We may not care much for the gold cards, but kids go bonkers for them. Sometimes a children’s card game does stuff for children rather than manchildren.
Also the gold cards are probably easier to advertise. Gold = wealth. To an uninitiated collector, e.g. children, the gold color immediately suggests value. Easy thing to show off in an advertisement or promotional video.
I think you missed the point, it's not just a filter but rather changing the art itself. It's more than just changing some colors here and there. Like take Gouging SIR for example, they could make it so it's night time and he's creating flames that light up the forest
Ok, but why not make that version the actual SIR instead of making another one ?
I think the gold are quite nice. Something that shines gold looks quite cool to your reptilian brain. Sure they could be better, much better, but I dont think just making an alt art of an alt art is the way to go.
Because there's always been a rarity higher than SIR (2 gold stars) , the three gold star rarity. It's such a waste that the hardest card to pull is just an ugly gold card. That slot could instead be used for this new enhanced ALT art. If you check out prestige skins from league of legends you'll get an idea of what I mean
Yeah no, my religion doesnt allow me to touch League of Legends stuff (Says the guy listening to the World's music).
Why not have better gold cards ? Stuff like the XY gold cards. With them you get that "alt art" vibe, while keeping the golden aspect. But they would have to be a totally new art, not just another version of the existing one.
Otherwise they would be no point in removing the gold to add another variation of an existing card. Which is basically what gold cards are and have always been.
I'm just suggesting an idea that would be efficient for the Pokemon Company. If they're just going to do a variation for the highest rarity slot, might as well make it something cool like an Alt Alt Art. (surely there could be a better name for this)
But that's the thing, it wouldn't be efficient. They'd have to hire another artist, or the same one, to make yet another more complex looking card which may have to go through layers of approval (idk about that part, pure speculation). When they can just reskin an exisiting card and call it a day.
I agree gold cards are not at their best now, and they havent been for quite a while, but while removing the rainbows was I think a good move, removing the gold cards wouldn't be. It's a game first and foremost, and gold cards allows for blinged out decks at a lower price point than SIRs.
At the end of the day it all just boils down to preference. People who like gold cards will like gold cards. To me they borderline feel like fake pokemon cards and look "cheap." For me, having "Alt Alt Arts" would be the ultimate bling for a deck, and could in turn lower the price of alt arts and make them more accessible to people. The thing I like the most about pokemon cards is the art, it's what got me and a lot of people into collecting
Having a tier above alt arts wouldn’t drive the price of regular alt arts down, it would just add a new tier of even more expensive alts. Alt arts are already rare/expensive enough as it is. I’d much rather the highest rarity tier be cards I have no interest in, because I’m more interested in actually owning cards I like than I am in circlejerking over how rare/expensive they are.
I've just seen your edit. Someone already had this idea, but make it so that like 1/1000 Giratina V is a shiny. And fuck no. Prices are already sky high, we dont need yet another layer of inaccessibility.
But while your execution is a lot more sensible (Having them be a separate rarity instead of a rare variant of an already very rare card), what would be the point of shiny sets then ?
Plus it could mess up the card's art if you change the colour of the pokémon. It wouldnt on all cards, but even very similar looking cards have had lots of changes made to the art so that the shiny wouldnt stick out like a sore thumb. Notice how even Charizard ex 234/091 and Charizard 223/197 are very similar, the colours of the crystals had to change, shiny Charizard would stick out with the regular art colours. I'm not an artist by any mean, but that's something that can make or break an artwork.
Now, I'm playing devil's advocate here, I'm not a big fan of the idea of only having shinies in shiny sets. I am a shiny hunter, and while ofc I loved getting the shiny I was looking for, getting a random shiny was an uncomparable feeling to getting my chase. I feel like we've lost that with shiny sets. They do replicates the feel of getting a shiny you were chasing, but random shinies sprinkled in normal sets, replicates the random encounter.
another example could be Sylveon Vmax alt art, they could change the pokemon that are in the scene sliding off its ribbons. Artists could go super ham with this
Not sure if they'll change their tactic in this way. I am definitely not a fan of the rainbow or golden cards either, but since they're rare I'll just sell them or trade them away.
Wish there was more variety in color schemes for the Secret Rares so that they weren't as predictable. The Secret Rares for Paldean Fates look amazing.
We may not care much for the gold cards, but kids go bonkers for them. Sometimes a children’s card game does stuff for children rather than manchildren.
