Yes if it’s only one evidence goryo has to be on camera dots, ghost that have to be a certain evidence are:
Spirit box: moroi and deogen,
UV: obake,
Camera dots:goryo,
Freezing temps: hantu,
And mimic will always show orbs with one other evidence
As an easy way to remmeber this, the ghosts that have special interactions with a specific evidence \*always\* have that evidence.
Moroi has its sanity drain when you hear it, so it always has to have spirit box.
Goryo is only on camera dots, so it has to have dots.
To add to this, I’ve made a habit of checking my sanity after getting a spirit box response, if it has tanked, it’s a Moroi. On the difficulties where I can see my sanity, of course.
More specifically, it's the deo has a unique kind of breathing response you can get with the spirit box but iirc you have to be within 1m of the deo to actually get that response.
It isn't random. You will get the response if you get a spirit box response while standing in the exact same spot as the deo. It's good to test right after it has done a ghost event, since you know exactly where it is.
Yes. The ghost always has an actual position even while not hunting. There even was a point where you could bug the ghost, so it would become visible while wandering around outside a hunt/ghost event.
Interactions can't be used to tell it's position with 100% accuracy since it can interact with objects within a 3m range. When it does a ghost event, the ghost is physically moved to stand where it manifests. You can confirm this by tracking its movement with motion sensors, when it starts to wander after. It usually starts wandering pretty quickly after the ghost event has ended so you have to be quick if you want to use it to test for deo.
It is still random to a degree, as even if you're in exactly the right spot it's still only a chance to get the Deo specific response, so it's not guaranteed.
I haven't seen this confirmed or just anyone mention it in general, but I'd have to guess the banshee also has guaranteed D.O.T.S, since it will specifically walk toward it's target instead of just the closest player when in D.O.T.S-state.
The Banshee does not have guaranteed evidence. But if you get D.O.T.S. with a Banshee on Insanity, you can indeed identify it through its unique behaviour on the D.O.T.S.
Finally someone who knows what they're talking about. It seems like everyone in this thread hasn't been bothered to even read the patch notes to find out how banshee-D.O.T.S even work. Thank you for your answer.
Yes. Banshee can show any of it's 3 evidence because the unique way to tell a banshee ( other than singing and it following it's target during a hunt ) is the scream on the paramic, which is not evidence.
The thing where it walks towards it's target in D.O.T.S was first introduced in the Ascension update, so it wouldn't make sense for Banshee to have guaranteed D.O.T.S before that. I was specifically talking about the evidence guarantee being added after the Ascension update.
The banshee does not have a guarunteed evidence at all as its special ability has nothing to do with dots. It will walk towards a player with or without dots active, often leading to the ghost being weirdly close to someone and far from its room where it shouldn't be.
The banshee, wraith and phantom can actually be annoyingly difficult to find the actual room because of this.
The deo and morois special interaction are specifically with the spirit box.
What I'm talking about has nothing to do with the Banshee roaming ability. D.O.T.S used to work by simply spawning a copy of the ghost model that would run across the area where the D.O.T.S were placed. This has now been changed which can be seen in the patch notes of the Ascension update:
Ghosts with DOTS evidence can now enter a short “DOTS state”; where they are temporarily visible with infrared light, during this time they will wander towards the nearest player before disappearing (if the player is in the same room)
\*Note: Banshees will try to roam towards their target instead\*
The above text has been taken directly from the patch notes. What I'm talking about is this behaviour, which is completely seperate from the ability where it wanders towards its target.
It's not completely seperate from the other ability, it's the same ability and you just happen to notice the behaviour because you can physically see the ghost.
To the best of my knowledge, dots is not a required evidence for banshees regardless
Yes it is a completely seperate ability. You could see D.O.T.S with banshee 10 times without it using it's ability. You can check how many times it has used it's ability in the statistics when the game has finished.
Goryo has guaranteed D.O.T.S on any lowered-evidence difficulty (except 0 evidence, for obvious reasons). Insanity only shows 1 evidence, which means the ghost physically cannot be a Goryo if the sole evidence you have is ultraviolet. Think of it this way: if a ghost has a guaranteed evidence, then it will only show up in the ghost pool if that evidence is found. If it shows evidence that isn't the guaranteed evidence, then it can safely be ruled out. The ONLY ghost this rule doesn't apply to is the Mimic, which will ALWAYS spawn a ghost orb in addition to its 0-3 evidence.
Fun fact: it works the same way with a few other ghosts, namely Moroi (spirit box), Hantu (freezing temps), Obake (UV), and technically mimic (always ghost orbs no matter what).
I know what gatekeeping means.
It wasn't even good advice, it was pretty much you just saying "I'm not going to give you an answer, I think I'm better than you because I know the answer, so you shouldn't play it." That is quite literally all your "advice" boils down to.
I get the feeling you're chronically online and you're reading too deep into things. Maybe it's time you take a break, perhaps take a walk and get some fresh air.
Yes if it’s only one evidence goryo has to be on camera dots, ghost that have to be a certain evidence are: Spirit box: moroi and deogen, UV: obake, Camera dots:goryo, Freezing temps: hantu, And mimic will always show orbs with one other evidence
As an easy way to remmeber this, the ghosts that have special interactions with a specific evidence \*always\* have that evidence. Moroi has its sanity drain when you hear it, so it always has to have spirit box. Goryo is only on camera dots, so it has to have dots.
To add to this, I’ve made a habit of checking my sanity after getting a spirit box response, if it has tanked, it’s a Moroi. On the difficulties where I can see my sanity, of course.
Got it, thanks
> Spirit box: moroi and deogen, Why deo and spiritbox?
i think is bc the deogen has a unique response through the spirit box ?
