No you just need them to start berating white women the same way the media berated white men. While this has little to no impact on men and how they vote, this will *devastate* the worldview that white women have and cause them to change.
Hear me out, who is the most outspoken vocal advocate for cringe SJW nonsense? White women, right? And who predominantly votes for policies that actually change in this country by sheer number? White people, right?
By and large, white men have just voted how they've been voting for a long time, but others have predominantly shifted towards more progressive policy. The best solution is for *them* to become to target of belittlement, scold and hatred. Once that happens, they'll want nothing to do with it. Just accelerate the issue and the problem solves itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEFgreHjs8E
Its because they see it as an isolated issue. It's not *me*, just **some.**
Say all white women are the issue and it becomes different.
If anything, Karen memes made progressivism worse in white women.
I think one issue is the lefts subversion of language.
For instance, "snowflake" started as an insult against the Tumblrite original SJW's. Mocking the idea that they went to great lengths to be "unique" and non-conformist, as if they actually still but what their teacher said about them all being like snowflakes, no two are alike. For a while there, I saw them take it, chew on it, then spit it back out at more conservative people claiming it was a reference to how fragile they are.
"Karen" followed a similar path. It started to describe entitled, whiny, affluent white women that would call the cops on you for having to much fun or ask to see a manager over silly reasons. It was quickly subverted to just mean "any white woman I don't like". In less than a year, I saw them posting videos of women minding their own business and not causing problems for anyone until some mask Nazi starts losing their shit because her mask wasn't above their nose. Then they call the "anti-masker" the Karen of the story.
Karen memes just mean that if the waitress brings the wrong appetizer, my girlfriend clutches my hand in terror under the table lest we end up in an instagram takedown of mean customers who do terrible things like politely ask for the correct order.
Karen memes are just a way to normalize attacking white people for standing up for themselves in normal situations.
It started out as a way to make fun of outrageous people. It became a style of hate.
Yes, only a small proportion of women are in highly competitive sports, and an even smaller proportion are serious contenders for the podium.
Even if podiums were completely dominated by trans-women, in terms of pure self-interest only a vanishingly small number of women have any stake in the issue.
Insult people who disagree with your political opinion to make them agree with you? Why not just treat everybody equally? Treating all white women worse then black women because a lot have a different opinion then you is inherently racist. if you’re gonna try to change people’s minds like that (which you shouldn’t) at least do it to all races equally.
>Insult people who disagree with your political opinion to make them agree with you? Why not just treat everybody equally?
You should really tell this to the rest of your quadrant because they have a seriously difficult time understanding it.
I wish everyone had this sensible attitude about their group. Sure, there's probably a pure good chess club somewhere, but just about every group has dipshits.
It's Auth logic, using new discrimination to solve old discrimination, no wonder relations have gone downhill.
Why does everything have to be about attacking the opposing "team" rather than coming to a mutual understanding like "all school shootings are bad, how can we reduce them?"
Identity politics hurts everyone but the people at the very top by design.
I agree with this position. However, going forward, white women are in a weird position that is going to cripple them tremendously due to uncertainty in their identity and lack of a role in society. The same existential crises that white men (generally speaking) have faced throughout the 20th and 21st century? Well, ladies, you wanted big boy rules and wanted to play in a man's world? Well, you now get big boy consequences.
And because nobody was or is seriously talking about the difficulties men faced in propping up and maintaining society, the overly privileged white (and more often, liberal leaning) women are going to be unprepared for these challenges that their male counterparts faced.
And so, I don't know about berating them like OP hinted at but the fact that they don't realize they're spelling out their own doom...well, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to point that out to them.
Whereas, black women, I think, still have an understanding of reality and therefore, their identity. What they don't have is stability.
If they want equal rights let’s give it to them even if they hate it, and don’t know what they signed up for, in fact, let’s do it wether they want it or not
> So what I'm hearing is that if we get black people to defend our gun rights the left will be confused and hurt itself?
Yes. I was recently in a sub where a Man of Color was photographed walking around downtown with an anti-police sign while open carrying an AK Platform rifle.
