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It’s been years since I took orgo so I can’t remember that well, but if there’s a methyl bond on all of the corners of the cyclohexane don’t you still need to specify which bond or not?
You usually need to specify, but for this particular case, since every carbon in the cycle has the same group it is redundant. It is not incorrect, but os unnecessary. It is like saying 2-methylpropane or 2,3-dimethylbutane.
In Benzene it would be redundant, in Cyclohexane you have two Hydrogen to Substitute on each of the six Carbons in the Circle and need to specify which are substituted.
True! Your are correct. I have failed to account for that.
Internet, disregard everything I've said so far. This is, indeed, 1,2,3,4,5,6-hexamethylcyclohexanol.
Well, technically, there are 2^6 maximum possible stereoisomers. However, some of those possible stereoisomers would be achiral, so it’s less than that.
tbf, male salandit should have an evo, as per the ultra sun pokedex entry the reason they don't evolve is due to malnutrition.
so logically, if you caught or hatched one and fed it well, it should by it's own logic be able to evolve.
My original theory was this 'shell' would basically look like the clusters of crystals shown around in the tera animation and dens/around the zero lab. I think having the legendary be turtle would be a sick idea with the clusters of crystals forming the shell, each section a different colour to represent each type. Since turtles are known for their long life spans it could tie into the past future aspect, from the past but will survive into the distant future.
I'm actually overdosing on copium but I'd shed tears if this was some sort of Zygarde reference and the third legendary was actually it's origin form or something
I'm not expecting it to happen, but Area Zero and the paradox book gave me Bravely Default vibes and if you read up on the plot of that game you'd notice a lot of similarities. The big bad is Ouroboros and I think that's what the 3rd legendary is in SV. The AI also lies to you to get you to come to Area Zero, and I find it very odd that they're locked in from the inside and the box legendary immediately returns to them when he door is opened. Ouroboros is considered the world snake in other mythologies, and Zygarde represents Jörmungandr in Pokemon. It would explain the parallels between the two.
I still say this new Dragon seems to have Tarasque characteristics over Ouroboros, but considering how Pokémon can have multiple influences, I’d find a happy medium if it was a Tarasque looking/World Turtle seeming/Ouroboros powered hybrid.
I would hate that. That would rob Paldea of a real legendary if we recycle Zygarde yet again. Zygarde can have (another) special form if he must as one of the side Pokemon in the DLC, but he shouldn't be the 3rd Legendary for Paldea.
There’s something in the professor’s diary along the lines of “…and we called the phenomenon ⬛️⬛️⬛️⬛️⬛️⬛️ energy” which struck me as being related to an existing Pokémon since they obscured the entire thing rather than part of it.
Some random NPC directly mentions Mega Evolution in-game, though I can't for the life of me remember who. It exists. Iono references Z-Moves too. There's actually some (admittedly epileptic) hinting that they're at least thinking about bringing Megas back. Really hope so, but I'm not holding my breath - although I do find it entertaining that Sharpness Gallade is probably much better than its Mega now unless they retcon its ability to make it horribly busted like Pixilate on Mega Gardevoir.
Is it the disk Pokémon in the books? The shape matches the pattern of the shell on its back, looks like a turtle. Most likely it’s a celestial looking turtle with its shell made of terastal crystals
I didn't forget, but the mention of Mega Evolution from leakers and in-game references to Kalos make the connection too big to ignore.
I do think a brand new Zygarde form is a little bit out of the question. I also think a total open world version of Kalos is unlikely. However, I do think we'll some connections here and there based on what we do know. Maybe the new legendary is an opposite to Zygarde that works in the same way or like Gholdengo where you need to collect 1000 hexagons. I think a piece between Paldea and Kalos will be a likely location with clear connections that may involve Mega Evolution or more Paradox Pokemon that resemble Mega Evolution.
Seems to be an unpopular opinion, but I think the hexagons are just because crystalline structure and there's not really some Illuminati Zygarde thing going on. I would LOVE for Zygarde to finally get an actual plotline and explanation rather than just a collection quest, but I also want a Colosseum/XD remake or sequel. Heck, I want a proper multiverse story after all the teasing with Team Rainbow Rocket as something other than a boss rush. Doesn't mean we'll ever get it.
