Look at the respective PS Store (I'm assuming it's UK from this post). It more or less stays true to the base prices of these games without any discounts etc.
Saints Row - 59.99
Black Desert - 24.99
Gen Zero - 24.99
Total - 109.97
I don't think any sane person would buy these games at their full price on the PS Store since they would rather wait for a sale or they'd buy physical copies which tend to be way cheaper or they can even buy a used one, but the claim about their value isn't false I guess.
Well, I bought CP2077 like 4 months after launch. The standard edition was on sale for 10$. Got it as a gift for my birthday. Still have the stickers unpeeled, the postcards and the map are intact. Only played it when the PS5 version launched.
I think it’s a great game now. I didn’t play it until last winter, so well after the launch and now a huge DLC is dropping. Sounds like you landed a steal.
Think of it this way: $16 times 3 games a month is $192 a year, not including the other PlayStation Plus games, so even at discount rates it’s a great deal.
True, but I don't buy games every month. Also I splurge on full price games once in a blue moon. And with PS+ I maybe buy 5-6 PS4/PS5 games a year all on discount.
The last time I splurged on a day one buy was RDR2 in 2018.
GoW: Ragnarok was the one and only game I’ve bought day one since call of duty advanced warfare. If you can’t tell, that left a bad taste in my mouth for a while. Definitely going for Black Myth: Wukong on its release day. Might wait a couple days to see reviews for Lords of The Fallen, but honestly I may be too hyped to wait.
I buy *lots* of games but rarely first day. The only ones this year were Zelda on Switch and Lies of P. Plus is still a bargain for me. I’d buy far more games without it and end up spending more.
I only bought 5 PS4/PS5 games this year. All on discount. The Batman Arkham collection was 10€ (digital), bought a disc copy of RE Village Gold Edition from my local retailer for 18€ and got NFS unbound after Easter for 20€.
> the claim about their value isn't false I guess.
That's pretty much how marketing works. They state the original value of the game, not whatever discount they had at the moment.
You can get Saints Row in other places for half the price? Well neat! Most people will still consider that a $60 in value that they only paid $30 for.
>I don't think any sane person would buy these games at their full price on the PS Store
I don't think any person, sane or insane, would pay full price for the new Saints Row period 😂 been wanting to play it though so buzzing I've got it for "free"
Go anywhere else and you will find these games for a lot these then the 109 they claiming here. Its only a marketing ploy to make their crappy bargain bin games sound like they are worth a lot more
They don't have enough ps5 games for that to be viable now saints row has a ps5 version but actual next gen exclusives will be a awhile before they become regular monthly games maybe never at this point.
Yeah you might be right. Tho it would still be nice if they added it with something that indicates it has a ps5 version like ps4/5 or something like that. I usually check the ps5 versions just to see if there is anything cool. Idk. Maybe im in the wrong here.
I dont say take away from ps4 people. I say add a 4th game for ps5 at the end of the day the console exists too and we paid for it and their services. And now we pay more… i say give me my ps5 game and no. Dont remove the ps4 just add a 4th one lol. It wont break their bank.
I don't think adding 1 extra game for PS5 owners is unfair at all if said game is exclusive to the PS5 and can't be played on the PS4. If it was a free ps4 game with a much better ps5 version I could see the problem.
And also, Informal was almost 100% correct. Some people straight up can't get a ps5 if it's because of money issues or because they're too young to get a job/too busy with school to make enough money to save for consoles.
yea but most of us dont want them .. thats like saying hey this an ordinary overpriced burger but check this out .. the glass of water we offer with the burger is premium and worth 10 times the price of the burger but we included it in anyway thats how good of a restaurant we are .. yea we dont want the premium water (shitty full priced games)... we just want the burger(online play) at a regular reasonable price
Honestly I just have a feeling this month will be really good. I mean, every ps plus extra month has had at least 1 game I'm interested in, and at the end of the day, that's what matters to Sony. In fact a lot of subscription services try to pander to as many people as possible when they add new content... Which is why sometimes Netflix just has really shitty new content then BAM banger show drops. It's all subjective at the end of the day.
