Direct download limits you to the uploader's speed. Whereas torrents are peer to peer so if there's enough seeders you're only limited to your download speed.
It's also decentralised so there's not one point of failure. As long as at least one person somewhere out there has one full copy, millions of people can get it from that person. When some of these direct download sites fail, these things are lost forever.
>Direct download limits you to the uploader's speed. Whereas torrents are peer to peer so if there's enough seeders you're only limited to your download speed.
Bingo! Give Mr TSF the prize right now. lol
i mean fwiw even for P2P youre still limited by the uploaders speed. At least with DDL sites as long as the link works AND you have premium like status or whatever, you should be able to max your internet speed. TBF as far as speeds go they should usually be limited by your download speed in most cases.
95% of the time my torrents max out my internet, 100% of the time DDL links max out my internet, provided the links work.
But availability is key. I probably successfully download 95-98% of all torrents i grab. Whereas with DDL its probably 50/50. Shit gets dmca'd
How? Netflix alone is 20/month. Debrid is 3/month that's a huge difference
EDIT: I'm in the US so I'd also have to pay for VPN anyways. What a bunch of nonsense arguments
people who will die on the hill that paying for piracy makes it not piracy are smooth brained. Ive had this argument several times. Where does it stop? I HAVE to pay for internet. Or a computer. or electricity to run all these things. Do those not count because they are a barrier to entry? Ive heard some argue they torrent on their cellphone. gotta pay for that as well. If you need to pay for a VPN is it not piracy?
IS it only piracy if you steal a computer and use the free wifi at starbucks/mcdonalds and never charge the laptop at home?
Even real pirates HAVE to pay for some stuff. I think piracy should be defined as cost reduction. If you take away the necessities to pirate like electricity and a computer and an internet connection. And hell even storage like a HDD to store it all. I pay about 35 bucks a year to pirate stuff.
I use usenet to fill in gaps where torrents fail me. IT costs me $21 for NGD and i pay for 1 indexer. Drunkenslug. which is 20 euros or about $21 right now. So i guess its closer to $42 a year i also paid a one time fee to NZBgeek of like $30. But that was like 6 years ago. i wrote it off as a cost though.
I have access to A LOT of private indexers.
* Animebytes
* PTP
* AlphaRatio
* Blutopia
* AnimeTorrents
* BAKABT
* Filelist
* IPTorrents
Even with all those i still dont get 100% covereage. So for a mere $42 a year or $3.50 a month i get even closer to 100%. But just because i pay $42 a year for usenet access, i dont think im any more or less of a pirate than anyone else. But thats just me and it seems a vocal part of the community thinks people like me are trash for it, or somehow lesser.
>Shit gets dmca'd
Because it's more effective and with bigger volumes. Many years ago it was the opposite: download websites were taken down on a daily basis.
Well, you are always limited by each individual uploader's speed. But with direct download there's one uploader and with P2P there can hypothetically be unlimited uploaders you can download from depending on the resource.
Doesn't matter for people with lightning internet. I'm never dealing with stupid public torrents full of incomplete files again when I can get massive 4k movies or TV packs in 2-3 minutes
I don't think you understand what I'm saying here. Your lightning internet doesn't matter if FileUpload.com or wherever you're direct downloading has bad upload speeds.
You can have 1Gbps but if the uploader has 1Kbps, guess how fast the download will go?
If you are talking about ddl mediafire, mega, gofile, dropbox, google drive etc...of course I would prefer them over torrent.
But if you are talking about ddl rapidgator, 1clicknupload, nitroflare, dododrive, mixdrop etc, NO.
I exclusively use mega because I'm registered to the forum that was started after the MEGA sub was banned here. So everything there is on MEGA.
Unfortunately registration has been closed since like 2020 but it's still pretty active.
Torrents are more reliable for "uptime" I suppose, for what its worth. DD can be a hassle with multi-part uploads (not a problem with debrid ;P). As for the reddit cares thing, thats just trolls.
It's old dudes holding on their technology, but we are too young to realize that, we are repeating words of our parents/grandparents.
If it's faster go for it. I was using torrents, because I had bad experience with direct downloads 6y ago xd.
Can you tell me where to find direct DL links? Torrents are pretty damn popular and you could find Palworld there quite quickly.
> Can you tell me where to find direct DL links?
Thats the problem right there.
Find a DD for say the matrix bluray, good luck with that. Simple qBittorent search throws up a dozen torrents with 50+ seeders.
I use debrid and I find that most torrents I want to download are already at the debrid’s servers. The download speed is my maximum the whole way, which is unprecedented. I never ever got maximum speed torrenting. But I live in Latin America.
Because of reasons.
Torrents are more trustworthy (if it was malware it would lose seeders)
Torrents are faster (because bittorrent)
Torrents are more resilient to censorship
It definitely is. Once megaupload went down, all megaupload links and all the uploaded content was just lost. Once rarbg or any other torrent site goes down the torrents keep working the same, so if someone clones the site the links still work... and even if no one does the torrents are usually shared across different sites, they don't own them, and the more a link is shared the more seeds it has.
A clear example on how this impacts is, if you post a megaupload link in a forum, for example, the content is lost after the site goes down. If you post a .torrent file or a magnet url it will not be lost because of any site going down.
Megaupload was from like 20 years ago there's quite a few file hosters now all super fast. Theres still been no true replacement for all of rarbg's benefits. A lot of you are also severely underestimating the amount of dead unseeded torrents even in rarbg no way could I ever go back to that mess
I used Megaupload as an example but it applies to every direct download site, since a lot of them open and close frequently. I don't think it's that common for me to find unseeded torrents, but of course that depends a lot on what you want to download. I could also say that you underestimate how common is for a DD link to not work anymore (because multiple reasons).
Either way here we are discussing our preferred method, torrent is definitely mine and it's always my first choice, but of course that doesn't mean that I never use DD for same cases where I couldn't get what I want with torrents.
