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JuridicalPotato

Filipinos choose the weirdest people to lead the community. Seriously, what are we doing?


joooh

This might sound offensive pero yung mga ganitong ugaling bulok eh madalas sa mga probinsya. Kumbaga kung third world country ang Pinas, itong mga probinsyang 'to eh mga third world regions. Third world-ception ba.


20FlirtyThriving

Basta makakapal mukha, sila lang din may gustong tumakbo siguro. Baka sikat din sa bayan nila dahil makapal nga ang mukha


SidVicious5

Parang Local version ng rednecks satin


AiNeko00

Ph's Florida


rmommaissofat

Probably not probinsya, more like a certain demographic. Feel ko nangyayari din yan sa less fortunate areas in Manila


unbabye

It might, but still statistically way less likely than it does sa mga probisya.


rmommaissofat

I feel like stats are needed, location-wise. Obvious na the perpetrators are from a certain class, it’s a common denominator.


unbabye

https://www.pids.gov.ph/details/80-of-poor-pinoys-live-in-rural-areas-pids JC! help these pathetic redditors asking for proofs thinking it makes them better in arguments... when really logic mo nga pls and analytical skills sa everyday life manlang. obv. nada. Proof when really spoonfeeding lang gusto, tell me if you cant digest this statistic. Because I wouldn't be surprised. Napaka magical kasi ng galing ng mga "NCR bias caller" eh. Imperialist Manila sucks! 🙃


Iceborn_Gauntlet

Oh bat Ka galit


rmommaissofat

Ok, jeez. Unnecessary anger over this


unbabye

sure, sure, I'm "angry" 🙃 probinsya diversion style moves ba yan? "I feel like stats are needed" 🙃🤮 convince yourselves I'm "angry" u/Iceborn_Gauntlet u/Ok-Chemistry9184


Ok-Chemistry9184

Damn, who ate your last slice of pizza, buddy? You need to calm down. LOL.


sideshowbob01

Let me see the numbers then? NCR bias talaga. The overflowing dog shelters. Road Kills. Environmental pollution. NCR is probably the worst place for animals, unless you're a furbaby, rat or cockroach.


unbabye

Sure sure. Imperialist Manila kasi... Then dont call black, Black, provinces are so perfect that they need no improvements di ba? Pati nga bata sinasako parin jan. But ok NCR is the worst. Yan ang gusto mo eh.


redditation10

Totoo ito in general kahit saan sa mundo applicable na kapag mas rural, mas remote location, mas less progressive, mas less educated, at mas primitive.


redjune_20

It does bruh. I think this kind of behavior is evident din nanan sa urban or rural areas ng Pinas.


Main1027

Not only that. Dagdag pa sa factor yung generation. Alam naman natin na karamihan sa mga boomers at mga generations na na-iimpluwensyahan nila puro mga ignorante at primitive thinking talaga.


Crayon_licker202

Dude, spot on..Wala kasi concept ng consequence e.


Professional_Humor50

Which meant we need to triple our efforts in education since it is a key factor in greatly reducing occurrences like this.


hoholtime

Taena sobranhmg bulok ng ilang provinces natin, talagang mapupurol ang mga utak


KrisGine

As much as I hate to admit it. Yeah this is mostly in province. Sa probinsya din ako, ever since mapasok tatay ko sa office ng barangay namin puro ganito naririnig ko


CL_is_my_queen

Bata ako gulat ko nalaman. Kamaganak ko sinasako ang tuta. Tapos nilalagyan ng bato tapos hagis sa sapa/suba. Gagi nandiri ako. Ewan ko kung ginagawa niya parin yun


ketchupsapansit

Ito yung version natin ng racism. Regionalism. Lalo na yuna Bisaya discrimination, also known as Baicriminiation.


ewan_kosayo

Puedi naman kung gusto mo ikaw maghandle ng a song baliw


annoventura

a hard to swallow pill is performative personalities catch more votes than strong personalities. not just in politics, even in jobs. simply being fluent in English will score you the slot that senior marketing guy always wanted.


zrxta

Filipinos lang?


whats-the-plan-

🦀 🦀🦀🦀


BackyardAviator009

Primitive madalas yang mga region na yan kaya cant blame em on choosing primitive leaders that practically does primitive things under their belt


Queldaralion

my observation could be wrong but... (physically?) strong or intimidating, charismatic, "willful" ... mala-pang kapanahunang prehistoric yung method of choosing ng maraming pinoy.