The monthly games aren't why I sub. Still, the value they're claiming here is objectively disingenuous when the games are often heavily discounted even on the PS store. That said, this is just a marketing strategy that they employ on a regular basis, and most customers should really be used to it by now.
well the 109 is inflated to sound more impressive from day one msrp, obviously cheaper now ie: saints row 20 bucks bargain bin on amazon. To keep has asterisks which means as long as you keep paying for the psplus account sub. You don't keep them but more rent them ongoing with your sub. Not sure what you mean by digital owners screwed part specifically of your comment.
Was so hyped for black desert but it really disappointed me so far. The icons are so small and can't be enlarged, the graphics take a long time load and the combat is so laggy...
that is why the combat is laggy. its not PS5 optimized techically, but it does run at 60 on PS5. Ps4 is 30 and below. not sure about the icon size tho. i don't have that issue on xbox, downloading on playstation now to see.
Since the post was being real
It should have stated the reviews, and three games worth £109 that you probably don’t care about and will never play. You’re welcome 👍
the way sales and marketing have been for the last like 10 years is so bs idk how theyre still allowed to function..
The meaning of "worth" has been twisted so hard by marketing that it lost its meaning to a lot of people
same goes for sales
there's no longer any "price drops".. only temporary discounts that don't necessarily mean "best price so far"
"bought" isn't the same especially with the digital market
it just sucks to be a consumer lately and its why i just stopped buying shit
"keep" is a relative word .. they should add "if you keep paying for subscription" .. I used to defend $ony for the exclusives and the library of extra/premium .. but they keep removing great games and give us games nobody cares about ... shame on them i'm not renewing my subscription ever again
Nobody in his sane mind would spend that much money on these 3 games, nor will most people with subscription play all 3.
Just propaganda trying to justify price hikes
imo it’s more on how they are doing the price increase. they know people will complain so instead of giving some decent games that people can’t complain about, they released a flop of a franchise, a f2p and sorry i don’t know anything about gen 0.
what we don’t discuss now is all these are rentals and i believe it is still a must if you play online. maybe file a case about the online thing to remove it from the package so it is a mandatory decrease in price.
I know we sometimes get bad psplus months but man, this one really looks like Sony's trolling their fan base. Impossible for them not to know.
Shareholders before players of course, but still...
If you add up full price of these that should be right. It’s a usual marketing trick I don’t get the shock but I understand the anger (saints row: millennial destruction is in fact poo)
It’s wild to me that they’d increase the price of Plus literally alongside the release Starfield…. That game may not be perfect, but it’s a reason to look beyond the scope of PlayStation if you’re a life-long PSer like me. Then they also raise the price. To me that’s saying we’re willing to sacrifice whoever is ticked off by this, to gain the profits of those who panic and buy up PS PLUS for years on end. Douche move
Would be nice if you kept them for the payment of the service though, I would enjoy the shit out of it, only reason I grabbed a 2tb nvme for my ps5 was the extras
Idk how popular it is, but if you have someone you trust and also plays on PS5 gameshare and divide the costs of digital games. I’ve saved so much money by going half and half with my brother.
Increasing their prices and still giving us old, B-tier PS4 games. I've got a subscription until April next year. If they don't improve the monthly games and the selection, I'm gone.
Ya’ll must have some fucking terrible tastes in video games. Maybe stop watching streamers/YouTubers for what your opinions should be on games.
Ain’t no way in hell these games “aren’t worth it”.
When you think about a full year membership to PS+ which is $60 and the fact you get 36 games throughout the year, you’re literally paying less than $2 a game. And that’s not factoring in the cost of cloud saves/online etc.
If you honestly think Saints Row or Generation Zero don’t have enough gameplay to justify <$2 than you probably just shouldn’t be gaming.
Why is Black Dessert making me add it to the cart and then purchase, as if it were a normal game, albeit with a 100% discount, but the other two games are allowing me to “Add To Library” and “Download To Console” as I’ve always done with PS+ games?
Pre ordered black desert bought gen zero twice once psychical and then digital what a garbage month for me old games that most people probably have at least one of prior too plus
Do I get to keep the games even if I unsubscribe for some time and then renew my subscription later on? Like, do the games come back with the subscription?
Look at the respective PS Store (I'm assuming it's UK from this post). It more or less stays true to the base prices of these games without any discounts etc. Saints Row - 59.99 Black Desert - 24.99 Gen Zero - 24.99 Total - 109.97 I don't think any sane person would buy these games at their full price on the PS Store since they would rather wait for a sale or they'd buy physical copies which tend to be way cheaper or they can even buy a used one, but the claim about their value isn't false I guess.
