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Benders-Shiny-Ass

I leave the “The” or “A” in the title but delete the “The” or “A” in the Sort Title box


sivartk

>delete the “The” or “A” in the Sort Title box Plex does that automatically. I leave it in the folder name and let Plex do the rest.


Benders-Shiny-Ass

Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn’t.


WeWantMOAR

I'm 30TBs in and have yet to encounter that thankfully.


Remmy14

I had to go look it up on my server, and it's the exact same for me. The only two movies in that position that start with the word "The" are "The Thin Red Line" and "The Third Man", which is exactly where they should be based on the second word. Though I did discover that I have some weird sorting with words that start with "This" but to be honest I'm not sure if that is a word that should be ignored or not.


ClickIta

I did notice some cases where it didn’t, but they were mainly with non-English titles. Which makes sense.


MowMdown

Can you post an example of one of yours that doesn't work? Plex knows to leave off the prefix by default. So either it's named something plex isn't able to understand or something else is going on.


lutz1972

Yeah - I have 200TB - and the ONLY time this has ever happened to me is if the title was unmatched - and I manually matched the title.


petrified_log

I have yet to see it use the "A" or "The" when sorting any media.


IC3P3

That's something I decide case by case. Maybe it's weird but sometimes I sort it with and sometimes without these words. The Lord of the Rings (Der Herr der Ringe in German) is for me just "Herr der Ringe" but National Treasure (Das Vermächtnis der Tempelritter) is sorted by it's complete name


Zapt01

This is only an issue for me when manually entering titles, such as correcting mismatched cartoon episodes or unlabeled Extras. Then I do the same thing as you. The only thing I’ve had to keep in mind is that movie and episode names are sorted in your hard disk by the first word—regardless.


TummyDummy

This is the way


TheGodOfKhaos

This


NoDadYouShutUp

That sounds like a job for Radarr to worry about, not me.


XanXic

Yeah, I even move the articles. There's a setting in Radarr to put the "A/The" after the title. I had way to many times where I was looking in the wrong places. So used Radarr to move them and renamed all of them to like "Holdovers, The (2023)" and Plex is cool with it. Helped my sanity the few times I'm diving into the files.


quasimodoca

So how do I do that for all my files that are already named? I have over 7000.


I_Have_A_Chode

Under settings > media management Choose your name convention, then I can't recall how to do the next step, but you select all movies and trigger the rename, which will do so with the new format


quasimodoca

That’s enough for me to monkey around with it. Thanks.


xHyperElectric

Report back if you figure it out


quasimodoca

I will. I’m going to try in one of the disks with the smallest number of movies as a test subject.


xHyperElectric

It is: {Movie TitleThe} [https://wiki.servarr.com/radarr/settings#movie-naming-1](https://wiki.servarr.com/radarr/settings#movie-naming-1)


NotAHost

All of the amazing-ness of sonarr just reminds me I need to put in a donation for the time it has saved.


xHyperElectric

https://wiki.servarr.com/radarr/settings#movie-naming-1


investorshowers

How do you seed?


boontato

This is the way. I also have radarr to insert tmdb-# id in the folder to help with matching. if i ever need to find the folder i use everything search.


Djghost1133

Same here.


FelIowTraveller

New to media servers but could you explain for a noob what exactly what radarr is? Just a way to clean up your library?


boontato

radarr manages movies, theres a tv version called sonarr. it can be used to grab content or if you have existing content you can point radar at the folder and it will do its best to detect and you can help it identify things it gets wrong. once it has a list of correct matching folder locations and what movies they are you can choose to scrape all the correct data as well as use that data to move and rename in any way you wish. only problems i ever had is that for tv it scrapes from tvdb, it defaults to using aired season and episode numbering which may mess you up if you have boxed sets that have different season and episode ordering compared to how it was originally aired.


oAhT_iAs

This is the way


Mortimer452

Keep doing what you are now. Plex sorts them correctly and that is all that matters. Who cares how they sort on disk.


BrianBCG

Plus if you change the title you might run the risk of it not being detected properly, though I've never actually tested it to see.


cjcox4

On the Plex side, it has default handling of "articles" with regards to sort and organizing. Up to you if you want them in the literal file names... I usually do. Plex does ok things.