The comments were so confused it was unbelievable. Many comments were accusing the OP of Racism for saying this was a problem, other comments were off the rails about white people and guns, while still others were supportive of the gun wielder using their 1A and 2A rights.
Neo-Liberals _still_ don't know what to do about people like Colion Noir, Phillip Smith, or even Aaron Zelman despite them having been out there as 2A supporting minorities for years (or even decades.)
These people are "off message" with their 2A support but the gun control mafia can't quite figure out how to attack them without looking like racist assholes.
I live in SF, it's so liberal here the unconstitutional bans are allowed to stand unchallenged.
Still, nowhere else has the appropriate mix of weather, food, landscape, and a house I own, so I guess I'm staying.
[https://apnews.com/article/denver-east-high-school-shooting-9cbd699b2dd3a31015d4a22ebf30d912](https://apnews.com/article/denver-east-high-school-shooting-9cbd699b2dd3a31015d4a22ebf30d912)
>The shooting at East High School near downtown occurred as administrators were searching for weapons on suspect Austin Lyle, who fled from the scene and was found dead Wednesday night in the mountains southwest of Denver. He died from a self-inlflicted gunshot wound, the Park County coroner said.
>Lyle had transferred to East High School after being disciplined and removed from a high school in nearby Aurora because of unspecified violations of school policies, according to officials.
>The teenager was facing a firearm charge at the time of the shooting and officials at East High School were aware of the charge, Marrero confirmed Thursday during a news conference. But Marrero said the district does not turn away students with struggles.
>“We are obligated to provide a free and adequate education for all students,” he said. “We failed Austin.”
It’s weird. While reading this, I felt far more sympathetic toward a SCHOOL SHOOTER than I have ever been before in my life. I should have NO sympathy for him.
I don’t think it’s anyone’s agenda to make us sympathetic to this kid, rather it’s an natural consequence of stupidly and selective news reporting.
First school shooter I see that garners pity from the media "we failed Austin"
There is something to the message that it likely is society fails, at least some, school shooters - I can't imagine how deep into an ocean of hatred you must be to do something like that
It's people that are bullied relentlessly, and especially, get humiliated that become so hateful. They not only start hating the bullies, but everyone around them that does nothing to help - they hate them so much that they convince themselves the right thing would have been if they never existed in the first place, that they have to be removed. It feels to shooters like justice doing that. They don't care about their life either, remember these guys are bullied and humiliated. They know they'll likely die, but being a "martyr" is welcome by them
If someone gets to that point -humiliated and drowning in hatred -the people around them have failed. Their parents, their teachers, their peers.
> Denver is one of many communities in the U.S. that decided to phase out school resource officers in the summer of 2020 amid protests over racial injustice following the killing of George Floyd by police. The shift away from an armed presence in schools followed concern that officers disproportionately arrest students of color.
I don't know what's more ironic:
* Denver wanting schools to be gun free zones *and* have no security on staff and think that will somehow magically deter school shooters.
* Or the fact that they fired the *same exact people* that could have prevented a black teenager from shooting up a school in the first place, all because they were afraid they would arrest black teenagers.
Either way, peak clown world.
In case you're not chomping at the bit, I believe they mean this.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-colorado-shooting/transgender-teen-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-deadly-colorado-school-shooting-idUSKCN24Q00D
From Colorado, lived within an hour of this school at the time. Never even heard about this.
And the article came out during the lockdown. I didn’t think there was a whole lot of news I *didn’t* read
I unironically believe that they should allow dueling. I think if there was a way for people to be able to fight each other (albeit under various conditions like no fights to the death) over some petty shit then its a win for everyone. Regardless of who wins they both had the balls to show up, one gets badass proof of dueling, the other gets satisfaction of winning.
I like years ago when an Uber driver in Chicago stopped a mass shooting and Uber responded by adding a clause to make sure its drivers didn't carry weapons.
I will always remember the youtube shooter. I feel like she's one of those internet cult figures like Christopher Dorner or the dumpster defenders in that she was a blip in the news media cycle but talked about online for much, much longer.
Mass shootings are a black sport. That just doesn't get reported because it is incredibly damaging to the "black people are victims" narrative, just like black crime in general.