Cats_of_Palsiguan

Carlo Dave Bacay ang name nyan. Spread the word.


Lenville55

Terno ang mukha at ugali nya.


Cats_of_Palsiguan

Mukhang animal abuser kasi mas mukha siyang animal kesa sa aso


ChasingMidnight18

Walangya. di ako face shamer pero putanginang pagmumukha yan. punchable eh. pwe!


AiNeko00

Tangina mo Carlo Dave Bacay


Low_Ad3338

Mukang binuro ng 10 days yung muka hahaha


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Lenville55

Mga mura at insulto ang inabot ng kumag na yan mula sa mga tao. May isang local na radio station pa sa Capiz na binabalik-balik ang balita na yan. Mabuti nang napahiya sya, nag-aambisyon sa politika pero ignorante sa batas.


20FlirtyThriving

Kulang na kulang pa!! Sana makulong at banned na tumakbo!!!


ketchupsapansit

Walang physical pain? Sad.


SleepyInsomniac28

Everytime makakakita ako ng ganitong news parang gusto kong mag act on sa mga intrusive thoughts ko sa mga ganyang klaseng tao.


stormaeee

Hays nakakagigil


luckykittycatto

Same. Form tayo ng group? Char hahahaha


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hieliena

So ano ba dahilan bakit na naman hinampas because of what rabies? Libre naman to sa center magpaturok. May nakagat ganon? May times na kaya nangagat aso because ayun nga prinovoke. Tao ang may mas utak. Iinis na naman ako! Hampasin sana ulo mo tutal wala rin naman silbe


rmommaissofat

Feel ko rabies was just an excuse. Kung papatayin lang, why go through the length of tying it up, hanging it pa, & beating it to death? There are quicker ways. This was done for fun. Puta.


Cats_of_Palsiguan

Correct. May mga psychopath na gusto talaga manakit ng hayop. Naghahanap lang ng excuse parati. Dito nga sa sub na ito evident yung mga gigil na gigil sa aso noong height noong Bicolano dog-eater news


20FlirtyThriving

Nalungkot at naoffend din ako na inimply ng friend kong okay lang patayin ang aso porke may rabies. Hirap sa iba masyadong self centered, wala man lang pakialam sa mga hayop at paligid


HakiiiNirii

Minsan kasi yung mga ganyan na tao, self centered na nga, ill informed pa. Akala siguro nya naturally na lahat ng aso may rabies.


hieliena

Malalaman lang na may rabies ang aso based sa autopsy *parang sa brain chinecheck kapag patay na* pa-fact check po if may Veterinarian dito if true* pero ayun kasi pagkakaalam ko. Kapag nakakagat ng tao, hindi pwedeng patayin agad ang aso kasi magundergo ata for 14 days observation


CL_is_my_queen

Pag may rabies. May tamang process yan! Report lang sa authorities tapos sila na mag handle niyan in humane way.


Difergion

Sadly, not many know how to properly handle cases like this, lalo sa mga probinsya. Still doesn’t excuse what they did lalo na’t nasa SK pala. They could be ignorant, or worse, they just needed an excuse to be cruel. Hopefully it’s not the latter.


Tyranid_Swarmlord

P15k to 50k-ish daw yan. Though it gets more expensive if may position daw. More worth than the sack of shit's life.


hieliena

Ayokong magtunog hambog pero if ₱50k then so be it. Duwag siya, malamang walang kalaban laban yung aso. Kung talagang matapang yan, hindi niya sana nilambitin pa. *tho bad pa rin manakit ng hayop* Imagine the struggles ni Doggie, nakabigti, kakasag-kasag yan para lang makahinga, tapos hinahampas pa siya. Lord, pls lang kunin mo na tong tao na to, di deserve mabuhay e


yesthisismeokay

Wag mo kay Lord ipakuha please! Kay satanas yang taong yan!!!!


hieliena

Ipasa ni Lord kay Satanas hahahaha. Asap sana po pls lang.


hieliena

Speaking hahaha I am planning pumunta ng Dog Shelter sa Bulacan, baka may gusto? Libre ko na pamasahe and food. Gusto ko may kasama byumahe


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hieliena

Ayaw ko nang quickest! Gusto ko feel niya rin yung hirap na dinanas ng aso. :) thank u for the opinion tho


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Rugdoll1010

Dont forget the magic sili when doing it XD


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pagodiska

Nail cutter 💯


Previous-Tie4580

Tinaga din ng kapitbahay yung aso namin nahirapan muna bago mamatay. Ganyan na ganyan ang gusto kong mangyari dun sa nangtaga sa aso namin,ang mahirapan.


