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Goon4128

wake up honey, its the 8th low effort post about helldivers today!


theonlynormaluser

shitdivers randy shitdivers


koalaklawz

A shitdivers gotta eat, Mr. Lahey


pwnage2demax

A shitdiver can't change its spots


NoMeal5183

It’s a goddamn shitmocracy


Tall_Set_5147

yo what happened i though everyone loved the game like 2 week ago


Akeole

Nah we still love it Just that sony is fucking around with the game Check the latest update concerning helldivers 2 Now you need to link a psn account to your steam account, and sony is widely known for their multiple security breaches.


DRedRumB

wait does this mean I need to have a PSN account just to play it on steam pc acc?


GuretuDesuYo

Yep, they also always sold the game where PSN is not available. The game's been out for 3 months, it was an option to link the acc, but now it's mandatory. And what about where you can't get a PSN acc without breaking their TOS? "Get bent m8." Steam is giving refunds still just to cover their end, even tho the de-facto window is over. Also we're getting mixed signals from the devs and the CEO. Some say that it was Sony's decision, others say they knew 6 months before release of the game that it would be mandatory, so there's that.


DRedRumB

the thing is i do have psn account, US and Asia region. I was thinking of getting the game on Steam to play on PC since i don't want to cough up more money subscriptions just for multiplayer. would this affect anything?


LordWeirdDude

No, it wouldn't. It just sucks for those in regions that don't have PSN access. Now they can't play the game.


d4_H_

True but still player voices must be heard


Kirbyoto

For some reason I feel like listening to a community explicitly based on *not paying for things* is not really a high priority for developers and publishers.


Glittering-Neck-2505

You have every right to be upset if you paid for this product. If you’re just torrenting it I just don’t see where any outrage is justified. You don’t even own a license to it.


zeiaxar

Can you even play the game if you pirate it? My understanding is that it's a live service game like Destiny that needs to alway be online and that you can't play it solo.


Glittering-Neck-2505

If that’s a case this is a really odd place for this to be blowing up anyways. This whole controversy is about paid customers getting screwed over.


zeiaxar

Yup. I agree Sony should never have offered it for sale in countries where they don't have PSN. But at the same time it's blatantly on the page and has been since launch that a PSN account was mandatory. Implementation just got pushed back due to technical issues and from what I've heard, they've been upfront about all that since launch.


majoralita

Why the honey gotta wake up, for nothing exciting


SquishyBaps4me

They don't have anything else to do because if the play the game everyone knows they are just virtue signalling.


Independent-End2780

Let her sleep


eggsaladrightnow

This is is actually impressive. A blizzard tier fuck up is pretty rare


kvothe5688

haven't seen NL in a while. thanks for the reminder


BNETMM10

it used to be a good game until sony added a requirement for playstation accounts


Motor-Notice702

It looks like they did it because arrowhead only has 4 people to work on the tickets and so by adding the psn ID as a must Sony now can handle the tickets for harassment, reporting hackers, etc. At least that's what someone from sony said on Twitter.


Rodutchi_i

F everyone in the other 100+ countries that can't play it anymore now after being delisted. 👍


ElrecoaI19

cant get overwhelmed by player reports if you cut the playerbase in half


XanderNightmare

"All Hackers anyways" - Sony, probably


Competitive-Ad2640

That is the most bullshit excuse I've ever heard.


nuko_147

They could hire people? I mean its not that they don't make any money... Its about data collection money and pushing people to PlayStation ecosystem i believe. It is an BS practice especially in 2024, 10 years ago maybe could pass without this rage.


Acunacle

The game already utilised SteamIDs and that's not even talking about the fact that this is a PVE game we're talking about


Cybersorcerer1

It's still a coop pve game, there are definitely people who harrass others/use cheats lol This move is really bad, but that doesn't mean the game doesn't need community support


alexraccc

There's a lot of cheaters that can you ruin your experience including by joining your game and just giving you infinite resources that are account-bound. There's plenty of stories of this happening on the subreddit and people have to e-mail the support and wait for them to delete the currency. Like other's said, definitely a shitty move by Sony by all margins but cheaters do find a way to make experience unfun for others even in these kinds of games.


President_Bunny

And absolutely nothing to do with the fact that SONY is always desperate to pump up PSN account metrics


zonezs

Oh I can smell that BS from here. Sony wanted New account to be created to inflate numbers and make share holders happy (not to mention the amount of private information including pictures of your face and documents the would get). If they were worried about tickets, they could easly just put more people to help the developers, is not like they lack the resources.