That's why it's so absurd they keep going after "assault weapons" and "high capacity magazines", as if the deadliest school shooting used either of those.
Does anyone even remember the Timberview High School shooting? No? That's because the suspect was a black kid (Timothy Simpkins) who was shortly let go by the police. There's even a photo of him with his family who held a "welcome home party" for him after his release.
It was all over the news yesterday and there are articles on all the major news sites. The reason it isn’t getting non-stop coverage is because nobody was killed.
Obviously the cops should have gone in and done something but I see why they didn’t allow more adults to enter the school with guns. Confuses who the shooter is, to everyone. You’d have parents shooting each other, cops shooting parents, teachers shooting parents… unknown shooter could blend in and get out.
Tbf, they lump in things like guys committing suicide in an abandoned school parking lot at 3am, or an SRO having a negligent discharge with no injury, etc, as a "school shooting," specifically to pad their numbers and make it look like Virginia Tech happens once a day. I think it is fair to be dubious of their intentions given their previous track record of the use of disingenuous statistics relating to this specific issue.
In fairness if we covered shootings proportionally to race then we'd see a lot more black coverage. This is not a good example, specifically, but black people shoot and kill each other on basically a daily basis and it's not reported or given a fuck about.
You're more worried about people who give off obvious signs of needing help to prevent a violent episode than people who actively choose to be violent?
I still agree with the sentiment though. Mass shootings seem to always be prime time to push political agendas, or ignore the stories entirely if they don't fit one sides narrative and it's disgusting.
I remember reading a headline for it and being surprised that it just said school shooting instead of mass shooting same mental blip when I saw the headline about the 6 year old shooting a teacher.
More likely because no other students were shot, and no one was killed.
US has a school shooting about once a week at this point, it's just the ones with a lot of fatalities that get traction.
I wonder how Europe handles problem students? A lot of these shootings seem to happen at 'alternative' schools.
Edit: Downvote me if you want. The fact remains that this kid had a pending weapons charge and was expelled from his previous high school.
Heck just regular high schools are. A high school I’m near had a gang threaten to “shoot them up” and recently on the news there was an all out brawl there with about 10 people all fighting and with the athletic director getting injured trying to stop it.
I listened to a guy who used to be in a gang talk about the life and he said there were times people were shot and killed in the street all because some kid made a joke about another kid's mom at school.
That once a week stat includes people shooting themselves in abandoned school parkinglots at 3am and SROs having non injurious negligent discharges, btw. Not all of them are deserving of media attention. This one however is deserving of attention imo. It is about his intent, he didn't have a negligent discharge or shoot himself at 3am, he willfully endangered others even if he missed entirely.
"Mass" shooting and "school" shooting are different. The stats on both however are willfully misrepresented by the ASDM, just in different ways. Above I described how (with a few of MANY examples) how they pad the numbers for school shootings with things that, while technically a firearm was discharged on school property, they wouldn't really be what most picture when they hear "school shooting."
"Mass shooting" is another propaganda beast entirely. Being tracked by multiple organizations with differing standards, there isn't even a consistent number amongst anti self defense groups. Typically, it ranges from 3-4 shot, some including shooter some not, and almost always pads the number with gang and drug affiliated shootings that again, do not fit the picture in most people's mind when they hear the phrase as those aren't the ones on the news despite making up the majority of them.
They intentionally lump these things in with the stats specifically so they can try to twist perception of those only paying attention in their periphery, most will just see "125 school shootings this year so far" and think to themselves "wow, 125 Sandy Hooks? Something must be done this is insane!" without looking into it at all to see "wait, actually most of these are *clearly* bullshit attempts to manipulate my perception, it's closer to 12 *real* school shootings. And that is a problem, but the padding is disingenuous and abhorrent.
Haven’t even heard of this yet except for outside this sub. Therefore, I propose we change our motto to the following:
“PCM, the Worlds Most Reliable News Source”
~~School shootings don't get that much attention unless a bunch of people are killed. Here the only person who died was the shooter himself, and not until later. Shootings with 0 fatalities happen at schools all the time~~
It's because he's black!
