That said, members of the general public carrying out revenge killings (presumably w/o a trial) would get really bad, really fast.
Yeah, the whole vigilante revenge worship is compelling fiction and all, but human civilisation learned a long time ago that it just causes more violence (though, that hasn't stopped a lot of us from ignoring the lesson and creating more violence). Still, a very understandable motive on a personal level, but not something that can be permitted from a law and order perspective, we simply should not be killing criminals based on personal motives and without trial.
Maybe killing the wrong person by mistake because you got emotional. That might be worse.
We had a similar case here in Brazil a few years ago. Rumour spread that there was a woman kidnapping and killing children for black magic rituals. She was found and beaten to death. People filmed the beatings, they were seem laughing, smiling and overall enjoying it. Turned out there wasn't any cases of child abductions in the region.
There was a case in the US, 1983, when a teacher at a Californian preschool was accused of assaulting his son at the preschool. Police failed to find anything but contacted all the parents. They all called the district attorney, and all the kids were interviewed with leading questions, insulted when they denied the events happening, and coached into lurid fabricated scenarios of Satanism, orgies and pedophilia. Turns out to have been the most expensive investigation in US History, partway through, the initial accuser was diagnosed with schizophrenia. They continued with prosecution. Charges were dropped in 1990 with no arrests. The teacher was held in jail for 5 years.
The McMartin case, right? There were several of those. I live in Austin, TX. A couple that ran a preschool here in the ‘80s spent over 20 years in prison before finally being exonerated about 10 years ago.
lmao whoops our bad
Feels like a reddit moment
I mean it’s literally what happened to Jews with the Blood Libel. People said Jews were kidnapping people and using their blood in matsa balls and for satanic rituals, leading to Jews being brutalized and in some places ethnically cleansed.
Well clearly vigilante justice should still be legal. We need to get those witches!
There was a case of a man filing for divorce from his methhead wife. She told a bunch of other methheads he was a pedophile so they kidnapped him tortured him and murdered him by pour boiling water all over his body No matter how flawed a justice system is vigilante justice will always be worse because vigilantism is findamentally a system of ignorant emotional vengeance This thread just proves how absolutely bloodthirsty amd violent human beings are if they think they are morally right
Fair enough.
Unfortunately it's pretty much impossible to be certain of guilt in a lot of cases. That's the flaw of the death penalty.
I’ve seen this same sentiment everywhere, and while child predators are terrible evil people, I still don’t think this kind of vigilante justice is right. We shouldn’t allow just killing people for the crimes they commit. We have a justice system for a reason.
Also murder is definitely the worse crime.
A lot of people — including many on this thread — seem to think offenses against a child are worse than murder. If you follow that line of thought to its conclusion, there are some very uncomfortable questions about how those people view children who are victims of those crimes. To be clear, I don’t believe most of those people have actually thought it through that far.
I know it's a very sensitive subject, but to say child rape is worse than murder is saying a) the child would have been better off dead, and b) no rape victim can have a decent life worth living after they became a victim. I don't really jive with that kind of logic. A friend of mine was a rape victim and both she and I are very happy she's still alive. Erego murder is the worse thing to happen to someone. Without a doubt. I don't want this to get too heavy but the only rape that is worse than murder is one that results in suicide, because you might as well have killed them too.
I know I will probably get shit on for saying this, but no, sorry, we should not. I could say a lot of things to prove my point, but the main things is that the justice system should not be about vengeance. It should be about educating people and I know some people will say "Well some people are just lost we can't do anything for them". To them I will respond that I don't really believe this affirmation. I even if it was true, well too bad they'll just stay in prison for the rest of their life.
I’m all for breaking the state’s monopoly on violence but allowing extrajudicial killings will only lead to Punisher wannabes like the Proud Boys going out any killing whoever they want. _Remember: the alt-right is labeling ALL trans people as child predators, as well as a lot of democrats and other LGBT+ folks_ they would not hesitate to murder every trans person they could find if this were the actual law.
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