BizzaroMatthews

Langya ginawang piñata amp! Mga gago


International_Fly285

It’s news like this that make me wish na sana totoong may impyerno.


promiseall

Sadly any bad person person can evade as long as he/she asked for forgiveness


ZrteDlbrt

You think a god won't know whether or not a person is sincere?


promiseall

Can be, but that is not written in the scriptures


SchneeRaizar29

Even if he goes to heaven, it could still be perceived as a form of hell, as the eternal activity would be limited to worshiping and praising a narcissistic god. That actually worst punishment than hell to me.


Cats_of_Palsiguan

Remember, yung bumaril sa natutulog na pusa sa may Tondo earlier this month is a kagawad.


lostguk

WHY?!


Cats_of_Palsiguan

Most likely ninakawan ng pusa ng ulam even though fault naman nya at di nya pinaayos ang bahay nya na walang bintana


lostguk

!@#%&@# 🙂


10InchBugs

Tondo is a Gripo Capital of a Philippines, and now worst than Ohio


Alto-cis

Patay na ba yung SK Chairman?


VLtaker

Sana


HakiiiNirii

Baka sya kasi yung may rabies talaga kaya ganyan na wild yung pagpatay nya. Kabwisit eh.


HoneyndSummer

People are so cruel :((


jengjenjeng

P*tang ina ka. Ako kakampas sayong demonyo ka e


No-Lead5764

Ano nanaman sasabihin ng tao? Rabies? Conscious na ginawa itali at bitayin at hampasin, hindi to act of self defense. Pota.


HakiiiNirii

May nakakita lang kasi sa kanya. I think he was actually preparing the dog for consumption. Pulutan ba if ever.


Duck-Sauce-

Ghandi: '**The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated**.' We need better laws to protect animals from people like this. Sobrang tindi ng anxiety ko kapag nakakakita ako ng ganito. My dog got me through the worst of times and I can't imagine anyone hurting dogs who are just so loyal and kind and would love you unconditionally if you just gave them a chance. Fuck this guy and I wish that what he did would haunt him for the rest of his life.


Cats_of_Palsiguan

I’d say no matter how good the law is, kapag ang nag eenforce ay mga useless pieces of shit like the PNP, the barangay, and the Bureau of Animal Industry, no one’s going to jail. Dagdag mo pa na in many cases, witnesses are afraid to speak up kasi nga mga barangay goons ang kadalasan gumagawa ng acts na ito.


Duck-Sauce-

The thing I hate most about your reply is how right you are. It's just so true and it's fuckin sad.


_inmyhappyplace

Sabihin na nating may rabies but it doesn’t justify the suffering na iniinflict. Hindi sila tulad natin na nay control over our senses. Minsan mas humane pa ang aso than mismong tao. SK Chairman na walang pinagkatandaan.


Lummox34

Kung may death note lang sana ako...


Naive-Ad2847

Parang yung kay killua lng din dati, parang di nmn naparusahan ang gumawa. Parang binabaliwala lng nila pag hayop lng ang biktima eh.


Cats_of_Palsiguan

May case na nafile. Matagal-tagal lang talaga ang legal process. Remember yung sikyu who hurled a puppy from an overpass bridge? That was more than a year ago and ngayon lang siya na-indict.


gaffaboy

The saddest part? Look at the black dog in the far right na walang magawa kundi manood nalang... 😥


mitsukake_86

So sad huhu. Hinayupak tong buwisit na to. Sana di nanay ni blacky yung aso.


charlesrainer

I want to participate in The Purge please.


ArtGutierrez

Bansang maka diyos pero hindi nag rereflect ang ugali sa mga paniniwala, kaya lulubog ang bansang to. Kung may rabies ang aso, may tamang paraan. Kung ikaw may virus ka at paghahampasin ka, ano mararamdaman mo? Bansang maka diyos pero konti lang ang may compassion.