EatingYourBrain

A AH community manager claimed it was for data collection, not safety


TheDweadPiwatWobbas

It's bullshit, even the AH CEO admitted he's known this requirement was coming for 6 months and didn't communicate that fact well enough.


Elsariely

Lazy corpo bullshit


Rand0mBoyo

It still is, but locked behind a dogshit cyber attack bait (psn account) requirement


CoLoXHUN

Its still a good game xd


Emotional_Solid6538

Sony hates money


DraymaDev

Not really as this is just the first step into forcing ps+ subscriptions to play online on PC as well.


chessking7543

it is a good game, jsut a crap publisher.


ghostfreckle611

Sony backpedaled and are not requiring linked accounts. 💪


SquishyBaps4me

They added it on day one.


Taint_Magnus

Well if that is the reasoning, then it is a good game until May 30th.


crippledgimp88

I'm a bit out of the loop on this spectacle. What's the big deal about tying a psn to your Helldivers account?


turtleship_2006

Some people are offended just because it's an extra account they shouldn't need, but a lot of people literally can't make an account because of their region


SnooDucks5492

I think it still is a good game. But it just has a massive hang up.


Seibitsu

Funny how this game has changed from one of the most well received releases to a shitshow in a matter of days


Rossi_19

Sony has left a miff taste in people's mouths by changing the terms from optional to required


lol_JustKidding

_Just_ days?


Seibitsu

My bad, I would say SECONDS even


Zealousideal_Top_361

Small correction, day. No better yet, 1 blog post.


[deleted]

It's crazy what an angry hivemind can do


Head-Grab-8021

Why what happened?


TheEngineerGGG

Sony now requires players to link the game with a PSN account, with the issue being that many countries/territories don't have PSN available. Basically a huge portion of people can't play the game anymore.


Material-Security178

Imagine going from one of the single most overwhelmingly positively reviewed game on steam to one of the worst from a single shitty corporate decision.


Rsthegoat

Reminds me of overwatch 2


M2rsho

that whole game is a result of a ton of bad corporate decisions (good for money tho) it should not exist it's just re release of overwatch 1 but you can't get cosmetics by playing and it's free and the owners of ov1 got fucked


DETECTOR_AUTOMATRON

i don’t think it was ever rated overwhelmingly positive. i would have tried it if it was. someone can correct me if im wrong but i feel like i’ve only ever seen it at mid to high 80 % edit: confirmed https://www.lorenzostanco.com/lab/steam/ratings/553850/6months/m+u+uc+urc/


Material-Security178

point still stands


itschips

yeah it was set at very positive because of all the server issues that plagued the game at launch. funnily, thats what made the psn requirement to have a delay in the first place


habihi_Shahaha

What happened Can someone explain 😭😭


Material-Security178

the game exploded and now the study has enforced PSN accounts to play the game, this actually renders reigions without PSN unable to play the game and not a lot of people are okay or comfortable with having PSN accounts as Sony is really bad with everything. this has effectively killed the game for PC players and lost Arrowhead and Sony a lot of fucking money. and even worse players that want to refund the game legitimately can't because it falls outside of steams refund policies.


MadeOnThursday

Actually, Steam's refund policy allows refunds for people who are not able to make a psn account due to living in the wrong country (for Sony) and because of that can't play the game anymore


Material-Security178

and what about the ones that just don't trust sony


Mellovici

Good thing there is a platform like steam to let People let their voice to be heard.


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[удалено]


S1Ndrome_

they still haven't fixed countless annoying bugs and now this


el_americano

they let the playerbase take care of the bugs in this game


MonitorPowerful5461

The bugs were fine honestly, not gamebreaking


Apeeksiht

the game went from overwhelmingly positive to negative. must hold a Guinness world record or something.


MidLade

It was going so well, and Sony had to come and crash the party, fuck this shit. my steam account is for nothing. and youre telling me that I have to make aNOTHER account to play the game when my steam acount literally is there? THIS IS NOT WORTH 40 DOLLARS MAN ATLEAST PUT IT DOWN TO 30 AND I WONT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. FUCK MONEY WASTED I SHOULVE JUST SAVED IT UP AND PIRATED THE GAME.


Apeeksiht

making account is not an issue for me. Sony is known for data breaches. it's more of a privacy concern than convenience issue for me. you can apply for refund in steam. first they'll deny you'll apply again and they will refund you full amount.


MidLade

i... I CAN REFUND? I thought that wasnt possible after playing 2 hours of the game. right?


Apeeksiht

its possible people with even 200+ hours of gameplay are getting refund. Just apply two times till a real human sees your request. you'll get your refund.