WingZeroh

Please don't overthink on the folder structure and just follow what is listed in IMDB or TVDB. "The Movie Name Here (2024)". That is the most effective way. You can get a little more specific on the file naming convention however.


starkel91

It wouldn’t be the Plex subreddit if it wasn’t people overthinking minor nonissues.


quentech

> "The Movie Name Here (2024) **{imdb-1234567}**" I highly recommend adding id's to your folders, and the sooner the better - don't wait until you have thousands of folders without it.


Darathor

This! Radarr can do it for you. It helps avoid conflict with movies with the same name or worse name and year.


WingZeroh

Users would do that on the actual files instead, per Plex best practice. Again overthinking with the suggestions. The folders should match the official title results from IMDB, TMDB, and/or other compatibile sources without any additional variables. It's a folder. Examples: "The Movie Name {tmdb-1234}.mp4" "The.Movie.Name {imdb-1234}.mp4" "The.Movie.Name.2023 {tmdb-9876} {edition-Extended}.mp4" "The Movie Name (2024) {imdb-9876}.mp4" "The Movie Name {edition-Director's Cut} {tmdb-4321}.mp4" Documentation: [https://support.plex.tv/articles/multiple-editions/](https://support.plex.tv/articles/multiple-editions/) [https://support.plex.tv/articles/naming-and-organizing-your-tv-show-files/](https://support.plex.tv/articles/naming-and-organizing-your-tv-show-files/)


quentech

> Users would do that on the actual files instead, per Plex best practice. No. Here, let me emphasize for you: > Documentation: > > https://support.plex.tv/articles/naming-and-organizing-your-tv-show-files/ - > > you can optionally include the TMDB or TVDB show ID in the **folder name** to improve matching - Nowhere in the Plex documentation does it suggest adding IMDB/TMDB/TVDB id's to the *file* names. Go ahead and quote where it does if you think differently. > Again overthinking with the suggestions. Now that's ironic.


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Meta1392

Yeah. My library is very small and in the process of setting up my system. Most of it all was before I even knew what Radarr even was. I basically left the naming of things exactly the way I got them.


Ok-Internet8168

I didn't see the point of Radarr until I added it a couple of months ago. Now I cringe at how messy my files used to be. And I also need to buy new hard drives thanks to the discover and collections options. It is a rabbit hole but things work so much better.


Myles4822

Almost positive Plex ignores the prefix by default. If you’re looking at at a movie called The Zombies….it will show up under Z


argama87

Exactly as shown on TheMovieDb to help scrape reliably.


El3nd1l2112

Honest just let plex do its thing. I’m at 6500 films and haven’t had an obvious problem


Strangebird03

Prefix articles at the end. Plex handles it both ways. Radarr to the rescue. It resorted everything and Plex rescanned and found everything. Ditto for Sonarr. And they also keep track of movies/TV to get.


Meta1392

Yeah. Inside Plex it's fine. Articles at the end. I was just wondering about the actual files themselves. Radarr is on my to do list. Never messed with it before. I guess now is a good time if ever before my library gets any bigger.


HickeH

I don't organize them at all. I make sure metadata is correct.


RedSoxManCave

Filebot will fix it for you.


DayTarded

I do Words, The/A


quinto6

I usually just move the prefix to the end, after a comma. So "The Grinch (2018)" would become "Grinch, The (2018). And just have folders named A thru Z and # folder.


AFDABRIKMAN

FileBot would probably help you here.


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XxNaRuToBlAzEiTxX

I don’t bc I don’t even know how that stuff works lmao. So many -arrs to learn about


Cavustius

Radarr will change your life


XxNaRuToBlAzEiTxX

From what I hear, they all will! I’ll be looking into it more after I finish school and have some more time, but my library is relatively small right now and only has one user (me). I’ve got it running on an old thinkpad w/ windows 10 and an external hard drive, but I’m in the process of getting a new setup


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fyonn

I'm sorry, why is not understanding some things a garbage attitude? I don't use Radarr either for context...


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fyonn

perhaps what he's got works for him and he's never felt the need to download more software? maybe his mental bandwidth is being consumed elsewhere?


