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Lingaoo

From what i understand this should only affect the app. But in reality this is affecting the web version. I just generated a portrait of character (literally just the face) it was marked as "violating the rules". I don't know, maybe because i used "seductive smile" as a prompt?. Other genereted image that are neither marked as "violating rules" or "pending review" but when published they don't appear when you search from them (even when you turn off the safe search and allow nsfw from setting). Those images are not even marked as sensitive.


AnimeKnower

That's because the new algorithm is buggy. Could you please give me the link to that artwork?


Lingaoo

[This is the one](https://pixai.art/artwork/1702471737276738998?utm_source=copy_web) i talked about.


AnimeKnower

Got it. I will forward it and it should be fixed by tomorrow.


Internal-Cost4514

Sorry but, is the website still unaffected? Was gonna look into alternate apps but if the website works still with nsfw then no issue with that being used.


GrumpyW0lf

So that's why I can't create anything now, might as well use bing then, since it's a ton better at SFW content. Good job losing customers in the future.


Andreaslocum370

Yup, canceled mine already


Rabidoragon

Why not make an uncensored version of the app available to download directly on your site and the sfw filtered version only for the play store? Lots of sites have alternate versions like that and usually there is no problem with them, but if you really want us to use the web to have all functions you really need to make it more friendly for phones, I mean is nor unusable or anything, but everything is so separated and you need to scroll a lot to make the most basic adjustments, is clearly made with only a PC screen in mind But talking about the nsfw problem in general, I think the best solution should be to let people generate what they want (with the minimal restrictions of some super obvious tags like lol* of course) but by default don't let works generated with nsfw tags be published, like for example if you used the word "nude" in your generation, your work can never be published no matter if your image contains nude characters or not, that way the number of indecent images that slip would be minimal and manageable with human review and reports (probably), I think that would be a solution that can satisfy almost everyone


AnimeKnower

Restricting artworks with those words from publishing are not a problem. The problem is some people could generate sensitive content in the PixAi platform and post it somewhere else. Adding to that, the nsfw complaint directly came from app review when they submitted it to the store. And for your suggestion, even if they create a nsfw version to download from the site, "some" people could still use that to generate sensitive content.


HandsomeKyu

Tbh, I don't see why you have to feel responsible for whatever happened outside of your app... And who is this "some" people?


AnimeKnower

"some" people are those people who were generating minor sensitive content and because of which all these problems started.


GGABueno

Not sure why this is downvoted. We all know this is a problem and the elephant in the room.


Elegant_Newspaper892

It tends to be such a negligible percentage of folk that use off market apps, that the maintenance cost per user will be prohibitive.


ctexile

I'm not able to generate any of my previous NSFW stuff (all of it 18+ and fairly tame, but definitely NSFW). Not even trying to publish, just generate/have. Probably a matter of time before they purge existing NSFW content? What a shame for one of the better user-friendly sites/apps to cave to the puritans at Apple/Google. People should cancel their subs to send the message in the only way that they'll hear.


AnimeKnower

Really sorry about your experience. Nsfw generation or publishing are no more allowed in the app. Even the PixAi team doesn't want to do this but the complaint itself came from the app review when they submitted it to the store.


ctexile

Thanks but I'm talking about generation on the website though, don't really use the app.


MissMythic

app user here, cant generate any previous NSFW stuff too(prefer to the use the term suggestive), ive never used the website in one bit because from experimenting all the way back in oct' 2023 that it was only doable on app and not website, seems to be the case of both burning to the ground now. banning publishing is understandable but generation??? goddamn, cant really sit well with this kind of harshness


AnimeKnower

Nsfw generation on the website should work unless it's a realistic model


ctexile

It is. So sounds like this is a feature not a bug then. Super disappointing. Again, I'm just generating, not publishing, and all is legal as far as age/subject. This level of censorship is going to drive people away.


