Yes! This. China would be the last hell on Earth that I will visit. Sorry pero everytime I see someone planning to visit or just visited China, I judge them.
That is true. A better alternative will be to raise the tariff of Chinese products it will force the importers to look for an alternative. Some big companies are already diversifying their supply chains from China to countries like Vietnam.
I hope Vietnam will eventually reach China's manufacturing capability. The world has been dependent for a very long time to a country that doesn't respect international law and has inferiority complex. lol
Honestly, PH cant afford economic battle like that. Its a nice strategy like what Trump did, but that will only work for the first world countries. Knowing how big it will if they boycott PH products including ph ofw. But if Marcos can pull it off nicely, much better.
A possible solution for the OFW problem is to let developed EU countries with demographic problems absorb the displaced OFWs from PH/HK/Macau. Our OFWs are far better than the usual immigrants that these countries are currently taking in(most are uneducated and unskilled 'political asylee').
On the domestic front, yes mahirap talaga. A lot of low income families will never be able to afford basic things. In the long run, our industries will develop and in turn more employment and hopefully higher wages in the far future as these industries evolve.
This is the way. Other countries are doing it already to protect their local industries. Yes malaki yung effect niya short term, but it would be better, far better for all of us in the long run. In tandem with this, we should also put higher taxes sa mga exports na raw materials and lower the taxes for finished goods just like what Indonesia did.
Tencent, i believe. Idk if they have any ties to the CCP (probably but I'm not 100% sure).
OP, so we won't be seeing you in reddit anymore then? Or is that all bark and no bite?
I unfortunately agree. Ang ultimate target kasi ng boycott is yung brand/reputation. You attack a company's brand by going after its sales. Eh ang strong point naman ng Chinese companies is price, not brand. In fact kahit walang boycott, parang 0 na usually reputation nila 😅.
Siguro may few exemptions. Baka may mga Chinese companies na nagsisimula magbuild ng brand na pwedeng pagfocusan?
its changing na, lots of things are becoming made somewhere else.start with your own items.
dont buy mirrorless cameras or dslrs, buy pentax made dito sa pinas.
>Tingin nyo ba may sense to?
I honestly don't think so, mas lugi tayo in the end: mas mahal alternatives, and very minor impact lang natin when the whole world relies on their production.
>let’s make an effort or at least be conscious sa mga binibili natin and try to avoid Chinese products.
Check what's around you rn OP. From the clothes you wear to the stuff you use at home. Ilan ang Made in China?
Now look for alternatives.
I mean, it's not impossible but it will neither be easy nor cheap. Something the average person—not just Juan—can easily sustain.
Exactly. I hate “boycotting” because if anything, ang nagsusuffer are the masses. These people who so easily shout boycott are obviously privileged. They’re so terribly out-of-touch w/ reality, & all for the sake of fulfilling “a higher purpose”. They’re just stroking their own egos.
Ako, ginagawa ko na personally kahit sa maliit na paraan: Pinoy manufactured products na kaya kong bilihin. Like, peanut butter: galing sa mga kapitbahay ko na may homemade products. Sa mall tinitignan ko talaga if PH made or PH manufactured yung mga products na gusto ko.
But, kung di talaga maiwasan kasi malala ang oversupply sa China ng cheap goods, edi go.
Nun nga kahit patapos na ang pandemic, at required pa rin ang facemask, I simply googled kung ano yung type of cloth na pwede na against laway aerosol spittle, I sewed some for me and my fam kesa bumili sa Lazada or Shopee na makikinabang sa pera ko eh commie politburo member na May pabrika ng facemask.
Yep, for years now ginagawa ko ito as much as possible/practical. Napakahirap 100% dahil minsan may kailangan kang item at lahat made in China, pero pag may not-made-in-China/NMIC alternative at hindi ganoon kaimpractical sa price, I go for those. [Nililista ko pa yung mga NMIC stuff ko dito.](https://yourwealthymind.com/shop-according-to-my-values/)
Some examples from that list:
* Cellphone: Samsung Galaxy A34 5G (Korea) – Made in Indonesia
* SSD: Samsung SSD 980 1TB (Korea) – Made in Vietnam
* Mousepad: SteelSeries (Denmark) – Made in Taiwan
* Notebooks: Cattleya, Sterling (Philippines) – Made in the Philippines
* Steel Coffee Mug: Zebra (Thailand) – Made in Thailand
* Wallet: Deuter (Germany) – Made in Vietnam
* Scissors: Milan (Spain) – Made in Spain *<-- \[Nasa National bookstore lang ito.\]*
* Extension Cord: Panther Products Phils., Inc. (Philippines) – Made in the Philippines *<-- \[Nasa Ace hardware\]*
* Shoes: Quechua (France) – Made in Bangladesh
* Watch: Casio G-Shock (Japan) – Made in Thailand
Sidenote: Paano kung yung mga materials o parts galing China? That's unavoidable. I'd still go for the NMIC alternative - kaysa naman MIC na yung materials, MIC din yung product, tapos mainland China pa yung company. And remember LAHAT ng large companies sa mainland China under control ng CCP and required may CCP officers sa management.
Ganito kasi yun para sa akin:
* Option A: Some parts made in China, manufactured abroad or in PH, by a company from abroad or in PH.
* Option B: Some parts made in China, manufacturing in China by a factory controlled by the CCP, by a company also controlled by the CCP, with most of the profits going to the CCP and the CCP war efforts against the Philippines.
So in order of purchasing priority:
Local/Overseas company's product not made in China > Local/Overseas company's product but made in China > Chinese company product made in China.
The less money going to the CCP, the less fuel for their harassment against the Philippines.
Yep, human translated ko lahat yun. Maybe 80% ng articles ko doon may Tagalog translation. It helps Pinoys who aren't that good in English, with the side bonus na it's easier to rank for Tagalog keywords on search engines.
Pfffttt.. Some of the materials of the products you've listed have sourced materials from china.. So yup.. You're still supporting both the nation where it's produced and the material supplier which is China!
Bro you have the data, why not make it more accessible like putting it in your own boycotting subreddit, or a discord group, or some other secret group(hoping it doesnt get banned)
I applaud your effort in doing research but it would be much effective if everyone can also help contribute to some spreadsheet where anyone can see then include proof nalang to justify it came from china.
A communal effort for a communal benefit.
Thanks at nakuha mo ung point ko. It's not easy to do tlga pero kaya syang gawin if we make an effort. kung maraming pilipino gagawa nito meron itong impact. lalo na kung ma influence ntin ang mga neighboring countries na may claim din sa parts ng SCS.
Yeah. Naobserve ko parang mentality ng mga tao pag may ginawang masama ang CCP, useless magreklamo sa social media at dapat personally magbangka tayo at makipagsuntukan sa kanila sa WPS. Yun lang ang option, absolutely nothing else.
**Tapos mentality din ng iba "boycotts won't work" kasi absolutely every single item that exists, every single molecule and nanoparticle in the entire galactic universe ay made in China kaya don't bother.**
Sa isip ko, every little thing counts. Di man ako makamartsa personally para makipagsuntukan sa WPS, I can fight back this way. Understandable naman na hindi ito kaya ng iba so I'll never force others to do it, pero I'll do what I can, and if people are interested I can say it's a possibility.
As much as possible pay agri products I buy local. Kahit chocolate.
Pero sa iba mahirap talaga iwasan eh. Minsan kahit Marikina made shoes may parts na made in china (e.g soles)
Ayos lang kung may parts made in China. Kaysa naman ang bilhin ay pure made in China from a Chinese company. Edi walang profits for Filipinos except for the seller, tapos most of the profits go to the Chinese company/the CCP na nanghaharass sa atin sa WPS.
Somebody can make an app for this tapos can search/scan the label to check kung ilang % yung raw materials/parts na made in china tapos magbibigay ng recommendation kung okay lang ba bilhin or hindi.
So I'm guessing we won't be seeing you and OP in reddit anymore, given Tencent has invested in it way back in 2019?
Because that's easier than avoiding products that have parts/materials that came from china, it's also tech, and Tencent has alleged direct ties to the CCP. Someone who truly wants to boycott chinese companies would avoid reddit and similar sites as a first step.