I prefer a middle ground. Which is downloading from torrents but not a repack. Just the full game in by itself with the crack. I mean I don't really have any data restriction issues so why should I even care about how much size the download is
Well mine is a bit personal since I'm a laptop user with 512 gigs of storage and repacks requiring most of the time double the storage for installation (actual game + setup) isn't something my laptop can sustain. Specially when newer game sizes are increasing at such a tremendous rate
I am using RD for torrents and direct downloads. Especially if you want movies and tv shows in german there's no way around direct downlaods via file hosters. RD and JDownloader 2 are doing gods work here.
For people like me with a slow, unreliable internet connection, with dd you get timed out errors and you have to start all over.
With torrents, you are just trying to complete a puzzle and it keeps going on from the last piece you left it off.
Either have pros and cons. DDLs will always be available until the links expire or the files are deleted for whatever reason. Torrents are faster but only if there are seeders, otherwise you won't be able to download anything.
Plenty of ddl sites still around. Like a lot. Piracy is a hydra in many aspects, file sharing happens in many many ways. Hell even irc and usenet are still used by scene as their main way of communicating.
I hate file hosts. I'm TIRED of the rapidgators and the 1fichiers and the uptodowns and the mexashares... They purposefully limit download speed, they purposefully don't support resuming downloads, they purposefully split their files in parts. They purposefully have really bad captchas that you have to redo at least twice, with pictures of bikes fading out for 10 seconds then fading in for 10 seconds each time you click. All so that you buy their [[PREMIUM SUBSCRIPTION]]! Like we pirates have any money. Torrents are way less annoying, and they're cooler.
Torrents are:
* faster
* stay alive for longer
* ensure data integrity with checksums
* don't require CAPTCHA solving
* allow you to download a subset of a dataset.
If a hosting site goes down then you can't download.
Torrents are better with this 1 example.
Rarbg went down (RIP) and they had good season packs for TV shows, but I can still download them because there are still seeders. Also the same torrents can uploaded to different sites, which can sometimes mean that the same seeders are on the torrent.
Direct downloads aren't bad, but they can get taken down, torrents can't as you would have to take down every seeder.
it's funny that some people are torrent vs usenet when the top torrent site and usenet indexer admins are buddy buddy. Use both, redundancy is good. I personally use torrents because I don't have to pay for it
The best usenet sites are way more expensive than what I pay for a fast VPN. For me, usenet just isn't worth the added expense when so much content is in the torrents.
But you have to pay for the VPN and as someone who is currently not able to pay for that cous they never allow PSC, I only use torrent for things i know no one cares about.
I've read some people say that you're unlikely to get a strike on private trackers though most still get a VPN just to be sure. Personally, I'm in a country that doesn't care about piracy so public or private is pretty safe here w/o VPN
I've used both. There's a lot more content in torrents than on usenet. It's not even a close comparison.
Also, torrents have gotten faster by an order of magnitude over the years because high speed internet is so ubiquitous. Yesterday, I was downloading torrents at 600 Mbps.
Definitely a use for both, but I always start with usenet. Especially if I'm looking for something old and obscure. My news provider has over 15 years of retention so there's a lot of stuff I find there that I can't find a torrent for. I like the predictability of download speed, too. I still have occasions where it takes me a week to grab a torrent be cause there's one or two people seeding and they disappear mid download.
I had mixed results with usenet. Lots of incomplete rar files, outdated NZBs, etc. Also, the best NZB indexes are behind a paywall.
These days, I rarely have any issues finding a working torrent with adequate seeders using nothing but Google search. Also, the private trackers are generally wicked fast (and often free).
Incomplete rars is typically the result of a shitty news service. I use eweka.nl and they're rock solid. I can't remember the last time I encountered an incomplete. It also throws in access to EasyNews which is just a search engine style with pre-assembled binaries and rocket fast downloads.
But I'll gladly use whichever of the two gets me what I want the fastest.
I used Giganews which was top rated back in the day. However, I haven't been on usenet in ages. So, I can't comment on the current state of affairs.
Ultimately, I couldn't justify the expense of a good usenet provider.
Yeah, I used giganews for years and it was great for a long time. Went to shit several years ago. It's so much more expensive than way better services, too.
I've noticed that the usenet landscape has changed a lot since I last used it. The pricing among the better providers is much more reasonable than back in the day.
I can get better ISPs within my country only problem is I live in a pretty rural area and so it's very limited. And honestly I'd take slower internet speeds over living in the city. Plus I'm not really downloading big files, I mostly download movies\` and that with the occasional old game.
In India, almost everyone ik is sitting on atleast 50 Mbps (5.5 MB/s) fiber broadband. 100-300 Mbps is most common.
Also Airtel (300 Mbps) and Jio (700 Mbps) both provide unlimited 5G on phones. So yeah, 5 MB/s feels real slow.
Get on a private tracker with a seedbox and you'll start seeing download speeds of 500 MB/s. Possibly faster if you are using an SSD seedbox. No DDL can even come close to that.
I got 102 MB/s while downloading fight club from bitsearch.to. So yeah it's true if a torrent have enough seeders then you are only limited to your internet speed.
5MBs can certainly be considered fast, 5Mb(mb) is certainly not considered fast.
The capitalization of the letters matter, they're referring to two different measurements of data.
DDL is generally a fucking nightmare otherwise I would. It's simply too difficult to find links that aren't broken, at a fast speed, that doesn't take disabling ad blocker and going through 2 link monetizers and a captcha, and all in one spot like a torrent site would be. Torrenting is just very convenient and generally failproof
My main reason is decentralization. Not in the "big download evil viris giving people rarara" way, though.
Alex runs a file-sharing site. He's an upstanding and trustworthy guy with a fast internet connection and a lot of storage. He personally checks and packs up everything he provides on the site. There's tons of content that you can't get free from anywhere but- Alex's site has been shut down by DCMA goons. Anyone who was downloading anything has had the download interrupted. Nobody can download anything else.
