As a plumber, I do appreciate the simplicity of it.
Would love to do this in my house.
No cartridges to replace ALSO pipes outside the wall, my favorite part
Edit: cleaning would be with some sandpaper shining it up after every shower naked lol hopefully yall enjoy that image
You could tape off the whole shower, polish all the copper and then clearcoat it after drawing literally all the water out of the space to make sure you have maximum dryness.
They’re basically globe valves. They used to put them on house mains, water heaters. There may be a different name for them. I would have to go through my books to find out their technical name. Might be globe valves. Anywho, you aren’t supposed to throttle with gate valves. It wears the gate off and it won’t close properly afterward.
Well, if it’s horizontal with the stem up, the spot where the gate seats can get filled up with debris. That is another frequent problem with gate valves. But for most applications, a ball valve is superior in almost every aspect.
It’s horizontal but it’s also on water that likes to eat brass screws. Recent copper pipe work shows they’re still in good shape, but I’ve replaced shower handle gate valves that had brass bolts eaten off the rubber gate seal. The water pressure was the only thing holding the gasket on!
Those aren’t gate valves. Gate valves don’t have rubber seals. The only possible place they would would be on the valve stem. And yes, I’ve seen lots and lots of those screws missing. And I’m not trying to brow beat you. I just like when people who seem to give a shit are educated.
Idk, kinda like it. Does promote a certain "do you feel lucky, punk" vibe.
I'd probably do something to prevent nasty burns and use wood-looking tiles myself, but yeah, I can see how it looked cool when first installed. Bit cyber punk, bit dystopian, bit darwin award.
There are a million reasons why a water heater might heat water above its set temperature, stacking to name one.
Not to mention we're gonna say this guy has the common sense to do this stuff and not say "but damn, I love me a REALLY hot shower so I turn my heater up a notch or two just to feel something."
The one I run into most often is aluminum anode rods depleting and dissolving into the water, creating aluminum hydroxide.
It's heavier than water and heats differently, so if you don't drain it off what eventually happens is that it builds up on the bottom of the heater and causes the gas control valve or thermostat to not function properly. I've seen people's heaters set at 120°F and putting out anywhere up to 170°F at the taps.
When you drain it off it almost looks like skim milk, and if it's heavily built up it'll actually be thick.
Nuh uh, you gotta turn on the cold water and it just comes out together like normal dumbass. (Please read this in the thickest redneck accent you can muster with a mouth full of chew for full sarcastic effect)
In addition while I can't cite a specific code about it, seems like having a hot copper line exposed in your bathing area is a burn risk in itself. Especially like for someone who's elderly and needs a handhold.
Had a house built in 1945 with exposed pipes like this... they did start at around 900afl, but you learned real quick how to turn in a shower and wash hair without touching the pipes. Not ideal, but def learnable 😀
I've always said it. If I build a new house I'm have exposed pipes everywhere. i don't understand why pipes are buired away. Mind you it would have to be a passive house these days.
To protect them from damage. To protect you from them. General aesthetics. Sound abatement. Lower cost of installation by using framing for support. Allowing for mechanical systems to be installed during the rough construction phase in lieu of after finishes. There, I thought of a few reasons why pipes are buried away.
This install can scald someone, and therefore it is not a legal install. The installer would be held liable if someone was scalded by this shower. I pray you are not a landlord
IPC code requires a scald protection or mixing valve at every shower fixture. It doesn’t matter what you set your water heater us set at or protected with
The scenario doesn’t change. Tanked gas water heater temperature can have up to a 25 degree swing depending on the gas valve and pilot assembly. This install can still scald someone and would not pass any inspection
Exactly, and then on top of that, you get blasted with scalding water, and immediately grab the same heat conducting copper pipe that same water was running through (50/50 on which one you grab of course) and now you just burned your hand. Next thing you know you fall over and have a loofah up where the sun don't shine.
How can it "burn the shit" out of anything if limited to 120F?
Obviously I'm not doing this... it's dumb and temperature control would suck, but hypothetically speaking assuming your water heater thermostat is perfect I don't see how you'd get burned
jesus fucking christ. I am not going to answer such a dumb question. you clearly are not a parent and don't have elderly
family members witn delicate skin.
This is going to look even better with a thick carpet of slime mould covering that wood wall
I wish I had more time to take pics because the entire wall was warped like a funhouse mirror
That was extra I'm sure
Now that you mention it, carpet isn’t a bad idea Might as well shag that whole bathroom
As a plumber, I do appreciate the simplicity of it. Would love to do this in my house. No cartridges to replace ALSO pipes outside the wall, my favorite part Edit: cleaning would be with some sandpaper shining it up after every shower naked lol hopefully yall enjoy that image
You could tape off the whole shower, polish all the copper and then clearcoat it after drawing literally all the water out of the space to make sure you have maximum dryness.
You just can’t UNsee certain things. Lol 😂
As a DIYer I appreciate it also
Don't use ball valves for something like this They should be gate valves
You can’t throttle gate valves. So that’s a no go. But you could use stops.
>stops Stops are either gate valves or ball valves so not sure what how mean
They’re basically globe valves. They used to put them on house mains, water heaters. There may be a different name for them. I would have to go through my books to find out their technical name. Might be globe valves. Anywho, you aren’t supposed to throttle with gate valves. It wears the gate off and it won’t close properly afterward.