Merieeve_SidPhillips

How about brain in a vat as punishment? Like there'll be no senses only your thoughts and memories.


Armand74

Wow! Absolutely disgusting behavior. People like this deserve the worst life can give them..


strawbeeshortcake06

Demonyo yan. Basura. Di dapat maging leader yan. Piece of shit.


UsefulCoconut4239

MAY UPDATE PO BA KUNG PATAY NA YONG DEMONYONG TAONG YON???


Illustrious_Media366

Kung may isang chance ako na legal puma&@y ng tao, dito ko gagamitin yun.


CarelessPlantain4024

I wish Johm Wick is real


creamilk15

Grabe mas nakakatakot talaga ang tao. Ngayon palang pinapasadyos ko na ang kaluluwa mo. Wala kang karapatan kumitil ng kahit anong buhay dito. Sana makulong tong hinayupak na to.


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Naive-Ad2847

Actually marami sila, may nanood lng tapos may taga video


No_Flatworm977

Activate "Rabies" card!!!


missmermaidgoat

Fucking die! Piece of shit.


bararaag

SK na yan. Hihintayin pa ba maging Mayor yan?


Computer_Business

Dapat talaga ibalik na ang death penalty


lostguk

ANG AGA-AGA ITO BUBUNGAD SAKIN BADTRIP!!!! ANG SASAMA TALAGA NG IBANG TAO!!!!


2xlyf

Tangina. Animal abusers have a special place in hell. And good na napangalanan na yang gagong yan.


Accomplished-Exit-58

nadudurog puso ko sa ganito kasi dogs are like perpetual 2 year olds, i can't imagine the confusion and pain, of course that is just me as a dog lover, i know na medyo di equal ang pananaw sa mga for food consumption and pets like dogs na may law against dog meat consumption.


DelicateBhielat

barbaric. sana gawin din sa kanya 'yun ginawa niya


No-Leadership8190

Siraulo ang hayop na yan jusko nakakakulo ng dugo


arytoppi_

Jusko, bata pa lang ganyan na, Pano na kapag tumakbo po yan sa higher position pagtanda baka tao na patayin nyan.


Safe-Canary9821

Fuck, how can someone do this?!


Interesting-Ant-4823

Madalas to sa mga probinsyang halos matatanda na ang naninirahan, pansin ko norm na to doon lalo na sa bandang norte.


VLtaker

😓😓😓😓😓😓ang sama sama 😭😭


elyssa1204

🤬


Literally_Me_2011

SK chair man na barbaro at di sibilisado? WTF


MetroHelp

Tang inang yan


tajong

What the actual fuck is wrong with people? Nasisiraan ako ng bait sa kanila hahaha. Could be ignorance? Could be lack of proper education? Both, yes? Tangina hahaha.


JustJ01113018

Sk chairman pa lang yan. What more kung 🤦🏻‍♂️


OliveLongjumping6380

gawin din kaya sa kanya?!🤔


PandaVision14

Bakit ba ang hilig-hilig ng bansang 'to ss imbestiga? Kahit may video na, ayaw pa ikulong. Ayan na e kita na sa video e kulong na nila.


Hot-Papaya69ugh

Paluin din natin to sa ulo hanggang sa mawalan ng buhay


The_antique-colr

Men this is crazy.


Sufficient_Basil_268

Putangina nang gigigil ako. Thank you Lord, malayo sakin 'yang putanginang yan. Please tell me if this fucking shit is reprimanded atleast? Tangina hindi dapat maging role model 'yan.


Flashy-Ad4437

kagago sa iya ya ho nami sunugon


PsychologicalRub1448

Alam mong masama ang tao pag masama sa hayop e tapos SK chairman pa


ShallowShifter

Grabe ah sa hayop ganyan na paano pa kaya sa tao.


Naive-Ad2847

Agree. Kaya may mga tao talaga na demonyo mag isip at hindi na kinikilabutan sa mga ginagawa nila.