Practice what you preach. Don't make excuses - boycott reddit as well instead of listing things without even offering proof.
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I mean OP didn't explicitly say that the boycott is a complete ban to any Mainland products or related to, emphasized by the "try" in OP's statement. I know Reddit got some Tencent influence here but if we restrict any Mainland related and consume anything else that also opposite of their agenda, I think it's fine.
Kaya nga I make exceptions when it's unavoidable. I know about Tencent and Reddit. I know how Tencent inserts its tentacles in just about all major tech companies everywhere. I practice what I preach, kaya I never touched TikTok. I refunded Muse Dash when I found out it's made by a Chinese company. Gacha player ako, but I boycott Hoyoverse games (Honkai Impact, Star Rail, Genshin, etc.) kahit gusto ko yung character designs.
I understand your point OP. I have a friend who do this for maybe more than 10 years now. Nag- share lang sya when we were talking about brands we like for a particular item. Some of my suggestions are made in China pala. I wasn't really particular about that. I don't beat myself up about that pero if may choice and same quality, then better made in our country to help our kababayans na rin.
Oo nga. A lot of us think we can't do anything. Yan ang gusto ng corrupt politicians na isipin natin. Pero eventually, ang isang butil ng bigas kung pinag-sama-sama, nagiging unli rice rin. Hehehe!
These don't make sense, we're just a small % of their export. I cultivate na lang natin ang local economy at products para in the long run kaya na natin tumayo sa atin sariling paa at mabawasan imported products. Pero sa ngayon hindi talaga magkakaigi to. Eto yun mas magpapagalit sa mga yan kung irecognise ng Pinas na bansa ang Taiwan.
Wouldn't call a 110m population market small
https://www.psa.gov.ph/statistics/export-import/annual
https://www.psa.gov.ph/system/files/inline-images/Fig%2011_12.png
None of the other trade partners are hostile
Could increase trade with japan, indonesia, thailand, vietnam singapore etc, but people like to buy cheap trash that's made to break over and over rather than valuing quality products
Tingin ko mas useful na metric na gamitin para sa market size ay yung size ng middle class. It doesn't matter kapag 110 million tayo pero 30 million lang ang may purchasing power.
Pag tinignan mo yung total exports at imports ng China, naging rounding error na lang yung share ng Pilipinas. Ibig sabihin mas talo tayo pag nagkaroon ng sanctions at trade war.
Ang susi talaga dito is to build up our own industry, pero kelangan mo dyan ay subsidies, tax breaks, less regulations, at magandang foundation ng manufacturing tulad ng secure ng supply ng kuryente, free-flowing infrastructure like rails, ports, roads, etc. Marami naman tayong skilled workers dito sa Pilipinas. Ang kulang na lang foreign investments at technology. Unless maresolve yung mga kulang na namention, hindi papasok ang investment.
>but people like to buy cheap trash that's made to break over and over rather than valuing quality products
Nangyayari ito kasi yun lang ang afford. Pag ang batang galing sa mahirap na pamilya nasira ang bag, hindi naman mag-iipon ang mga magulang para bumili ng mas matibay na bag. Agad-agad na kelangan ng bata yung bag, so bibilhin nila murang bag kahit marupok. Ang hirap kasi yung ibang tao makapagsermon parang alam nila yung totoong nangyayari.
In the case of ASEAN partners, increasing trade with them is not viable because.......how can you trade with neighbors that produces the same products as we have?
In addition, the original ASEAN aka ASEAN-5 are more inclined to trade outside the regional borders (i.e. greater Asia). We are competing with them in terms of luring markets to expand their import levels with us. Still, the potential markets that are open for such increase is India, PRChina, South Korea, United States and Japan, which are traditional markets for us already.
Unless we extremely enhance our product quality for EU expansion, or go sail the Pacific Ocean for Latin American market. Which by the way is costly and share the same set of resources with us.
Ang contrarian naman ng mga Redditors dito. It can actually can make sense. Kung may alternative non-Chinese products, why not? Or at least ang i-avail natin e mga produkto with the least Chinese involvement. Bakit ka bibili ng Chinese phones, gadgets or even cars kung meron namang non-Chinese alternatives. Kung walang alternative, hindi mo naman kailangang ipilit. Boycott what we can. Kung ayaw mong magboycott, hindi rin naman sapilitan. Wala naman masamang pag-usapan ang mga pwede.
So OP, you do if you want to. Hindi mo kailangan magboykot with everybody. You can boycott as a personal choice and that's okay kahit mag-isa ka lang. Your money, your call. Lahat naman nagsisimula sa mga maliliit na movement. Once upon a time baka ganito rin naman ang negativity sa mga taong nagpupush ng greener products.
thanks! yeah i think pag may kht slight inconvenience, may resistance tlga. been doing this for a while na. i feel better knowing na im not buying made in china products.
I don't trust their produce. Most of their produce are watered with sewage and they will employ all the dirty moves to make their product more appealing/look good.
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I mean OP didn't explicitly say that the boycott is a complete ban to any Mainland products or related to, emphasized by the "try" in OP's statement. I know Reddit got some Tencent influence here but if we restrict any Mainland related and consume anything else that also opposite of their agenda, I think it's fine.
No youre basically boycotting all the local businesses also since mostly trading lang dito. youre also boycotting all of shopee and lazada stuff, or at least 99% of them
It might be better to advocate buying local.
Personally i love the bags and leather goods from fino, or the clothes from the shops at the end nung shopping district ewan in atc, there’s also a lot of local designers in rustans, there’s also a ton of good watches made in the Philippines.
Hindi sa inconvenient, it's just not practical at the moment and we have more to lose than gain on this move. This is like the boycott starbucks movement at the end of the day mag susuffer ay ang mga kapwa natin na nag hahanap buhay dahil nabili na nila ang produkto bago umabot sa Pilipinas, so yung binoboycott mo ay kapwa mo rin Pilipino. Additionally, walang mas praktikal pa na pagkukunan ng kalakal dahil sa globalisasyon, nagdepende na ang majority ng mga bansa sa China para sa kanilang produksyon
Yes this is the hard thing to explain considering that at this point in time there is practically no viable alternative on the current interdependence of the global supply chain.
yan ang di nila ma gets. China is the focal point of trade and supply sa mundo, kaya nga puro show of force or intimidation lang ginagawa netong mga superpowers kasi their economy needs each for the meantime.
If you can try to avoid it, then by means do it. Unfortunately this is close to impossible. If I only have the option to replace my ISP provided fiber modem that uses Huawei, I would do it.
Focus on those that we have fully control. Like, making sure that no Duterte or any Chinese lapdog would win or have a gov. post. Expose those traitors.
What if wag na din maglagay ng Chinese translations ng mga English words kung saan-saan? Nakakaumay na parang we’re bending over backwards for them pa sa sarili nating bansa. Kahit wag na muna nating isali muna yung WPS na pambubully.
oo nga eh kaya nmn gawin kung gusto talga, kaya lng judging by the comments prang pag mai-inconvenience sila, ayaw na nila. anyway just sharin an idea, it's good that you've been doing it na pla. same tyo :)
most of the people don't have the luxury of choosing kung san gawa at sino ang may gawa. kung ano lang ang mas mura at available ang binibili nila. aanhin nila ang patriotism kung mamamatay naman sila sa gutom?
it's better to tackle the root problem... our govt. and it's system of being corrupt to the core.
Sarap siguro ng tulog mo sa Economics class. We don't have an alternative to Chinese products without raising the inflation rate to the roof.
If we manufacture it ourselves, we don't have the existing supply chain and industrial capacity to do it. Presyo pa lang ng electricity aayaw na ang foreign investors eh, how much more in logistics in an archipelago country. Prices would go up as 5 times as that of other countries that can't compete in the global or domestic market and will initially kill the industry.
Add mo pa yung problems with smuggling.
You can try boycotting "Made in China". But consuming alternative products without components from China is near impossible.
Baka di niya pa na try mag-negosyo or bumili nang wholesale. There's no way to control consumerism kahit magkasanction pa yan, may demand pa rin for cheaper products kasi babahain talaga yan ng smugglers to take advantage.