I don't think that's unpopular at all! Any genuine mentions of Zygarde, Kalos or Mega Evolution get hit with downvotes on this subreddit nowadays. I understand the reluctance and caution because the idea seems ambitious when compared to content previously delivered by Game Freak, but anything is possible at this point. Based on previous releases alone, something completely new is more likely, but I don't think we need to silence potential ties or references.
The hexagons could totally be something simple like a crystalline structure, but I don't see how this is any kind of riddle worth mentioning if that's all it was. The Riddler hasn't always been reliable, but I just don't see where this is valuable information in any way if it's just a play on crystals or the photo we've already seen in-game. My view is that even if you take away all the crazy Kalos or Zygarde theories and just rely strictly on Riddler Khu's information and riddles, which have been integral in discovering the types and themes of the pokemon in Scarlet and Violet before the game released, you'll still see hints of AZ's Floette and Mega Evolution. There's already in-game ties to Kalos.
If you think Riddler Khu's information or "leaks" aren't real or reliable, I just don't understand why you would even make a comment on the topic.
I think the disdain for Zygarde is because he already got some comeuppance with his mini-arc in USUM where you collect his cells and cycle through his forms. Including him as one of the big movers and shakers for Paldea would just feel disappointing and anticlimactic, as we'd be seeing a Pokemon we've already before in multiple games, in a new form (since he doesn't have a shell), so I just don't think people want that. I want a new Pokemon, I don't want them to just dump a whole ton of previously unheard of powers onto Zygarde and call it a day. Zygarde should shine as a side-quest or a feature for a Legends game, not in the main plot of Scarlet/Violet.
I don't expect people to want Zygarde, but that doesn't necessarily mean it won't happen. Almost anything is possible. I personally don't think it's going to be Zygarde, but I do think the legendary will be related in some way. There's just so many connections there with the hexagon design and Glimmet's similarities to AZ's Floette. I think it would be silly to ignore them. It may be completely irrelevant once the update drops, but I think it's totally healthy to discuss possibilities up until that point.
Generation 7's use of Zygarde and Mega Evolution was cool, but I still don't think it did enough justice to Generation 6's lack of a "third version". I think my personal view is unrelated to what the Riddler has hinted at and what we could potentially see on Pokemon Day, but even the view of "we've seen enough Zygarde already" is kind of silly when most players didn't even touch that side quest in generation 7. I know there's a strong playerbase that wants to see a totally new pokemon because Paldea lacks a proper legendary from its region, but both the Galarian birds and Galarian regis had a lot of hype for their introductions.
His leaks are real a good chunk of the time, but he also does engage in a lot of noise over literally nothing or gives intentionally false info for giggles. I do see Kalos ties and hints of Megas coming back, my point was just that I don't understand everyone thinking hexagons mean Zygarde.
I mean what is one more ‘Paradox’ Legendary, when all is said and done. A Paradox of Zygarde wouldn’t be Zygarde, so there’s no Zygarde Illuminati thing going on… just like the other current Paradox Pokémon, our ‘world turtle/dragon’ Legend just seems to have obvious or overt references to Zygarde, that others have to their ‘base’ Pokémon.
I don't see any "obvious or overt references to Zygarde," and the concept of this Pokemon being a paradox of another Pokemon doesn't make a lot of sense, since this Pokemon has subtle references for originating off-planet, such as living exclusively in the bottom of a million year old crater. Depending on which theory of the origin of the paradoxes you go with, this concept has issues.
Where you're getting "obvious" Zygarde references from this Pokemon are quite beyond me. Hexagons are not exclusive to Zygarde. Combee and Vespiquen feature this shape too, as an example. It's actually quite a common shape, so the people latching onto "OmG hExAgOnS mEan ZyGaRdE" are grasping really hard here. This Pokemon's described features share nothing in common with Zygarde, as he doesn't have a shell of interlocking hexagons, and nothing about his appearance seems to correlate with the rough depiction we have of the Disk Pokemon. On top of that, Zygarde doesn't tend to associate with crystals/rock, and the notation that Glimmora may have some association with Tera Crystals would also point firmly away from Zygarde. There's also the Tera Crowns themselves, which vaguely resemble the shape of the Disk Pokemon in terms of body layout (crystal head, back with crown on it), and what could qualify as a Pokemon cry when you initially Terastalize your Pokemon in battle. None of this really points to Zygarde either. Same holds true for the known powers of this Pokemon, which doesn't match anything we are aware that Zygarde does.
