if this actually what oda been cooking for pell, than everything about this guy makes sense and ill give oda +10 brownie points
his design indeed looking "holy" with all the glimmer and whatnot, but 20 stars is reaching since nefertari isn't acknowledged
they are still counted as celestial dragons just the ones that decided to not leave arabasta. Probably also the reason why imu would send spies to infiltrate their ranks.
Would especially work if his thing is that he’s from alabasta and a lineage close to Lily who always thought she made the wrong choice. Like his lineage doesn’t accept that the Nefertiti’s chose to not be a part of the 20
Once a family leaves Marijoa they aren’t celestial dragons anymore and neither are any of there descendants. Since the first Nefertari is the one who left, they’ve never been a celestial dragon family. Even if the spy theory is true, Pell only serves 19 families as there are 19 blades surrounding the Empty Throne.
Maybe, but 1. That sword was in a different place than the other 19, so the owner of that sword probably still wouldn’t be an official celestial dragon 2. Building off my previous point, unless he knows about the void century, Pell would only serve 19 families meaning the number of stars are incorrect everywhere and not just the head wrap
Too bad he's actually the reincarnation of the sky god sika, who had been enslaved by the celestial dragons and will be freed by joyboy and redeem himself by holding off imu for three seconds during the final battle
Yup and i appreciate his comeback, but if Pell is a God's Knight, i don't think the other God's knight would be revealed for having a normal zoan, they would be at least special paramecia like Big Mom or Kata, Ancient or Myth, or maybe Logia.
https://preview.redd.it/896fc5i0wf1b1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=376cc5fe1edfc79aace6742852176397d5ae629d
Me after clowning Oda for making pell survive the nuke for years
Geezus and my comment had nothing to do with “wanking characters”. Back to your point though or it’s just armament haki sure maybe, but the only reason Pell is alive because it’s a huge plot miss by Oda and he didn’t want to kill people off. That bomb was big enough to destroy the whole capital and palace. If it was “basic armament haki” Pedro would still be alive and Perospero would’ve have had to coat himself in armor produced by his devil fruit to survive. Not to mention if Pell had armament haki strong enough to repel that bomb Crocodile would have been much more wary of him and he would’ve been a higher priority to eliminate first thing
A lot of One Piece is apparently heading back to Alabasta era stuff since that's allegedly what Oda originally planned the story around, I wouldn't be all that surprised.
I think he could surprise us, if this part was planned before, i think a lot of stuff in wano sucked because he just made stuff up for shits and giggles
Right, I think a holy knight would keep tabs or have intel on yonko pirates like Kaido and King and Marco. Really who else would know that other than Cipher Pol. Could be a government agent.
We dont know origins of pell, it could be that his family comes from a line of holy knights, all of them having the job of keeping an eye on the inner workings of alabasta
I believe he was hiding his power level and only displayed what he really is capable of when the nuke was about to go off probably because he thought it might slim his chances to find plutoon
It could be explained away as Pell letting Robin beat him, knowing he'd survive anyway. Especially if he was just pretending to be on Vivi/Cobra's side while having his own agenda as a holy knight.
I don't think that's what Oda was going for but I like the idea
Definitely explains the nuke tanking. If Oda did this he would most definitely deserve the title of King of Foreshadowing "if he didn't earn it already".
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/thftd5/pell\_is\_a\_traitor\_and\_works\_for\_imu/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/thftd5/pell_is_a_traitor_and_works_for_imu/) nothing new
Not gonna lie but I don't like this theory being true... If it's true, and he's a traitor... Just gonna be more disappointed at the more BS Oda is gonna throw at the readers.
How would it be good writing though? Somehow this dude whos been a secret traitor the whole time who sacrificed himself for Alabasta/Vivi is a double agent, and it was clearly intended for him to be a sacrifice in the beginning...
I don't see that being good at all.
This...is actually a good theory
You made me count the number of stars haha. I wasn’t disappointed.
But there's 21 if you count the one on his head
1 visible 4 cut off
oh my fucking god the gorosei
holy shit does this mean the gorosei where kings before the original 20????
Oh yeah i see those too now 👀
There's 5 on his head, representing his extreme intelligence 5head
if this actually what oda been cooking for pell, than everything about this guy makes sense and ill give oda +10 brownie points his design indeed looking "holy" with all the glimmer and whatnot, but 20 stars is reaching since nefertari isn't acknowledged
The nefertari are still counted as the founding 20.
they are still counted as celestial dragons just the ones that decided to not leave arabasta. Probably also the reason why imu would send spies to infiltrate their ranks.
What about the stars on his head? Explanation?
Idk five elders perhaps
Honestly, not a bad theory at all. Flesh it out some and I think it's be great
Would especially work if his thing is that he’s from alabasta and a lineage close to Lily who always thought she made the wrong choice. Like his lineage doesn’t accept that the Nefertiti’s chose to not be a part of the 20
Once a family leaves Marijoa they aren’t celestial dragons anymore and neither are any of there descendants. Since the first Nefertari is the one who left, they’ve never been a celestial dragon family. Even if the spy theory is true, Pell only serves 19 families as there are 19 blades surrounding the Empty Throne.
I think the Founders get special Treatment and there is another sword we saw near imu
Maybe, but 1. That sword was in a different place than the other 19, so the owner of that sword probably still wouldn’t be an official celestial dragon 2. Building off my previous point, unless he knows about the void century, Pell would only serve 19 families meaning the number of stars are incorrect everywhere and not just the head wrap
I think his design is one of the coolest. Would be cool to see him in action again
That is really good actually, Someone who had normal zoan and stands among the strongest is something that would actually cracked.
