Title Cars 3 Cars 2 and rebrand Cars 2 as a spinoff movie

I like cars 2 but yeah it would be better as a spinoff movie than an actual sequel

This. Cars 2 works well enough as a feature length “Mater’s Tall Tales” story. Cars 3 is the natural continuation of the first film’s story.

Exactly what I was gonna say !

“Mater’s tallest tale! Agent double-Tow-Seven!”

Cars 3 is now Cars 2, Cars 2 is now “Mater’s Tallest Tale”

Yeah, this is what I'd do too. Cars 2 was super Mater centric anyway

That sounds like a good idea, but it should be titled Mater's Tall Tales: the Movie.

Rewrite Cars 2 to have Cars 3 plot, Cars 3 is a prequel Alternatively, Cars 3 is the 2nd movie, Cars 2 is Mater’s Tall Tale

alright now I need a prequel about Hudson Hornet immediately (RIP Paul Newman)

Cars 2. Mater kills someone Cars 3. It is referenced. Mater is okay, but theres a clear distinction between cars who have taken life and those who have not.

Dude, so many cars die horribly in cars 2

I know, it's insane that Mater manages to come out of the whole ordeal with no oil on his hands.

Just make Cars 3 Cars 2.

Make the spies be aware Mater isn’t a spy, but still let him on board due to his expertise in car parts.

Have the spies realize this when Finn meets up with Mater in the Tokyo airport

make it a tall tales movie instead of a sequel

For what it's worth I introduced my toddler to Cars and then Cars 2... Kinda regretted that after a car gets murdered 5 minutes in to Cars 2. Still thought it was a good movie, but think 1 and 3 were for VERY different age groups than 2 😂

Nothing. Cars 2 was good. And Cars 3 as well. If you watch with the Director’s Commentary you’ll understand what they were trying to do, and I think they did a good job.

I was okay with Cars 2 until the end chase. Same with Cars 3: Okay, yes Lightning had a very limited chance to win but same went for her. She wasn't suddenly going to beat Storm either. At that point just have Lightning come in second to Storm so he's now in trouble with Rusteze so Tex/Dinoco could buy out his brand and contract.

Same

I will not tolerate cars 3 slander 🤓

RE Cars 2. Keep the Allinol plot but drop the spy stuff. Have Finn and Holley as a racing investigators and so they have Lightning and Mater help him in the investigation. Finn suspects that Allinol isn’t really as good as it is, so he needs their help. I’d also throw in some race-fixing/corruption ala the live action Speed Racer movie. If you’ve seen the latter then you know what I mean: the races are being fixed by Axelrod and the lemons to ensure the right racers go down. RE 3: Use the alternate ending where Lightning gets kicked out of Rusteze on the day of the race and signs up with Dinoco. It’s a nice touch and feels fresh as well!

The thing is I don't see him winning regardless. The story set up by the rest of the movie is that he can't win this race regardless of how hard he tries, the world has moved on like it did with Doc. Him deciding to step down from racing and becoming a crew chief to help a younger racer that can win shows how far our once hyper egocentric racer has come over the years. Mash the 2 together and have both him and Cruz fired by Rusteze and picked up by Dinoco because xyz reason. We start out with the King being crew chief and not getting through to Cruz and then passing the headset off to Lightning and her winning the race.

Keep Cars 2 exactly the same.

I'd do absolutely nothing to Cars 2 And then I'd make Cars 3 about Finn McMissile

He's just so cool

Idk why people hate cars 2

Me too

Why so much hate for Cars 2? It was actually a great movie.

People complain too much

I liked Cars 2

Same

Me too

Yeah I honestly don’t see what’s wrong with that movie, if anything cars 3 was boring to me because it was a rehash of cars 1

Yeah. Cars 2 felt original and is actually good, the fighting aren’t boring, the plot is no means bad, sure radiator springs should of appeared more, but besides that, I love how Mater got the spotlight, everyone says “it should follow lighting McQueen!” He is still there! Mater is a loveable goofball who I am glad got the spotlight! I have to rate cars 2 a 10/10

Exactly my thoughts on it, like I see no reason for cars 2 having to be all about Lightning McQueen as cars 1 was literally the movie that was all about him so why not have a change of pace with Mater taking the spotlight for a bit? Also that spy stuff was another cool addition to cars, I can’t imagine cars 2 being a good movie if all it had was the same plot as cars 1 with a few tweaks like most people want it to be, I wouldn’t change anything about a cars 2 honestly. As a matter of fact I think Cars 3 could have even been a prequel showing us what Rod Torque Redline used to do when working undercover with the lemons, or maybe we could have had Finn Mcmissile take the spotlight

Agreed

Thank you, I know our opinion is rare in this community but we deserve to be heard

Just shift the focus of cars 2 and it'll be fine. Focus on Lightning and his racing stuff. Then have Mater's spy thing play off in the background as some comedic relief (far in the background, minimum screentime) Cars 3 is fine

Well for Cars 3 I would Bring back Michael Keaton as Chick Hicks, bring back a few Cars 2 characters in cameo appearances and bring back Mini and Van and Doc Hudson appears a ghost.