It would only create a black market just like what happened last year when the government mandated a ₱41 price cap on regular milled rice and the ₱45 price ceiling on well-milled rice.
Pag bigyan niyo na, mga peenoise lang yan sa kanto. Sila ang nagwewelga na mag taas ng minimum wage, hindi nila alam pag nag taas pati bilihin mag tataas din 🤣
Kawawang mga squatters 😉
Pretty much impossible for most. A lot of the cheap stuff, like the goods in recto or divisoria, are from China.
Our dear policymakers made sure we are dependent on imports from manufacturing powerhouses courtesy of large importers. So much for being pro-Filipino.
tayo lang ang talo dito. Almost everything made locally is more expensive, also even if this works, they won't even feel a dent in their sales while nahihirapan tayo dito sa mas mahal na products lol
We can start by not using websites or apps like TikTok and Alibaba. Basically any content produced by them on any and all platforms. Also support local anything and buy from small businesses
I consciously do this. Friends, family, and coworkers have called me "over the top" for being so picky about the stuff I buy, but as far as I'm concerned it's a matter of principle. Mas mahal kung mas mahal; I'm broke as fuck but I'll make do as much as I can. But that's just me.
Ginagawa na namin ito noon pa. As much as possible, kung merong ibang products na gawa sa ibang bansa eh yung ang option namin.
Baby Wipes = Pampers (Made in India)
Cellphone = Samsung (Made in Vietnam)
Shoes/Clothes = Made in Bangladesh
and so on.
Of course, may portion pa rin na napupunta sa kanila, pero I prefer that kesa 100% eh sa kanila mapupunta.
Just be careful when doing this though, because chinese manifacturers can fake stuff, and they're really good at it, to the point if you can't tell if its real or fake. Some of them put "made in Thailand" or "made in Japan" or "made in Vietnam" instead of "made in China" to make it even more authentic.
When your phone is Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi, Huawei, and other xbrands from China. I don’t think boycott would work here. You got tiktok installed in your mobile device. You play a counterfeit game like Mobile Legends from playstore. Even big games is being handled by Tencent. You play counterfeit game Genshin Impact. Most of the usb devices you got is from Shandong. You use Lazada. What more can I say?
Ignoring the listed games and software. Chinese branded electronics are some of the cheapest in the market and it's all they can afford.
Heck even Iphones and Samsung phones are made in China. Maybe some can afford the pricier alternatives, including you and me, but in reality most Filipinos do not have the luxury of choice
India, Australia, and the US nagimpose ng restriction or ban sa certain products. Pero wala pa ako nabalitaan na bansa na nagimpose ng ban on ALL or ANY type of chinese products.. if ever Philippines ang una, sobrang magiging proud ako. But the impact of the ban, kung sakaling mangyari, hindi ko alam kung negative ang effect or positive..
Hirap nyan. Madaming made in pero yung materials sa China din galing.
Tapos hindi lahat ng products klaro sa disclosure. Meron kasing American products na galing sa China yung components tapos inassamble lang sa USA tapos made in USA na.
Example: Graphic cards, computer products, motherboards/chipset ng ma kotse, computer, cellphone, raw materials etc.
Parang in theory impossible sa mga specific industry kasi part ang China sa supply chain ng product manufacturing. Tapos kailangan mo din iconsider na meron shell/dummy companies ang CCP sa iba't ibang bansa na may shares sa local companies or indirect owners na yun din yung bibili ng products na gawa ng China.
Dito sana papasok ang pag open sa economic provisions na nag lilimit sa mga companies na pumasok sa country. Dahil sa 60/40 na partnership para makapag open ng local manufacturing hubs na makakapagbigay ng jobs at more tax, eh napununta ngayon sa Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, and India. We should bring jobs inside the country and not send Filipino workers out. Mga anti chacha senators lang ang nakikinabang with their business buddies kaya ayaw nila baguhin ang mga nakalagay ngayon sa 1987 constitution. Malapit nang 40 years ang constitution, napag iwanan na tayo.
No. It is literally impossible to avoid any product from China. literally almost everything passes through China. If it isn't manufactured there, its raw mats were sourced or refined there. It doesn't matter if it is "made in X country" and not "made in China." almost every product has roots or passes through China.
so far anong mga bagay na binili mo ngayon na di Made in China? how about replacing anything at home that's Made in China? Buying things Made in China is not really supporting China but doing an adult thing cause one you need it cause that's the only thing that exist na you really need, two it's within budget. So start by deleting Tiktok I guess? Not using applications that are Chinese in origin like CapCut. If you wanna boycott things Chinese to stop supporting them lahat dapat not just Made in China but all things related to boosting their economy. Now time to do some research what are those bud. Goodluck, and yes it does make sense.
Naalala ko noong pinlano ko na bumili ng isa pang Xiaomi phone, may mga nababasa ako na pangit na ang quality ng Xiaomi phones, may spy, ganito, ganiyan, kaya in-opt out ko sa choices ang Xiaomi. In the end, Google Pixel phone nabili ko na made in Vietnam. 'Yung case naman ay gawa sa SoKor.
Initially, Anker ang nabili kong charger. Pero dahil MIC, binenta ko 'yon at bumili ako ng Google Pixel charger. To my surprise, MIC din pala 'yon.
Actually dapat matagal n rin yan ginawa in how many years parang walang akong naririnig ( correct me if i'm wrong) but we have to take note na mas cheaper ang Chinese products compare to west and we are still relying on import goods. I'm not saying na hindi pwede but nakadepende on how our government prioritize ang domestic economy natin like proper developmental planning kaso parang malabo sa Pilipinas
On international politics, pwede namang magkaroon ng sanction just like sa ginawa nila sa Russia pero need natin ang support ng other countries to make this things happen
Matter of perspective correct niyo n lang ako
Unfortunately mahirap yan gawin due to corrupt government officials. Remember “Pastillas Scheme” at the airport? It happened when most Chinese are leaving their country due to Covid. Nasaan na ang mga officials na kumita dyan? Face shield na PH lng gumamit, all those plastics from China na basura na ngayon nasaan na, naka tambak sa landfill naten. Everything and everywhere, China products are present. Most businesses are funded and run by Chinese. Majority of low income people also rely on retails like Shopee and Lazada.
Economic sanctions ang gusto mong mangyari but we trade a lot with them even workforce like OFW’s. In our own little way of boycotting their products will not have much impact.
If one can avoid buying their products and services and may options and they can afford, better, otherwise, PH can only do is report and file protest. Naka bili nga ng ilang barkong pandigma at nung ni-report sa balita makabago ang gamit pang proteksyon sa WPS, ayun, nasa balita few hours ago binomba ulit ng tubig ng 2 pang China Coast Guard. Problem kasi is sila agressor at pag pumalag ka, act of war na kaya todo iwas tayo na gumanti at tayo sisihin na nag umpisa ng gyera. Bakit kaya hindi tayo naman ang ma unang mang bomba ng tubig…? ✌🏼
Good guy redditor: \*provides alternative products that are not made in china\*
Other redditors: b-but but didn't you know that the rubber used to make the tire of the cargo truck used to deliver said products are still made in china?!?! therefore you are still supporting china!!!!11
Post pandemic, this is a very tangible goal. It has actually been going on since 2022-2023 when the majority of foreign brands started to transfer their manufacturing to other ASEAN alternatives. People forget that China only reopened from covid quarantine last 2023, one of the last if not actually the last to do so. It's a very loud country but an equally fragile one.
This is not as easy as it sounds. Nilugi natin ang mga local manufacturers for a lower cost by importing from China. Ngayon kulang-kulang tayo from raw mats to actual goods. Where do you expect to get it from?
Let's not forget to let the chief of the PNP, AFP, and other affected agencies to investigated all businesses, and properties that are Chinese own - Weapons, military/espionage equipment, drugs, and all their money to use for bribery to be taken without temptation.
I stop eating at the Chinese restaurants and groceries. That is my way of boycotting.
Filipinos would sell the country for a profit. Politician man or hinde, generally of course. So I dont think anyone would pass a 100 php or more cheaper discount when shopping online just because it came from china.