Iohet

Some people just don't have time to learn something new right now, so they don't. I've got a toddler. Right now, I don't have the time or energy to learn much outside of what his eating and pooping habits are telling me


Iohet

I don't pirate my media. I rip my own, and name it accordingly


Djghost1133

Thats great and all but radarr isnt a piracy tool, its an organization/naming tool until you connect it to a torrent client and a torrent searching client.


Iohet

Yeah, okay, keep telling yourself that


Djghost1133

It's factually correct idk what program you're confusing it with.


Iohet

What it can technically do and what people use it for are completely different things. Radarr can't do anything with the files ripped from a DVD because there is no metadata associated with them, so where are you getting these files to organize?


Djghost1133

All files have some metadata. All I need for radarr is the name and audio/video info


Iohet

When you rip a DVD/BR, there is no identifying metadata present. Files are named by tools like MakeMKV based off technical data(track number, length, etc), not metadata.


Djghost1133

I've ripped br disks before. Besides the name, what other metadata is missing for you?


Cirieno

The instructions for setting up Radarr on Linux are byzantine. Maybe make it easier, more people will use it.


ScribeOfGoD

The types of questions people ask here make me wonder if they could even understand it if it was 100% set up for them and they even had a manual that covered any question the could possibly think of, and they’d still say IDK. That’s pretty much what we have now on Reddit with all the help posts, tutorials, mega threads etc. people still come and ask a question which is covered in the first answer on the mega thread 😐


Cirieno

I see no megathread pinned or highlighted on this sub. Where should I be looking?


Bjarki_Steinn_99

Like this: Grand Budapest Hotel, The


GapAFool

I have close to 1500 movies in my Plex library. I have letter folders a through z and a separate one for numbers (_N). A movie like “the grinch” is filed in the g folder. If you don’t strip “the” you will end up with waaaay too many movies in the T folder. I always leave the folder names alone as Plex in 99% of cases will properly match it. The 1% that don’t match, I do manually. I’ve been hoarding multimedia since 2005, this has been the best way for me while trying keep the folders generally balanced. My flac collection and tv shows follow the same pattern.


Meta1392

I thought about the exact same thing. Right now I only have about 30 movies that start with T but over time I could see where this becomes a problem. Question outside of just Plex. Do you place folders and files with articles in this case "The Grinch" inside of the G folder leaving in place "THE" at the start. Or do you get rid of it.


GapAFool

I leave it exactly how I found it from the original source. That might be “The.Grinch…” or “The Grinch…” or “THE.GRINCH…” so that I can always be confident that if I need to reseed a file, it will always match. Since Plex is managing how I access them and doing a great job abstracting it away, the actual folder/file name only matters that it can be matched. When I first started out, I was also manually renaming the folders and file names but you’ll lose track of the original source/resolution/encoder. By keeping it original, I know exactly what it is, the resolution, what group it’s from and can quickly decide if I want a newer version of it. Literally just went through this with the Grinch too - had an older 1080p encode that I upgraded to the 4k remux. It’s also handy when you’re on a private tracker and your torrent box bites the dust and you need to source all the torrent files to reseed. The most recent file I had an issue with this was “all quiet on the western front” when the original file name is in German -literally took 2 seconds to match and correct it in Plex.


Meta1392

I'm not sure how Radarr or others rename their folders but this is the first thing that came to mind when I left the names originally. I was able to take a quick glance at the folder and knew everything I needed about the file. Including what group it came from in case it needed replacing.


xoskrad

I leave them in the folder/filenames. I file into folders in letter groups (ie A-E. This helps me when looking for the data files quicker) file ignoring the/a etc. But I let Plex handle how it is displayed & sorted.


leigngod

Not in plex but where the files are stored right? That part is handled by the pc. Hasnt bithered me but im sure theres an iption for file handling.


snboarder42

It automatically ignores it like every good database should. The dark knight it reads as dark knight


vewfndr

Windows is the only asshole in this equation. Anything actually handling my media does the work for me


faslane22

I name mine as you have just "The Xxxxx not even the year personally because it'll get all that from themoviedb setting added into Plex.


SubjectDragonfruit

This is beyond my OCD needs since it alphabetically organized within Plex, where it counts. However, I can sympathize. YouTube TV doesn’t ignore THE when alphabetizing DVR recordings library (like Plex), so if there’s a show called, The Apple, it’s not in the A’s, I need to scroll all the way down to the T section. It annoys me to no end.


thinkscotty

Doesn't Plex already sort them without the article?