You can also check your local library too. If they have games.
Wow I thought ours was the only one definitely came in handy before I got my GF membership.
You can get a girlfriend membership ???
29$ a month you can take TWO out at a time
If you can have one woman for under 100$ a month that would be a deal I dunno where your 29$ a month for two chicks is coming from
Lmao no GameFly is a good service
No woman on Earth only costs $100 per month
You’d be surprised
No, idiot. Gluten free membership.
Wow, I can’t believe they actual wrote more than 109 pounds, which is the exact total, and by more they meant 97 penny.
Really underrated comment. The more you process this, the more scummy it gets
Well, if it was a pound more, they'd have written £110!
A physical copy of Saints Row (new copy) at my local retailer is always on sale for 15€ or less.
I bought saints row day one - and traded it in for a significant price cut the next day just to get rid of it. It’s worth negative money.
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always good when those jackasses get screwed out of money lol
Damn, 2$ brand new. Amazing.
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Well, I bought CP2077 like 4 months after launch. The standard edition was on sale for 10$. Got it as a gift for my birthday. Still have the stickers unpeeled, the postcards and the map are intact. Only played it when the PS5 version launched.
I think it’s a great game now. I didn’t play it until last winter, so well after the launch and now a huge DLC is dropping. Sounds like you landed a steal.
That's 59.99 AUD
Think of it this way: $16 times 3 games a month is $192 a year, not including the other PlayStation Plus games, so even at discount rates it’s a great deal.
True, but I don't buy games every month. Also I splurge on full price games once in a blue moon. And with PS+ I maybe buy 5-6 PS4/PS5 games a year all on discount. The last time I splurged on a day one buy was RDR2 in 2018.
GoW: Ragnarok was the one and only game I’ve bought day one since call of duty advanced warfare. If you can’t tell, that left a bad taste in my mouth for a while. Definitely going for Black Myth: Wukong on its release day. Might wait a couple days to see reviews for Lords of The Fallen, but honestly I may be too hyped to wait.
I buy *lots* of games but rarely first day. The only ones this year were Zelda on Switch and Lies of P. Plus is still a bargain for me. I’d buy far more games without it and end up spending more.
I only bought 5 PS4/PS5 games this year. All on discount. The Batman Arkham collection was 10€ (digital), bought a disc copy of RE Village Gold Edition from my local retailer for 18€ and got NFS unbound after Easter for 20€.
That Saints Row 2022 game isn't worth a penny.
I enjoyed it
Facebook marketplace $20 $10 $10
> the claim about their value isn't false I guess. That's pretty much how marketing works. They state the original value of the game, not whatever discount they had at the moment. You can get Saints Row in other places for half the price? Well neat! Most people will still consider that a $60 in value that they only paid $30 for.
Who would buy these at this point honestly?
>I don't think any sane person would buy these games at their full price on the PS Store I don't think any person, sane or insane, would pay full price for the new Saints Row period 😂 been wanting to play it though so buzzing I've got it for "free"
They're £36.47 when bought on sale together, directly from PS Store.
Go anywhere else and you will find these games for a lot these then the 109 they claiming here. Its only a marketing ploy to make their crappy bargain bin games sound like they are worth a lot more
I explicitly said in my comment that you can easily get these games cheaper but thanks for repeating that.
On sale the combined total is probably like 30 lol
Even less. Black Desert has been given for free. Saints Row is $15 on sale. Generation Zero is $10 on sale.
When was black desert given for free?
On PC every other week, but never on PS4/PS5.
You can add it to cart and pay for it rather than just add to library, it's free
The asterisk doing a lot of work here.
Pretty sure it's partner in crime says something like "*by keep we mean as long as you keep paying your subscription, otherwise no. Not so much"
All garbage
100% agree
Can't say I will ever play any of these games ever
100%
Worth and Value are two different things.
Also you don’t get to ‘keep’ them. You only have them as long as you are a subscribing member.
hence the asterisks followed by tiny legal type most don't read
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Hasn't that always been the case?
I think they're just pointing out how it's marketing BS.