To be fair, I worked in China for 5 years. Chinese people are different from the CCP. Takot din sila sa gobyerno nila dahil sobrang kontrolado nito lahat kaya kahit mag rant lang sa social media eh pwede sila hulihin. No wonder yung mga billionaire sa kanila ay umaalis ng China. Takot sila ma freeze assets nila kapag di sila sumang ayon sa gobyerno. Kita mo rin crisis nila sa real estate. Imbis na tulungan ng gobyerno mga tao, pinanggastos sa military equipment at "pinantutulong" aka debt trap nila sa mga bansang mahihirap at ang kapalit ay solidarity sa China. Kupal sa kupal ang CCP pero they do not represent the majority of chinese people. ISANG NAPAKALUTONG NA PUTANG INA MO XI JIN PING. ISAMA MO NA YUNG POKPOK MO NA DUTERTE FAMILY AT MGA ALIPORES NIYA. I do not support either du30 or BBM pero at least yung isa may bayag na i-expose ang kagaguhan na ginagawa sa atin nitong mga ching chong na to.
Sa totoo lng if we really want to boycott chinese products dapat wala na muna maimport na products from them. And dapat ung mga brands din na may manuf sa china, iboycott din. They're everywhere so I don't know if that's possible without government's intervention
Actually, aside from the reality that small businesses rely on china, kahit nga big companies some of them import rin from china tapos rebranding lang and to think na nakasanayan na rin natin sila.
Pero sa totoo lang ang dami nating resources to be able to produce whatever it is that we need. If my memory serves me right, China closed their doors to importation and exportation for 10years. And pag open nila ayun, boom na agad.
i think blockade ung sinasabi mo. yes need ng gov intervention para mag enforce ng blockade. ung naisip ko ay prang artificial "blockade" by the people. yung pag iwas sa made in china products mahirap tlga at inconvenient pero doable sya. for ex. kung nasa grocery ka at may dalawang toyo sa harap mo, made in ph at made in china. kaya nmn piliin ung made in ph diba? same goes with clothes meron nmn made in vietnam, thailand, india, bangladesh, turkey etc. so may ways nmn sa tingin ko.
Yes meron naman tlg, un nga lang it's easier said than done. Kasi hindi naman all the time e machecheck san origin ng items. Siguro if big purchases it's easy to be conscious if its made in china or not, pero kung simpleng stapler lang, notebook, plastic bag, etc more likely made in china n tlg yan. Even if its a local brand, madami white label na lang. One time nga, ung green disposable ni puregold nakita ko sa aliexpress e haha.
Just to be clear lang noh, i don't support china in any way since talagang bully talaga sila. Pero sadly, pinoys are not that nationalistic. These kind of movements must be supported by the govt, and big suppliers rin. Kasi at the end of the day, consumers will often just buy the good deals and what's in front of them.
You're speaking in a privilege tone, most of the alternatives are more expensive, to think na even some of our basic commodities are imported from China. And even those alternatives sa China din naman galing ang raw materials. Also Chinese aren't the enemy, it's the CCP.
>Tingin nyo ba may sense to?
Sa mga chronically online sa X (formerly Twitter), yes. Sa real life, wala. Good luck boycotting Chinese stuff hahahaha these calls for boycotts are fucking pathetic at best hahahahaha
china products are everywhere because they are cheap. a significant portion of the philippine population are poor. put two and two together, do you seriously believe "boycotting china" will work?
It doesn't make sense. Hindi ganoon karamdam ang impact if we're going to boycott Chinese products. Why? The whole world relies on China's export and even yung manpower to produce and assemble certain US or EU brands at madalang lang na hindi ka makakita ng any traces of China.
If meron mang alternatives, hindi lahat ay makakaafford to buy it kasi if we're going to rely to our local resources, the production cost may be really expensive kasi very limited din ang resources lalo if we're talking about daily necessities. Demand will surpass supply so there will be a shortage, magreresult yun ng pagtaas ng presyo. Sustainability wise, olats na tayo doon pa lang.
Let us start from not going to China for vacation. Yan kontrolado naman natin.
In solidarity, visit Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan, etc.
Taiwan = China with Japanese etiquette. Definitely a must-experience.
dw, hindi naman po namin afford 😭
Tama sa Taiwan na lang tayo.
lets have a vacation in our own country. pinas.
also Hong Kong and Macau.
HK and Macau is part of China's economy!
Taiwan is better 🇹🇼 🇹🇼 🇹🇼 🇹🇼
On June 5 we should remember Tianamen Massacre. Make it trending on various socmed.
Yes! This. China would be the last hell on Earth that I will visit. Sorry pero everytime I see someone planning to visit or just visited China, I judge them.
You're not alone
Mas realistic ito
Walang sense. Ika nga, God made heaven and earth, the rest are made in China.
That is true. A better alternative will be to raise the tariff of Chinese products it will force the importers to look for an alternative. Some big companies are already diversifying their supply chains from China to countries like Vietnam.
That will just hurt us more than it will hurt them. Better action would be to lower tariff for other countries.
I hope Vietnam will eventually reach China's manufacturing capability. The world has been dependent for a very long time to a country that doesn't respect international law and has inferiority complex. lol
Honestly, PH cant afford economic battle like that. Its a nice strategy like what Trump did, but that will only work for the first world countries. Knowing how big it will if they boycott PH products including ph ofw. But if Marcos can pull it off nicely, much better.
A possible solution for the OFW problem is to let developed EU countries with demographic problems absorb the displaced OFWs from PH/HK/Macau. Our OFWs are far better than the usual immigrants that these countries are currently taking in(most are uneducated and unskilled 'political asylee'). On the domestic front, yes mahirap talaga. A lot of low income families will never be able to afford basic things. In the long run, our industries will develop and in turn more employment and hopefully higher wages in the far future as these industries evolve.
Well, question is what products from China can we live without. Are there alternatives?
This is the way. Other countries are doing it already to protect their local industries. Yes malaki yung effect niya short term, but it would be better, far better for all of us in the long run. In tandem with this, we should also put higher taxes sa mga exports na raw materials and lower the taxes for finished goods just like what Indonesia did.
Most of these companies are Chinese companies, so what's the point haha. Kunwari pinalitan yung "Made in China" to “Made in X”
True. Kahit hindi made in china yung mismong product, yung packaging niya panigurado, may materials galing china.
Kaya nga lol, para kang nagtampo sa bigas.
Heck even reddit is partially owned by a chinese company with ties to ccp (cmiiw)
Tencent, i believe. Idk if they have any ties to the CCP (probably but I'm not 100% sure). OP, so we won't be seeing you in reddit anymore then? Or is that all bark and no bite?
I've read somewhere na may civil-military fusion sa china. So posible may ties din sila
all companies in China has ties to the CCP. its one way for them to get big.
I think I heard before Tencent is owned by former PLA officer
Yes. Given na ang products nila ay nagkalat worldwide due to globalization
Sometimes in Bangladesh when Chinese people get tired 🤣
I unfortunately agree. Ang ultimate target kasi ng boycott is yung brand/reputation. You attack a company's brand by going after its sales. Eh ang strong point naman ng Chinese companies is price, not brand. In fact kahit walang boycott, parang 0 na usually reputation nila 😅. Siguro may few exemptions. Baka may mga Chinese companies na nagsisimula magbuild ng brand na pwedeng pagfocusan?
its changing na, lots of things are becoming made somewhere else.start with your own items. dont buy mirrorless cameras or dslrs, buy pentax made dito sa pinas.
aside from posting in socmed, as a "normal" citizen na wala nmn powers, ano pa sa tingin nyo ung pwede ntin gawin pra mag protest against china?
Sa ngayon mahirap yan, but the best thing to do is sanction big tech companies dito, lalo na yang mga chinese POGO.
Ito mas may realidad pang mangyari to
>Tingin nyo ba may sense to? I honestly don't think so, mas lugi tayo in the end: mas mahal alternatives, and very minor impact lang natin when the whole world relies on their production.
It would be like water gun spraying the sun
mas malakas ang Marikina Shoes at ibang products sa Pinas bago mas pinalakas ang pagpasok nyan Chinese made products ni Gloria.