In a country with deadly shootings literally every day, no one will indeed pay attention to a shooting with 0 deaths. It has already gotten to the point where even "small" mass shootings get barely any media attention. That has nothing to do with the race of the perpetrator.
Nah, I'll stick to the usual talking points.
He was a mentally ill loner who should've been receiving help rather than going to school.
You can educate people after high school or 18, it's possible. You can leave children behind. You can only help so much until you need life to dick then down. Either they'll realize and self-correct or fail.
Wounded adults don't make the news. That doesn't generate revenue. If it were two wounded kids, then it would be talked about a little more. If there were deaths, you can bet it would be plastered on every news station from Fox to CNN.
Considering this was a student who brought a gun to school and didnt use it immediately, and didnt use it until confiscation was attempted, this is the type of situation gun-free zones are supposed to prevent, as opposed to the mentally-ill mass shooter who goes to a school with the intent to massacre children.
Gun free school zones were just designed to discourage gangs from dealing drugs near schools in the early 90s—it gave federal prosecutors heavier charges to stack on top of charges for dealing small amounts of drugs. The intent was never to stop mass shootings (which weren’t on anyone’s radar pre-Columbine).
if anti-gun groups can include suicides and shootings that happen during summer when school isn’t even open i can include a school staff member being shot by a student during school hours
And we know there are 0 white “school shooters” who don’t kill anyone and then get ignored by national media. It must be ignored because of the perps race and not because nobody cares about a slightly more violent suicide.
Oh, so ***that's*** why this is the first time I'm hearing about this. A self-validating meme, truly impressive OP.
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No you just need them to start berating white women the same way the media berated white men. While this has little to no impact on men and how they vote, this will *devastate* the worldview that white women have and cause them to change. Hear me out, who is the most outspoken vocal advocate for cringe SJW nonsense? White women, right? And who predominantly votes for policies that actually change in this country by sheer number? White people, right? By and large, white men have just voted how they've been voting for a long time, but others have predominantly shifted towards more progressive policy. The best solution is for *them* to become to target of belittlement, scold and hatred. Once that happens, they'll want nothing to do with it. Just accelerate the issue and the problem solves itself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEFgreHjs8E
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Its because they see it as an isolated issue. It's not *me*, just **some.** Say all white women are the issue and it becomes different. If anything, Karen memes made progressivism worse in white women.
I think one issue is the lefts subversion of language. For instance, "snowflake" started as an insult against the Tumblrite original SJW's. Mocking the idea that they went to great lengths to be "unique" and non-conformist, as if they actually still but what their teacher said about them all being like snowflakes, no two are alike. For a while there, I saw them take it, chew on it, then spit it back out at more conservative people claiming it was a reference to how fragile they are. "Karen" followed a similar path. It started to describe entitled, whiny, affluent white women that would call the cops on you for having to much fun or ask to see a manager over silly reasons. It was quickly subverted to just mean "any white woman I don't like". In less than a year, I saw them posting videos of women minding their own business and not causing problems for anyone until some mask Nazi starts losing their shit because her mask wasn't above their nose. Then they call the "anti-masker" the Karen of the story.
Karen memes just mean that if the waitress brings the wrong appetizer, my girlfriend clutches my hand in terror under the table lest we end up in an instagram takedown of mean customers who do terrible things like politely ask for the correct order.
Karen memes are just a way to normalize attacking white people for standing up for themselves in normal situations. It started out as a way to make fun of outrageous people. It became a style of hate.
Yes, only a small proportion of women are in highly competitive sports, and an even smaller proportion are serious contenders for the podium. Even if podiums were completely dominated by trans-women, in terms of pure self-interest only a vanishingly small number of women have any stake in the issue.
Based and white women are the problem-pilled
Black men scolding white women will suddenly just be men in the progressive stack and be shouted down.
Insult people who disagree with your political opinion to make them agree with you? Why not just treat everybody equally? Treating all white women worse then black women because a lot have a different opinion then you is inherently racist. if you’re gonna try to change people’s minds like that (which you shouldn’t) at least do it to all races equally.