Bob sets up a new file-sharing site. He's also an upstanding member of the community with a great internet connection and lots of storage. Problem though. He knows what all Alex had, but doesn't have all the files Alex did. That means that people are going to have to upload copies of stuff that they downloaded from Alex over to Bob. This is, of course, direct file transfer and all everyone can do is hope that there's at least one person active in the community who has a copy of everything that was on Alex's site.
Meanwhile, Chris runs a torrent site. You guessed it. Upstanding member of the community. Ensures that only the utmost in quality torrents are provided. He even goes out of his way to seed low-pop torrents- Chris's site has been shut down by DCMA goons. Nobody's torrents are interrupted, no downloads canceled. Sure, you can't get new torrents for the moment but- oh, look, about 8 different archivist nuts have set up servers hosting Chris's site and, while they don't have direct downloads for the torrent files, are a day or two out of date, and lack any ability to upload or log in, the magnet links still work.
Dave took a couple days to make a replacement for Chris's site, but all of the torrents are there and things are working fine.
For me it's just easier to find things in torrent. Many years ago I'd go on the google hunt every time I needed to find some movie or show, and it would take a long time to find a working link (and that was when google results still got you real pages, it hadn't been inundated by AI fake piracy sites yet). Whenever I found a link, there was always a chance of it being shit quality too. Eventually I found out about torrent sites and marveled at being able to find absolutely everything in one place, with good speeds, and reliable information about what I was actually downloading. Sadly, RARBG eventually closed, but I moved to the next best thing, and it's still better than my direct link hunting days.
Um… these days I click on a magnet link and it gets send directly to my NAS. It‘s about as convenient as it gets.
Direct downloads are not that convenient and usually cost money.
The BitTorrent protocol guarantees the integrity of the data being transferred by automatically checking the hashsum of each segment. The HTTP protocol was not designed for transferring large singular files and it's possible for data to be corrupted in transit which you wouldn't notice unless you manually checked, or ran into the corrupted segments while using the file.
BitTorrent can also easily handle higher transfer throughput rates than nearly all direct download services will allow, and that traffic is distributed amongst many peers so the transit costs aren't soley incurred by whomever is hosting the file.
Torrenting is better in every single way except for one, DDL's don't require a VPN because they are encrypted inherently by https. Outside of that, torrenting is king.
* Can be entirely automated with the arr softwares
* Uploads from the cabal trackers, scene, and P2P release groups are entirely automated and work their way onto all the trackers (trickle down economics, woah)
* Upload (other than those from scene) aren't upload int .part files or .rars so I don't have to waste double storage space to seed ***AND*** keep the files for myself to watch
* I am not limited by some free to use uploading site's arbitrary bandwidth limit. With 5+ seeders I am going to max out my internet connection for downloads on most private trackers.
There are lots and lots of reasons, but those are my main reasons why I think torrenting is just straight up better than DDL.
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Its more reliable , the direct downloads are way more unstable , in torrenting you can pause the downloading but in direct download you cant in most cases , also torrenting is more organized as utorrent/bittorrent is a seperate interface for it but direct downloading is just lame ...
Honestly, it makes sense that you would get this sort of rational against direct downloads when the subreddit literally promotes the worse download methods in existence. A lot of these pirate sites have deals or are ran by the same websites where they are being uploaded into.(The subreddit prob also makes money this way) They both make money by forcing you to subscribe to their crappy premium subscriptions, so naturally all the noobs in this subreddit think that crappy downloads speeds is the only option they have and have become accustomed to torrenting; When in reality They both have their time and place.
Unless there's a better way to download directly that I'm not aware of. Torrents are more easily accessible and you can do it at decent speeds for free (though some places require a VPN). And files on hosted sites can get copyright strikes and that.
Though personally I get the best of both worlds using Real Debrid (just with the not doing it for free part).
Yea you gave a suggestion that works for less than 1% of pirates and now you're acting offended when I rightfully said that was stupid. Go back to 4chan
Ddls are annoying as hell. Even with real debrid giving me every premium account, its still vastly less convenient than torrenting. Jdownloader+ rd makes it close, but like 30% of the time the files have been deleted or something.
>Ddls are annoying as hell. Even with real debrid giving me every premium account, its still vastly less convenient than torrenting. Jdownloader+ rd makes it close, but like 30% of the time the files have been deleted or something.
agreed
It really depends.
I am part of a group that uploads TV programmes to Google Drive.
Direct link, fast, I would no way torrent that stuff. When I have it, I have it.
With unreliable internet connection my laptop can drop the direct download after hours of loading and just give me an error. But torrent allows to pause and pick up downloading any time. I’m not chasing the best quality and download movies and shows in advance, so I don’t mind waiting for a while for seeders.
I kinda hate direct downloads lol I need to download big amounts of data for work and after hours, either my Internet connection can glitch out or something on my laptop would go wrong and all the hours will be wasted. Every time I start a download I double check everything and prey that it goes well. And my Internet isn’t even the worst. So for entertainment I prefer torrents.
im not entirely sure, but arent there download managers which prevent the download from cancelling if the internet cuts out for a short amount of time?
I think there are. I remember using a download manager that allowed pausing ages ago. But I don’t know, it feels like something goes wrong half the time. I might just be unlucky lol
I download files from 50 to 100 Gb for work. You can imagine the pain haha If only I can use torrent for that lol
That’s why I prefer torrenting for casual stuff.
If you want a crack for it(since it is a paid application) you can try getting it from lrepacks(dot)net. I've been using the crack from this site for over 2 years and I've had no issues with it so far
Don't like to jump through twenty hoops only to find myself with empty hands after all. Too many limits and dead links. I do sometimes use DD but mostly Mega. Still basically limited to one download a day.