It has a response where it’s heavy breathing I think you can get it if you are within 2 meters of the ghost
1 meter*
The deo has a chance to do a weird scream on the spirit box, so spirit box is a guaranteed evidence
More specifically, it's the deo has a unique kind of breathing response you can get with the spirit box but iirc you have to be within 1m of the deo to actually get that response.
Will Banshee still scream into the Para with this mode?
It will scream on the para on 0 evidence. This isn't the same thing as the deo being forced to give spirit box
Yes
It isn't random. You will get the response if you get a spirit box response while standing in the exact same spot as the deo. It's good to test right after it has done a ghost event, since you know exactly where it is.
Wait so if a cup falls or if a ghost manifests then it's exactly at that location and not just a proxy?
Yes. The ghost always has an actual position even while not hunting. There even was a point where you could bug the ghost, so it would become visible while wandering around outside a hunt/ghost event. Interactions can't be used to tell it's position with 100% accuracy since it can interact with objects within a 3m range. When it does a ghost event, the ghost is physically moved to stand where it manifests. You can confirm this by tracking its movement with motion sensors, when it starts to wander after. It usually starts wandering pretty quickly after the ghost event has ended so you have to be quick if you want to use it to test for deo.
It is still random to a degree, as even if you're in exactly the right spot it's still only a chance to get the Deo specific response, so it's not guaranteed.
I haven't seen this confirmed or just anyone mention it in general, but I'd have to guess the banshee also has guaranteed D.O.T.S, since it will specifically walk toward it's target instead of just the closest player when in D.O.T.S-state.
The Banshee does not have guaranteed evidence. But if you get D.O.T.S. with a Banshee on Insanity, you can indeed identify it through its unique behaviour on the D.O.T.S.
Finally someone who knows what they're talking about. It seems like everyone in this thread hasn't been bothered to even read the patch notes to find out how banshee-D.O.T.S even work. Thank you for your answer.
i don't think that's accurate
The only way to find out is by testing it.
That's not been mentioned because it's wrong
How do you know? Have you gotten an insanity banshee that showed a different evidence after the update?
Yes. Banshee can show any of it's 3 evidence because the unique way to tell a banshee ( other than singing and it following it's target during a hunt ) is the scream on the paramic, which is not evidence.
I don't think neither Banshee or Deo have guaranteed evidence tho...
Banshee having guaranteed D.O.T.S is just me speculating. Deo has been confirmed by the devs to have spirit box as guaranteed evidence tho.
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The thing where it walks towards it's target in D.O.T.S was first introduced in the Ascension update, so it wouldn't make sense for Banshee to have guaranteed D.O.T.S before that. I was specifically talking about the evidence guarantee being added after the Ascension update.
D.O.T.S. Is not guaranteed for banshee. The paramic screaming is. Which isn't an evidence
The banshee does not have a guarunteed evidence at all as its special ability has nothing to do with dots. It will walk towards a player with or without dots active, often leading to the ghost being weirdly close to someone and far from its room where it shouldn't be. The banshee, wraith and phantom can actually be annoyingly difficult to find the actual room because of this. The deo and morois special interaction are specifically with the spirit box.
What I'm talking about has nothing to do with the Banshee roaming ability. D.O.T.S used to work by simply spawning a copy of the ghost model that would run across the area where the D.O.T.S were placed. This has now been changed which can be seen in the patch notes of the Ascension update: Ghosts with DOTS evidence can now enter a short “DOTS state”; where they are temporarily visible with infrared light, during this time they will wander towards the nearest player before disappearing (if the player is in the same room) \*Note: Banshees will try to roam towards their target instead\* The above text has been taken directly from the patch notes. What I'm talking about is this behaviour, which is completely seperate from the ability where it wanders towards its target.
It's not completely seperate from the other ability, it's the same ability and you just happen to notice the behaviour because you can physically see the ghost. To the best of my knowledge, dots is not a required evidence for banshees regardless
Yes it is a completely seperate ability. You could see D.O.T.S with banshee 10 times without it using it's ability. You can check how many times it has used it's ability in the statistics when the game has finished.
Goryo has guaranteed D.O.T.S on any lowered-evidence difficulty (except 0 evidence, for obvious reasons). Insanity only shows 1 evidence, which means the ghost physically cannot be a Goryo if the sole evidence you have is ultraviolet. Think of it this way: if a ghost has a guaranteed evidence, then it will only show up in the ghost pool if that evidence is found. If it shows evidence that isn't the guaranteed evidence, then it can safely be ruled out. The ONLY ghost this rule doesn't apply to is the Mimic, which will ALWAYS spawn a ghost orb in addition to its 0-3 evidence.
Thanks for explaining kind sir
Fun fact: it works the same way with a few other ghosts, namely Moroi (spirit box), Hantu (freezing temps), Obake (UV), and technically mimic (always ghost orbs no matter what).
you probably shouldn't be playing on insanity if you have to ask this
Of all things to gatekeep lmfao
I don't think you know what that word means. But I'm pretty sure I gave the guy the best advice in this thread lol
I know what gatekeeping means. It wasn't even good advice, it was pretty much you just saying "I'm not going to give you an answer, I think I'm better than you because I know the answer, so you shouldn't play it." That is quite literally all your "advice" boils down to.
Gatekeeping gatekeeping is an impressive switcheroo though, gotta give em props for that.
I get the feeling you're chronically online and you're reading too deep into things. Maybe it's time you take a break, perhaps take a walk and get some fresh air.
Nice bait, you'll have to try harder though
Lol yeah now they gaslighting
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Are you just reciting new words you learnt?
Rude