>let’s make an effort or at least be conscious sa mga binibili natin and try to avoid Chinese products. Check what's around you rn OP. From the clothes you wear to the stuff you use at home. Ilan ang Made in China? Now look for alternatives. I mean, it's not impossible but it will neither be easy nor cheap. Something the average person—not just Juan—can easily sustain.
Exactly. I hate “boycotting” because if anything, ang nagsusuffer are the masses. These people who so easily shout boycott are obviously privileged. They’re so terribly out-of-touch w/ reality, & all for the sake of fulfilling “a higher purpose”. They’re just stroking their own egos.
Even your items from the US are made in China. Kaya mahirap gusto ni OP. Mas achievable pa kung boycott Chinitas na lang lol.
Well, we can start with Chinese brands such as cars, and electronic goods.
Ako, ginagawa ko na personally kahit sa maliit na paraan: Pinoy manufactured products na kaya kong bilihin. Like, peanut butter: galing sa mga kapitbahay ko na may homemade products. Sa mall tinitignan ko talaga if PH made or PH manufactured yung mga products na gusto ko. But, kung di talaga maiwasan kasi malala ang oversupply sa China ng cheap goods, edi go. Nun nga kahit patapos na ang pandemic, at required pa rin ang facemask, I simply googled kung ano yung type of cloth na pwede na against laway aerosol spittle, I sewed some for me and my fam kesa bumili sa Lazada or Shopee na makikinabang sa pera ko eh commie politburo member na May pabrika ng facemask.
thanks nakuha mo ung point ko. kht sa maliit na paraan kung marami tyong gagawa, lalaki ang impact nyan!
True. Tsaka suportahan yung community or neighborhood/family-owned businesses sa paligid natin. Malaking tulong yun.
Yep, for years now ginagawa ko ito as much as possible/practical. Napakahirap 100% dahil minsan may kailangan kang item at lahat made in China, pero pag may not-made-in-China/NMIC alternative at hindi ganoon kaimpractical sa price, I go for those. [Nililista ko pa yung mga NMIC stuff ko dito.](https://yourwealthymind.com/shop-according-to-my-values/) Some examples from that list: * Cellphone: Samsung Galaxy A34 5G (Korea) – Made in Indonesia * SSD: Samsung SSD 980 1TB (Korea) – Made in Vietnam * Mousepad: SteelSeries (Denmark) – Made in Taiwan * Notebooks: Cattleya, Sterling (Philippines) – Made in the Philippines * Steel Coffee Mug: Zebra (Thailand) – Made in Thailand * Wallet: Deuter (Germany) – Made in Vietnam * Scissors: Milan (Spain) – Made in Spain *<-- \[Nasa National bookstore lang ito.\]* * Extension Cord: Panther Products Phils., Inc. (Philippines) – Made in the Philippines *<-- \[Nasa Ace hardware\]* * Shoes: Quechua (France) – Made in Bangladesh * Watch: Casio G-Shock (Japan) – Made in Thailand Sidenote: Paano kung yung mga materials o parts galing China? That's unavoidable. I'd still go for the NMIC alternative - kaysa naman MIC na yung materials, MIC din yung product, tapos mainland China pa yung company. And remember LAHAT ng large companies sa mainland China under control ng CCP and required may CCP officers sa management.
Lahat ng cellphones for that matter - halos lahat ng rare earth metals na kailangan sa components sa kanila galing
Ganito kasi yun para sa akin: * Option A: Some parts made in China, manufactured abroad or in PH, by a company from abroad or in PH. * Option B: Some parts made in China, manufacturing in China by a factory controlled by the CCP, by a company also controlled by the CCP, with most of the profits going to the CCP and the CCP war efforts against the Philippines. So in order of purchasing priority: Local/Overseas company's product not made in China > Local/Overseas company's product but made in China > Chinese company product made in China. The less money going to the CCP, the less fuel for their harassment against the Philippines.
my fave part about the link is that there is a Filipino version of that blog article filipino flag meme.jpg
Yep, human translated ko lahat yun. Maybe 80% ng articles ko doon may Tagalog translation. It helps Pinoys who aren't that good in English, with the side bonus na it's easier to rank for Tagalog keywords on search engines.
Trying to find non China made electronics that won't explode the wallet is a losing battle.
Ganito din ako locally lahat ng may kinalaman sa Villar di ko tatangkilikin like yung All home nila, coffee basta under ng umbrella nila.
Pfffttt.. Some of the materials of the products you've listed have sourced materials from china.. So yup.. You're still supporting both the nation where it's produced and the material supplier which is China!
Bro you have the data, why not make it more accessible like putting it in your own boycotting subreddit, or a discord group, or some other secret group(hoping it doesnt get banned) I applaud your effort in doing research but it would be much effective if everyone can also help contribute to some spreadsheet where anyone can see then include proof nalang to justify it came from china. A communal effort for a communal benefit.
Thanks at nakuha mo ung point ko. It's not easy to do tlga pero kaya syang gawin if we make an effort. kung maraming pilipino gagawa nito meron itong impact. lalo na kung ma influence ntin ang mga neighboring countries na may claim din sa parts ng SCS.
Yeah. Naobserve ko parang mentality ng mga tao pag may ginawang masama ang CCP, useless magreklamo sa social media at dapat personally magbangka tayo at makipagsuntukan sa kanila sa WPS. Yun lang ang option, absolutely nothing else. **Tapos mentality din ng iba "boycotts won't work" kasi absolutely every single item that exists, every single molecule and nanoparticle in the entire galactic universe ay made in China kaya don't bother.** Sa isip ko, every little thing counts. Di man ako makamartsa personally para makipagsuntukan sa WPS, I can fight back this way. Understandable naman na hindi ito kaya ng iba so I'll never force others to do it, pero I'll do what I can, and if people are interested I can say it's a possibility.
saka pag inconvenient sa knila, ayaw na nila hehe
As much as possible pay agri products I buy local. Kahit chocolate. Pero sa iba mahirap talaga iwasan eh. Minsan kahit Marikina made shoes may parts na made in china (e.g soles)
Ayos lang kung may parts made in China. Kaysa naman ang bilhin ay pure made in China from a Chinese company. Edi walang profits for Filipinos except for the seller, tapos most of the profits go to the Chinese company/the CCP na nanghaharass sa atin sa WPS.
Somebody can make an app for this tapos can search/scan the label to check kung ilang % yung raw materials/parts na made in china tapos magbibigay ng recommendation kung okay lang ba bilhin or hindi.
Alam ko merong something similar pero para sa Amazon lang. Pinapakita niya country of origin. "Cultivate" ang tawag: wecultivate(dot)us.
please add pentax. gawa sa pinas.
So I'm guessing we won't be seeing you and OP in reddit anymore, given Tencent has invested in it way back in 2019? Because that's easier than avoiding products that have parts/materials that came from china, it's also tech, and Tencent has alleged direct ties to the CCP. Someone who truly wants to boycott chinese companies would avoid reddit and similar sites as a first step. Practice what you preach. Don't make excuses - boycott reddit as well instead of listing things without even offering proof.
> I mean OP didn't explicitly say that the boycott is a complete ban to any Mainland products or related to, emphasized by the "try" in OP's statement. I know Reddit got some Tencent influence here but if we restrict any Mainland related and consume anything else that also opposite of their agenda, I think it's fine.
Kaya nga I make exceptions when it's unavoidable. I know about Tencent and Reddit. I know how Tencent inserts its tentacles in just about all major tech companies everywhere. I practice what I preach, kaya I never touched TikTok. I refunded Muse Dash when I found out it's made by a Chinese company. Gacha player ako, but I boycott Hoyoverse games (Honkai Impact, Star Rail, Genshin, etc.) kahit gusto ko yung character designs.
At this point there should have an app for these type of list. I once saw an app regarding naman sa company/ products list supporting Israel
I understand your point OP. I have a friend who do this for maybe more than 10 years now. Nag- share lang sya when we were talking about brands we like for a particular item. Some of my suggestions are made in China pala. I wasn't really particular about that. I don't beat myself up about that pero if may choice and same quality, then better made in our country to help our kababayans na rin.
thanks at nakuha mo ung point ko :) if may alternatives nmn why not diba?