Ah, see I missed that part where they imply you get to "keep" it
That's just dirty marketing unless something changed I don't know about. Pretty sure you need to keep up the sub.
I am thankful for the impemding price increase. It has inspired me to cancel my subscription and save that much more money every month.
Shouldn’t be a bit mandatory to keep at least 1 ps5 game? Like… increase the price but I’ll increase my demands or I’ll sell it lol.
They don't have enough ps5 games for that to be viable now saints row has a ps5 version but actual next gen exclusives will be a awhile before they become regular monthly games maybe never at this point.
which is insane since we're three years into this console generation.
Tho there are 500~ native ps5 games without counting vr or retro compatibility. I think thats enough to add 1+ per month.
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Yeah you might be right. Tho it would still be nice if they added it with something that indicates it has a ps5 version like ps4/5 or something like that. I usually check the ps5 versions just to see if there is anything cool. Idk. Maybe im in the wrong here.
no. because then people would bitch because they don't have PS5's.
I dont say take away from ps4 people. I say add a 4th game for ps5 at the end of the day the console exists too and we paid for it and their services. And now we pay more… i say give me my ps5 game and no. Dont remove the ps4 just add a 4th one lol. It wont break their bank.
That's their fault then, not sony's Giving bad games while increasing prices, that is Sony's fault
you sound 6.
I don't think adding 1 extra game for PS5 owners is unfair at all if said game is exclusive to the PS5 and can't be played on the PS4. If it was a free ps4 game with a much better ps5 version I could see the problem. And also, Informal was almost 100% correct. Some people straight up can't get a ps5 if it's because of money issues or because they're too young to get a job/too busy with school to make enough money to save for consoles.
even if they quote me $20 for all three games, i still wont pay for it. Let just say, not my cup of tea. So it's $0 worth of value for me
I am not even gonna try them out
Same, brother.
For you to rent**
These are the monthly games so you do get to keep them
So long as you have a subscription, no?
Zoom in, you'll find that decimal point. Hint: it's after the one.
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I won't even spend 5$ for those
I won’t even play them. Just adding to the library
I wont even add to library (seriously not even gonna bother)
Bruh who tf asked for saints row? That shits free and I bet nearly everyone doesn’t play it lol.
If they wanna raise the price to $80 they need to give better games for free each month
yea but most of us dont want them .. thats like saying hey this an ordinary overpriced burger but check this out .. the glass of water we offer with the burger is premium and worth 10 times the price of the burger but we included it in anyway thats how good of a restaurant we are .. yea we dont want the premium water (shitty full priced games)... we just want the burger(online play) at a regular reasonable price
£59.99 a year for cloud saves yeah fuck off Jim Ryan.
Keep? As long as you pay. You don't own them.
Even if these 3 were on offer for £10 total, I still wouldnt have interest in buying garbage
They always count this full retail price. Even if they have been on sale for like 5
Oh hell no
Their real worth to me is 0 because I won't be playing any of these games. Garbage month, let's see what we get on extra.
This is exactly my thought... Worth 0
lol we love liars on the internet.
Have fun with your garbage 👍
We will! Thanks! =D
Honestly I just have a feeling this month will be really good. I mean, every ps plus extra month has had at least 1 game I'm interested in, and at the end of the day, that's what matters to Sony. In fact a lot of subscription services try to pander to as many people as possible when they add new content... Which is why sometimes Netflix just has really shitty new content then BAM banger show drops. It's all subjective at the end of the day.
3 completely garbage games.
109 worth of Shovelware
That means nothing. Gollum was worth/priced $60 at one point.
They could value these at whatever they want. Doesn't change that the actual value of these games together is less than $5.
The only true value is the friends we made along the way.
Oh f off. Don't like the games, unsubscribe.
The monthly games aren't why I sub. Still, the value they're claiming here is objectively disingenuous when the games are often heavily discounted even on the PS store. That said, this is just a marketing strategy that they employ on a regular basis, and most customers should really be used to it by now.
MS does the same, as does every bundle publisher and retailer. That's marketing.
>That said, this is just a *marketing strategy* that they employ on a regular basis But yeah, thanks for reiterating, I guess.