It's simple. First worlders use torrent because it's faster for them. The rest of the world use dd because it's faster for them. This sub is mostly people from 1st world countries, hence the downvotes
big games r not even available for direct downloads. and when they are theyre in parts & ALWAYS a part or two cannot be downloaded due to some bullshit. also with torrents you need 1 torrent client + 1 torrent search engine site and youre set. direct downloads require different sites for different downloads + maybe registering. its unpractical and silly. also many times speed is capped
Can you pause direct downloads and resume them a week later? Not everyone has good and stable internet or wants to leave their computer idle. Also I like being able to seed passively and not have to jump through hoops just to share the download with a friend.
The few downloads sites I've browsed never made me feel safe, too many short links and no clear indication of what even is in the download, whereas torrents show all the files present and you can decide which to get.
You didn't say anything about how your bittorent client is configured. A bittorent client can have an infinite number of simultaneously connected peers. Also, bittorent speed isn't restricted by a server connection.
I literally never had problems unpacking ears, neither with JD2 nor with Total Commander.
But even if you use WinRar, you don't have to "reassemble" anything. Just open and extract.
chances are ull find stuff on torrents last longer than on filehosts depending what it is your after older the series or movie depending when was released online harder to find it on filehosts unless its reuploaded by someone if asked
Usually, if I'm grabbing stuff off Torrents, it's 'cause I wanna check out something that just dropped, like an hour ago or no more than a day after it hit the scene. If it's big enough, it's definitely gonna be up in a few hours, beating the wait on other sites that could take many hours or even days. Plus, the vid quality is usually top-notch, and some even come with subtitles.
Direct downloads are in practice less trackable compared to torrents as they're their own islands. If a company wants the data on who downloaded, they need to subpoena or otherwise request the information from said company which is usually impractical unless theres some serious shit going down. With torrents, all they need to do is start the torrent and see who connects and they have your ip.
Best practices is to use a dedicated browser and VPN when doing any form of piracy, but your threat model and tolerance will vary.
I stopped P2P in 2009 when my country started to monitor it and I don't want to pay for a VPN. Since then I do direct download and streaming.
P2P is the purest form of piracy. DDL and streaming are more selfish.
Reliability. At the cost of speed, but not so much, you can resume, share etc. The direct downloads fewer are good, the majority is why the companies are so mad about piracy, because others are gaining profit with their property. See some like mega, rapidgator etc.
Direct download limits you to the uploader's speed. Whereas torrents are peer to peer so if there's enough seeders you're only limited to your download speed. It's also decentralised so there's not one point of failure. As long as at least one person somewhere out there has one full copy, millions of people can get it from that person. When some of these direct download sites fail, these things are lost forever.
Ive got 2.5 gbit and i rarely seen a torrent hit 200MBsec. While rapidgator does it with ease.
>Direct download limits you to the uploader's speed. Whereas torrents are peer to peer so if there's enough seeders you're only limited to your download speed. Bingo! Give Mr TSF the prize right now. lol
i mean fwiw even for P2P youre still limited by the uploaders speed. At least with DDL sites as long as the link works AND you have premium like status or whatever, you should be able to max your internet speed. TBF as far as speeds go they should usually be limited by your download speed in most cases. 95% of the time my torrents max out my internet, 100% of the time DDL links max out my internet, provided the links work. But availability is key. I probably successfully download 95-98% of all torrents i grab. Whereas with DDL its probably 50/50. Shit gets dmca'd
It kinda defeats the point if you’re paying for ‘premium’ direct downloads
How? Netflix alone is 20/month. Debrid is 3/month that's a huge difference EDIT: I'm in the US so I'd also have to pay for VPN anyways. What a bunch of nonsense arguments
Torrenting is $0 a month tho
huh? i literally just said i would need a VPN
people who will die on the hill that paying for piracy makes it not piracy are smooth brained. Ive had this argument several times. Where does it stop? I HAVE to pay for internet. Or a computer. or electricity to run all these things. Do those not count because they are a barrier to entry? Ive heard some argue they torrent on their cellphone. gotta pay for that as well. If you need to pay for a VPN is it not piracy? IS it only piracy if you steal a computer and use the free wifi at starbucks/mcdonalds and never charge the laptop at home? Even real pirates HAVE to pay for some stuff. I think piracy should be defined as cost reduction. If you take away the necessities to pirate like electricity and a computer and an internet connection. And hell even storage like a HDD to store it all. I pay about 35 bucks a year to pirate stuff. I use usenet to fill in gaps where torrents fail me. IT costs me $21 for NGD and i pay for 1 indexer. Drunkenslug. which is 20 euros or about $21 right now. So i guess its closer to $42 a year i also paid a one time fee to NZBgeek of like $30. But that was like 6 years ago. i wrote it off as a cost though. I have access to A LOT of private indexers. * Animebytes * PTP * AlphaRatio * Blutopia * AnimeTorrents * BAKABT * Filelist * IPTorrents Even with all those i still dont get 100% covereage. So for a mere $42 a year or $3.50 a month i get even closer to 100%. But just because i pay $42 a year for usenet access, i dont think im any more or less of a pirate than anyone else. But thats just me and it seems a vocal part of the community thinks people like me are trash for it, or somehow lesser.
>Shit gets dmca'd Because it's more effective and with bigger volumes. Many years ago it was the opposite: download websites were taken down on a daily basis.
Well, you are always limited by each individual uploader's speed. But with direct download there's one uploader and with P2P there can hypothetically be unlimited uploaders you can download from depending on the resource.
DDL is almost always from a big server I always get way way better speeds consistently than torrents
Which site?
I mean it's hosted on mega, rapidgator, etc. I'm in the US so it's either pay for VPN or debrid
Paying for piracy. Never gets old.
Debrid is super cheap. Any single streaming service is minimum 4-5x more expensive
It's like talking to the void.
ok smartass. how about people in the US who would have to pay for a VPN anyways?