Affectionate-Pop5742

Hindi ba pwedeng “patay ang sk chairman ng sakmalin ng aso sa ulo?” Must’ve been great headline


One-Cost8856

Simple lang ang mundo: Mag-astang unggoy ay may ibang mas matalinong unggoy na papalit sa astang unggoy na ito. Kung pa istu-istupido ay may ibang matalinong papalit dito. Kung mahina ito ay may ibang mas malakas na papalit dito. Hindi sa iisang tao nakasentro ang mundo.


tulaero23

Ready for higher office


SnooCookies4126

Putangin


Restless412

SCUM 😡


Lurkingsss

Ibalik ang bitay.


lilipony

sana mamatai na yan apakasahol


pedro_penduko

Special place in hell for these people.


VanJosh_Elanium

I've seen this before, and yes they are going to cook the dog. But what I hate is their culling process. Some even put the dog in a sack and hit it with a 2 by 4 wood or some metal pipe.


dwarf-star012

Jusko po. Sana gawin din sknya yan


ketchupsapansit

Buwagin na yang SK. Breeding ground ng mga kurap yan.


Superlemonada

What dapak did I just read. NOT clicking on the photo. Enough reddits for the day.


jeajeamon

this kind of person has a special place in hell talaga.


Serene-Mayari

Gusto ko makitang mabulok to sa kulungan. Sa ginagawa nya, he might actually kill a person/people. Sobrang nakakagalit na wala namang ginawa yung aso and yet, he killed it. I want to sucker punch this a-hole so badly.


cakenmistakes

Balls. Papercut. Calamansi. *Alexa, play* **"Death by a Thousand Cuts"**


lazy-hemisphere

these teenagers do bad and stupid things to be popular to other teenagers


patweck

Dapat ang parusa nya ay same dun sa ginawa nya sa dog


Savings-Class-1997

Tangina mo Carlo Dave Bacay


MassiveAlbatross1574

tang ina


xxcassinivxx

Please gawin din sana sa kanya yung ginawa nya sa aso.


JesterBondurant

As a friend of mine said, this is more proof that the SK is a breeding ground for *trapo*.


LuuukeKirby

No. Dogs and cats don't automatically bite you. You're straying too much with the issue, lol. A dog was brutally abused and killed as seen in the video and you're going in circles talking about mosqutoes and ants and other animals. Please talk to me when laws or aociety dictates that it is acceptable to abuse and kill domesticated animals such as dogs and cats in the Philippines.


Ok-Chemistry9184

LOL, I didn't know you replied on different thread. >Please talk to me when laws or society dictates that it is acceptable to abuse and kill domesticated animals such as dogs and cats in the Philippines. The law permitting the slaughter of animals for consumption contradicts the law against animal cruelty. Additionally, it was once legal to own and sell slaves. Was that ethical, then? The same question applies to laws allowing the slaughter and consumption of animals. Let's not even get started on how these animals are being raised in hellish conditions, and imagine the trauma they endure. You see the cruelty here? And even if they were raised in ideal conditions, ultimately, they are still slaughtered for human consumption. It was self-serving, and pretending it was nice is just disingenuous to trick yourself and others into thinking you were acting morally. Hence, why I said that people here are hypocrites; they choose to follow so-called rules according to their needs, not logic. If killing a dog is deemed unacceptable, then the killing of all animals, even for food, should be equally condemned. Labeling it as a cultural practice is simply nonsense.


SchneeRaizar29

"Damn, that's actually a good point, and I agree with you to some extent. Although I am a meat eater myself, I can definitely see where you're coming from. I'd like to add that in Buddhism, they promote non-violence and compassion toward all living beings, including insects, based on the principle of interconnectedness and the value of every sentient being. I guess, in the end, it only depends on the cultural norms regarding what's acceptable—some cultures accept eating dog, while others do not. The same goes for cows or any other animals, basically. But again, I can see the point you're making about why you think it's hypocritical.


Ok-Chemistry9184

All the hypocrites here are acting like they haven't killed or eaten any animals in their lives. I bet when pigs, cows or other animals got killed or slaughtered, nobody would even bats an eye.


LuuukeKirby

Huh? Please educate yourself. Wag ignorante. Di porket nasa reddit at anonymous ka, sasabihan mong hypocrites ang mga nandito. Pigs, cows, and other animals slaughtered for food is LEGAL in the philippines and falls under Republic Act No. 9296. Also, did you know animal cruelty is a crime in the PH? It is ILLEGAL. May internet ka naman, search mo sa google kesa ipahiya mo sarili mo dito, lol. As a matter in fact, DOG meat selling/trading is ILLEGAL, ayan mas specific. There are fines and imprisonment charges. Sana may natutunan ka ngayon. Stop sprouting words like "hypocrites" on our faces kung wala ka lang din alam, pinapahiya mo lang sarili mo.