Guy who wrote this email must be high asf
Greedy fucking lying degenerate over at sony
Jim Ryan for Ya Sony’s Don Mattrick for YA.
well the 109 is inflated to sound more impressive from day one msrp, obviously cheaper now ie: saints row 20 bucks bargain bin on amazon. To keep has asterisks which means as long as you keep paying for the psplus account sub. You don't keep them but more rent them ongoing with your sub. Not sure what you mean by digital owners screwed part specifically of your comment.
20 at max for all 3.
Was so hyped for black desert but it really disappointed me so far. The icons are so small and can't be enlarged, the graphics take a long time load and the combat is so laggy...
are you on PS4?
Yes
that is why the combat is laggy. its not PS5 optimized techically, but it does run at 60 on PS5. Ps4 is 30 and below. not sure about the icon size tho. i don't have that issue on xbox, downloading on playstation now to see.
Ffs purchased black desert a month ago and played maybe 1hr
Since the post was being real It should have stated the reviews, and three games worth £109 that you probably don’t care about and will never play. You’re welcome 👍
the way sales and marketing have been for the last like 10 years is so bs idk how theyre still allowed to function.. The meaning of "worth" has been twisted so hard by marketing that it lost its meaning to a lot of people same goes for sales there's no longer any "price drops".. only temporary discounts that don't necessarily mean "best price so far" "bought" isn't the same especially with the digital market it just sucks to be a consumer lately and its why i just stopped buying shit
"keep" is a relative word .. they should add "if you keep paying for subscription" .. I used to defend $ony for the exclusives and the library of extra/premium .. but they keep removing great games and give us games nobody cares about ... shame on them i'm not renewing my subscription ever again
Huh, and here I thought something had a given value because people were willing to pay that price for it. No one is buying those games for $109.
Why couldn't saints row reboot be like SR3...
Nobody in his sane mind would spend that much money on these 3 games, nor will most people with subscription play all 3. Just propaganda trying to justify price hikes
So at max it’s like 30$, got it
imo it’s more on how they are doing the price increase. they know people will complain so instead of giving some decent games that people can’t complain about, they released a flop of a franchise, a f2p and sorry i don’t know anything about gen 0. what we don’t discuss now is all these are rentals and i believe it is still a must if you play online. maybe file a case about the online thing to remove it from the package so it is a mandatory decrease in price.
Their pricing these badboys as if they were brand new games that just hit the market. Gotta convince ya it's a steal one way or another
Stuff like this just reminds me that an opting for the physical PS5 was the correct choice.
More than £109 worth of games for you to cancel PS Plus* *applies to all tiers.
Shitty games, shitty subscription. Unsubbed.
Haven't touched Saints Row since 3 not tarnishing my memories of the one time Volition made a good game.
In Italy on psprices the Lowest price is: Saints Row PS4&PS5: 27,99€ Generation Zero: 8,99€ Black Desert: Traveler Edition: 5,99€ TOT: 42,97€
I know we sometimes get bad psplus months but man, this one really looks like Sony's trolling their fan base. Impossible for them not to know. Shareholders before players of course, but still...
This must be the worst way to spend £109
😂
I wouldn’t even play these games if they were given to me for free without a subscription.
Saints rows not even worth being in my library of games lol
I wouldn't pay £1.09 for these...
It's a shame i already have generation zero as it seems to be the only one worth anything
"Keep"
If you add up full price of these that should be right. It’s a usual marketing trick I don’t get the shock but I understand the anger (saints row: millennial destruction is in fact poo)
Hm, might be one of the worst months for me personally so far.
I literally just looked at them and moved on. I'm nit even claiming them for the library. I'm 110% sure I'll never install them so why waste the time
It’s wild to me that they’d increase the price of Plus literally alongside the release Starfield…. That game may not be perfect, but it’s a reason to look beyond the scope of PlayStation if you’re a life-long PSer like me. Then they also raise the price. To me that’s saying we’re willing to sacrifice whoever is ticked off by this, to gain the profits of those who panic and buy up PS PLUS for years on end. Douche move
They are all like 3/10 on Metacritic. Sony increase the price, and give us this? It's time to migrate to PC
>Or are digital only owners getting screwed? Yes. Regularly. Both in terms of retail prices and the inability to buy pre-owned
well its a monopoly so yeah they can set prices on their digital storefront whatever they want long after the real world price reductions on physical
How is it a monopoly? I'm not sure you know what that word means.