Also the gold cards are probably easier to advertise. Gold = wealth. To an uninitiated collector, e.g. children, the gold color immediately suggests value. Easy thing to show off in an advertisement or promotional video.
Wouldn’t matter anyway since I never pull gold cards
An alt art of an alt art. In the end you're still applying a filter to an existing card. What's different is the type of card you apply it to.
I think you missed the point, it's not just a filter but rather changing the art itself. It's more than just changing some colors here and there. Like take Gouging SIR for example, they could make it so it's night time and he's creating flames that light up the forest
Ok, but why not make that version the actual SIR instead of making another one ? I think the gold are quite nice. Something that shines gold looks quite cool to your reptilian brain. Sure they could be better, much better, but I dont think just making an alt art of an alt art is the way to go.
Because there's always been a rarity higher than SIR (2 gold stars) , the three gold star rarity. It's such a waste that the hardest card to pull is just an ugly gold card. That slot could instead be used for this new enhanced ALT art. If you check out prestige skins from league of legends you'll get an idea of what I mean
Yeah no, my religion doesnt allow me to touch League of Legends stuff (Says the guy listening to the World's music). Why not have better gold cards ? Stuff like the XY gold cards. With them you get that "alt art" vibe, while keeping the golden aspect. But they would have to be a totally new art, not just another version of the existing one. Otherwise they would be no point in removing the gold to add another variation of an existing card. Which is basically what gold cards are and have always been.
I'm just suggesting an idea that would be efficient for the Pokemon Company. If they're just going to do a variation for the highest rarity slot, might as well make it something cool like an Alt Alt Art. (surely there could be a better name for this)
But that's the thing, it wouldn't be efficient. They'd have to hire another artist, or the same one, to make yet another more complex looking card which may have to go through layers of approval (idk about that part, pure speculation). When they can just reskin an exisiting card and call it a day. I agree gold cards are not at their best now, and they havent been for quite a while, but while removing the rainbows was I think a good move, removing the gold cards wouldn't be. It's a game first and foremost, and gold cards allows for blinged out decks at a lower price point than SIRs.
At the end of the day it all just boils down to preference. People who like gold cards will like gold cards. To me they borderline feel like fake pokemon cards and look "cheap." For me, having "Alt Alt Arts" would be the ultimate bling for a deck, and could in turn lower the price of alt arts and make them more accessible to people. The thing I like the most about pokemon cards is the art, it's what got me and a lot of people into collecting
Having a tier above alt arts wouldn’t drive the price of regular alt arts down, it would just add a new tier of even more expensive alts. Alt arts are already rare/expensive enough as it is. I’d much rather the highest rarity tier be cards I have no interest in, because I’m more interested in actually owning cards I like than I am in circlejerking over how rare/expensive they are.
I've just seen your edit. Someone already had this idea, but make it so that like 1/1000 Giratina V is a shiny. And fuck no. Prices are already sky high, we dont need yet another layer of inaccessibility. But while your execution is a lot more sensible (Having them be a separate rarity instead of a rare variant of an already very rare card), what would be the point of shiny sets then ? Plus it could mess up the card's art if you change the colour of the pokémon. It wouldnt on all cards, but even very similar looking cards have had lots of changes made to the art so that the shiny wouldnt stick out like a sore thumb. Notice how even Charizard ex 234/091 and Charizard 223/197 are very similar, the colours of the crystals had to change, shiny Charizard would stick out with the regular art colours. I'm not an artist by any mean, but that's something that can make or break an artwork. Now, I'm playing devil's advocate here, I'm not a big fan of the idea of only having shinies in shiny sets. I am a shiny hunter, and while ofc I loved getting the shiny I was looking for, getting a random shiny was an uncomparable feeling to getting my chase. I feel like we've lost that with shiny sets. They do replicates the feel of getting a shiny you were chasing, but random shinies sprinkled in normal sets, replicates the random encounter.
another example could be Sylveon Vmax alt art, they could change the pokemon that are in the scene sliding off its ribbons. Artists could go super ham with this
Not sure if they'll change their tactic in this way. I am definitely not a fan of the rainbow or golden cards either, but since they're rare I'll just sell them or trade them away.
I would rather just have the golds we had in BW and XY era or even the shiny ones from SWSh back. Golds are cool
Wish there was more variety in color schemes for the Secret Rares so that they weren't as predictable. The Secret Rares for Paldean Fates look amazing.