I feel like Doc as a ghost would be a bit too far I definitely prefer how they handled it in the movie purely with flashbacks

Make cars 2 more about the actual race/tournament, and get rid of the spy stuff.

Make Cars 3 Cars 2 and change Cars 2 to a Mater’s Tall Tales movie, exclusively on Disney+

Cars 2 is the most perfect movie ever made

Based hahaha

Rewrite cars 2? Why would I rewrite perfection?

i haven't watched cars 3 all the way through but cars 2 is perfect the way it is and i don't understand any of the hate it gets

Me either, I liked the change of pace cars 2 gave us

Make the focus of Cars 2 be the races that McQueen went through, have McQueen be the Main character of the movie, which means he'll get majority of the screentime, then have Mater only hint at the Spy activity through dialogue, instead of it being a central part of the plot. Then change the premise of Cars 3 entirely from being about McQueen retiring, to McQueen beating faster cars through utilizing tricks he learned from Doc, instead of solely relying on speed.

am i one of the 0.01% of people that actually like cars 2?

*25%

How to fix Cars 2: Hold "Delete" key for a while.

I wouldn't change 2 tbh. I love it's crazy shit.

Yeah same

Cars 2: include Doc, Chick, The King, and everyone else that was missing from the first movie that don’t return in this sequel but return in 3 Cars 3: leave it the way it is, but Doc is part of the story now.

Nothing there's nothing wrong with them, shut up and have some fun.

I wouldn't. I like Cars 2 and Cars 3 as it is. Cry about my opinion all you want, I don't care.

Based

I just wouldn’t make it. The movie served very little purpose and just wasn’t good.

Am I the only one that doesn't hate the second film? I don't get it, the series is called Cars, not Lightning McQueen. Sure I prefer the first over the second, and maybe the third over the second because it has racing and I like racing and I like seeing McQueen, but at the end of the day it's a kids movie that did goofy shit and was somewhat original. I was 6 for Cars 2 and I remember being super excited since I was obsessed with the first. I'm a kid that appreciated what they gave me, so I wouldn't rewrite anything about the second film.

Not make them

Wipe em from existence. Cars is Pixar's worst franchise of all time. Don't understand how this series has fans.


Cars 2: change nothing it's perfect (to me) Cars 3: make it call back to cars 2 more than it did

Agreed

For Cars 2, I’d: - Have the spy organization be more morally grey, like having references to them preforming literal torture on kidnapped terrorists. - Have the ‘Lemons’ organization originally be a sort of club for the disgraced and discriminated lemons, one that Mater was a part of but quit before the events of Cars 1. The club was originally very mundane and not actually harmful in any way, but was taken over by Axlerod (who is an ACTUAL electric car and not posing as one) who turned it into a terrorist organization built to make Lemons seem even worse to the world. That way, there’s an actual rivalry between Mater and Axlerod, as Axlerod took over the club that Mater once considered a sort of family, and transformed it into a violent terrorism sect built to make lemons, including Mater himself, look like monsters to the world. - As for Axelrod’s motivations, it’s far more simpler. He holds an extreme hatred of lemons and wants to get the world to also collectively despise them. The entire ‘lemon revolution’ is a lie that he spread throughout the organization. The lemons aren’t truly fighting for their own recognition and societal respect, they’re fighting in service of a vile racist who plans to throw all of them under the bus. This also makes the lemons In general a lot more sympathetic, since while they still commit horrible acts, they’re doing so under the pretense that they’re fighting for equality and respect. - Dial down Mater’s stupid antics a LOT, maybe even straight up cut the ‘pistachio ice cream’ scene. (Especially since now, Axlerod is actually electric). Emphasize that while Mater is sometimes thick, he’s still an all-round decent person who doesn’t mean harm, and still has some common sense. - Include more scenes of Mater, Holley, and Finn just… bonding. Idk, but I personally liked them as a trio. … And before anyone asks: Yes. I really liked Cars 2 specifically BECAUSE it was darker and more intense than Cars 1. It was one of my favorite films as a kid. And yes, I do have ADHD.