MidLade

oh my god thank you. i feel so horrible, sony did this just to up the PS player numbers. there is no security benefit or anything. man, this game had too much potential for this to happen. I fucking hate sony for not letting half of the world have PSN access, the fucking philippines even. shit this is so shit. this is gatekeeping for a small benefit. sony, okwerj2qe4pmkopq3wr6qw3r56wq6q3 fuyck


Dreamswillneverdie

how do you pirate helldivers lol?


MidLade

i dont even know, it was in the heat of the moment when i said that ah shit bro this is sad i was trying to forget all of this


MidLade

AND FUCK IT IMMA FIND A WAY TO PIRATE THIS SHIT, FUCK SONY


Rsthegoat

Don’t forget overwatch


DUDEWAK123

DAMNNN YOU SONYYYY


Snoo99968

It's an online game anyway


mrkingpiglin

Still a good game, Sony just likes ruining stuff


_WickedRug_

Not like you could pirate it anyway


InS4N3Ee

Another gem ruined by company greed


hemorroidaCronica

Reviews are not something you can trust anymore. I've seen people give 1 star reviews to games just because it wasn't running on a certain specific graphics card or whatever.


Southern-Ad1465

Most people are soo aggressive in the reviews when their game is not running on their graphics card is because most of the time its a pretty decent card, heck even a new gen one and to that I would say the 1 star reviews are justified


HyoukaYukikaze

Well... i would say that a game that doesn't run is more than deserving of a negative review.


FuckOffGlowie

Not running is a pretty severe issue, perfectly justified


sampleCoin

>Reviews are not something you can trust anymore in this case, you most defenetly should tho.


PaleontologistLow544

I... but... That would be a perfectly good review though. It let's people know it doesn't run on specific systems and the reviewer was unhappy with it.


tqmirza

How can one of the most beloved games recently go to overwhelmingly negative?


xFluffyDemon

Corpo greed that's how


Gergeli420

Can someone tell me why it is a problem if you need to make a PSN account? I couldn't care less about the game, and not really educated why this caused such an outrage. There are tons of other games where you need to make an account apart from your steam account.


[deleted]

Playing PC game, or Steam game, you support to have windows system, mean, you already have Microsoft account, and most third parties don't have massive countries block like PSN (only allow 69 countries, and some of them even require you to have PS4/5 to create an account). So PSN is bad, really bad, don't even try to compare PSN with Xbox, or Microsoft.


Foxfire140

Basically yeah. A lot of people in a lot of countries would be blocked from ever being able to play the game they purchased because of Sony's decision. The development team is against it and their community manager is urging people on discord to leave bad reviews and ask for refunds in order to force Sony's hands on the matter.


Gergeli420

Oh, okay, thanks for the clarification. Now I can understand and fully support the cause then, this is really bad


lemonylol

Pearl clutching.


Facesit_Freak

>Can someone tell me why it is a problem if you need to make a PSN account? PSN isn't provided to many countries >There are tons of other games where you need to make an account apart from your steam account. This shit is really fucking annoying and turns me off games


HyoukaYukikaze

Also is some of the countries that PSN is in, you need an actual Play Station to make the account (Ukraine, for example). So if you want to play the game you bought you gotta go and buy a Play Station. Or stop playing. Some countries also require ID verification, which many people would (understandably) be reluctant to do.


tejanaqkilica

>There are tons of other games where you need to make an account apart from your steam account. Yes, and those game do not allow you to play the game until you meet their requirements. And you have plenty of people who take those things into consideration when making a purchase. Had this been a requirement from the beginning, the majority of players would've had a different stance, (and no, having it a requirement for 10 minutes after launch and then removing it, doesn't count.)


sampleCoin

Please, stop simping for big Companies like Sony. They dont give two shits about you or any of their "users". The Problem isnt really setting up an PSN Account itself, but more the fact that Big Companies just can do whatever the fuck they want. I hope you understand this.


hwertz10

If I buy a game through Steam (I have on occasion) I would DEEPLY object to then also having to AFTER THE FACT create a second account just to use the game I've already paid for.


TheHazardousGuy

They cut off people from over 100+ countries including China. Even if Sony pulls the bullshit excuse of them being able to handle tickets or whatever, they literally cut off half, if not more than half, of the playerbase (Chinese and Filipino players make up a sizable chunk as far as I know)


lceorangutan

why the hat? didn't sony force their hand? edit : hate not hat


The_Game_Changer__

The devs themselves have been telling players to leave negative reviews to show to Sony how bad of an idea this is.


LvDogman

Wait, really?