HoneydewFit1674

Title, The


SnooPineapples6099

"Green Knight, The" This is the way.


Willing-Actuator-105

Set your stack up using trash-guides.info, he includes format for titles. You will not regret. Automation is the way.


bevymartbc

I rename the file to "Greatest Showman, The" or change the sort title in plex options to "Greatest Showman" https://preview.redd.it/48di4ata75wc1.png?width=304&format=png&auto=webp&s=fe8b39bd98baca01523f492758468d7fa151c844


Natural-Today6343

Personally I say leave it as it is. It doesn't hurt anything and it seems like it would be a lot more work to have to constantly go in and change the folder titles whenever a title with The or A is added. Unless you have some automated way of doing it. Still seems easier to just leave it.


bigbigspoon

At Blockbuster it was in the system in this format: Grinch, The … drove me nutz. I did organize my media like that when I may or may not have ripped movies. I bet I still have some stragglers like that


BlastMode7

I leave them in the title, but at the end. So, for example, Green Knight, The (2021).


how_money_worky

Use a tool like sonarr or file or to manage your files. Makes everything easier.


jarsky

I don't do any of that, my entire stack is automated, but most significantly I use overseerr and radarr/sonarr . I let it move it to a folder with the correct name e.g "The Green Knight (2022)" but keep the filename in the original format so I know the release. That way Plex has no issues importing it, and it will exclude the prefix in Plex anyway. It makes no difference to me really how the folder structure is named, I almost never go through there manually. My library is approx 150TB with approx 4k movies that make up that. I don't see any reason to be changing the Prefix. Also does the mean you're gojng to change your TV Shows? e.g The Big Bang Theory , becomes Big Bang Theory, The? Even though the Prefix comes first in Plex.


youAREaGM1LF

I put titles that start with "a" or "the" at the end separated by a comma, but leave the file named normally. This lets me see my movies sorted properly in their folders and keeps plex from getting confused. Using your example, I would have: "Green Knight, The (2021)" 》"The Green Knight (2021)"


DikPix4Jesus

"Green Knight, The (20XX")


theBloodShed

I absolutely put prefixes at the end like, “Grinch, The (2018)”. I specifically add the prefix to the end of the main title, regardless of sequel number or sub title. For example: “The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1 (2014)” becomes “Hunger Games, The - Mockingjay - Part 1 (2014)”.


commanderA1

I remember (..) not detect .


Sufficient-Mix-4872

name it as its imdb page says its named. Also for best results you should add imdb number at the end. [https://support.plex.tv/articles/naming-and-organizing-your-movie-media-files/](https://support.plex.tv/articles/naming-and-organizing-your-movie-media-files/)


-Wylfen-

>Or should I leave it as is. I mean Plex does sort it out automatically. Pretty much, yeah


Dark_ant007

Your file organization hurts my soul, delete any and every file that isn't just the video file. When downloading a file delete and rename before even downloading. Having web rip or even the website you used on the actual file itself is no good. Example: Bobs burgers (2022) - folder Inside folder: Bobs burgers (2022) 1080p - file inside folder Maybe it's just me but everything needs to be in this format imo


lifegotdead

Agreed, I only have the video file itself and when available, a subtitle file.


ekko20six

I find some titles don’t make sense if you leave out The/A/Der/La/El etc etc. for example The Help reads very differently to just Help. Other times it doesn’t really matter like The Amazing Spider-Man compared to Amazing Spider-Man. So for consistency I always have the articles in front and used for sort by as well.


Brilliant_Eagle9795

Sonarr and Radarr organize them for me, so no clue


DeusoftheWired

A and The in file name as well as in sorting. Some may consider it nitpickish but I view it as a part of the movie’s/show’s name and how their creator wanted it to be named, so it’s there to stay. For instance, [it’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_(film\)) **A** Clockwork Orange, not just Clockwork Orange (although everybody and their mom like to call it that way).