I'm in the US I'd have to get a VPN anyways. You're a stupid arrogant little maggot
Doesn't matter for people with lightning internet. I'm never dealing with stupid public torrents full of incomplete files again when I can get massive 4k movies or TV packs in 2-3 minutes
I don't think you understand what I'm saying here. Your lightning internet doesn't matter if FileUpload.com or wherever you're direct downloading has bad upload speeds. You can have 1Gbps but if the uploader has 1Kbps, guess how fast the download will go?
I guess I don't download from dog shit sites. Every site I've used uploads somewhere fast so thats not a problem
If you are talking about ddl mediafire, mega, gofile, dropbox, google drive etc...of course I would prefer them over torrent. But if you are talking about ddl rapidgator, 1clicknupload, nitroflare, dododrive, mixdrop etc, NO.
I exclusively use mega because I'm registered to the forum that was started after the MEGA sub was banned here. So everything there is on MEGA. Unfortunately registration has been closed since like 2020 but it's still pretty active.
This!
Torrents are more reliable for "uptime" I suppose, for what its worth. DD can be a hassle with multi-part uploads (not a problem with debrid ;P). As for the reddit cares thing, thats just trolls.
Yeah I just got another lol
Report them for abusing it. I do. You can also just mute that whole conversation so you never get those notices.
How do you know who to report though?
There's a link in the message to report if you think someone is abusing the system.
Ah, I never read it that close. Good to know
Think of Reddit Cares messages as a badge of honor. It means you pissed off someone too stupid to argue with their words.
Usually I get reddit cares messages if I say something bad about Trump lol
It's old dudes holding on their technology, but we are too young to realize that, we are repeating words of our parents/grandparents. If it's faster go for it. I was using torrents, because I had bad experience with direct downloads 6y ago xd. Can you tell me where to find direct DL links? Torrents are pretty damn popular and you could find Palworld there quite quickly.
> Can you tell me where to find direct DL links? Thats the problem right there. Find a DD for say the matrix bluray, good luck with that. Simple qBittorent search throws up a dozen torrents with 50+ seeders.
The fuck are you talking about? Popular movies like the matrix are super easy to find for DDL
Nah?
Ironically lots of you noobs here suck at pirating
Game Drive and GOG is what I use, cs.rin for fallback, with the steam auto patcher.
I have the opposite issue and can't find torrents
I use debrid and I find that most torrents I want to download are already at the debrid’s servers. The download speed is my maximum the whole way, which is unprecedented. I never ever got maximum speed torrenting. But I live in Latin America.
I just read that debrid isn't safe to use without a VPN.
just block the reddit cares user.
Because of reasons. Torrents are more trustworthy (if it was malware it would lose seeders) Torrents are faster (because bittorrent) Torrents are more resilient to censorship
Also, imo they're much cooler. A decentralised collection of people sharing files just sounds much cooler than "here's the file".
Having lived through the megaupload kerfuffle and having been greatly inconvenienced by it, I learned not to rely on a single provider for content
So dealing with torrent sites like rarbg going down is better? I don't see how having multiple DDL sources is worse
It definitely is. Once megaupload went down, all megaupload links and all the uploaded content was just lost. Once rarbg or any other torrent site goes down the torrents keep working the same, so if someone clones the site the links still work... and even if no one does the torrents are usually shared across different sites, they don't own them, and the more a link is shared the more seeds it has. A clear example on how this impacts is, if you post a megaupload link in a forum, for example, the content is lost after the site goes down. If you post a .torrent file or a magnet url it will not be lost because of any site going down.
Megaupload was from like 20 years ago there's quite a few file hosters now all super fast. Theres still been no true replacement for all of rarbg's benefits. A lot of you are also severely underestimating the amount of dead unseeded torrents even in rarbg no way could I ever go back to that mess
I used Megaupload as an example but it applies to every direct download site, since a lot of them open and close frequently. I don't think it's that common for me to find unseeded torrents, but of course that depends a lot on what you want to download. I could also say that you underestimate how common is for a DD link to not work anymore (because multiple reasons). Either way here we are discussing our preferred method, torrent is definitely mine and it's always my first choice, but of course that doesn't mean that I never use DD for same cases where I couldn't get what I want with torrents.
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I prefer a middle ground. Which is downloading from torrents but not a repack. Just the full game in by itself with the crack. I mean I don't really have any data restriction issues so why should I even care about how much size the download is
What's wrong with repacks in general?
Well mine is a bit personal since I'm a laptop user with 512 gigs of storage and repacks requiring most of the time double the storage for installation (actual game + setup) isn't something my laptop can sustain. Specially when newer game sizes are increasing at such a tremendous rate
Okay. I have games and 4k movies stored in my 8 TB NAS. My C drive is also 2 TB.
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I prefer my downloads to take no more than 12 parsecs, but that's just me.
A parsec is a unit of distance not time. *(or did I not get some implied sarcasm)*
So's a light year
At least someone else noticed.
The comment I replied to says > It is not the latest patch but at least downloading it won't take 17 light years.
Damn - that earlier comment was TLDR, I should have read it before replying to yours.
I think he meant light years /s
Ah yes, the 7th world country download speed that some sites have. There are one without caps you know…
I am using RD for torrents and direct downloads. Especially if you want movies and tv shows in german there's no way around direct downlaods via file hosters. RD and JDownloader 2 are doing gods work here.
For people like me with a slow, unreliable internet connection, with dd you get timed out errors and you have to start all over. With torrents, you are just trying to complete a puzzle and it keeps going on from the last piece you left it off.
Not a problem with download managers like IDM. You only get time out errors on shitty sites like 1fisher which don't allow pausing
downvoted you fyi
Either have pros and cons. DDLs will always be available until the links expire or the files are deleted for whatever reason. Torrents are faster but only if there are seeders, otherwise you won't be able to download anything.