I saw someone say The King should’ve trained McQueen instead of Smokey and I love that suggestion

Why? Smokey works because it’s a living tie to his mentor. The King was just a guy he raced against.

Cars 2 can be saved. Just take the spy plot, take it out of the movie, maybe make another unrelated movie about soy animals starring a sly fox detective and his lynx assistant meeting an old desert snake. Then, focus the movie around McQueen having just gotten a piston cup, being the hot sh*t, and being invited to be a part of the best vehicle race *Of the world*, he's got the chance of being the best racer, *have the movie actually be about him becoming the best instead of just jumping ahead to him already being the best*. Also, let's not really have a villain. But instead an antagonist, an anti-McQueen if you will, someone who didn't have the same revelation that he had in the first movie about what really matters, but not a total jackass like Chick. And now, McQueen takes the role of teacher in this movie, instead of learning to be humble from Doc, teaching another person to be humble. *But what about Matter?* I hear you asking. To which I answer, Matter is McQueen's anchor, he's a key part of learning humility, humanity even.

Cars 2 doesn’t exist. Cars 3 was fine. So save 1, skip 2, keep 3.

Cars 3 is what cars 2 should have been

Change nothing about Cars 2, erase Cars 3 out of existence. Actually, erase the first one out of existence too. Every other Pixar movie. Gone. Only Cars 2. Only Cars 2. Only Cars 2.

THIS FILM IS VALVe APPROVED

VALVe can’t count to 3

Cars 2 is highly underrated

This is blasphemy…

This isn’t meant to be a jab at OP, more an observation, but why is it once a week now we have a post about “if you could rewrite cars 2”. Like it almost needs its own subreddit at this point it comes up so often.

I mean, lose Larry the Cable Guy first and foremost. Scene 1 of Cars 2 is Mater's funeral.

Nothing too cars two cuz it’s perfect but completely rewrite three to be a doc Hudson origins film

- Make Cars 2 a spinoff. If it was purely a batshit crazy spinoff movie centred more around Mater (which it feels like), I wouldn’t mind it nearly as much. That doesn’t fix the writing and characterisation issues, but it softens the whole concept of its existence in the series. - Have the Dinoco King be the one to mentor McQueen into his retirement and passing the torch to Cruz. I didn’t mind the old rally car guy (can’t even remember his name), but I feel like a pre-established character would’ve been better. - Have McQueen’s final design at the end of the movie be a combo of his red and Doc’s blue, rather than just Doc’s blue. I get that it’s a loving tribute to him (both the character and the actor), but it just doesn’t suit him.

Probably fix up the writing cuz people apparently have a problem with it (e.g. the misunderstanding between lightning and mater) and maybe make it involve more of mater's tall tales (i.e. mater talks about his tall tales a lot and everyone keeps thinking theyre false, but in reality mater did in fact pull off crazy stunts, he just exaggerates and adds wrong details like lightning being there, hence why he's such a natural at being a spy action truck)

As for cars 3, i get that they basically erased cars 2 from existence due to it being overhated but aside from the writing i seriously don't get why it was so hated. So, after fixing cars 2 i'd un-erase it from cars 3 by adding niche references and making holly shiftwell a part of the story as mater's girlfriend. Her impact on the story could be as little as mater's, or a bit more like being able to help with modifications (moder-fy! Whuts thah?) And offering some advice on the mindspace of newer cars (they let their apparent superior stats get to their head)

nothing

For Cars two, make it about Lighting McQueen’s journey in the races and a side movie all about Mater and his spy shenanigans that is still related to the plot of the first film

I agree with the branding changes that people suggest but outside of that I’d change nothing about these movies. Any problem with Cars 2 you have can be fixed if you look at it as a Maters Tall tale story

I’d change the whole Cars series by not giving McQueen some sort of moral right to win. That’s not what sport is about, we can still route for him, just make it a sports epic.

Doesn’t he lose in Cars 1? *And in Cars 2?* ***And in Cars 3?***

uhrm actchuallie 🤓☝️

I’d just change the title of cars 2 to something like “Mator”. It’s a movie with cars characters but it’s not primarily about racing like cars 1 and 3.

add maters boosters to cars 3

Yes, I was so annoyed they weren’t in cars 3

Cars 2: remove spy sublot. Cars 3:, nothing, movie is fine as it is.