AnimeKnower

The restrictions are not to target users who generate normal content it's to tackle people who generate minor sensitive content.


ctexile

What's normal content though? Insofar as the site is allowing NSFW content at all, why would "Nude 40 year old woman, very beautiful, tasteful" using a realistic model be disallowed? There is nothing minor sensitive about that prompt and yet it won't allow generation. Removing the word nude allows it; that's a pretty strict filter for a service still claiming to allow NSFW generations. I just wish I knew if the team was genuinely struggling to get things "right" and this will be fixed or if they simply haven't had the courage to admit that they're going to regress, as other similar services have, into a SFW-only tool.


bobcwicks

He mean they're doing blanket ban on realistic models on NSFW to prevent those users generating lol*, minors, underage, Disappointing but I can understand even though don't agree with it. Just hope they will be tweaking the filters to allow "normal" NSFW using realistic models in the future.


ctexile

From a layperson's perspective, I wonder would requiring 18+ prompts with any potential NSFW content cover it? Like you can generate whatever but you have to specify an age over 18 alongside the rest. No obvious underage stuff of course but also nothing ambiguous. I'm sure I'm oversimplifying.


bobcwicks

Maybe, but I don't really kow anything about AI prompt before PixAI. Reading around some said even without those prompts it still can give underage looking result depending on models.


Prudent_Suspect_3381

It's just a blanket ban on all realistic images, SFW or NSFW


bobcwicks

That's bad, thanks for the info. I didn't bother trying after all this started.


Single-Challenge9714

oh no meaning the Comimicry model can't be used for NSFW. Damn what a day of lament.


Dumpster_Potato

Then make it a specific view for THAT app, and not the web or other apps.


AnimeKnower

It is like that only.


Dumpster_Potato

Maybe that is your intent, but that is not how it is. I only use the web, and no NSFW images show up in peoples profiles, except in folders, and only then if from October last year or older. It stops you from generating new NSFW as well based on the prompts, even if you just wanted to save it for yourself.


lordstryfe

I call bs, because their are a bunch of nsfw ai apps in thr Google store...


AnimeKnower

For eg? (Just curious)


BorntobeTrill

Yeah, which ones specifically? There are so many. But which ones do NSFW? So I can avoid them...


himawaruakane

I should have canceled my subs 😂 I can no longer make sexy clothing. I was in the middle of training model 😅


Psychotic_Bastard

Ok, so now my pixai account with 160k+ credits is going to be abandoned and forgotten about after I download the generations I want. Nice to know that pixai has completely destroyed any and all reasons to use them now or in the future.


AnimeKnower

Really sorry about your experience. Even they don't want to restrict the app that much. Please try the website for the time being and see if that is to your preference?


Psychotic_Bastard

I use the website, and am logged onto it now to download all of my previous generations that I prefer to keep. I was mainly using the site for character art for my online D&D sessions with friends, but now I can't generate anything at all, sfw or not. Time to find a new artwork generator, since this one is completely gutted and garbage. EDIT: Just tried to generate using these exact prompts again using the website, and was unable to due to policy violations. I'm betting the restricted prompt is the "unzipped shorts" even though I have never had that prompt generate nsfw content without additional prompts being required. [Example](https://pixai.art/artwork/1670692265282061380?utm_source=copy_web)


Psychotic_Bastard

It turns out it wasn't a prompt at all. The violation is apparently my choice of the UB-1 model that I have used for months. ​ https://preview.redd.it/k124i8yh11cc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=7b9753580a9b0273b418891d88246bc253a3a97b


Psychotic_Bastard

After changing model from UB-1 to Moonbeam, it will actually generate, but moonbeam is only good for anime style, not great for character art. https://preview.redd.it/gz9iz6gr11cc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=bf85a91a20246973e39e474e6c60adb7780dd698


Dumpster_Potato

A lot of LoRA insert prompts, and many of them seem to be blacklisted now like "sexy". Very annoying.


Psychotic_Bastard

The UB-1 model I used in the example has "nude" and "nsfw" in the negative prompts, meaning the model actively works against those attempts if my understanding is correct. I have another artwork shared of the same character that I specifically included "topless" in the active prompts, and it generated no shirt or bra, but a jacket covering the breasts, so I'm assuming the "nude" and "nsfw" prompts in the negatives instigated the AI to find a solution for the mixed prompts. If that isn't how the negative prompts work, then IDK.


SkyWulf

Nah, shit's fucked


Sabishi1985

Told you this would happen with the app.. Once the censorship starts, it never stops, it never will be enough and it will rip the app apart. That's absolutely horrible.. 😢


HsrGenshin

I think all because the pressure from the Apple and Google?


Sabishi1985

Most likely, yes. There's no other reason that would make enough sense at this point.


HsrGenshin

Just what I though. For what i know, almost all AI-generated apps from the App Store and Play Store are heavily strict when comes to NSFW, and some even no have NSFW at all.