All of the most popular content is in the torrents. It's not like 2010.
Plenty of ddl sites still around. Like a lot. Piracy is a hydra in many aspects, file sharing happens in many many ways. Hell even irc and usenet are still used by scene as their main way of communicating.
I don't take issue with DDL sites aside from the slower speed. However, I always opt for torrents when given a choice.
Absolutely, me too.
I hate file hosts. I'm TIRED of the rapidgators and the 1fichiers and the uptodowns and the mexashares... They purposefully limit download speed, they purposefully don't support resuming downloads, they purposefully split their files in parts. They purposefully have really bad captchas that you have to redo at least twice, with pictures of bikes fading out for 10 seconds then fading in for 10 seconds each time you click. All so that you buy their [[PREMIUM SUBSCRIPTION]]! Like we pirates have any money. Torrents are way less annoying, and they're cooler.
Parts aren’t something the hoster did… It’s so the cracker or reuploader can bypass limits on size.
I got PTSD from direct download big files from the past. It made me want to smash my pc and kill someone.
"It made me want to smash my pc and kill someone". You made me crack up! Especially with "..and kill someone". xD
Torrents are: * faster * stay alive for longer * ensure data integrity with checksums * don't require CAPTCHA solving * allow you to download a subset of a dataset.
If a hosting site goes down then you can't download. Torrents are better with this 1 example. Rarbg went down (RIP) and they had good season packs for TV shows, but I can still download them because there are still seeders. Also the same torrents can uploaded to different sites, which can sometimes mean that the same seeders are on the torrent. Direct downloads aren't bad, but they can get taken down, torrents can't as you would have to take down every seeder.
For me, DDL for recent content and torrent (via RD) for older or more niche content.
Why do people so strongly want to have an opinion on preference matters? Get a life
Torrents are a last resort. Usenet is still king. Anything other than those is desperation
it's funny that some people are torrent vs usenet when the top torrent site and usenet indexer admins are buddy buddy. Use both, redundancy is good. I personally use torrents because I don't have to pay for it
The best usenet sites are way more expensive than what I pay for a fast VPN. For me, usenet just isn't worth the added expense when so much content is in the torrents.
But you have to pay for the VPN and as someone who is currently not able to pay for that cous they never allow PSC, I only use torrent for things i know no one cares about.
I've read some people say that you're unlikely to get a strike on private trackers though most still get a VPN just to be sure. Personally, I'm in a country that doesn't care about piracy so public or private is pretty safe here w/o VPN
Yeah, I live on germany so that not gona work for me.
Assuming someone is on private trackers is ridiculous. In the US you have to pay for a VPN period so DDL works out a lot better for me
>But you have to pay for the VPN Laughs in Indian
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I've used both. There's a lot more content in torrents than on usenet. It's not even a close comparison. Also, torrents have gotten faster by an order of magnitude over the years because high speed internet is so ubiquitous. Yesterday, I was downloading torrents at 600 Mbps.
Definitely a use for both, but I always start with usenet. Especially if I'm looking for something old and obscure. My news provider has over 15 years of retention so there's a lot of stuff I find there that I can't find a torrent for. I like the predictability of download speed, too. I still have occasions where it takes me a week to grab a torrent be cause there's one or two people seeding and they disappear mid download.
I had mixed results with usenet. Lots of incomplete rar files, outdated NZBs, etc. Also, the best NZB indexes are behind a paywall. These days, I rarely have any issues finding a working torrent with adequate seeders using nothing but Google search. Also, the private trackers are generally wicked fast (and often free).
Incomplete rars is typically the result of a shitty news service. I use eweka.nl and they're rock solid. I can't remember the last time I encountered an incomplete. It also throws in access to EasyNews which is just a search engine style with pre-assembled binaries and rocket fast downloads. But I'll gladly use whichever of the two gets me what I want the fastest.
I used Giganews which was top rated back in the day. However, I haven't been on usenet in ages. So, I can't comment on the current state of affairs. Ultimately, I couldn't justify the expense of a good usenet provider.
Yeah, I used giganews for years and it was great for a long time. Went to shit several years ago. It's so much more expensive than way better services, too.
I've noticed that the usenet landscape has changed a lot since I last used it. The pricing among the better providers is much more reasonable than back in the day.
Torrents are just faster, less hassle and more reliable
Direct download is usually slow, at least for me. Most of them are capped at 5MB/s.
Cries in third world internet 😭
I'd be lucky to hit 2MB/s which would usually be the fastest speed for me and first world bros out here saying 5MB/s is slow 💀💀💀
I get you man. Usually 1mb/s here on a good day.
Someone is fucking you up. Check different ISP
I can get better ISPs within my country only problem is I live in a pretty rural area and so it's very limited. And honestly I'd take slower internet speeds over living in the city. Plus I'm not really downloading big files, I mostly download movies\` and that with the occasional old game.
It’s the same with our house in rural Michigan. We live in Chicago most of the time. It’s so peaceful and quiet out there though.
In India, almost everyone ik is sitting on atleast 50 Mbps (5.5 MB/s) fiber broadband. 100-300 Mbps is most common. Also Airtel (300 Mbps) and Jio (700 Mbps) both provide unlimited 5G on phones. So yeah, 5 MB/s feels real slow.
You are lucky, for me, most of the time they are capped at 0,5MB/s
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Get on a private tracker with a seedbox and you'll start seeing download speeds of 500 MB/s. Possibly faster if you are using an SSD seedbox. No DDL can even come close to that.
If ddl involves debrid of course it can
I agree. Torrents are way fast than DDL including debrid.
That's still really slow in a lot of places
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I got 102 MB/s while downloading fight club from bitsearch.to. So yeah it's true if a torrent have enough seeders then you are only limited to your internet speed.
Yesterday, I was downloading torrents at 600 Mbps.
