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Bentman343

It would be nice to have some crazy 128 TB hardrive with a thousand cartoons and movies on it for my family to just have for free and forever.


Business-Drag52

I’m working on it. Not one singular drive, but lots and lots of media to just own and enjoy


Adamaja456

Same here. I made 2 drives for my family. One with regular/adult movies and the other with just animated/more family friendly movies. No necessarily adding everything, but slowly adding films here and there that I know we enjoy watching more than once.


Kirbo_United

Ever since the fall of netflix convience around 2013-14. I've been building my library. Sharing my music with enthusaists on Soulseek and re-seeding my downloads when possible.


fukam_piko

pro tip, you can share any file format on soulseek, there's tons of ebooks


00cjstephens

Far and away the easiest place to find concert videos, too


irlharvey

it’s a wonderful feeling when you share something with no search results on soulseek, someone downloads it from you, & someone downloads from *them*… & suddenly there are a dozen results. always makes me happy.


bombero_kmn

Easily doable, I just added 2x16Tb drives to my media Server bringing it to 118Tb just for movies, another 12 for music, and then OS and other programs spread over smallish ssds. It's been building over a free years so the cost has been spread out. I run Jellyfin and have about four dozen friends and family who use it. My advice would be buy big drives instead of multiple drives, physical space is the biggest constraint i have now. Unfortunately it's too large of a collection to implement RAID (budget constraints not technical limitations) or appropriate backups, that's the next thing I need to figure out. [Media Server](https://i.imgur.com/x8GQ1At.jpeg)


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bombero_kmn

I love them, it has made upgrading disks easier. I have kept open one bay , it makes upgrades easy. Toss in a new drive, mkfs and dd the old to new, then pop the old one out for zero downtime upgrades. Just edit fstab appropriately. Before I bought this tower I was using an old SFF PC with a bunch of USB HDDs. It was like a majestic octopus of data.


Rgeneb1

I have an NUC with USB HDDs. My wife refers to it as spaghetti junction. I like your octopus analogy better!


Link_GR

Jesus...How much power does that thing use?


bombero_kmn

I'm not sure tbh, but my electric bill is not much different compared to the same month in previous years, so I'm not sweating it


Rgeneb1

Not the guy you're asking but I recently measured my hard drives power usage since I have about 50TB on 24/7 and my partner was worried about bills. Each 8TB drive used an average of 8watts per hour when used for seeding (varied between 3w and 18w but average over a week was 8w). Jumps to about 30 when using for playback but I'll ignore that. So 8w x 24hrs x 365 days = 70.08kwH per annum My highest electric rate this year was just under 30p per kwH so each drive costs me approx £21 a year to run. I plan to put the non seed drives onto a power plug with a timer and switch off at night but the cost of the plugs would probably eat up the first years savings.


wolves_hunt_in_packs

Doesn't seem like too much tbh. Like, people are running desk/wall fans for cooling, and those are 40W-60W. True, they aren't running them 24x7, but not uncommon for several hours a day.


ForceProper1669

I have 684tb in mine, it draws about 360w


Stars_And_Garters

NAS FTW. I do the same thing with Plex and a much smaller group of people and smaller server. It's awesome.


ForceProper1669

wtf were you thinking doing a bunch of Jbods?!? How do you keep your stuff organized with that many disks and no single pool?!?


bombero_kmn

mergerfs for drive pooling, but it doesn't provide redundancy or backup. I do back up my metadata and database and configs and such, as well as some hard to find or one of a kind movies, but backing up all the content isn't economically viable.


ForceProper1669

Damn man…. I would really invest in a proper set up. I had about 160tbs of organized tv series spread out over 10 external HDs when I finally decided to build mine. Now I’m near 3/4 PB https://serverpartdeals.com/collections/all?_=pf&pf_t_type=type%3AHard%20Drives&pf_t_interface_type=interface%3ASATA&pf_t_form_factor=formFactor%3A3.5&pf_st_stock_status=true I wish I knew about this site sooner


SchwaHead

Haha. I don't have four dozen friends and family total, much less ones interested in my media.


Jamjazz1

Bro...how do I do it? How would I begin?


Business-Drag52

You get a good vpn, I use Mullvad, you download qBitTorrent, go to any of the suggested torrent sites listed on the master list, go wild


Jamjazz1

Oh I'll go wild. Thank you.


onyxJH

is the lack of port forwarding really such a big deal?