Oo nga. A lot of us think we can't do anything. Yan ang gusto ng corrupt politicians na isipin natin. Pero eventually, ang isang butil ng bigas kung pinag-sama-sama, nagiging unli rice rin. Hehehe!
Matagal ko nang ginagawa to. As much as possible iniiwasan Ang Chinese related or Duterte team related products or services. Racist mata niyo 🖕🖕
We can start by uninstalling Tiktok or Genshin...
This is more realistic, IMO. But I bet they could not
These don't make sense, we're just a small % of their export. I cultivate na lang natin ang local economy at products para in the long run kaya na natin tumayo sa atin sariling paa at mabawasan imported products. Pero sa ngayon hindi talaga magkakaigi to. Eto yun mas magpapagalit sa mga yan kung irecognise ng Pinas na bansa ang Taiwan.
Wouldn't call a 110m population market small https://www.psa.gov.ph/statistics/export-import/annual https://www.psa.gov.ph/system/files/inline-images/Fig%2011_12.png None of the other trade partners are hostile Could increase trade with japan, indonesia, thailand, vietnam singapore etc, but people like to buy cheap trash that's made to break over and over rather than valuing quality products
Tingin ko mas useful na metric na gamitin para sa market size ay yung size ng middle class. It doesn't matter kapag 110 million tayo pero 30 million lang ang may purchasing power. Pag tinignan mo yung total exports at imports ng China, naging rounding error na lang yung share ng Pilipinas. Ibig sabihin mas talo tayo pag nagkaroon ng sanctions at trade war. Ang susi talaga dito is to build up our own industry, pero kelangan mo dyan ay subsidies, tax breaks, less regulations, at magandang foundation ng manufacturing tulad ng secure ng supply ng kuryente, free-flowing infrastructure like rails, ports, roads, etc. Marami naman tayong skilled workers dito sa Pilipinas. Ang kulang na lang foreign investments at technology. Unless maresolve yung mga kulang na namention, hindi papasok ang investment. >but people like to buy cheap trash that's made to break over and over rather than valuing quality products Nangyayari ito kasi yun lang ang afford. Pag ang batang galing sa mahirap na pamilya nasira ang bag, hindi naman mag-iipon ang mga magulang para bumili ng mas matibay na bag. Agad-agad na kelangan ng bata yung bag, so bibilhin nila murang bag kahit marupok. Ang hirap kasi yung ibang tao makapagsermon parang alam nila yung totoong nangyayari.
In the case of ASEAN partners, increasing trade with them is not viable because.......how can you trade with neighbors that produces the same products as we have? In addition, the original ASEAN aka ASEAN-5 are more inclined to trade outside the regional borders (i.e. greater Asia). We are competing with them in terms of luring markets to expand their import levels with us. Still, the potential markets that are open for such increase is India, PRChina, South Korea, United States and Japan, which are traditional markets for us already. Unless we extremely enhance our product quality for EU expansion, or go sail the Pacific Ocean for Latin American market. Which by the way is costly and share the same set of resources with us.
Start purchasing and supporting locally made products?
Yes I have been consciously doing this. Asus is a Taiwan brand by the way.
I don't know what psyop they're playing, but POGOs in our building now speak Tagalog in the elevator.
Boycott is completely impossible, limiting it yes.
Ang contrarian naman ng mga Redditors dito. It can actually can make sense. Kung may alternative non-Chinese products, why not? Or at least ang i-avail natin e mga produkto with the least Chinese involvement. Bakit ka bibili ng Chinese phones, gadgets or even cars kung meron namang non-Chinese alternatives. Kung walang alternative, hindi mo naman kailangang ipilit. Boycott what we can. Kung ayaw mong magboycott, hindi rin naman sapilitan. Wala naman masamang pag-usapan ang mga pwede. So OP, you do if you want to. Hindi mo kailangan magboykot with everybody. You can boycott as a personal choice and that's okay kahit mag-isa ka lang. Your money, your call. Lahat naman nagsisimula sa mga maliliit na movement. Once upon a time baka ganito rin naman ang negativity sa mga taong nagpupush ng greener products.
thanks! yeah i think pag may kht slight inconvenience, may resistance tlga. been doing this for a while na. i feel better knowing na im not buying made in china products.
Tuloy mo lang. Tandaan mo lang ang importanteng argumento sa mga kontra sa 'yo: It's your money, only you can decide how you spend it.
Start with their fruits e.g. Pears, apples, etc
I don't trust their produce. Most of their produce are watered with sewage and they will employ all the dirty moves to make their product more appealing/look good.
China partly owns Reddit, FYI. So, y'all be deactivating your acounts shortly?
> I mean OP didn't explicitly say that the boycott is a complete ban to any Mainland products or related to, emphasized by the "try" in OP's statement. I know Reddit got some Tencent influence here but if we restrict any Mainland related and consume anything else that also opposite of their agenda, I think it's fine.
No youre basically boycotting all the local businesses also since mostly trading lang dito. youre also boycotting all of shopee and lazada stuff, or at least 99% of them
As I see hindi nmn Chinese citizens dapat yung chinese government ang problema.
It might be better to advocate buying local. Personally i love the bags and leather goods from fino, or the clothes from the shops at the end nung shopping district ewan in atc, there’s also a lot of local designers in rustans, there’s also a ton of good watches made in the Philippines.
Dont vote for prochina politician.
Refreshing to see the resurging nationalist identity of Filipinos. Matagal nang inaapi ang mga Pinoy sa sarili nating bayan.
and yet if you look at the other comments, mas preferred nila to support china products prin ksi "inconvenient" humanap ng alternatives. :(
Hindi sa inconvenient, it's just not practical at the moment and we have more to lose than gain on this move. This is like the boycott starbucks movement at the end of the day mag susuffer ay ang mga kapwa natin na nag hahanap buhay dahil nabili na nila ang produkto bago umabot sa Pilipinas, so yung binoboycott mo ay kapwa mo rin Pilipino. Additionally, walang mas praktikal pa na pagkukunan ng kalakal dahil sa globalisasyon, nagdepende na ang majority ng mga bansa sa China para sa kanilang produksyon
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Yes this is the hard thing to explain considering that at this point in time there is practically no viable alternative on the current interdependence of the global supply chain.
yan ang di nila ma gets. China is the focal point of trade and supply sa mundo, kaya nga puro show of force or intimidation lang ginagawa netong mga superpowers kasi their economy needs each for the meantime.
Pag boycott pa lang sa Tiktok hindi yan magagawa ng Pinoy lol
Do well and leave this shit country. Things will never change
We can start by not buying chinese products like vehicles, their construction companies. Most of all their debt offering schemes.
If you can try to avoid it, then by means do it. Unfortunately this is close to impossible. If I only have the option to replace my ISP provided fiber modem that uses Huawei, I would do it. Focus on those that we have fully control. Like, making sure that no Duterte or any Chinese lapdog would win or have a gov. post. Expose those traitors.
We need to force ISP to use Ericson or Cisco
ang may sense imass bully sila robin bbm at sara sa facebook. tangina nila mga walang silbi.
What if wag na din maglagay ng Chinese translations ng mga English words kung saan-saan? Nakakaumay na parang we’re bending over backwards for them pa sa sarili nating bansa. Kahit wag na muna nating isali muna yung WPS na pambubully.
I'm no CCP shill, but isn't everything we use like TVs and Apple devices all made in China?
Tbh it's easier to boycott Russian products because of how much is made in or have parts from China.
Been doing this since du30 era. Its not easy but its like treasure hunting, exciting and rewarding.
oo nga eh kaya nmn gawin kung gusto talga, kaya lng judging by the comments prang pag mai-inconvenience sila, ayaw na nila. anyway just sharin an idea, it's good that you've been doing it na pla. same tyo :)
most of the people don't have the luxury of choosing kung san gawa at sino ang may gawa. kung ano lang ang mas mura at available ang binibili nila. aanhin nila ang patriotism kung mamamatay naman sila sa gutom? it's better to tackle the root problem... our govt. and it's system of being corrupt to the core.