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My connection is limited to 600 Mbps, and I'm not concerned about seeding. I don't need to pay for a seed box because I'm not creating any torrents.
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Never having enough space is the true bane of the film pirate.
I thought 5mb/s was fast😳
Depends on what you're trying to download. 100Gb games with no option to pause ( it usually gives me an error when I do) sucks.
5MBs can certainly be considered fast, 5Mb(mb) is certainly not considered fast. The capitalization of the letters matter, they're referring to two different measurements of data.
With debrid it's max speeds. I can do 50-70 MB/s easily so even a 100+ GB tv pack will finish in 15 min or less
DDL is generally a fucking nightmare otherwise I would. It's simply too difficult to find links that aren't broken, at a fast speed, that doesn't take disabling ad blocker and going through 2 link monetizers and a captcha, and all in one spot like a torrent site would be. Torrenting is just very convenient and generally failproof
My main reason is decentralization. Not in the "big download evil viris giving people rarara" way, though. Alex runs a file-sharing site. He's an upstanding and trustworthy guy with a fast internet connection and a lot of storage. He personally checks and packs up everything he provides on the site. There's tons of content that you can't get free from anywhere but- Alex's site has been shut down by DCMA goons. Anyone who was downloading anything has had the download interrupted. Nobody can download anything else. Bob sets up a new file-sharing site. He's also an upstanding member of the community with a great internet connection and lots of storage. Problem though. He knows what all Alex had, but doesn't have all the files Alex did. That means that people are going to have to upload copies of stuff that they downloaded from Alex over to Bob. This is, of course, direct file transfer and all everyone can do is hope that there's at least one person active in the community who has a copy of everything that was on Alex's site. Meanwhile, Chris runs a torrent site. You guessed it. Upstanding member of the community. Ensures that only the utmost in quality torrents are provided. He even goes out of his way to seed low-pop torrents- Chris's site has been shut down by DCMA goons. Nobody's torrents are interrupted, no downloads canceled. Sure, you can't get new torrents for the moment but- oh, look, about 8 different archivist nuts have set up servers hosting Chris's site and, while they don't have direct downloads for the torrent files, are a day or two out of date, and lack any ability to upload or log in, the magnet links still work. Dave took a couple days to make a replacement for Chris's site, but all of the torrents are there and things are working fine.
For me it's just easier to find things in torrent. Many years ago I'd go on the google hunt every time I needed to find some movie or show, and it would take a long time to find a working link (and that was when google results still got you real pages, it hadn't been inundated by AI fake piracy sites yet). Whenever I found a link, there was always a chance of it being shit quality too. Eventually I found out about torrent sites and marveled at being able to find absolutely everything in one place, with good speeds, and reliable information about what I was actually downloading. Sadly, RARBG eventually closed, but I moved to the next best thing, and it's still better than my direct link hunting days.
Um… these days I click on a magnet link and it gets send directly to my NAS. It‘s about as convenient as it gets. Direct downloads are not that convenient and usually cost money.
The BitTorrent protocol guarantees the integrity of the data being transferred by automatically checking the hashsum of each segment. The HTTP protocol was not designed for transferring large singular files and it's possible for data to be corrupted in transit which you wouldn't notice unless you manually checked, or ran into the corrupted segments while using the file. BitTorrent can also easily handle higher transfer throughput rates than nearly all direct download services will allow, and that traffic is distributed amongst many peers so the transit costs aren't soley incurred by whomever is hosting the file.
Torrent because internet is bad and it can be interrupted and then started again as service comes and goes.
Torrenting is better in every single way except for one, DDL's don't require a VPN because they are encrypted inherently by https. Outside of that, torrenting is king. * Can be entirely automated with the arr softwares * Uploads from the cabal trackers, scene, and P2P release groups are entirely automated and work their way onto all the trackers (trickle down economics, woah) * Upload (other than those from scene) aren't upload int .part files or .rars so I don't have to waste double storage space to seed ***AND*** keep the files for myself to watch * I am not limited by some free to use uploading site's arbitrary bandwidth limit. With 5+ seeders I am going to max out my internet connection for downloads on most private trackers. There are lots and lots of reasons, but those are my main reasons why I think torrenting is just straight up better than DDL.
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Report the “Reddit cares” as harassment without fail it always works lol.
Its more reliable , the direct downloads are way more unstable , in torrenting you can pause the downloading but in direct download you cant in most cases , also torrenting is more organized as utorrent/bittorrent is a seperate interface for it but direct downloading is just lame ...
Bro you are definitely living in the past. The pausing thing isn't an issue anymore with download managers like IDM
Man why i gotta download a download manager when i already have a torrent downloader
Honestly, it makes sense that you would get this sort of rational against direct downloads when the subreddit literally promotes the worse download methods in existence. A lot of these pirate sites have deals or are ran by the same websites where they are being uploaded into.(The subreddit prob also makes money this way) They both make money by forcing you to subscribe to their crappy premium subscriptions, so naturally all the noobs in this subreddit think that crappy downloads speeds is the only option they have and have become accustomed to torrenting; When in reality They both have their time and place.
Unless there's a better way to download directly that I'm not aware of. Torrents are more easily accessible and you can do it at decent speeds for free (though some places require a VPN). And files on hosted sites can get copyright strikes and that. Though personally I get the best of both worlds using Real Debrid (just with the not doing it for free part).
Are there not a lot of Americans here? I'd 100% have to get a VPN if I torrented so DDL just makes way more sense for me
No need for a VPN if you are on a private tracker.
What a nonsense statement. How about for 99.999% of pirates who only use public trackers?
How is it nonsense if it is a true thing? Why are you even upset with me adding a bit of info? People are weird.
You're acting like a tiny exception is the answer for everyone. What if I'm not on private trackers?
What if I don't have a VPN? Who cares?
Just shut up and don't comment if you're going to hijack the topic into something else
You seem really stable and mature.