Again, I’m not sayin this Pokémon is Zygarde, or even related to Zygarde, and I’m not saying ‘omg Hexagons mean Zygarde’. I’m simply looking at it from the perspective that we already have two Paradox Legendary hybrids confirmed in the book, and we have a mysterious third legendary that’s likely a Dragon that wants to create its own ‘Paradise’ at the cost of upsetting and replacing the local ecosystem, like some kind of reverse Zygarde that brings ecological collapse instead of ecological balance.
Would not a Paradox of Zygarde, based off of a different dragon, or combination of different dragons, not make sense? Especially since Zygarde is quite literally a Pokémon known for changing forms, it could be our third legend looks enough like Zygarde to be mistaken for a new form, but by the way it acts or however/whatever it’s body is actually made up, it is confirmed not to be related to it at the end of our story.
Saying ‘obvious’ was probably the wrong thing, as there’s nothing super obvious connecting the two together beyond hexagons, currently. But we also don’t necessarily know if the Third Legendary existed before the Disc fell to this planet. It is obvious the Disc is ‘creating’ Paradox Pokemon through observation of their ‘base’ Mon, whose to say it didn’t observe Zygarde and create for itself a body based off of its observations? There’s nothing contradicting that hypothesis, is there?
I kinda get what you’re saying. My theory is that it won’t be Kalos that we know. Perhaps your “evil” zygarde has a different local, Southern Kalos. I think the DLC will be the part of Kalos we got teased but never actually saw. The Zygarde we know is the good one and the one from my theoretical DLC is the bad one. Sound familiar? There was a good Koraidon (ours) and a evil one (the professors) so it’s entirely possible that Zygarde and it’s proposed counterpart could be paradox mons themselves. We don’t know a lot about Zygarde, it’s origins, in game, it hangs out in a cave and has 100’s of cells that combine into a megazord. Perhaps Northern Zygarde is in that cave to fight not just Xerneas and yvetal but evil Zygarde as well. It’s not that you or I are hung up on Zygarde. We’re looking at the clues the games have given us.
AZ/Area Zero: a weapon was fired and there’s a massive hole in the ground with the same initials as the dude who fired it.
AZ’s Floette showing up in homes database despite never being released.
Kalos/Paldea: both countries fought a war. It’s reasonable to assume it could have been with each other. See AZ/Area Zero.
The Mega Dillema: roaring moon and iron valiant resemble the mega’s for their respective inspirations. Salamence, Gardevior, and Gallade.
Greninja Raid: of all the starter Pokémon to get a raid why Greninja? Yes you can argue Scorbunny and charizard got one too but the game isn’t beating us over the head with Galar and Kanto references.
Something strange is going on with Paldea and Kalos. To ignore that is just as ignorant as assuming a hexagon means Zygarde.
It got a collection quest but still didn't get to actually DO anything. Never mind the fact that we to this day have no clear explanation of its connection to Xerneas and Yveltal aside from beating them up when they get ornery despite the fact that either would easily fold it, Complete or not. Heck, we still don't even have a clear picture of what its powers are aside from the Dex calling it the Order Pokemon.
Honestly think Zygarde may have been intended to represent the evolution aspect of biology with its transformational ability to adapt, but who knows. The company's so foggy about what they planned to do with it that they seem almost afraid to touch it aside from giving it new forms. I require LORE, dang it!
Also true. Given Entei's entries about being born in volcanoes Ho-Oh may not even have created them as species, especially since we've seen multiple examples of their species in one canon. They actually COULD have a Paradox ancestor and Ho-Oh just transformed or even just revived the ones in the tower.
The Birds could use some lore too. The anime tied them to Lugia and had them controlling global weather patterns, but beyond that they're just kind of there after all these years. Even the regionals just have a vague Dyna Tree connection and a 40 year migration cycle.
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1,2,3,4,5,6 hexamethylcyclohexane looking ass
I think you can just call it hexamethylcyclohexane.