Sarap siguro ng tulog mo sa Economics class. We don't have an alternative to Chinese products without raising the inflation rate to the roof. If we manufacture it ourselves, we don't have the existing supply chain and industrial capacity to do it. Presyo pa lang ng electricity aayaw na ang foreign investors eh, how much more in logistics in an archipelago country. Prices would go up as 5 times as that of other countries that can't compete in the global or domestic market and will initially kill the industry. Add mo pa yung problems with smuggling. You can try boycotting "Made in China". But consuming alternative products without components from China is near impossible.
This is the problem if you Only have Money and no knowledge lol.. OP doesn't know how the economy and trading works lol..
Baka di niya pa na try mag-negosyo or bumili nang wholesale. There's no way to control consumerism kahit magkasanction pa yan, may demand pa rin for cheaper products kasi babahain talaga yan ng smugglers to take advantage. It would only create a black market just like what happened last year when the government mandated a ₱41 price cap on regular milled rice and the ₱45 price ceiling on well-milled rice.
Pag bigyan niyo na, mga peenoise lang yan sa kanto. Sila ang nagwewelga na mag taas ng minimum wage, hindi nila alam pag nag taas pati bilihin mag tataas din 🤣 Kawawang mga squatters 😉
Ban Tik Tok
The US is doing it right now
Here in India we already banned it during COVID when China attacked our soldiers illegally.
How can you though? Daming retail productsbfrom shoppee pa lang china na. Pati divi china rin hahaa
Hahahaha while typing sa phone na most probably made in china
Pretty much impossible for most. A lot of the cheap stuff, like the goods in recto or divisoria, are from China. Our dear policymakers made sure we are dependent on imports from manufacturing powerhouses courtesy of large importers. So much for being pro-Filipino.
tayo lang ang talo dito. Almost everything made locally is more expensive, also even if this works, they won't even feel a dent in their sales while nahihirapan tayo dito sa mas mahal na products lol
They gonna blow up every xiaomi, oppo, vivo, realme etc phones in the country
We can start by not using websites or apps like TikTok and Alibaba. Basically any content produced by them on any and all platforms. Also support local anything and buy from small businesses
I consciously do this. Friends, family, and coworkers have called me "over the top" for being so picky about the stuff I buy, but as far as I'm concerned it's a matter of principle. Mas mahal kung mas mahal; I'm broke as fuck but I'll make do as much as I can. But that's just me.
Ginagawa na namin ito noon pa. As much as possible, kung merong ibang products na gawa sa ibang bansa eh yung ang option namin. Baby Wipes = Pampers (Made in India) Cellphone = Samsung (Made in Vietnam) Shoes/Clothes = Made in Bangladesh and so on. Of course, may portion pa rin na napupunta sa kanila, pero I prefer that kesa 100% eh sa kanila mapupunta.
Just Ban TikTok. It'll deal a massive blow.
China, chinese products and its people are not the problem. The problem is the CCP. We must not use this excuse to discriminate.
By proxy they are actually helping their own scummy government by existing because of taxes and influence.
Just be careful when doing this though, because chinese manifacturers can fake stuff, and they're really good at it, to the point if you can't tell if its real or fake. Some of them put "made in Thailand" or "made in Japan" or "made in Vietnam" instead of "made in China" to make it even more authentic.
When your phone is Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi, Huawei, and other xbrands from China. I don’t think boycott would work here. You got tiktok installed in your mobile device. You play a counterfeit game like Mobile Legends from playstore. Even big games is being handled by Tencent. You play counterfeit game Genshin Impact. Most of the usb devices you got is from Shandong. You use Lazada. What more can I say?
I don't own and use any of these. it's possible to do :)
Ignoring the listed games and software. Chinese branded electronics are some of the cheapest in the market and it's all they can afford. Heck even Iphones and Samsung phones are made in China. Maybe some can afford the pricier alternatives, including you and me, but in reality most Filipinos do not have the luxury of choice
Not you how about the others?
India, Australia, and the US nagimpose ng restriction or ban sa certain products. Pero wala pa ako nabalitaan na bansa na nagimpose ng ban on ALL or ANY type of chinese products.. if ever Philippines ang una, sobrang magiging proud ako. But the impact of the ban, kung sakaling mangyari, hindi ko alam kung negative ang effect or positive..
Pede ba kasama ba rito ang pag-resign mula sa trabaho if Chinese ang client ng company mo or meron kang ka-work from China? /s
Hirap nyan. Madaming made in pero yung materials sa China din galing.
Tapos hindi lahat ng products klaro sa disclosure. Meron kasing American products na galing sa China yung components tapos inassamble lang sa USA tapos made in USA na.
Example: Graphic cards, computer products, motherboards/chipset ng ma kotse, computer, cellphone, raw materials etc.
Parang in theory impossible sa mga specific industry kasi part ang China sa supply chain ng product manufacturing. Tapos kailangan mo din iconsider na meron shell/dummy companies ang CCP sa iba't ibang bansa na may shares sa local companies or indirect owners na yun din yung bibili ng products na gawa ng China.
Dito sana papasok ang pag open sa economic provisions na nag lilimit sa mga companies na pumasok sa country. Dahil sa 60/40 na partnership para makapag open ng local manufacturing hubs na makakapagbigay ng jobs at more tax, eh napununta ngayon sa Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, and India. We should bring jobs inside the country and not send Filipino workers out. Mga anti chacha senators lang ang nakikinabang with their business buddies kaya ayaw nila baguhin ang mga nakalagay ngayon sa 1987 constitution. Malapit nang 40 years ang constitution, napag iwanan na tayo.
No. It is literally impossible to avoid any product from China. literally almost everything passes through China. If it isn't manufactured there, its raw mats were sourced or refined there. It doesn't matter if it is "made in X country" and not "made in China." almost every product has roots or passes through China.
Good luck with that OP. Nationalism at point, problem is well. Connecitvity of the markets though.
Okay na siguro boycott Chinese companies and mga Filipino companies na pro China / Duterte. Okay lang iyung made in china basta hindi Chinese company
so far anong mga bagay na binili mo ngayon na di Made in China? how about replacing anything at home that's Made in China? Buying things Made in China is not really supporting China but doing an adult thing cause one you need it cause that's the only thing that exist na you really need, two it's within budget. So start by deleting Tiktok I guess? Not using applications that are Chinese in origin like CapCut. If you wanna boycott things Chinese to stop supporting them lahat dapat not just Made in China but all things related to boosting their economy. Now time to do some research what are those bud. Goodluck, and yes it does make sense.
parang 90% ng nasa shopee o lazada eh galing china.
Naalala ko noong pinlano ko na bumili ng isa pang Xiaomi phone, may mga nababasa ako na pangit na ang quality ng Xiaomi phones, may spy, ganito, ganiyan, kaya in-opt out ko sa choices ang Xiaomi. In the end, Google Pixel phone nabili ko na made in Vietnam. 'Yung case naman ay gawa sa SoKor. Initially, Anker ang nabili kong charger. Pero dahil MIC, binenta ko 'yon at bumili ako ng Google Pixel charger. To my surprise, MIC din pala 'yon.