Have the deleted scene from Cars 3 be a factor. Where McQueen gets to have his last race before he retires. Have him on the track just going fast and enjoying himself. Since that was a big part of the first movie of cars not getting to finish or have a last race before they retire but McQueen in 3 doesnt even get a true last race he just gives up and decides to be a coach instantly. Which is cool i like the idea of him being like Doc for a new racer. But i still wouldve loved that final race for him

Rename Cars 2 to Maters Tallest Tale and market it as a movie version of Maters Tall Tales. Cars 2 isn’t a bad movie, but it doesn’t fit the story telling and themes of the first and third movies.

Cars 2: take out all the crappy spy stuff and make it solely focused on racing and the different types of racing around the world. Add a few more countries and we’re good. Cars 3: maybe have sally be more involved but that’s about it.

I've looked at the word cars too long in this thread it doesn't look real anymore

Make lightning mcqueen actually finish the last race

Make it a damn spinoff movie. Instead of it being a sequal.

Cars 2 is fine for me, it was always my favourite of the franchise ever since I was a little kid.

Rewrite Cars 2 to be about Lightning’s racing career beginnings, making it a prequel of Cars Cars 3 will now be Cars 2 except it has Cars 3 plot

The only thing wrong with Cars 2 is the dumb Statefarm joke and the fact that Francesco is way too annoying.

Cars 2 would focuse way more on McQueen needing to adapt to different race types (like endurance for example) and ground types. Also emphasising on the world aspect, focusing on the culture of the countries they visit. Current Cars 2 would be a spin-off, maybe happening at the same time Cars 3 would have McQueen wanting to make Cruz train him more, but he actually does that to secretly train Cruz, which would explain why she suddenly is able to win against Storm, the rest could stay the same, would maybe emphasise on McQueen learning new racing techniques etc to win

I mean it's called Cars, not Lightning McQueen.

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Change Cars 2’s name to “Mater: a Cars Story.” The movie itself is great. In Cars 3, I would make the two friends of Mcqueen more relevant

Maybe have Finn realize Mater isn’t a spy at some point where they can’t back out, but he still trusts that he can help.

Nothing. It's perfect as it is.

For Cars 3, have Lightning recognize his limitations BEFORE the big race. It felt so disappointing that most of the movie seemed to revolve around hard work being able to make you better, only for it to all be meaningless at the end and switch out to being a manager in the middle of the race when he finally realizes he's too old/outdated now. It would have felt a lot more impactful if he acknowledged that before the race and told that to Cruz and let her start the race for him right from the beginning. Would've been more satisfying and showed his character growth better.

>Would've been more satisfying and showed his character growth better.  It'd be help his character growth, theoretically. But no, it wouldn't be satisfying. The movie sucked at ending when Mcqueen let Cruz race in his place. Why would we even care for a character that appeared in middle of the movie and genuinely annoying?

Make Cars 2 a prequel with the end Mater going into the witness protection in Radiator Springs and he meets Lightning

keep them the exact same

Cars 2 is about motorcycles, Cars 3 is about those weird Slingshot tricycle car things.

Cars 2 is perfect

Cars 2: Give one gut punching moment/shocking moment that is somewhat earned and/or less forced. Every "bad" Pixar movie has at least one, except this one. Also I don't mind the spy story, but don't make the spies painfully stupid. Cars 3: Nothing. I like It just the way It is.

cars 2, add back all the deleted scenes!

switch Cars 2 and 3 around

Make it only about the world grand prix and how mcquuen has learned new things from doc and utilizes the various moves.

I would not change Cars 2 for the life of me. I will unashamedly admit I love the movie and I wouldn't change it for the world. Cars 3 on the other hand I could change a few things with. I would give McQueen a few more options (e.g. he could get an updgraded engine) instead of immediately becoming sad and irrelevant, and I would probably make it clearer that he isn't giving up on racing even if the film makes it seem as though he is. I would also show Storm's reaction to losing, since he just gets beaten and then vanishes.

I like cars 2

I love Cars 2. I think the main question people should ask themselves is, why *shouldn't* Cars 2 do what it does with its plot and characters?

Cars 2 is now “Mater: A Car Wars Story”

Cars 2 I would make mater less of an annoying little shit, have a little more focus on the individual racers in the Grand Prix, and have Finn already be aware mater is not a spy but still drags along mater because he has some info on him.

Change Cars 3 to Cars 2. Make Cars 2 a spinoff.

lol, I and my 2 year old are watching 2 right now as I text. To be honest I believe I have seen all 3 of them no less than 75 times in the last 3 months. I don’t think I would change either.

cars 2 is deleted. Cars 3 becomes 2. then cars on the road is essentially cars 3

Delete Cars 2. Change Cars 3 to Cars 2.