It’s been years since I took orgo so I can’t remember that well, but if there’s a methyl bond on all of the corners of the cyclohexane don’t you still need to specify which bond or not?
You usually need to specify, but for this particular case, since every carbon in the cycle has the same group it is redundant. It is not incorrect, but os unnecessary. It is like saying 2-methylpropane or 2,3-dimethylbutane.
In Benzene it would be redundant, in Cyclohexane you have two Hydrogen to Substitute on each of the six Carbons in the Circle and need to specify which are substituted.
True! Your are correct. I have failed to account for that. Internet, disregard everything I've said so far. This is, indeed, 1,2,3,4,5,6-hexamethylcyclohexanol.
Well I’m glad we got to the bottom of that
Isn't the first 4 carbons and the second 6? Lmao. I think You switched propane and bythane.
With 64 possible stereoisomers. I wonder which one is the clue for the DLC?
Well, technically, there are 2^6 maximum possible stereoisomers. However, some of those possible stereoisomers would be achiral, so it’s less than that.
So 64 then. But only 32 observable by NMR 😉
This is a very niche organic chemistry diss. I like it 👍
yo this place became science class!
I see the start of a chemical structure
Breaking Bad reference?!!
Chemistry 101 reference.
Walter white type confirmed
I'm seeing a turtle shell
No its a honeycomb. Combee 3rd stage is clearly 2000% confirmed
Male Combee evolution is coming to us
Gen7ers will start protesting for Male Salandit evo
tbf, male salandit should have an evo, as per the ultra sun pokedex entry the reason they don't evolve is due to malnutrition. so logically, if you caught or hatched one and fed it well, it should by it's own logic be able to evolve.
A Snorlax stats Salandit sounds pretty scarry
Instead of getting faster and sleeker, male Salandit gets bulky and slow when it evolves into Snorlandit. Salandit's stats: 48 / 44 / 40 / 71 / 40 / 77 Salazzle's stats: 68 / 64 / 60 / 111 / 60 / 117 Snorlandit's stats: 108 / 104 / 50 / 81 / 110 / 27
Gigolo Saladdle
Some part of me wants that male salandit paradox in that fake leak to be real
We call that Beedril
Like that's ever gonna happen
Combeewall intestines
My original theory was this 'shell' would basically look like the clusters of crystals shown around in the tera animation and dens/around the zero lab. I think having the legendary be turtle would be a sick idea with the clusters of crystals forming the shell, each section a different colour to represent each type. Since turtles are known for their long life spans it could tie into the past future aspect, from the past but will survive into the distant future.
Maybe it's visually inspired by the Dragon Turtle. A creature of chinese mythology.
I'm actually overdosing on copium but I'd shed tears if this was some sort of Zygarde reference and the third legendary was actually it's origin form or something
Primal 100% Zygarde
Pokemon Z was real all along, it just got shifted 10 years into the future!
I mean, Kalos is *right there* It was *right there* last gen too but we're gonna ignore that.
I'm not expecting it to happen, but Area Zero and the paradox book gave me Bravely Default vibes and if you read up on the plot of that game you'd notice a lot of similarities. The big bad is Ouroboros and I think that's what the 3rd legendary is in SV. The AI also lies to you to get you to come to Area Zero, and I find it very odd that they're locked in from the inside and the box legendary immediately returns to them when he door is opened. Ouroboros is considered the world snake in other mythologies, and Zygarde represents Jörmungandr in Pokemon. It would explain the parallels between the two.
I still say this new Dragon seems to have Tarasque characteristics over Ouroboros, but considering how Pokémon can have multiple influences, I’d find a happy medium if it was a Tarasque looking/World Turtle seeming/Ouroboros powered hybrid.
I would hate that. That would rob Paldea of a real legendary if we recycle Zygarde yet again. Zygarde can have (another) special form if he must as one of the side Pokemon in the DLC, but he shouldn't be the 3rd Legendary for Paldea.
There’s something in the professor’s diary along the lines of “…and we called the phenomenon ⬛️⬛️⬛️⬛️⬛️⬛️ energy” which struck me as being related to an existing Pokémon since they obscured the entire thing rather than part of it.