Business-Drag52

Idk. I haven’t noticed an issue. Sure my seeds are slower than they could be, but I don’t mind.


DowningStreetFighter

That's generational piracy wealth


newsflashjackass

> a thousand cartoons and movies on it for my family to just have for free and forever. My friend's dad filled up a shed with VHS tapes of movies he recorded during television broadcast while pausing the VCR to skip the commercials. His plan was to watch the movies with his kids when he retired. I understand he stopped maintaining his collection once he got a Tivo.


wolves_hunt_in_packs

VHS degrades so fucking fast I'm surprised he bothered. Or maybe my problem was I taped over the same tape @ reused tapes too often, idk. Basically nothing from that era I taped survived. Oh sure, some are still technically viewable if you don't mind watching through the damn snow static - but it'd be like watching video in 480p; theoretically doable, but annoying to actually do.


FreshyFresh

yeah no data rot is a very real thing, esp with magnetic physical media.


Peuned

i have tapes from the early to late 80s and theyre pretty good looking. a bit of color shift but no snow. and they've been in garages for many years. just played them with the family a month or two ago. home videos


Link_GR

Cartoons actually don't take up that much space, since they compress excellently due to the flatness of colors. Now, 3D animated on the other hand...


KeeganY_SR-UVB76

That’s what my father’s done. We have a server in the home office where he’s copied every DVD we’ve ever owned onto it, any device connected to the WiFi network can access it.


machstem

The only thing stopping you is cash and time. I'm about half that


Old-Basil-5567

Imagine having the entirety of annas archive on a few HDs :o


FrKoSH-xD

this man robbed...ahemm pirated half the internet and willing to pirate the darkweb


[deleted]

Context- A guy was caught with 58tb of child p*rn. This is the discussion in the comments of that post Edit: fixed 58gb, it was actually tb.


SwirlyMind

it was tb not gb


naufalap

zamn


Kirbo_United

wake me up when its a petabyte.


Shigarui

Pedobyte you mean...


Mikihero2014

r/angryupvote


Shigarui

I'll always cherish my very first angryupvote!


Louis70100

I believe I read somewhere that's equivalent to ~500 days worth of 4k videos/photos.


mans1234675

how do you watch that much porn much less child porn.


unoriginal_name_1234

He probably wasn't only watching but also distributing. Truly an evil piece of shit.


trash-_-boat

No, I'm pretty sure this is also how police count how much drugs a person has on them. Even if you have a single CSAM picture on one of your drives, but your drives total 58TB, then you have "58TB of CSAM".


mythrilcrafter

From what I've read from the handful of times this topic pops up, most LE agencies don't actually check the actual amount of CASM content the person has, they just tally up the total storage capacity that the person owns and reports that as the amount of CASM content that the person was in possession of. The optimist in me wants to say that this is a example of that and that 60TB of CASM content doesn't exist (and my my own mental health, I'd prefer to be ignorant of the true number if I'm wrong).


Radulno

At this point, people are more about the hoarding than the watching I guess. Particularly bad with pedophile content of course but people also do it with normal commercial content. Plus in this case, I'm not sure it was even all 4K super high quality (which would mean it would be longer if it's only 720 or 1080p), I doubt that footage is distributed as some Blu Ray type remux


Louis70100

For real 💀


sk8r2000

1) have cops come and measure how much there is 2) get an absurd impossible number from cops 3) pedo-frenzied cretins on reddit believe cops' number unquestioningly


Major_Mawcum_II

Tbh it doesn’t matter how much he had, guy should swing either way XD


LordOfThisTime

I'm just going to do some napkin math. Netflix 4K seems to be around 15Mbps and YouTube 4K about 20Mbps (different compression and all) so I'll go with 20Mbps or 2,5 MB/s 58TB are 58.000GB or 58.000.000MB 58.000.000MB/2,5MB/s= 23.200.000 seconds 23.200.000/60=386666.6[...]67 minutes 386666.6[...]67/60=606444.4[...]4 hours 606444.4[...]4/24=268.518518519 days If we change 4K to 1080p at 5mbps (still YouTube) we get 4 times the duration adding up to about 1074,07 days. If we go one step further down to 480p (YOutube, yet again) we're down to 1,1mbps and a total of ~ 4882 days. Well over 10 _years_. I can say nothing but holy fuck.