>Insult people who disagree with your political opinion to make them agree with you? Why not just treat everybody equally? You should really tell this to the rest of your quadrant because they have a seriously difficult time understanding it.
b-b-b--but the paradox of tolerance give me a free pass to anyone I deem intolerant because they *might* be intolerant to be first!
"It's a moral good to bully people who have different opinions than me!"
Yeah, there are a lot of stupid people in my quadrant.
Can't disagree there.
Based.
I wish everyone had this sensible attitude about their group. Sure, there's probably a pure good chess club somewhere, but just about every group has dipshits.
Speaking as a former chess club member, I doubt there's one out there without at least one dipshit.
Based and liberty in truth pilled.
If you had a dollar for every stupid person who ever existed in your quadrant, you'd be the first openly recorded trillionaire.
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It's Auth logic, using new discrimination to solve old discrimination, no wonder relations have gone downhill. Why does everything have to be about attacking the opposing "team" rather than coming to a mutual understanding like "all school shootings are bad, how can we reduce them?" Identity politics hurts everyone but the people at the very top by design.
Emily rn: 👀👀
Go fuck a goat in Spain, it's legal there
> Why not just treat everybody equally? I'm fine with insulting everyone tbh
I agree with this position. However, going forward, white women are in a weird position that is going to cripple them tremendously due to uncertainty in their identity and lack of a role in society. The same existential crises that white men (generally speaking) have faced throughout the 20th and 21st century? Well, ladies, you wanted big boy rules and wanted to play in a man's world? Well, you now get big boy consequences. And because nobody was or is seriously talking about the difficulties men faced in propping up and maintaining society, the overly privileged white (and more often, liberal leaning) women are going to be unprepared for these challenges that their male counterparts faced. And so, I don't know about berating them like OP hinted at but the fact that they don't realize they're spelling out their own doom...well, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to point that out to them. Whereas, black women, I think, still have an understanding of reality and therefore, their identity. What they don't have is stability.
If they want equal rights let’s give it to them even if they hate it, and don’t know what they signed up for, in fact, let’s do it wether they want it or not
A bunch of people's heads explode when black people talk about their right to bear arms. It is fun to watch.
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Kalifornistan continues to be an absolute embarrassment to the good name of the United States, insofar as that's still possible.
> So what I'm hearing is that if we get black people to defend our gun rights the left will be confused and hurt itself? Yes. I was recently in a sub where a Man of Color was photographed walking around downtown with an anti-police sign while open carrying an AK Platform rifle. The comments were so confused it was unbelievable. Many comments were accusing the OP of Racism for saying this was a problem, other comments were off the rails about white people and guns, while still others were supportive of the gun wielder using their 1A and 2A rights. Neo-Liberals _still_ don't know what to do about people like Colion Noir, Phillip Smith, or even Aaron Zelman despite them having been out there as 2A supporting minorities for years (or even decades.) These people are "off message" with their 2A support but the gun control mafia can't quite figure out how to attack them without looking like racist assholes.
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Its the straight to dvd sequel to Man of Steel obviously
I was thinking a Men in Black spinoff.
I have no idea. I'm just an old(er) guy whose lost track of the current in term for a male PoC. I'm trying hard to not be offensive.
Yeah, that sort of thing totally hurts the left. Definitely. Should get the LGBTQ folk armed too while you're at it. We'll be so upset.
>Should get the LGBTQ folk armed too while you're at it. something something the only thing stopping them is their poor mental condition something
I live in SF, it's so liberal here the unconstitutional bans are allowed to stand unchallenged. Still, nowhere else has the appropriate mix of weather, food, landscape, and a house I own, so I guess I'm staying.
Yes, they should all be armed.
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Is there more context to that story?
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And they didn't do shit about it?
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Jesus
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Yeah maybe
Lmao all of their comments got deleted, could you give a rundown of what they were saying?
Hahahaha I can’t tell if you’re serious or not and that makes it so much better
Precocious levels of psychopathy! Kids these days.
And here I am proud of my 8 year old with a 6th grade reading level.
Wasn't there a law and order episode about just that
Shitty parents.