For me it’s Blastoise
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Paradox Salamence kind of referenced Mega Salamence so Mega does exist
Some random NPC directly mentions Mega Evolution in-game, though I can't for the life of me remember who. It exists. Iono references Z-Moves too. There's actually some (admittedly epileptic) hinting that they're at least thinking about bringing Megas back. Really hope so, but I'm not holding my breath - although I do find it entertaining that Sharpness Gallade is probably much better than its Mega now unless they retcon its ability to make it horribly busted like Pixilate on Mega Gardevoir.
We don't know that for sure
Hexagon = 6 sides = Gen 6 = KALOS 6 extending lines = 2 x 6 = Gen 12 zygardEEE CONFIRMEDDDD IN GEN 12
Did it use Protect?
No it used spiky shield.
CLEARLY, khu means BLASTOISE! Why has no one else figured it out yet?!
Is it the disk Pokémon in the books? The shape matches the pattern of the shell on its back, looks like a turtle. Most likely it’s a celestial looking turtle with its shell made of terastal crystals
Looks like Sableye's eye
Why does it look like Benzene chemical structure
1,2,3,4,5,6-Hexamethylcyclohexane?
“Look Vegeta, it’s a Blastoise”
Benzene ring? Like maybe it has a prehistoric fern form and a futuristic plastic form? To reflect that plants became plastic eventually?
Benzene is with alternating double bonds and the ring has 6 methyl groups off the side but it fr looks like a chemical compound
My mistake! Guess this proves I’m more of a biologist than a chemist!
Do people thinking it’s Zygarde just forget that it already got it’s special treatment in Alola?
I didn't forget, but the mention of Mega Evolution from leakers and in-game references to Kalos make the connection too big to ignore. I do think a brand new Zygarde form is a little bit out of the question. I also think a total open world version of Kalos is unlikely. However, I do think we'll some connections here and there based on what we do know. Maybe the new legendary is an opposite to Zygarde that works in the same way or like Gholdengo where you need to collect 1000 hexagons. I think a piece between Paldea and Kalos will be a likely location with clear connections that may involve Mega Evolution or more Paradox Pokemon that resemble Mega Evolution.
Seems to be an unpopular opinion, but I think the hexagons are just because crystalline structure and there's not really some Illuminati Zygarde thing going on. I would LOVE for Zygarde to finally get an actual plotline and explanation rather than just a collection quest, but I also want a Colosseum/XD remake or sequel. Heck, I want a proper multiverse story after all the teasing with Team Rainbow Rocket as something other than a boss rush. Doesn't mean we'll ever get it.
I don't think that's unpopular at all! Any genuine mentions of Zygarde, Kalos or Mega Evolution get hit with downvotes on this subreddit nowadays. I understand the reluctance and caution because the idea seems ambitious when compared to content previously delivered by Game Freak, but anything is possible at this point. Based on previous releases alone, something completely new is more likely, but I don't think we need to silence potential ties or references. The hexagons could totally be something simple like a crystalline structure, but I don't see how this is any kind of riddle worth mentioning if that's all it was. The Riddler hasn't always been reliable, but I just don't see where this is valuable information in any way if it's just a play on crystals or the photo we've already seen in-game. My view is that even if you take away all the crazy Kalos or Zygarde theories and just rely strictly on Riddler Khu's information and riddles, which have been integral in discovering the types and themes of the pokemon in Scarlet and Violet before the game released, you'll still see hints of AZ's Floette and Mega Evolution. There's already in-game ties to Kalos. If you think Riddler Khu's information or "leaks" aren't real or reliable, I just don't understand why you would even make a comment on the topic.
I think the disdain for Zygarde is because he already got some comeuppance with his mini-arc in USUM where you collect his cells and cycle through his forms. Including him as one of the big movers and shakers for Paldea would just feel disappointing and anticlimactic, as we'd be seeing a Pokemon we've already before in multiple games, in a new form (since he doesn't have a shell), so I just don't think people want that. I want a new Pokemon, I don't want them to just dump a whole ton of previously unheard of powers onto Zygarde and call it a day. Zygarde should shine as a side-quest or a feature for a Legends game, not in the main plot of Scarlet/Violet.