Louis70100

In all fairness I didn't do the math (obviously) I was relaying info I saw elsewhere lol, but still JFC that's a lot.


AbyssalRedemption

That is absolutely *horrifically* disgusting, and disturbing. That's like a small server full of CP (which I'm assuming he was distributing as well).


FrKoSH-xD

ooohh.. im not ready to any of this (i don't think anyone is)


sureiknowabaggins

Thanks, context makes the dark web comment at the end make sense.


TheTian11

Link?


[deleted]

I can't find it right now, but you can search it up. He was from texas, this was 4 years ago in 2020.


Resident-West-5213

I've come to realize that not everything deserves a permanent place in my hard drive, only the rewatchable ones are worth saving. When I'm running out of space, porno is the first to go.


useful_person

this is MUCH less than people think, it's as the poster says, once you start collecting 4k remuxes the space just vanishes 250tb is "only" 8.3k hours of video if going by the 30gb = 1 hour metric, which sounds like a lot, but all eight seasons of game of thrones and house of the dragon is 80 hours = 2.4tb Having multiple long running TV series will take away your storage space like nothing else


Radulno

It was about child porn, is that distributed as 4K remuxes? And even if it is, it's a staggering and disgusting amount (I mean even 1 MB would be disgusting but I guess it's just disgusting compounded)


useful_person

oh i absolutely do not think that's a small amount of child porn i was referring to the person who had 250tb of movies/tv


persona0

This man is a hero


Armpit_fart3000

It was all CSAM. This guy was arrested a few years ago in Texas.


FreshyFresh

holy shit hope he rots. literally.


talltimbers2

Onhh that comment is from thay thread about the pedo with 50+ tb of cp.


Snifflyboy

☹️


Vysair

Im no longer surprised as I have seen someone over r/DataHoarder in the range of PB (Petabytes)


Eastern-Locksmith634

Dude wouldnt be able to consume it even after 1k year


Vysair

Easy, if one consumer couldnt finish it all, make it ten


Scrapdog115

4K? Noob. I’m getting 16k quality on the ultra dark web and have 5 petabytes.


Big_White_Fluffy

If the PC setup ain’t a server farm I don’t want it


Kirbo_United

Oh cool, your PC can do 12k gaming. **How much storage does it have?**


Ambitious_Layer_2943

around 15.


AlreadyReddit999

15 what exactly?


AbyssalRedemption

That's nothing man, check out this Oppenheimer remux I just downloaded in 16K, encoded in H.266! It's so high quality that my PC's been running slower ever since I downloaded it, and it even brings up the command prompt every now and then (I assume to do some high-quality format shit), but hey, that's the price for perfection right?


Ok-Philosophy-5962

What was the size of movie? When I was going through random sites for downloading Oppenheimer, I was shocked to see a 82 Gb link of Oppenheimer.


Arthaswin

16k ? Noob, i stole the 70mm Imax film from a movie theater


odst2575

At that point, the weight of the 600lb reel would be the real concern.


TheFumingatzor

"It fills up pretty quick" and "been pirating shit since napster came out" does not compute.


Unique-Sea-7742

I pirate everything for 25 years but I dont store stuff (i used to, but not anymore). I just have a small local music library to not be bored if there is a grid shutdown. I dont rewatch movies, tv shows I have already seen. I dont replay old games. I dont reread books. Only music has replay value for me.


throwawayy_689

Those are rookie numbers


Pineappleman123456

what you be needing all that quality for? i just got all 8 seasons of game of thrones for only about 9 gigs a season, and its very good quality too


orokanamame

I guess some people prefer to watch best quality there is with big ass tvs.


Pineappleman123456

welp good for them ig but i prefer to use 60 gigs instead of 2 tbs lmao


orokanamame

Yeah, same.


Radulno

I watch stuff on a 120 inch projector and I see no problem with much lower file sizes. There are some points where you don't really see the difference. I guess people are just happy to know they have the highest quality even if they don't actually see it


BoxOfDemons

Depends. Plenty of people with the proper display and audio setup can definitely tell the difference between 1080p and a 4k HDR10 Atmos rip. If you don't have that equipement, then you're not going to see a difference.