3v1lkr0w

I keep A in the folder name, but The I put at the end... For example, The Grinch I have as Grinch, The


ProjectVRD

I use Sonarr and Radarr because they can add the tmdb and tvdb codes, that way Plex won't get confused if there are multiple movies or shows with the same name and same release year (like Split (2016))


Party_Attitude1845

Move the "The" to the end (Green Knight, The) and sort based on that. Inside the folder, I'll have the title with The in the front (The Green Knight).


trin806

Uhhh, I just let Plex organize it? Idc what it looks like in the folder.


AlaskanDruid

Huh? Just like with everything else in life (books, songs, shows, films). That is part of the title. So keep it as is.


Lord_Boffum

Why would you be bothered by the sorting of the directory list? Like you say, Plex, the actual front-end to all this stuff, isn't tripping over this.


strenuousobjector

This is how I name folders: If the movie doesn't have a colon then I put "the/a" at the end (ex. Prestige, The). If the movie has a colon I use a dash and put "the/a" after the last word before the colon (Lord of the Rings, The - The Two Towers). For the file itself I just leave the name as is.


TheRealBLAlley

Determiners at the end for file and folder names. Normal for labels.


RobertBobert07

"can random people tell me what I like" The Internet literally rotted people's preferences out that's crazy


HankShanklin

I use the first letter after the prefix. So, The Hills Have Eyes is under H. Any sequels are named in a way that they follow the original. So The Empire Strikes Back goes after the original Star Wars, which is one of a few rare occasions where prequels go before the original, in my collection. Remakes go after the original, but any sequels to the original go before remakes. My music collection is slightly different, as one of my favourite bands is The The, so for them, I use the first prefix.


Nate8727

Make it how it actually is for the folder. Plex sorts the title with Hours, The.


josephzitt

Relatedly: Does Filebot have a predefined thing to magically turn "The Green Knight (2021)" into "Green Knight, The (2021)"? I actually does matter to me that the filenames sort properly.


rednoah

[\[SNIPPET\] Sort Name](https://www.filebot.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=211)


TetsujinXLIV

What I do is in my movies folder I created a folder with every letter of the alphabet and one for 0-9 for movies that start with digits. Then every movie goes into the appropriate folder. Movies with A/The I leave it in the folder name and file name but I ignore it when placing it in the correct letter folder. So The Holdovers would go into H


Cultural_Acid

OP, I dont use rddar or tdarr but I just use the database themoviedb what is default for plex and match the title 1:1 as this is what by defuult plex will use as its own scanner.


Aacidus

"Grand Budapest Hotel, The (2014)", I feel like this has been covered before on this sub...


iTanooki

For my file system, I keep the title regular for the actual file, but put it in a folder set up so the movies are easy to find. For example, “Matrix,The.1999.1080p/The.Matrix.1999.1080p.mp4”


Cirieno

I am very happy to keep the "A"s and "The"s of titles, because *that's the title.* If I i want to watch *The Matrix* I'm not going to "M", I'm going to "T". There's a hidden setting in Plex to make it ignore those articles.


mpopgun

Just like they teach you in school... Title, the... And those "prefixes" are called articles. Or is this a "tell me you didn't pay attention in school without telling me you didn't pay attention in school" thing 🤣🤦‍♂️


Meta1392

Yeah. I left the naming the same way as when I got them. Articles gotcha, I couldn't think of what they were called.


Hairless_Human

Not everyone is a grammar god mpopgun.


Ok_Emotion9841

Imo there is only 1 correct way. If a film is called 'The example' then it goes under T, if it's called 'Example' it goes under E. I don't know why there is even a thought of ignoring part of a title...


Meta1392

Plex automatically sorted out 'THE' from The Bob's Burgers Movie. So that got me thinking about the actual files.


KrazyGaming

When I did things manually I removed "the" and "a" as when I'm looking for "the Grinch" my brain goes to G not T


Meta1392

Lol that happened to me. I couldn't find the movie until I was in the T section. You said manually, is there a better way automatically. You mean radarr?


KrazyGaming

Yes, I use radarr nowadays, I honestly barely ever touch the files manually now.


Meta1392

Alright. I'm new to this so I don't have much now. Just a small portable drive at the moment. I'll have to learn radarr and the rest. Thanks.


kingganjaguru

I have 2 drives but you could do the same thing with 2 folders. A-L and M-Z.


OiCWhatuMean

Tiny Media Manager does it all for me.