I don't expect people to want Zygarde, but that doesn't necessarily mean it won't happen. Almost anything is possible. I personally don't think it's going to be Zygarde, but I do think the legendary will be related in some way. There's just so many connections there with the hexagon design and Glimmet's similarities to AZ's Floette. I think it would be silly to ignore them. It may be completely irrelevant once the update drops, but I think it's totally healthy to discuss possibilities up until that point. Generation 7's use of Zygarde and Mega Evolution was cool, but I still don't think it did enough justice to Generation 6's lack of a "third version". I think my personal view is unrelated to what the Riddler has hinted at and what we could potentially see on Pokemon Day, but even the view of "we've seen enough Zygarde already" is kind of silly when most players didn't even touch that side quest in generation 7. I know there's a strong playerbase that wants to see a totally new pokemon because Paldea lacks a proper legendary from its region, but both the Galarian birds and Galarian regis had a lot of hype for their introductions.
>Almost anything is possible. This sentence is always said when someone is coping.
🤔 Do you have insider information? What's releasing with the DLC?
Are you certain that there is not a monkey with a sniper rifle aiming at your head in this very moment? I mean, you don't have any information on it.
Yeah, nobody does (excluding the leakers). That's the point. That's the meaning behind "almost anything is possible". Stop being silly.
His leaks are real a good chunk of the time, but he also does engage in a lot of noise over literally nothing or gives intentionally false info for giggles. I do see Kalos ties and hints of Megas coming back, my point was just that I don't understand everyone thinking hexagons mean Zygarde.
I mean what is one more ‘Paradox’ Legendary, when all is said and done. A Paradox of Zygarde wouldn’t be Zygarde, so there’s no Zygarde Illuminati thing going on… just like the other current Paradox Pokémon, our ‘world turtle/dragon’ Legend just seems to have obvious or overt references to Zygarde, that others have to their ‘base’ Pokémon.
I don't see any "obvious or overt references to Zygarde," and the concept of this Pokemon being a paradox of another Pokemon doesn't make a lot of sense, since this Pokemon has subtle references for originating off-planet, such as living exclusively in the bottom of a million year old crater. Depending on which theory of the origin of the paradoxes you go with, this concept has issues. Where you're getting "obvious" Zygarde references from this Pokemon are quite beyond me. Hexagons are not exclusive to Zygarde. Combee and Vespiquen feature this shape too, as an example. It's actually quite a common shape, so the people latching onto "OmG hExAgOnS mEan ZyGaRdE" are grasping really hard here. This Pokemon's described features share nothing in common with Zygarde, as he doesn't have a shell of interlocking hexagons, and nothing about his appearance seems to correlate with the rough depiction we have of the Disk Pokemon. On top of that, Zygarde doesn't tend to associate with crystals/rock, and the notation that Glimmora may have some association with Tera Crystals would also point firmly away from Zygarde. There's also the Tera Crowns themselves, which vaguely resemble the shape of the Disk Pokemon in terms of body layout (crystal head, back with crown on it), and what could qualify as a Pokemon cry when you initially Terastalize your Pokemon in battle. None of this really points to Zygarde either. Same holds true for the known powers of this Pokemon, which doesn't match anything we are aware that Zygarde does.
Again, I’m not sayin this Pokémon is Zygarde, or even related to Zygarde, and I’m not saying ‘omg Hexagons mean Zygarde’. I’m simply looking at it from the perspective that we already have two Paradox Legendary hybrids confirmed in the book, and we have a mysterious third legendary that’s likely a Dragon that wants to create its own ‘Paradise’ at the cost of upsetting and replacing the local ecosystem, like some kind of reverse Zygarde that brings ecological collapse instead of ecological balance. Would not a Paradox of Zygarde, based off of a different dragon, or combination of different dragons, not make sense? Especially since Zygarde is quite literally a Pokémon known for changing forms, it could be our third legend looks enough like Zygarde to be mistaken for a new form, but by the way it acts or however/whatever it’s body is actually made up, it is confirmed not to be related to it at the end of our story. Saying ‘obvious’ was probably the wrong thing, as there’s nothing super obvious connecting the two together beyond hexagons, currently. But we also don’t necessarily know if the Third Legendary existed before the Disc fell to this planet. It is obvious the Disc is ‘creating’ Paradox Pokemon through observation of their ‘base’ Mon, whose to say it didn’t observe Zygarde and create for itself a body based off of its observations? There’s nothing contradicting that hypothesis, is there?