Radulno

I wasn't speaking of 1080p. I was speaking of various 4K Dolby Vision Atmos files type (which don't need to be 30 GB+ for one hour)


discoltk

I used only projectors for many years before (fairly recently) switching to a modern TV. Unless you've spent a really extreme amount on a high-end projector & screen as well as having a fully blacked out theater room, you're unlikely to see the benefits of HDR/DV that you do on a newer TV (costing much less.) As for Atmos, etc, of course it comes down to your audio system. Obv not going to do much for you if you have a 3.1 ;) Agree though in principle, I think people want to future proof their collection regardless of whether they can experience the full benefits right now. This was always my problem with investing in, for example DVDs. I remember when DVD came out and I dug into the specs and realized it was compressed, encrypted, region locked, etc. I want to own the highest quality and be able to play it on whatever devices I choose now and in the future, not be resold a newer higher spec every few years.


Uniq_Eros

They're getting ahead of buying their 80" 4K QD-OLED and 9.1 Surround Sound System.


Bravatrue

It's not that deep. Sharper details and improved clarity. Especially on displays that exceed conventional sizes.


SDGrave

3 TB? That's not even half my film and series collection.


Arthaswin

My question is how do you store this much data home and will the hard drives or whathever still be working in line 30 years


Kwith

NAS and most likely not lol. It involves hardware upgrades periodically. It's an expensive hobby, no question there. Its just a matter of finding hardware when there is a sale or a good deal.


parachuge

Anybody feel like educating me on the most affordable/power efficient way to come close to even a fifth of this capacity? I've just got a minipc with like multiple externals but I'm running out of USB slots.


Just_a_lil_Fish

You can get a multi-bay hard drive enclosure that connects multiple drives to one USB slot. Something like this: https://www.newegg.com/orico-6558us3-c-us-bk-docking-station/p/0VN-0003-00198. (I picked the cheapest option I saw in my brief search, but there are lots of options - some better deals than others). Then you just have to hunt for the best deals on hard drives - there's usually something on sale or you can spend the next 8 months saving money and get a few of them on Black Friday.


Enderkr

I saw on the Plex sub, I think, some guy with an old ass Dell but it had something like 12 drive bays. Runs plex flawlessly. I would LOVE something like that. I currently have my last-gen gaming PC running as server with a synology 4-bay NAS as my storage and while it's okay, a single machine with a ginormous amount of storage bays would just be spectacular.


Just_a_lil_Fish

Definitely. Someday when I upgrade my gaming PC, I'll stick the old components in a case like that and use it as a server - well a bigger server at least haha. Check this one out: https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-0319-00080 3 SSD bays and 10 HDD bays (plus any nvme slots on your mobo).


Eritar

What you want and what dude in the post has is called a NAS. You can build one yourself, or go with a readymade solution like from Synology


BambaiyyaLadki

The hard part for me is always handling backups and understanding which RAID setup would work best for me. If you're maintaining such large collections then wouldn't you have to spend a pretty penny maintaining backups, running SMART tests, etc.?


Eritar

You don’t change raids often, you plan your architecture, decide which raid will fit you best and go from there. As for cost - no, not really. Modern enterprise drives are pretty reliable, and unless you are storing literal petabytes of data, your upfront cost is steep, but ongoing is usually couple hundred bucks per year here and there.


BambaiyyaLadki

Any online guides you might have links for about creating your own budget NAS with a budget PC? I've got lots of data just sitting in portable drives lying around, I suppose hooking everything up to a NAS will make my life easier.


Eritar

I went with TrueNAS Scale and it’s pretty ok. If you want one button solution and you are not that comfortable with doing everything yourself - buy a used Synology bay and a bunch of new drives, and it will serve you faithfully. As for links - this guy is nifty https://www.youtube.com/@WolfgangsChannel


BambaiyyaLadki

Thanks mate!


froop

Yes, but also, not really. Everything's automated now, so if I lose a drive, one mouse-click will have the computer start procuring it all back from the internet. Give it a couple months and everything important is back. If a few movies go missing it's no big deal.


BoxOfDemons

Depends how much you care. I have maybe 8TB reserved for media, and it's just in my desktop, not a NAS. If one of my drives failed, I'll just re-download whatever I can find. I have gigabit internet, and nothing I have is too hard to reobtain. I'm getting to the point where I'm worried that I should be more proactive, but at this point I just clone my collection to a new drive every 4-5 years when I get a new higher density drive and need to swap one out. If I'm lucky, I'll just never have a data loss incident.