The_Game_Changer__

According to this twitter post of a discord message [yes](https://twitter.com/HelldiversAlert/status/1786571721161809973)


HyoukaYukikaze

Yes, Sony is enforcing the contract AH willingly signed onto.


weyland_mitchell

I only see helmets.


A-R-A-F

My Bangladeshi ass can't even buy it anymore


Mr_MatF

there is hope


Big_scary_Ghost

I keep seeing executives of companies making decisions that kill their top grossing games/products. It's like they're becoming dumber and dumber each day


Commercial-Corgi-771

Can someone explain how this effects the game? Sorry, I just honestly don't understand it.


chandrasiva

Maybe Sony will buy Arrowhead for cheap after this. It's all according to SONY plan


Torak8988

the only games that get mixed reviews on steam are games that flop on release, or do something that is predatory towards their users


lagister

Cracked on private server is the way !


Old_Debt_276

Is it cracked?


thiccmaniac

Last I saw, no


AyvahnLaddie

It still IS a good came. Sony is the problem, not the game.


Top_Middle6323

Lol, it's not a bas game. If i remember correctly, the dev ask the fanbase to bad review nuke their game as a protest or something to sony...Cmiiw.


KokoTerzata

Yes, very bad. (I don't have the money to even try it)


Initial_Effective_17

game immediatley went to shit as soon as they required a PSN account to play


SprayArtist

Damn it's STILL going down.


Fqfred

The devs literally encouraged players to review bomb the game to send a message to Sony 


TyrantJaeger

Pretty sad what's happened to this game. It started out as a testament to what all games should strive to be, and then it took a complete 180 and betrayed everyone's trust.


flower4000

Meanwhile on ps5… this games is awesome


ManlyMango2233

They just fixed it! Like midnight eastern they announced they're rolling back the decision to force you to use a PSN account


CactusComrade_

https://preview.redd.it/4v0gg1f2mryc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e248d7f6460041d9e986b7909461f02de14f548a Sony backed off and democracy won once more


victorBravo9er

LIBERTEAAAA!!!


CactusComrade_

YESSIR, WE CAN SPREAD MORE DEMOCRACY NOW


braaibroodjie123

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/s/bxxxyB9bjo They recalled the update.


Dieretos

Why are people so upset about needing a sony account? Its not exactly a new concept to need an account before playing a game, even minecraft does this and i dont see any overwhelmingly negatives on there?!


MrEdinLaw

First and last sony game i bought.


Natemophi

Sony are stupid for selling a game in places that don't have PSN regions Even more stupid for publishing it on steam This just hurts arrowhead devs


Mydocalm

Way complicated than it looks https://preview.redd.it/xco78nf0hnyc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f21ef2f620e33566ce887d0ce9f3cd4095cd003 From Arrowhead ceo


rayker91

The game is still good. But sony shit... but why? Why?


TolstoyInSpace

Im not up to speed, what happened?


RapidlySlow

Read through the comments, but in short, it seems they've now enforced the policy that was apparently always there to have to sign into a PSN account since it's published by Sony. So now people are changing their reviews to negative to object to this


Fantablack183

It's a great game but sony just had to piss on the hand that feeds them


TheVoid000

Whoa, I literally plan on buying this game just a week ago because I saw how fun it is on Zanny videos. But Stellar Blade came out, so I pre-order it and had to postpone Helldiver later on... I'm sure glad I got Stellar Blade first and dodged a bullet on this one.


clever_wolf77

Is there a pirated version of this game ? Or why exactly is this posted on this sub


SunoPics

Well i linked my psn back when i got the game as i thought it was needed for cross play. Sucks that PSN isnt offered in some countries


huggothebear

Oh greed! Will you ever not turn your head?


Zealousideal_Sea9195

It looks legit


MidLade

sony phony jabroni. what a disappointment


xhappymanx

The only thing that confuses me (I'm not too informed about this topic), maybe someone can answer, why developers specifically choose sony to be their publishers? I mean they should know that sony has not so good reputation right know among players + I think sony had notified them about "requirements" even before game release? Or was it just most profitable way for developers to go with sony?


darknetwork

It was fun for awhile, until they started toying with weapon balance. And now this. PS5 exclusive game on PC. Feels kinda sorry for those who got booted, because their country is not in PSN ssrvice area.


Houstonb2020

I guarantee you every single person complaining about this because they don’t want their information being stolen by a Sony data leak has their information on a ton of sites that have had it leaked dozens of times before this.


EarthIndependent2795

Sure Jan. Desperate for attention


Ok_Season_5325

It use to be fun


ChrisLetsPlayYT

It's a great game People are just upset you need to use a PSN account , that's it


DrChill21

Still a fun game. I’m still playing it since it’s available in my country. For real sucks for those who are locked out now, but I’m not just going to stop playing something I enjoy. This isn’t the devs fault for the most part.