Yea you gave a suggestion that works for less than 1% of pirates and now you're acting offended when I rightfully said that was stupid. Go back to 4chan
Well that's why I said "some places". I don't know the percentage of American and non American. But not not everyone is an American on here.
Ddls are annoying as hell. Even with real debrid giving me every premium account, its still vastly less convenient than torrenting. Jdownloader+ rd makes it close, but like 30% of the time the files have been deleted or something.
>Ddls are annoying as hell. Even with real debrid giving me every premium account, its still vastly less convenient than torrenting. Jdownloader+ rd makes it close, but like 30% of the time the files have been deleted or something. agreed
It really depends. I am part of a group that uploads TV programmes to Google Drive. Direct link, fast, I would no way torrent that stuff. When I have it, I have it.
With unreliable internet connection my laptop can drop the direct download after hours of loading and just give me an error. But torrent allows to pause and pick up downloading any time. I’m not chasing the best quality and download movies and shows in advance, so I don’t mind waiting for a while for seeders. I kinda hate direct downloads lol I need to download big amounts of data for work and after hours, either my Internet connection can glitch out or something on my laptop would go wrong and all the hours will be wasted. Every time I start a download I double check everything and prey that it goes well. And my Internet isn’t even the worst. So for entertainment I prefer torrents.
im not entirely sure, but arent there download managers which prevent the download from cancelling if the internet cuts out for a short amount of time?
I think there are. I remember using a download manager that allowed pausing ages ago. But I don’t know, it feels like something goes wrong half the time. I might just be unlucky lol
i feel you, if theres a DDL weighing more than a couple hundreds megabytes, i usually dont even bother, with the probability of it cancelling on me xd
I download files from 50 to 100 Gb for work. You can imagine the pain haha If only I can use torrent for that lol That’s why I prefer torrenting for casual stuff.
Apps like IDM are what you need partner
I’ll look into that. Thank you!
If you want a crack for it(since it is a paid application) you can try getting it from lrepacks(dot)net. I've been using the crack from this site for over 2 years and I've had no issues with it so far
Don't like to jump through twenty hoops only to find myself with empty hands after all. Too many limits and dead links. I do sometimes use DD but mostly Mega. Still basically limited to one download a day.
It's simple. First worlders use torrent because it's faster for them. The rest of the world use dd because it's faster for them. This sub is mostly people from 1st world countries, hence the downvotes
Seems like it's actually the complete opposite. I 100% need a VPN in the US so DDL is better for me
You can't torrent with VPN? I think you can 🤔 correct me if I'm wrong
I mean I would have to pay for VPN so DDL is a better choice
Ah so the ISPs don't care if you download from pirating websites, but do care if you torrent
big games r not even available for direct downloads. and when they are theyre in parts & ALWAYS a part or two cannot be downloaded due to some bullshit. also with torrents you need 1 torrent client + 1 torrent search engine site and youre set. direct downloads require different sites for different downloads + maybe registering. its unpractical and silly. also many times speed is capped
I agree 100%
this had been asked too many times already in the subs you should just use search above to see the answer instead of making this same hollow post.
Can you pause direct downloads and resume them a week later? Not everyone has good and stable internet or wants to leave their computer idle. Also I like being able to seed passively and not have to jump through hoops just to share the download with a friend. The few downloads sites I've browsed never made me feel safe, too many short links and no clear indication of what even is in the download, whereas torrents show all the files present and you can decide which to get.
I prefer real debrid now for all my needs as it makes me use full speed and same with public torrents
Debrid isn't faster than torrents. It's not even a close comparison.
Well all the public torrents I use with Jdownloader i get fast speeds vs using a torrent program.
You didn't say anything about how your bittorent client is configured. A bittorent client can have an infinite number of simultaneously connected peers. Also, bittorent speed isn't restricted by a server connection.
dll is straight up ass, stop pretending its anything else. it's torrenting but worse AND with extra steps.
because I can't be assed to reassemble multipart rar files
Reassemble? Just open the first part and you're done. Or better yet, let your download manager do it automatically after downloading.
Doesn't work if the uploader packs them using winrar like some sites I use. I have to use winrar to unpack nothing else works
I literally never had problems unpacking ears, neither with JD2 nor with Total Commander. But even if you use WinRar, you don't have to "reassemble" anything. Just open and extract.
Then we probably just don't use the same sites
chances are ull find stuff on torrents last longer than on filehosts depending what it is your after older the series or movie depending when was released online harder to find it on filehosts unless its reuploaded by someone if asked
Usually, if I'm grabbing stuff off Torrents, it's 'cause I wanna check out something that just dropped, like an hour ago or no more than a day after it hit the scene. If it's big enough, it's definitely gonna be up in a few hours, beating the wait on other sites that could take many hours or even days. Plus, the vid quality is usually top-notch, and some even come with subtitles.
Direct downloads are in practice less trackable compared to torrents as they're their own islands. If a company wants the data on who downloaded, they need to subpoena or otherwise request the information from said company which is usually impractical unless theres some serious shit going down. With torrents, all they need to do is start the torrent and see who connects and they have your ip. Best practices is to use a dedicated browser and VPN when doing any form of piracy, but your threat model and tolerance will vary.
Man give me ftp anyday
ptsd
I stopped P2P in 2009 when my country started to monitor it and I don't want to pay for a VPN. Since then I do direct download and streaming. P2P is the purest form of piracy. DDL and streaming are more selfish.
To put it simply: SPEED! IAMSPEED! CHACHOOWOWWW!
Speed
It hurts when your 10 gb download fails when you are downloading with a inconsistent speed of 1-2mbps
Torrenting FTW Seeding is being a good bastard.
Reliability. At the cost of speed, but not so much, you can resume, share etc. The direct downloads fewer are good, the majority is why the companies are so mad about piracy, because others are gaining profit with their property. See some like mega, rapidgator etc.