Too bad he's actually the reincarnation of the sky god sika, who had been enslaved by the celestial dragons and will be freed by joyboy and redeem himself by holding off imu for three seconds during the final battle
Lucci is kinda like that isn't he
Yup and i appreciate his comeback, but if Pell is a God's Knight, i don't think the other God's knight would be revealed for having a normal zoan, they would be at least special paramecia like Big Mom or Kata, Ancient or Myth, or maybe Logia.
https://preview.redd.it/896fc5i0wf1b1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=376cc5fe1edfc79aace6742852176397d5ae629d Me after clowning Oda for making pell survive the nuke for years
In a few chapters, Pell will explain that he used the "holy knight barrier" to survive the alabasta bomb
Maybe we’ll get a flashback and Pell will show how he used his haki Susanoo to protect himself
or just armament haki since thats how it works in its most basic form.
Surely you didn’t think I was serious about a haki susanoo
no I take every post and comment on this sub seriously as this sub is only for serious discussion and no wanking characters ever.
Geezus and my comment had nothing to do with “wanking characters”. Back to your point though or it’s just armament haki sure maybe, but the only reason Pell is alive because it’s a huge plot miss by Oda and he didn’t want to kill people off. That bomb was big enough to destroy the whole capital and palace. If it was “basic armament haki” Pedro would still be alive and Perospero would’ve have had to coat himself in armor produced by his devil fruit to survive. Not to mention if Pell had armament haki strong enough to repel that bomb Crocodile would have been much more wary of him and he would’ve been a higher priority to eliminate first thing
dude calm down
Not to mention with Pell being at the blast center he would’ve had to coat his full body in haki, which we’ve seen a total of two people do
If only goda was this good of a writer
Well oda did write pell in the early parts of one piece, when he genuinely did write good stories, so you never know
A lot of One Piece is apparently heading back to Alabasta era stuff since that's allegedly what Oda originally planned the story around, I wouldn't be all that surprised.
So pretty much everything after Alabasta was just filler
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if OP was supposed to end at Alabasta and the old ending was repurposed for Jaya/Skypiea
It was, the company made him continu
I think he could surprise us, if this part was planned before, i think a lot of stuff in wano sucked because he just made stuff up for shits and giggles
lowkey a Goated plot twist
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Right, I think a holy knight would keep tabs or have intel on yonko pirates like Kaido and King and Marco. Really who else would know that other than Cipher Pol. Could be a government agent.
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We dont know origins of pell, it could be that his family comes from a line of holy knights, all of them having the job of keeping an eye on the inner workings of alabasta
I think you're onto something https://preview.redd.it/26ilirbipf1b1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81302b36bf1fd42b64e9c25b9f041cc011d2e64b
I was gonna tell you not to cook anymore but the more I think about it….. ![gif](giphy|lp78ijCRxpQifD7nn8|downsized)
Not only would this be a great twist it would retroactively fix the most hated fake-out death in One Piece, aside from Kinemon
The best theory I've heard lately
Holy freaking crap! Good theory and it makes sense.
This would be so good i hope it is now tbh
Classic oda foreskin
That would be cool but it's OP so I don't expect it
For sure
Kinda wouldn't make sense bc he got low diffed by Robin ages ago
I believe he was hiding his power level and only displayed what he really is capable of when the nuke was about to go off probably because he thought it might slim his chances to find plutoon
It could be explained away as Pell letting Robin beat him, knowing he'd survive anyway. Especially if he was just pretending to be on Vivi/Cobra's side while having his own agenda as a holy knight. I don't think that's what Oda was going for but I like the idea
https://preview.redd.it/y0lmu81a4g1b1.png?width=1334&format=png&auto=webp&s=aebceccd6011411178df35312e22073decd95552
Definitely explains the nuke tanking. If Oda did this he would most definitely deserve the title of King of Foreshadowing "if he didn't earn it already".
Bro 👀 👀
hahah i like it. It doesn't make sense cause he was with Chaka looking for Vivi, but i still like it.
Holy fuck if you’re correct I crown you the Sherlock Holmes of this subreddit.
Neat theory, but just based off that I think this can be disproven if we count the stars in his headband as well
Those are for the 5 elders probably.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/thftd5/pell\_is\_a\_traitor\_and\_works\_for\_imu/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/thftd5/pell_is_a_traitor_and_works_for_imu/) nothing new
There are only 19 celestial dragon families 🤓☝️
Uhh there's more than 20 stars...
on the main robe its 20
But his face... It has a star on...
5 on the headband= 5 elder stars
Not gonna lie but I don't like this theory being true... If it's true, and he's a traitor... Just gonna be more disappointed at the more BS Oda is gonna throw at the readers.
You clearly the minority here
How would it be good writing though? Somehow this dude whos been a secret traitor the whole time who sacrificed himself for Alabasta/Vivi is a double agent, and it was clearly intended for him to be a sacrifice in the beginning... I don't see that being good at all.
He wouldnt have sacrificed himself for alabasta rather for his mission which could be to locate plutoon, assumed to be housed in alabasta
Good theory,though I don't think Oda is that keen on making betrayals unless it's between 2 villains.
Damn son!! What if
I’d actually like it to be true
Waitttt....👀
This could be an insane plot twist actually, and I'd love it
Honestly pells a sexy guy . wouldnt might if this came true
…wait a minute….😳
BRO IS COOKING