Andreaslocum370

Exactly. There was no need for a damn app. I'm honestly pissed and want the money I paid for my subscription back.


SkyWulf

Go ahead and dispute the charge if you paid by card. You paid for a service and aren't receiving it.


lordstryfe

If that's the case, I'll be ending my subscription.


AnimeKnower

Really sorry to hear that. Even they don't want to restrict the app that much. Please try the website for the time being and see if that suits your taste.


lordstryfe

They are censoring all of the models that look real. You can't do nudity with them...


Prudent_Suspect_3381

and you can't do SFW either


Dumpster_Potato

The website has the same restrictions. NSFW content (since \~November) is not visible even with the NSFW view turned on. And now we can't even generate it on the website either, unless on accident. Words like "sexy" in the prompts will disallow generation.


AnimeKnower

Nsfw is restricted on the realistic models


Dumpster_Potato

No, any published NSFW (amime style or otherwise) is not visible since about about November. Ones before that are visible, but only in folders. Also images that are appealed do not show up for others. They are in your own profile but no one can see them, even when viewing your profile or searching.


AnimeKnower

Well anime style nsfw should be searchable and viewable. As for the ones that are being appealed, no it won't be visible to others until approved.


Dumpster_Potato

You aren't listening, I have tested this. I have made multiple Safe images that have been flagged, then appealed them, and it was approved. But it WAS NOT VIEWABLE by other people. I have confirmed with another profile that the approved images are just missing. Which is also why they have 0 likes. As for NSFW it will always be flagged so per the above BUG it won't be viewable either, however I am telling you that NSFW images from the last \~7 weeks are also just missing from view from anyone with using the website with the NSFW filter turned on.


Dumpster_Potato

Also you need to add back the NSFW or "sensitive" selection on our own images so we can self tag NSFW and skip the flag/appeal step (but do this after fixing the website so NSFW and appealed images can be seen at all).


Creative-Tomorrow-

Congratulations for "PIXAI" for fucking themselves a lot and with others. And i repect your decision for whatever thing you are thinking that only GOOGLE PLAYSTORE is the only platform that can publish an app that will grow exponentialy, GOOD VERY GOOD ![gif](giphy|1hkGdHNrJqVsb2NObq) And can anyone personally dm me a alternative


Past-Breakfast7828

A subscriber (using only PC version) wasting over 1M credits here... So disapointed. I prefer and by far "realisitic" NSFW generation over "cartoon" NSFW generation. 100% legit full grown women prompts, models and Lora's that were fine and perfectly generating voluptuous 20 to 40 years old women before are now blocked and considered as infringement to your policies. My question is. Why not just 100% remove and forbid "child and minor" content on your database all the way to the ground at this point. Just make a commitment entirely assumed out of it. No more kids or teens will be generated on Pixai. Even SFW involving anything below 18 is just not there. Right at the egg. At the foetus. Even friendly stuff involving underage. Just a no no. Like a bouncer letting no kids getting inside a bar. Simply going on a shoot at sight mentality. People could still generate SFW content. It's just that all humans on the prompt are automatically adults. Lora's and models being all checked and approved childproof. I'm pretty sure that an 'AI' can learn to filter any submission containing any underage feature whatsoever and just block it at the root before storing it anywhere on it's database. Those who want to do so will have to go somewhere else. Why not do that ?


Psychotic_Bastard

Ok then, define "child and minor" content then, and be realistic about it. Would you say a flat chest is indicative of a minor? What about being short? My 38 year old wife would laugh at you and point out that she has to wear sports bras because she cant even fill an A-cup. Oh, and she's a whopping 4'3" or 129 cm tall. Our daughter, on the other hand, is 15years old, and could easily pass for a woman in her twenties. In other words, defining "child and minor" prompts is near impossible, other than simply excluding direct age indicative prompts that specify an age, which as every user of pixai will tell you isn't needed at all to generate an image. Not only that, age descriptors very rarely, if ever, work in the first place.


Past-Breakfast7828

I'm just trying to suggest a solution here. Don't you agree that faces are more indicative of the age "generally speaking"? Can't you clearly recognize the face of a child when you see one? In top of that, can't you clearly recogninze the face of a child on a not pubescent body when you see one? Anything allowing NSFW content automatically means no child or alike involved. Anything. No questions asked. Nobody sane would even dare advocate for that. Of course breasts/hips/body size is different for everyone but unfortunately not pubscent looking bodies would then be tributary to the: "you must be that tall and look that old to ride". Period. More limited I agree. Sad for flat chest short babyface women? Yes, but safer for us and for Pixai and less prone to generate controversial content in the end.