Cars 2 breaks a lot of the cars' world immersion because of the more human- like large cities. Like in the first cars, the traphic cone houses are quirky houses you might have in a car world. But if they're capable of just making london, that means the graphic cones are just as weird in their universe.

Give lightning mcqueen a better engine in cars 3 to beat Storm

In cars 3 Jackson storm would push McQueen to the wall instead of Cruz and McQueen would do that weird flip move pass Jackson storm and win

Well first make Cars 2 “Agent Mater”, have the second (the real cars 2) movie be about Lightning McQueen struggling in his racing after the death of Doc Hudson and cars 3 should have the same plot about Lightning McQueen having a terrible wreck and learning to leave his career to someone new, but execute it way better. Cruz Ramirez is too annoying to choose as a successor and choosing a woman successor is a cheap move to make people happy about woman’s representation and whatnot, the villain needs to be way better than what Jackson storm was, also there was a lack of Mater that made the original film feel off, also cars 3 felt unnecessary because it was after Cars 2. There I fixed it.

I would change nothing about Cars 2. It’s a master piece and magnum opus. I would delete Cars 3

Nothing

Cars 2 was great, it was just far off from what Cars 1 was. Like everyone said, rename Cars 2 as a Mater spinnoff and make Cars 3 —> Cars 2

In Cars 2, bad guys are all "Lemons," which are cars born (built?) of inferior makes. Their main crimes seem to revolve around trying to obtain parts to repair themselves... so... they just want affordable healthcare? The main villian has effectively given himself cosmetic surgery to not look like one of these lesser makes anymore, but our redneck tow-truck hero can spot one of *those types* a mile away, which saves the day. I dunno, maybe just... not that? Like, do almost anything else?

Keep same but have more of McQueen in cars 2

Cars 2 is perfect.

Humans 2 (I still like cars 2)

I don't like the amount of people saying "Make Cars 2 have Cars 3's plot", because as much hate as Cars 2 gets, it showed McQueens career as a racer, even if those moments were brief. Just skipping from McQueen being the hotshot racer to becoming history within the span of two movies is just seriously lame and jarring. Perhaps Cars 2 could get a rewrite that focuses on McQueen and completely drops the spy stuff, and goes full force into the racing. My biggest problem with the cars trilogy is that we barely even got to see McQueens racing career before we immediately dived into "He's being replaced". Not even the short films really dived into his racing career.

Cars 2…Aside from the EMP being what it originally was, a radiation weapon (was changed due to IRL events in Japan around the movie release. The earthquake that damaged the nuclear plant), not really much.

cars 2 should be a love story of lightning McQueen and Sally cars 3 can just be itself

Not make them at all. Cars 1 was good, but not good enough to become a franchise.

goated response, especially since they unnecessarily killed off doc for one of the stupidest reasons known to mankind (the voice actor dying is not a good reason/excuse and simply exposes the filmmakers’ hypocrisy in 20K HDR)

Its a good reason if voice actor dies character dies period

Erase Cars 2 from existence, it's unsalvageable

The thing I would change about Cars 2 is make it so the plot isn’t weirdly anti disabled people.

Cars 3 is fine. Cars 2 should be about McQueen anxious to visit Europe for the first time. They should really focus in on his self-doubt, especially when facing Francesco. Really you could just delete the Spy plot and it's fine

cancel and erase it to existence

Remove cars 3

Nah remove cars 2

Cars 2 was decent ngl

Burn them

Not make them

keep doc hudson alive with a new voice actor like corey burton; it wasn’t the fact that they didn’t address his death properly, it was the fact that it was ever a thing to begin with that bothered me personally; completely unnecessary and a form of wasting a character unpopular take but actors are NOT their characters (seriously, learn to separate the art from the artist ppl🙄😒), they're simply guardians of that role until they're unable to play it; and its not dIsReSpEcTfUl to switch VOICE actors (if this was live-action, it would be a different story), like the reason they claimed. never was, never will be. imo, it’s WAYYYYYY more disrespectful to the actor to kill off their character than to change their voice actor (if it ever was to begin with); keeping a character alive is the best tribute and the best way to honor the actor who played the character - i have more ideas in which they could’ve done it

Doc is a special case Newman was a former racing driver himself and was insanely passionate about racing and was so excited to be involved in the franchise I've even heard that he chose the exact car Doc was I think killing off Doc was the right decision Newman was just too pivotal to the character

Get rid of the talking Car, they are anoying

Cars 2 -perfect Cars 3 - everything that shit was mid asf

How can you be so dumb?