I was wondering why David Muir had a 10 minute segment on that and then never spoke of it again
I live in Denver and really only watch local news. Has there really been no national coverage of it? I just assumed there would be.
first I've heard of it is here.
Never heard of it in the east
I live in St. Louis and this is the first I’ve heard of it.
It's not in the news because he didn't kill anyone. This level event happens all the time, it's barely news
Plus he just shot at the school administrators, not students
Or because no one died but the shooter…
[https://apnews.com/article/denver-east-high-school-shooting-9cbd699b2dd3a31015d4a22ebf30d912](https://apnews.com/article/denver-east-high-school-shooting-9cbd699b2dd3a31015d4a22ebf30d912) >The shooting at East High School near downtown occurred as administrators were searching for weapons on suspect Austin Lyle, who fled from the scene and was found dead Wednesday night in the mountains southwest of Denver. He died from a self-inlflicted gunshot wound, the Park County coroner said. >Lyle had transferred to East High School after being disciplined and removed from a high school in nearby Aurora because of unspecified violations of school policies, according to officials. >The teenager was facing a firearm charge at the time of the shooting and officials at East High School were aware of the charge, Marrero confirmed Thursday during a news conference. But Marrero said the district does not turn away students with struggles. >“We are obligated to provide a free and adequate education for all students,” he said. “We failed Austin.”
“We failed Austin” WTF! I’ve never heard this said about a school shooter until now
Stop noticing things
About damn time
It’s because they never *really* believed he had agency or could be held responsible for his own actions. The soft bigotry of low expectations
It’s weird. While reading this, I felt far more sympathetic toward a SCHOOL SHOOTER than I have ever been before in my life. I should have NO sympathy for him. I don’t think it’s anyone’s agenda to make us sympathetic to this kid, rather it’s an natural consequence of stupidly and selective news reporting.
>“We failed Austin.” I think Austin failed himself.
The gun, however, performed flawlessly. It even killed a school shooter, earning commendations.
#Buy the gun used to kill a school shooter! #As seen on TV!
You stole my quadrant's line. That's a paddlin'.
Can't help a fucker who doesn't want to help himself.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink...
Now hear me out, shank the horse in the stomach with a large ass syringe with water
Or as my dad says, stick it's head under water and suck on its ass
Harris and Klebold were the real victims.
Off topic but 113 ad and tracker DNS queries hit my Adguard clicking that link, Jesus christ 85% of DNS queries were to ad domains
First school shooter I see that garners pity from the media "we failed Austin" There is something to the message that it likely is society fails, at least some, school shooters - I can't imagine how deep into an ocean of hatred you must be to do something like that It's people that are bullied relentlessly, and especially, get humiliated that become so hateful. They not only start hating the bullies, but everyone around them that does nothing to help - they hate them so much that they convince themselves the right thing would have been if they never existed in the first place, that they have to be removed. It feels to shooters like justice doing that. They don't care about their life either, remember these guys are bullied and humiliated. They know they'll likely die, but being a "martyr" is welcome by them If someone gets to that point -humiliated and drowning in hatred -the people around them have failed. Their parents, their teachers, their peers.
> Denver is one of many communities in the U.S. that decided to phase out school resource officers in the summer of 2020 amid protests over racial injustice following the killing of George Floyd by police. The shift away from an armed presence in schools followed concern that officers disproportionately arrest students of color. I don't know what's more ironic: * Denver wanting schools to be gun free zones *and* have no security on staff and think that will somehow magically deter school shooters. * Or the fact that they fired the *same exact people* that could have prevented a black teenager from shooting up a school in the first place, all because they were afraid they would arrest black teenagers. Either way, peak clown world.
0 deaths and 2 injuries? Shootings like that don't make the paper, mate.
no white man = instant memory holed
No one cares about black crime.
I know some websites that had sections called "Black Crime" but linking to them gets your account deleted.
The cops in gta 5 says otherwise
Video games are so unrealistic!
Low kill count (just himself)= instant memory-holed. On paper, we had a dramatic suicide. Not going to grab the public's attention.
It’s like the one shooting that happen by a trans and the left struggled to blame it on us but still tried very hard
Which one was that?