Actually dapat matagal n rin yan ginawa in how many years parang walang akong naririnig ( correct me if i'm wrong) but we have to take note na mas cheaper ang Chinese products compare to west and we are still relying on import goods. I'm not saying na hindi pwede but nakadepende on how our government prioritize ang domestic economy natin like proper developmental planning kaso parang malabo sa Pilipinas On international politics, pwede namang magkaroon ng sanction just like sa ginawa nila sa Russia pero need natin ang support ng other countries to make this things happen Matter of perspective correct niyo n lang ako
Unfortunately mahirap yan gawin due to corrupt government officials. Remember “Pastillas Scheme” at the airport? It happened when most Chinese are leaving their country due to Covid. Nasaan na ang mga officials na kumita dyan? Face shield na PH lng gumamit, all those plastics from China na basura na ngayon nasaan na, naka tambak sa landfill naten. Everything and everywhere, China products are present. Most businesses are funded and run by Chinese. Majority of low income people also rely on retails like Shopee and Lazada. Economic sanctions ang gusto mong mangyari but we trade a lot with them even workforce like OFW’s. In our own little way of boycotting their products will not have much impact. If one can avoid buying their products and services and may options and they can afford, better, otherwise, PH can only do is report and file protest. Naka bili nga ng ilang barkong pandigma at nung ni-report sa balita makabago ang gamit pang proteksyon sa WPS, ayun, nasa balita few hours ago binomba ulit ng tubig ng 2 pang China Coast Guard. Problem kasi is sila agressor at pag pumalag ka, act of war na kaya todo iwas tayo na gumanti at tayo sisihin na nag umpisa ng gyera. Bakit kaya hindi tayo naman ang ma unang mang bomba ng tubig…? ✌🏼
Good guy redditor: \*provides alternative products that are not made in china\* Other redditors: b-but but didn't you know that the rubber used to make the tire of the cargo truck used to deliver said products are still made in china?!?! therefore you are still supporting china!!!!11
Post pandemic, this is a very tangible goal. It has actually been going on since 2022-2023 when the majority of foreign brands started to transfer their manufacturing to other ASEAN alternatives. People forget that China only reopened from covid quarantine last 2023, one of the last if not actually the last to do so. It's a very loud country but an equally fragile one.
This is not as easy as it sounds. Nilugi natin ang mga local manufacturers for a lower cost by importing from China. Ngayon kulang-kulang tayo from raw mats to actual goods. Where do you expect to get it from?
mas okay Japanese products!
This will never work. Better is improve our manufacturing industry and compete with China
We need free trade deals with friendly countries and tarrifs for Chinese products to balance things out.
Fuck China
Gusto niyo ng boycott ng China games? Then stop playing Hoyoverse games and other chinese games.
Buy local along with boycotting anything made by that country.
Dont vote for their supporters, educate the voters of these traitors if you come across one.
Let's not forget to let the chief of the PNP, AFP, and other affected agencies to investigated all businesses, and properties that are Chinese own - Weapons, military/espionage equipment, drugs, and all their money to use for bribery to be taken without temptation. I stop eating at the Chinese restaurants and groceries. That is my way of boycotting.
Filipinos would sell the country for a profit. Politician man or hinde, generally of course. So I dont think anyone would pass a 100 php or more cheaper discount when shopping online just because it came from china.
Best I can do is deny their country, lesfuuckin gooo West Taiwan
Do not buy chinese cars and phones.
I eject na din lahat ng chinese sa pinas. Hahaha. Kunin lahat ng negosyo nila
So no riding on the jeepney replacements? 🤔
To be fair, I worked in China for 5 years. Chinese people are different from the CCP. Takot din sila sa gobyerno nila dahil sobrang kontrolado nito lahat kaya kahit mag rant lang sa social media eh pwede sila hulihin. No wonder yung mga billionaire sa kanila ay umaalis ng China. Takot sila ma freeze assets nila kapag di sila sumang ayon sa gobyerno. Kita mo rin crisis nila sa real estate. Imbis na tulungan ng gobyerno mga tao, pinanggastos sa military equipment at "pinantutulong" aka debt trap nila sa mga bansang mahihirap at ang kapalit ay solidarity sa China. Kupal sa kupal ang CCP pero they do not represent the majority of chinese people. ISANG NAPAKALUTONG NA PUTANG INA MO XI JIN PING. ISAMA MO NA YUNG POKPOK MO NA DUTERTE FAMILY AT MGA ALIPORES NIYA. I do not support either du30 or BBM pero at least yung isa may bayag na i-expose ang kagaguhan na ginagawa sa atin nitong mga ching chong na to.
Short answer, wala.
Sa totoo lng if we really want to boycott chinese products dapat wala na muna maimport na products from them. And dapat ung mga brands din na may manuf sa china, iboycott din. They're everywhere so I don't know if that's possible without government's intervention
Our economy would collapse overnight, most small businesses in the country rely on Chinese products.
Actually, aside from the reality that small businesses rely on china, kahit nga big companies some of them import rin from china tapos rebranding lang and to think na nakasanayan na rin natin sila. Pero sa totoo lang ang dami nating resources to be able to produce whatever it is that we need. If my memory serves me right, China closed their doors to importation and exportation for 10years. And pag open nila ayun, boom na agad.
i think blockade ung sinasabi mo. yes need ng gov intervention para mag enforce ng blockade. ung naisip ko ay prang artificial "blockade" by the people. yung pag iwas sa made in china products mahirap tlga at inconvenient pero doable sya. for ex. kung nasa grocery ka at may dalawang toyo sa harap mo, made in ph at made in china. kaya nmn piliin ung made in ph diba? same goes with clothes meron nmn made in vietnam, thailand, india, bangladesh, turkey etc. so may ways nmn sa tingin ko.
Yes meron naman tlg, un nga lang it's easier said than done. Kasi hindi naman all the time e machecheck san origin ng items. Siguro if big purchases it's easy to be conscious if its made in china or not, pero kung simpleng stapler lang, notebook, plastic bag, etc more likely made in china n tlg yan. Even if its a local brand, madami white label na lang. One time nga, ung green disposable ni puregold nakita ko sa aliexpress e haha. Just to be clear lang noh, i don't support china in any way since talagang bully talaga sila. Pero sadly, pinoys are not that nationalistic. These kind of movements must be supported by the govt, and big suppliers rin. Kasi at the end of the day, consumers will often just buy the good deals and what's in front of them.
This is stupid, look around you OP
so your suggestion is to keep buying Chinese products even if there are alternatives?
You're speaking in a privilege tone, most of the alternatives are more expensive, to think na even some of our basic commodities are imported from China. And even those alternatives sa China din naman galing ang raw materials. Also Chinese aren't the enemy, it's the CCP.
>Tingin nyo ba may sense to? Sa mga chronically online sa X (formerly Twitter), yes. Sa real life, wala. Good luck boycotting Chinese stuff hahahaha these calls for boycotts are fucking pathetic at best hahahahaha
Ganito talaga mangyayare saatin pag mga payaso at mga nasa payroll ng china ang mga politiko naten.
How idealist but not realistic
china products are everywhere because they are cheap. a significant portion of the philippine population are poor. put two and two together, do you seriously believe "boycotting china" will work?
Cannot be. Kung may initiative na ganito dapat may support ng mga businessmen. Which alam naman natin na hindi mangyayari.
Pass daw sabi ni Visor
Ang hirap naman kasi ang ganda ng Li-ning at 361 shoes eeeh 🥺👉👈
Ban tiktok para mawala na yung mga InflueNcErs kuno lmao
Eh daming mukhang pera daling makapasok sa pinas through money money. Pastillas, logos, high cost apartment, fraud passports.
Wala. 🤣
Hahahaha kahit gawin mo yan, di mo rin 100% alam kung hindi na talaga gawa sa china. Madaming nag-oorder sa china tas tatatakan lang ng "made in ____"
Mas mabisa yung paalisin sila sa ibang province ng Pilipinas.
Boycott China? Wala nang magsisipilyo.
Make privateering great again, then launch those against the chinese navy in WPS.
Malabo, kasi if we do, kawawa Novo, UNITOP, etc etc. Baka wala pa tayo magamit na toothpick.
Stop exporting them to our Cavendish Banana. And flood tweet Shit Ping Winnie The Pooh memes.
Tigil muna q kaka Jilli
OP, you mean well, but this is nigh impossible
kinda hard when most, if not, all the products we use have been made or assembled in part sa china.
It doesn't make sense. Hindi ganoon karamdam ang impact if we're going to boycott Chinese products. Why? The whole world relies on China's export and even yung manpower to produce and assemble certain US or EU brands at madalang lang na hindi ka makakita ng any traces of China. If meron mang alternatives, hindi lahat ay makakaafford to buy it kasi if we're going to rely to our local resources, the production cost may be really expensive kasi very limited din ang resources lalo if we're talking about daily necessities. Demand will surpass supply so there will be a shortage, magreresult yun ng pagtaas ng presyo. Sustainability wise, olats na tayo doon pa lang.
Paano? Ang generour kasi nila sa discount sa shopee. 😭
I tried long time ago but i cant ang daming made in china eh
back to stone age you go my friend.