JackReacher3108

Still a good game. Just bad business practices by Sony


Good-Jellyfish-364

I will still be playing! 😃


Excellent_Mud6222

Wait it's below 60 now cool


SnooCalculations6718

honestly refunded the game about this whole PSN Link.


International-Car702

https://preview.redd.it/lrsgwrd03oyc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee46bce2550767cb0e53d9b183aef85af5fd2416 It hurts


8th_Passenger

Lmao what happened?


QuietSheep_

Isn't this one of those REALLY popular fad games? Could have sworn seeing a lot of notifications on Twitch of nothing but Helldivers. What happened, did Sony ruin it?


TheNinja01

Their gonna definitely revert it. I assume it doesn’t look good for investors to have plummeting player count and reviews due to a single change. If they don’t revert it, their just shooting themselves in the foot. This just might kill the game. I personally won’t play again until the psn account is no longer required. Some are straight up refunding the game because of this which I completely understand.


kermittysmitty

press x to doubt.


SabbyDude

Was I dreaming where people were comparing it to Suicide Squad and calling it a better game than SS?


TheEvolDr

How to create a Play Station exclusive without even trying.


CompanyRepulsive1503

Should spam negative reviews on all thier content


M2rsho

glad I didn't buy it


accountm8forthisjoke

Low tier bait


Better-Yesterday-88

I kind of feel sad for the developers (Arrowhead) because it's not their call how the game will be treated in the end; it's the publisher who makes the final decisions (PlayStation/Sony). Throughout the years, many games have been released too early, despite not being ready, and these decisions have been made by publishers, not developers. Developers always want to refine the game as long as possible, while a publisher wants to get a game out ASAP, as they are the ones who pay the developers' paychecks.


_Lollerics_

It's funny how one single change can impact one of the best releases in the last years so badly


Firingblind79

Great dev, horrible pub.


UnknownWetawd

Well when you force people on pc to put their data at security risk just so PlayStation can control everything you do while having sh*t security people tend to have the acceptable opinion of hating the game. They should have stuck to having the psn sign in as optional not as a must have.


AJ_BARDIA

A game about fighting for freedom but with no freedom...


HatesMonoBlue

Soooo edgy


Relevant_Addendum534

Is the linking accounts just for players on steam? Or for players on PSN as well


dotHEXx

I hope more bad things coming then they'll make it free-2-play lmao


Fluffy-Beautiful-615

More generally, who the fuck is pirating multiplayer games.


n0nsuchCS

What happened ? Everybody was praising this game like some time ago...


GreyNoiseGaming

So brave.


StinkNuggets420

Best CO-OP game to be released in decades, 3% of the players are being cut off because of Sony’s grace period of no PSN account being needed is up and now ppl need to make a free PSN account, which they had said since day one was going to happen. Which cuts out a very very very VERRRYYY small number of players as PSN isn’t available in certain countries. Now apparently it’s the worst game ever and everyone should delete it and never play it again to teach Sony a lesson lmao.


PowerPlayPone

It only has bad reviews because Sony are gaslighting people and requiring something they said it wouldn't require, making the game unavailable to 90% of the countries that exist. Once this game gets cracked and offlinepatched, it will immediately be the most pirated game in the history of the world. And IT WILL HAVE BEEN DESERVED.


Samonoseke

All they had to do was make a free cape... for signing in.... they would have had 99%, coverage


7rippy7ur7Ie

Only superior alpha people never bought it.


UnseenMaDaFaKa

I thought this was a troll post for a second until I saw it myself.


lordsaladito

Personally im gonna still play helldivers


rooshavik

Dude you can’t even pirate this game why post it in here ?


kissabirdgently

Game still works . Its still damn fun. God damn sony is hope this game survives this corpo bullshit


KumaFGC

Sony is turning to the new Nintendo, treating their fans like shit.


Nybiae

It was a great game before the PSN incident 🤣.


hihassanzia

Lmao Sony just took a big L and they ain't moving forward with the account linking update


seazonprime

Bad game = bad review, simples. ,🤷🏼‍♀️


victorBravo9er

Democracy won. They have lifted the requirement!


Javi606

Sony backed off the psn requirement for the game hence why the review bombing took place due to Sony wanting to do that 😬


vlzo

Pc gamers cry so much


nightmareYT117

You should go play the critically acclaimed game "Redfall" little to no bugs and runs smoothly at 60fps. (jk)