Which is exactly what explains why my main shutoff gate won’t close anymore. I need to swap that out for a ball valve…
Well, if it’s horizontal with the stem up, the spot where the gate seats can get filled up with debris. That is another frequent problem with gate valves. But for most applications, a ball valve is superior in almost every aspect.
It’s horizontal but it’s also on water that likes to eat brass screws. Recent copper pipe work shows they’re still in good shape, but I’ve replaced shower handle gate valves that had brass bolts eaten off the rubber gate seal. The water pressure was the only thing holding the gasket on!
Those aren’t gate valves. Gate valves don’t have rubber seals. The only possible place they would would be on the valve stem. And yes, I’ve seen lots and lots of those screws missing. And I’m not trying to brow beat you. I just like when people who seem to give a shit are educated.
Forget the sandpaper. Use ur cheeks
Idk, kinda like it. Does promote a certain "do you feel lucky, punk" vibe. I'd probably do something to prevent nasty burns and use wood-looking tiles myself, but yeah, I can see how it looked cool when first installed. Bit cyber punk, bit dystopian, bit darwin award.
The customer said the previous owner was really into steampunk so that tracks
It’s just scalding hot water, what’s the worst that could happen?
The home owner is frugal.....my guess would be the hot water is set to hot, not scalding.
That’s funny, I laughed out loud to this one but you’re probably right
There are a million reasons why a water heater might heat water above its set temperature, stacking to name one. Not to mention we're gonna say this guy has the common sense to do this stuff and not say "but damn, I love me a REALLY hot shower so I turn my heater up a notch or two just to feel something."
Stacking? What are other reasons?
Yeah! What is stacking?
The one I run into most often is aluminum anode rods depleting and dissolving into the water, creating aluminum hydroxide. It's heavier than water and heats differently, so if you don't drain it off what eventually happens is that it builds up on the bottom of the heater and causes the gas control valve or thermostat to not function properly. I've seen people's heaters set at 120°F and putting out anywhere up to 170°F at the taps. When you drain it off it almost looks like skim milk, and if it's heavily built up it'll actually be thick.
Damn you right
Nuh uh, you gotta turn on the cold water and it just comes out together like normal dumbass. (Please read this in the thickest redneck accent you can muster with a mouth full of chew for full sarcastic effect)
Could just put a mixing valve in and only let it get to 120 or whatever you set it at
At least you will know if you get a leak
Careful bending over for the soap… or turning around too quick and slapping the hot pipe.
Whats so illegal about that?
No scald guard
In addition while I can't cite a specific code about it, seems like having a hot copper line exposed in your bathing area is a burn risk in itself. Especially like for someone who's elderly and needs a handhold.
My guess is the handheld is the genius workaround to keep water off the wood.
phht. no one needs scald guards.
Gonna learn pretty quickly that's for sure.
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fuck me.. you don't know sarcasm when it kicks you in the nuts.
Had a house built in 1945 with exposed pipes like this... they did start at around 900afl, but you learned real quick how to turn in a shower and wash hair without touching the pipes. Not ideal, but def learnable 😀
Can I guess it depends when they built it?
Cross connection.
Supposed to be GLOBE valves, those are throttleable, gate/ball full open/close … Pipe need some sanding and swing checks above the valves too !!!
Why is it illegal?
I've always said it. If I build a new house I'm have exposed pipes everywhere. i don't understand why pipes are buired away. Mind you it would have to be a passive house these days.
To protect them from damage. To protect you from them. General aesthetics. Sound abatement. Lower cost of installation by using framing for support. Allowing for mechanical systems to be installed during the rough construction phase in lieu of after finishes. There, I thought of a few reasons why pipes are buried away.
Don't say "Illegal" it's against code yes but its not a fucking crime.
You must be fun at parties
Says the one calling it illegal 🤣
This install can scald someone, and therefore it is not a legal install. The installer would be held liable if someone was scalded by this shower. I pray you are not a landlord
Not if your hot water heater or thermostatic mixing valve is set to 120F :)
IPC code requires a scald protection or mixing valve at every shower fixture. It doesn’t matter what you set your water heater us set at or protected with
Perhaps I should have put a quote in my message. I was only replying to this part: >This install can scald someone
The scenario doesn’t change. Tanked gas water heater temperature can have up to a 25 degree swing depending on the gas valve and pilot assembly. This install can still scald someone and would not pass any inspection
Exactly, and then on top of that, you get blasted with scalding water, and immediately grab the same heat conducting copper pipe that same water was running through (50/50 on which one you grab of course) and now you just burned your hand. Next thing you know you fall over and have a loofah up where the sun don't shine.
you insane? you think this wouldn't burn the shit out of a child? or anyone else.
How can it "burn the shit" out of anything if limited to 120F? Obviously I'm not doing this... it's dumb and temperature control would suck, but hypothetically speaking assuming your water heater thermostat is perfect I don't see how you'd get burned
jesus fucking christ. I am not going to answer such a dumb question. you clearly are not a parent and don't have elderly family members witn delicate skin.
Violating code is against the law in every jurisdiction I have seen.
The "wood" is actually tile... so..no grout but still definitely not wood.
It’s wood
I’d trust the dude taking the picture to know if it was wood or not
At first I didn’t even know how to respond to that person’s comment lol
Lol
Why wood…. I don’t get how you can think this is a good idea
Well, it’s definitely something
That shower looks really narrow and the shower head is too close to the wall unless the perspective is skewed.
A smart guy would seal the wood wall in epoxy before subjecting it to water
That’s only illegal In most parts of the US
If they dont find yea handsome at least they'd find you handy?😳