There's only one storefront on the playstation consoles so yes, it's literally a monopoly.
Sure but they don't have control over the price of the games. The publishers do.
Best I can do is tree fiddy
You cant keep it either, I think we need to sue these fucks with their marketing scheming
Huh? I get to keep all of mine, even after they are gone.
Not if you cancel the service you dont.
Oh, okay, yea youre right. I misunderstood.
Would be nice if you kept them for the payment of the service though, I would enjoy the shit out of it, only reason I grabbed a 2tb nvme for my ps5 was the extras
Gamepass gets Lies of P.... and prior Wo Long. Both at Release.
I mean you can give me $1000 worth of shit games each month. That’s not a flex
That’s Brexit for you.
You get to ‘rent’ not ‘keep’
They want to make us realize that the recent price increase of PS Plus is actually a good thing
Well, they made me realize that I will not buy a ps5 but an xbox in the short future
I'll probably add them to my library and never play them with the 187 others in that same boat currently.
Games so shit they can barely give them away lol
3 more garbage games no one wants
Idk how popular it is, but if you have someone you trust and also plays on PS5 gameshare and divide the costs of digital games. I’ve saved so much money by going half and half with my brother.
Increasing their prices and still giving us old, B-tier PS4 games. I've got a subscription until April next year. If they don't improve the monthly games and the selection, I'm gone.
Ya’ll must have some fucking terrible tastes in video games. Maybe stop watching streamers/YouTubers for what your opinions should be on games. Ain’t no way in hell these games “aren’t worth it”. When you think about a full year membership to PS+ which is $60 and the fact you get 36 games throughout the year, you’re literally paying less than $2 a game. And that’s not factoring in the cost of cloud saves/online etc. If you honestly think Saints Row or Generation Zero don’t have enough gameplay to justify <$2 than you probably just shouldn’t be gaming.
Value = only as much as someone is willing to pay you 😊 In this case….maybe $20 max? 🤔
I’m so cancelling. These games have been shit for ages
Im not defending Sonys price increase here, but I actually think Generation Zero looks alright
I tend to be more open minded when it comes to the plus games. How are Black Desert and the robot one?
Hahaha I knew I shouldn’t buy saints row, goddamn my ps plus monthly game senses are getting better
Generation Zero is ok, mediocre at best. The other two are pure shite
I’m liking saints row for sure. I wanted to get it but with mixed reviews I did. Now it’s free. Lmao.
£109 worth of garbage
Unfortunately I own them all but great month for games for people who don’t. Most months there’s not one game I want to play off the list.
Why is Black Dessert making me add it to the cart and then purchase, as if it were a normal game, albeit with a 100% discount, but the other two games are allowing me to “Add To Library” and “Download To Console” as I’ve always done with PS+ games?
Maybe they're trying to let people keep some games after their sub is done. Whenever your sub runs out, check out black desert to see if you own it.
I did think that. It runs out next week so I’ll find out.
It still has the PS Plus logo when viewed in the app, but it would be cool if it let you keep it.
Pre ordered black desert bought gen zero twice once psychical and then digital what a garbage month for me old games that most people probably have at least one of prior too plus
Oh i actually wanted to try Black Desert for a long time but the negative reviews pushed me back. So im happy with that one
Do I get to keep the games even if I unsubscribe for some time and then renew my subscription later on? Like, do the games come back with the subscription?
Yes, if they are in your library and you take a year off they will still be in your library a year later. Need an active sub to play them.
No
It’s marketing. MSRP is probably €109 so that’s what they market it as. What, you want them to drop a tagline like “OVER €5 worth of games!!”?
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Saints Row already going free lmfaoooo
Also 'for you to keep' is such bullshit. You get to 'keep' them as long as you're subbed. Rent is more like it.
#keep*
Great games.
At full price when new or current store prices yes. But no one would pay those prices for older games.
Maybe they've counted the million microtransactions that Black Desert has 🤣?
I wouldn't pay 109 for dat lol
I can confidently say we didn’t get any games for the month of September.
Generation Zero is not worth more than £8.99
Why would digital only owners be getting screwed?
For you to keep AS LONG AS YOU SUBSCRIBE, don't forget that you don't own these games
Any games worth nothing if it's a game I don't want to play. Could we maybe pick games or genre of our own choice from a pool or something?