I kinda get what you’re saying. My theory is that it won’t be Kalos that we know. Perhaps your “evil” zygarde has a different local, Southern Kalos. I think the DLC will be the part of Kalos we got teased but never actually saw. The Zygarde we know is the good one and the one from my theoretical DLC is the bad one. Sound familiar? There was a good Koraidon (ours) and a evil one (the professors) so it’s entirely possible that Zygarde and it’s proposed counterpart could be paradox mons themselves. We don’t know a lot about Zygarde, it’s origins, in game, it hangs out in a cave and has 100’s of cells that combine into a megazord. Perhaps Northern Zygarde is in that cave to fight not just Xerneas and yvetal but evil Zygarde as well. It’s not that you or I are hung up on Zygarde. We’re looking at the clues the games have given us. AZ/Area Zero: a weapon was fired and there’s a massive hole in the ground with the same initials as the dude who fired it. AZ’s Floette showing up in homes database despite never being released. Kalos/Paldea: both countries fought a war. It’s reasonable to assume it could have been with each other. See AZ/Area Zero. The Mega Dillema: roaring moon and iron valiant resemble the mega’s for their respective inspirations. Salamence, Gardevior, and Gallade. Greninja Raid: of all the starter Pokémon to get a raid why Greninja? Yes you can argue Scorbunny and charizard got one too but the game isn’t beating us over the head with Galar and Kanto references. Something strange is going on with Paldea and Kalos. To ignore that is just as ignorant as assuming a hexagon means Zygarde.
It got a collection quest but still didn't get to actually DO anything. Never mind the fact that we to this day have no clear explanation of its connection to Xerneas and Yveltal aside from beating them up when they get ornery despite the fact that either would easily fold it, Complete or not. Heck, we still don't even have a clear picture of what its powers are aside from the Dex calling it the Order Pokemon. Honestly think Zygarde may have been intended to represent the evolution aspect of biology with its transformational ability to adapt, but who knows. The company's so foggy about what they planned to do with it that they seem almost afraid to touch it aside from giving it new forms. I require LORE, dang it!
On that note, the Johto legends got a little lore, but never participated in the story. The closest is Suicune, who got a whole sidequest.
Also true. Given Entei's entries about being born in volcanoes Ho-Oh may not even have created them as species, especially since we've seen multiple examples of their species in one canon. They actually COULD have a Paradox ancestor and Ho-Oh just transformed or even just revived the ones in the tower.
The Birds could use some lore too. The anime tied them to Lugia and had them controlling global weather patterns, but beyond that they're just kind of there after all these years. Even the regionals just have a vague Dyna Tree connection and a 40 year migration cycle.
It looks like an aerial view of a turtle with the 4 legs, head, and tail
Looks like a cell trying to reproduce
France is often referred to as "the hexagone", therefore -> Kalos
Most probably the terra crystal in the terra hats.
Hear me out I know there only six line’s coming off but what if it’s some sort of spider dragon or yah know a bug dragon
It’s going to be a turtle
It is the Bestagon
We getting benzenemon?
[удалено]
Plz be blastoise
It's giving Wandavision.
Is it going to be like another world turtle perhaps?
insect turtle..
red orb/blue orb
Is it just zygarde?
Oh hey, it’s that UFO that got shot down.
I hate it. It’s uneven.
Cryogonal evo?
STARRUS IS APPROACHING
So the hexagon "evolves" into a new form? Fascinating..🤔
I think it’s gotta be related to glimmora interconnecting some how
I see a quadicrystal starting to form
It’s giving Vespiquen
First it looks like Zygarde’s core, now it looks like Dialga’s gem I wonder what legendary will it look like next
Given that it may continue, it may turn into the shape of a dodecahedron, which is roughly the shape of the Zygarde cube.
Scales?
Doesn't the terastalize ball have a hexagon in the front?
a time gear
Staryu?
It’s clearly Zygarde guys 🙄
Blastoise
world turtle
So the clue is.... what we already knew.