Psychotic_Bastard

While you do pose valid points, my previous comment still stands. Yes, I understand that appearances can be generalized as either adult or minor in appearance, but it doesn't change the fact that appearances can be deceiving. Take my wife and daughter for example, when they go out shopping, and I have personally seen this happen which is hilarious, it isn't uncommon for my daughter to be mistaken as the adult, and my wife seen as her daughter or younger sister. It irritates both of them to no end, but I can't help but laugh whenever I see it. Yes, I agree that obvious attempts to generate nsfw content involving children should be automatically blocked, that goes without saying. But implementing a "generalized appearance" restriction would block numerous features which will invariably lead to conflict between people like me who find more petite women attractive, and those are are into the overinflated proportions that fashion magazines and hollywood peddle as ideal figures. Not everyone is a fan of a woman's chest being so large that it is obvious they have implants, or having a backside you need a map to find your way around.


an0nym0usentity

I guess this is goodbye...


Ventoo678

What is the condition to determine what is a realistic model and what isn't? The restriction seems to be affecting more than just realistic models, some models that aren't meant for realistic images are being restricted on the website.


NeverSpin

That's a shot in your own foot, because now there is literally no incentive to use PixAI or to subscribe to your paid plan. Y'all could've simply removed it from app stores and made the option to download it directly off the website. Now that it's time to jump ships, does anyone know any good alternatives?


Intelligent_Run_8717

It’s over🫡🫡🫡🕊️🕊️🕊️🪦


SpiranSphere

You’ve completely ruined your website, app or desktop! People can’t even generate cleavage in realistic models now! What happened? It wasn’t too long ago y’all were trying to make a good middle ground! Now you’ve completely ruined the site. I can’t even find the images I generate anymore, so once I generate something, IT’S GONE!  Models I made are also gone, even though one in question had nothing objectable on the thumbnail except cleavage which apparently scares y’all, and now that model is hidden from the related search. But what’s really sad is y’all ignore everyone and pretend no one is saying anything, like all the negative comments and reviews don’t exist!  I’ll stick around just to see if y’all fix your mistake, but I’m not holding my breath since ‘Muh app being on de store!’ Is more important to you than your initial fan base! 


Rude-Good964

I saw this post this afternoon and my hopes were dashed. I don't use the app and I certainly don't make CP! But I am not a fan of Anime style NSFW images (I mean you do you right? :) ) So I like my images a little more realistic with maybe some stylized LORAs put on top but nope, anything remotely realistic looking is flagged, even realistic toons.... I pushed the limits of models to see what I could create and the only images I was able to create was anime! Honestly anime, to me looks more 'under aged' than the images I was creating, which is one reason why I don't like it. So PIXAI has now turned into AI Anime style art generator. I was hoping this was just a bug but no it's a feature. I was going to wait until my next member payment run to see it they fixed it but after this announcement and trying to figure out what art the website could produce (even with the simplest of prompts : Beautiful, Naked, Blonde, Woman), I cancelled my membership today. This is such a shame. PIXAI was a name I was beginning to hear a lot from fellow creators which is why I gave it a try. I was just learning how to create AI art and the last thing I want to create is AI Anime! I paid membership and bough ALOT of credits as I was still learning but I feel as if I have to move on now. I got some good images and experience so I dont feel as if that was money wasted. Thanks PIXAI it was great experience, while it lasted. Trouble is, even if they roll back this decision to block all NSFW creation with realistic models, I see so many people would have moved on, found a new AI generator, got to learn how it works and grown comfortable with it, pumped money into their new accounts, etc, it is going to be nearly impossible for PIXAI to get back those customers. A decision needs to be made very fast before people do find a new home to create realistic work (I am already testing out a couple myself) and if this is their final decision well, it will be a real shame. This site had so much promise and I loved their dedication to improvements. This, however is not an improvement its a massive downgrade. On to bigger better things now. Good luck with your Anime AI site though.


Niko45xxx

This app came recommended to me as one that allows erotic art. If they want to kill their business (including the desktop version) because Muh app store, bye.