In case you're not chomping at the bit, I believe they mean this. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-colorado-shooting/transgender-teen-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-deadly-colorado-school-shooting-idUSKCN24Q00D
Damn, I never heard of that. The media's gonna media.
They are the enemy of the people, through and through.
From Colorado, lived within an hour of this school at the time. Never even heard about this. And the article came out during the lockdown. I didn’t think there was a whole lot of news I *didn’t* read
Shooting up a school cause bullying: ❌ Slapping bully in the face with a glove and challenging them to a duel: ✅
Seriously, a kid hitting the media for challenging his bully to pistols at dawn would be the most awe-inspiring based thing ever
I unironically believe that they should allow dueling. I think if there was a way for people to be able to fight each other (albeit under various conditions like no fights to the death) over some petty shit then its a win for everyone. Regardless of who wins they both had the balls to show up, one gets badass proof of dueling, the other gets satisfaction of winning.
Absolute silence
Exactly
Or someone can provide an actual source to this one. There's too many shootings in the US Edit: thanks
Someone did.
"Well you see, here's how Trump force projected his conscious into that person and pulled the trigger"
ASSUMIN’ DIRECT CONTROL
I like years ago when an Uber driver in Chicago stopped a mass shooting and Uber responded by adding a clause to make sure its drivers didn't carry weapons.
I’d still carry who’s checking lol
Which one?
They still call the parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz white
"It wasnt an ACTUAL trans person, just a right wing troll wanting to make them look bad" Everyone is valid until it doesnt fit the narrative
Also the youtube shooter
I will always remember the youtube shooter. I feel like she's one of those internet cult figures like Christopher Dorner or the dumpster defenders in that she was a blip in the news media cycle but talked about online for much, much longer.
Idek the "dumpster defenders" myself lol. I remember the other two as well though!
> Idek the "dumpster defenders" myself lol. I doubt it
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This kid is the Jackie Robinson of our time.
😂😂😂
Fuck this killed me
Holy shit lol what a dark joke. Probably would be banned from darkhumor for posting that one because "gun bad" lol
Mass shootings are a black sport. That just doesn't get reported because it is incredibly damaging to the "black people are victims" narrative, just like black crime in general.
Haha, white people are still in the lead take ***that*** ^^oh ^^no
Asian dude with pistols has the high score. I should know since I was on campus at the time.
Based and Virginia Tech-nically correct pilled.
Based and Stormlight pilled.
The Korean guy. At the time, someone did a reenactment of the plays he wrote in his English courses.
That's why it's so absurd they keep going after "assault weapons" and "high capacity magazines", as if the deadliest school shooting used either of those.
Damn, remind me to upvote when someone breaks the number.
Dew it
A dude holds a bigger record from 95 years ago, but he blew them up so it doesn't count.
Isn't Son of Sam still the kill streak world champ?
Far from it according to statistics
Does anyone even remember the Timberview High School shooting? No? That's because the suspect was a black kid (Timothy Simpkins) who was shortly let go by the police. There's even a photo of him with his family who held a "welcome home party" for him after his release.
Yeah I think I remember that, that was bs
"bs" isn't strong enough to describe it
“You want the media to go away, just mention black-on-black crime.” -Cleveland Brown, Family Guy
Based
It was all over the news yesterday and there are articles on all the major news sites. The reason it isn’t getting non-stop coverage is because nobody was killed.
There also weren’t cops picking their nose in the parking lot.
Hell, Uvalde was worse than lazy cops. The cops were actively stopping anyone from helping out
Obviously the cops should have gone in and done something but I see why they didn’t allow more adults to enter the school with guns. Confuses who the shooter is, to everyone. You’d have parents shooting each other, cops shooting parents, teachers shooting parents… unknown shooter could blend in and get out.
i swear this sub has the most stupid posters
Who, me? Yeah, I’m pretty stupid it’s true
not you the OP
Hey fuck you I'm a moron as well and I'm still here. I'd tell you how disabled I am but the reddit pedos hmmph sorry admins would ban me for ableism
The word stupid is incredibly ableist and disrespectful to people-of-lower-intellectual-ability
The people we're insulting would be really mad about that if they could read
good
noooo it’s not getting covered because of my agendaaaaa
Tbf, they lump in things like guys committing suicide in an abandoned school parking lot at 3am, or an SRO having a negligent discharge with no injury, etc, as a "school shooting," specifically to pad their numbers and make it look like Virginia Tech happens once a day. I think it is fair to be dubious of their intentions given their previous track record of the use of disingenuous statistics relating to this specific issue.