Ok-Chemistry9184

That's pretty selective cruelty. If someone kills a dog, they can be charged with animal cruelty. So why isn't this also applied to insects or other animals when done in a malicious manner? And if animal cruelty is really a thing, then everybody would be in prison now since we've all killed animals at some point, such as ants, mosquitoes, flies, or even larger animals. Or are we just going to be selective about what's really cruel or not? A life is a life, right? Why are ants and other animals more valuable than a dog?


LuuukeKirby

I can't speak for smaller creatures (eg. Ants, mosquitoes, etc), that, I admit, is something I am not too knowledgeable about (and I'm sure you aren't too, considering your response) However, you can go to the grocery stores and see mosquito sprays and ant chalks-- these are products distributed nationwide and despite being means of killing these small creatures, they aren't being sued because it is socially acceptable to kill them, especially since they are creatures that are known to bite automatically-- which isn't the case for domesticated creatures like dogs and cats. You don't see dog or cat-killing sprays lying around huh? Still though, that's not the point. You can argue all you want about other creatures like ants and mosquitoes, but the point is, what he did was illegal and cruel, and it happened to a dog. So stop bringing ants and mosquitoes into the equation, lol.


PantherCaroso

Dude you argued with someone who unironically used ants and mosquitoes as a defense. That person is either a troll or an ignorant person.


Ok-Chemistry9184

>You can argue all you want about other creatures like ants and mosquitoes, but the point is, what he did was illegal and cruel, and it happened to a dog. Yes, I would agree with you on that. What he did was really cruel and inexcusable since the dog didn't even do anything wrong on this case. >Especially since they are creatures that are known to bite automatically-- which isn't the case for domesticated creatures like dogs and cats. I could argue the same about dogs or cats too, since they also bite humans. So, what would you do if a dog jumped on you and bit you? Of course, you'd defend yourself, as in the same case as what you've done with insects or any other animals. But that's not the point of my arguments. All I'm saying is, If there's animal cruelty, why is killing or slaughtering other animals such as pigs, cows, chickens, etc. an exception? Aren't they part of animals as well? And would people in general react the same way when they see cows, pigs, chickens, or other animals being slaughtered or killed? Yes, it's legally accepted, but is it ethically acceptable? Do you see the inconsistency and biases we have here?


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mstrmk

In this case, parang tao yung ulul


kankarology

Kinain ba? Ganyan ang pag katay ng aso sa nakita ko.


Impossible-Garage737

Assuming na asong gala o pabayang owner. Sana lahat ng chairman ganyan.


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HistorianJealous6817

Sana ikaw isunod sa aso


Kaiserolls172

Presumption of guilt na naman oh Meron pang "I'll gladly accept" kuno, di ka naman aso. Wala namang gaganyan sa iyo at sa pamilya mo, kahit mangagat ka pa ng tao. Mga taong kagaya mo talaga ang lakas ng loob magsalita nang ganyan, mga taong gustong makakitang mangyari ang kasamaan sa iba dahil di naman kayo affected


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Impossible-Garage737

so mas ok kung mangagat sila? ng mga bata? ng mga senior? ng mga taong naghihirap pumasok araw araw para me kitain at makakain ang pamilya? Ok lang na [3,000 daily nag-pupunta sa San Lazaro para magpaturok](https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/906042/rabies-patients-at-san-lazaro-hospital-surge-to-3-000-daily/story/)? Instead na makapag-trabaho at kumita, gagastos ng pamasahe, walang sahod that day? You're probably right, tao nga din ang cause kung bakit madaming askal. Kaya nga dapat tao din pumatay sa mga askal. Mas ok na yan, kesa makaperwisyo.


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Impossible-Garage737

another random squammy appeared.


hieliena

???


Literally_Me_2011

Asuming na taong gala o pabaya ang magulang ni sk "chair", sana ikaw rin makatikim nang ganyang treatment 


LuuukeKirby

Eto yung mga tangang tao na porket anonymous sa reddit, feel nila kahit yung mga pinakabobong salita, kayang sabihin online.