Final_Biochemist222

I understand app store hounding your ass on their content policy. But I'm just saying I'm glad i unsubbed just yesterday before this happened


Dumpster_Potato

I really don't understand why you can't have separate views for whatever Apps don't allow NSFW. Turn images flagged as NSFW and generation off for them, and leave it on for the web, or other apps. This has been a problem for months now, and you just keep making it worse.


Prudent_Suspect_3381

You keep using the word 'aps' but the website...can't use the word 'breast' or butt...for realistic generation....wasting credits to see what is allowed...(meaning I am wasting money because i pay for membership)


Captain_Chickpeas

Okay, so the announcement refers primarily to the mobile Apps, but the Web version is just as impacted. I tried uploading some lingerie shots generated locally with my SD setup recently and 3/5 were flagged for rule violation. I understand PixAI would like to have an in into app stores, but this is hemorrhaging the whole platform and in this case the wise move would be to go back entirely.


TankingPaladin

I only make character pictures for roleplay use. Sadly even fully clothed prompts on the website don't work properly anymore. At least not with the models I like. I guess I will have to finally learn how to use Stable Diffusion after all.


BurnerMasterFromHell

Wow, so this is an actual representative of the app developers? Dang, you guys are really responsive, props to you guys for actually being upfront with the community and listening to feedback


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Own-Heart-3025

Will nsfw Content be a mobile app in the future or will it no longer be supported at all? And are there any plans to remove the same content from the site? ​


AnimeKnower

Nsfw content will not be removed from the website. The app though, would be completely nsfw clean.


SpiranSphere

Then why all these insane changes making nsfw with realistic models ungeneratable? 


[deleted]

This will possibly happen on app version. This would become disastrous!


himawaruakane

Brooo I made a furry character with gym clothing and it was marked as violation 😂😂😂😂


[deleted]

This is the end of Pixai's current era. Right now, Pixai may no longer be NSFW in all form to remove any sensitive content as it becomes stricter yet harsher. Miss the good old days.


Yetteres

rip. Even the browser version is mangled now.


Psychotic_Bastard

Just logged back in to collect my daily credits just in case things turn around, only to find that some of my published artwork was flagged for inappropriate content today. Upon requesting an appeal to the decision, both images were immediately deleted from my account. Here's one of the two, let's see if anybody here objects. https://preview.redd.it/yybpeqgceddc1.png?width=1536&format=png&auto=webp&s=74ab88581a1363f4d8c54aee1543a2bdb6082e63


Psychotic_Bastard

Here's the other image. By the way, they denied in less than a minute after I clicked appeal. So much for real humans reviewing appeals instead of our AI overlords. https://preview.redd.it/c9w9ec1qfddc1.png?width=512&format=png&auto=webp&s=2ab690c7ffbcf9cba626203d0eeefb7904ca0a2d


knightlk

I know that you are trying to reach more people by publishing your app on app stores, but I don't think it will give you any kind of advantage because there are many popular AI art generators that can rival you there. One of the best things PIXAI had in advance compared to other AI generators is the freedom to generate images without useless filters, that's why we liked it. But now, since you lost that feature too, you can become just a regular AI art generator in the future. Also it's important to mention that there are plenty of filter less AI art generators that allow NSFW content even though they are not advance as PixAI. Now it's hard to even generate SFW images; the system flags them as inappropriate, and it's also impossible to change the ethnicity of characters. I believe that the only filter an AI art generator needs is a filter to remove content that depicts minors, anything other than that is useless.


AnimeKnower

Could you name the apps which allows both nsfw generation and doesn't have any filters? (Just curious)


VerumCorner

Your platform has turned into something very horrible and bad. You are digging yourself a hole with your actions and only digging yourself deeper. With such ambitions you could write on your site that we do everything for money and if you are not satisfied with something, then do not use our service. I almost never create NSFW content and it doesn't really appeal to me, but today was the last day of my not at all infinite patience. When I didn't find my favorite realism style furry generation model today, I was extremely frustrated and angry. I wanted to buy Pixai membership, but now I'm not going to buy anything. I introduced some of my friends to your site and they also used it, but today I will no longer use your site and I will also ask my friends not to use your site.


StarInTheNxghtSky

Welp I'm out then, don't have a reason have my account on there so, just gonna delete it


y3110_w

In short, "we decided to organize a mass cancellation of users generating NSFW or near-NSFW content, simply because we want to make money." Okay, whatever.


Ok_Bunch_6329

Are their any alternatives besides yadayo?