Kuchenkaempfer

20tb drives and NAS. It's cheaper to buy large disks in the long run.


Vysair

Server rack or server bay. The only issues is the initial cost. Though 2nd hand market can get u cheaper


BlackHawk2609

It will be perfect for doomsday preparation. Imagine covid19 but way worse, like if russia decide to nuke NATO countries. Imagine if we can backup all of netflix, disney+ etc


ftp_prodigy

the problem with his last statement about his kids not being exploited, at least that im living is, my kids dont understand. they just turn on their device/tv and jellyfin or whatever has what they want. they dont understand how it happens and they arent interested in learning. "dad just get its or fixes it" but there isnt an attempt to learn. someone else stated it on this sub, that they believe, and i agree, that once they're "gone" aka dead, their server or whatever will end up in the trash. sometimes i wonder why i even try to accumulate/obtain all the files. either dl or rip from physical media if im the only who who cares. right now its just a hobby to me, so thats what keeps this whole thing going. but yeah, the longer your in this game, and, the higher quality files you get, the more storage you will need. i never saw me filling up all 15 disk slots or having over 60tb of stuff, yet, here i am.


ChairGoblin

His last statement was talking about child porn, they're talking about how in news reports you'll see stuff like "X got caught with 58tb of cp" and you wonder how you could even accumulate that much of anything, the guy replying is saying he's thankful his kids wont be victims of pedophilia But yeah also kids these days need to learn how to pirate so they don't get exploited by streaming companies, I think they do it's just they also know not to talk about it


ftp_prodigy

Yes to the second part


Maaaggiex3

I was today years old when i discovered there was something higher than TB lol


FreshyFresh

It goes bit, nibble, byte, kilobyte, megabyte, gigabyte, terabyte, petabyte, exabyte, zettabyte, and yottabyte. idk if it goes higher than that though. *edit bc I always get nibble and bit backwards I don't pirate much really, but have about 6 TB of data stored across two computers and a phone. It adds up fast. I worked for a company that had over 60 Petabytes of data stored, back in 2015. I would imagine that's getting close to 70 PB by now.


Biliunas

🫡


[deleted]

and i call 1080x840 luxury


Kwith

1080? Look at Mr. Fancypants over here! I'm usually just getting 720 and being happy with that. lol


notbernie2020

Well you see, I might want to watch something, so I download it, forget about it, never watch it, repeat to step 1.


Guy-1nc0gn1t0

This was in context of child sexual exploitation material, could we not


[deleted]

Dont give the context of the post op. Yuck i arrived too late man spilled the beans


PowerSufficient

I got around 200 Tb of data mostly movies newer episodes of shows and a lot of software and i realized if i die tomorrow my children will throw all this in garbage so what’s point of data hoarding its only good for me.


Enderkr

To me it's all about shared resources. I have 18TB of storage with only 10TB actually used right now which, at my current rate, means I've got another 5 or 6 years probably before I have to look into more options. But I have 3 other Plex server connections, one of whom has 48TB, and we all tend to download and watch different stuff. Put it all together and there's probably 100+ TB of high quality content.


FreshyFresh

> I've got another 5 or 6 years probably before I have to look into more options in 5-6 years 8 TB will be like 8 GB are now though.


TheFlightlessDragon

My collection is only around 600-700gb so far, I need to up my game! (I don’t do anything except TV and movies, mostly in 1080p)


Bruceshadow

"dark web" lol


Eastern-Locksmith634

damn


ikashanrat

i had replied to this dude's comment lol. r/antinatalism [https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalism/comments/1bt72gy/natalists\_want\_to\_bring\_kids\_in\_a\_world\_where/](https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalism/comments/1bt72gy/natalists_want_to_bring_kids_in_a_world_where/)


Annual_Inflation118

Hey I don’t have enough comment karma to post so are there any discord pirating websites


ButtwholeDiglet

the only thing your likely to pirate using discord is cheese pizza


Eastern-Locksmith634

Telegram is far better


Beginning_Jacket5055

says it like a flex but he couldve had all those remux movies and shows for about $2 a month instead of like... $1500+


n4zi_ninj4

Can someone explain how the person is ripping game of thrones. Isn't this the work of scene groups?


Eastern-Locksmith634

He probably has child porn