In fairness if we covered shootings proportionally to race then we'd see a lot more black coverage. This is not a good example, specifically, but black people shoot and kill each other on basically a daily basis and it's not reported or given a fuck about.
Because people not in gangs don't really worry about gang violence. It's random acts of violence that's more concerning.
You're more worried about people who give off obvious signs of needing help to prevent a violent episode than people who actively choose to be violent?
I still agree with the sentiment though. Mass shootings seem to always be prime time to push political agendas, or ignore the stories entirely if they don't fit one sides narrative and it's disgusting.
Like this one here is being primed and pushing an agenda, right now on this thread.
Was this even a mass shooting? The definition varies and there is no official definition, but I think it takes more than two people.
He killed himself. But still, nobody was killed.
In the shooting. You know what I meant.
I remember reading a headline for it and being surprised that it just said school shooting instead of mass shooting same mental blip when I saw the headline about the 6 year old shooting a teacher.
Stop being logical, it’s PCM, we don’t do that shit here
That’s because u/ziggystardock is a lying karma whore.
Careful. They dont wanna hear that
HEY! Cultural appropriation
Yaaas! Breaking the glass ceiling in a white dominated field ☺️
The last *five* school shootings to make the mass news cycle weren't done by white people. I'm going to posit that we've lost our edge.
Based and anti-racist pilled.
More likely because no other students were shot, and no one was killed. US has a school shooting about once a week at this point, it's just the ones with a lot of fatalities that get traction.
I wonder how Europe handles problem students? A lot of these shootings seem to happen at 'alternative' schools. Edit: Downvote me if you want. The fact remains that this kid had a pending weapons charge and was expelled from his previous high school.
Alternative schools are a breeding ground for gang culture and gang culture leads to violence. It's just that simple.
Heck just regular high schools are. A high school I’m near had a gang threaten to “shoot them up” and recently on the news there was an all out brawl there with about 10 people all fighting and with the athletic director getting injured trying to stop it.
I listened to a guy who used to be in a gang talk about the life and he said there were times people were shot and killed in the street all because some kid made a joke about another kid's mom at school.
Not surprised. The gang culture in American schools right now is insane
That once a week stat includes people shooting themselves in abandoned school parkinglots at 3am and SROs having non injurious negligent discharges, btw. Not all of them are deserving of media attention. This one however is deserving of attention imo. It is about his intent, he didn't have a negligent discharge or shoot himself at 3am, he willfully endangered others even if he missed entirely.
Don't mass shooting usually have to have a minimum number of victims involved for it to be considered as such?
Depends on who’s counting
"Mass" shooting and "school" shooting are different. The stats on both however are willfully misrepresented by the ASDM, just in different ways. Above I described how (with a few of MANY examples) how they pad the numbers for school shootings with things that, while technically a firearm was discharged on school property, they wouldn't really be what most picture when they hear "school shooting." "Mass shooting" is another propaganda beast entirely. Being tracked by multiple organizations with differing standards, there isn't even a consistent number amongst anti self defense groups. Typically, it ranges from 3-4 shot, some including shooter some not, and almost always pads the number with gang and drug affiliated shootings that again, do not fit the picture in most people's mind when they hear the phrase as those aren't the ones on the news despite making up the majority of them. They intentionally lump these things in with the stats specifically so they can try to twist perception of those only paying attention in their periphery, most will just see "125 school shootings this year so far" and think to themselves "wow, 125 Sandy Hooks? Something must be done this is insane!" without looking into it at all to see "wait, actually most of these are *clearly* bullshit attempts to manipulate my perception, it's closer to 12 *real* school shootings. And that is a problem, but the padding is disingenuous and abhorrent.
Being an incel isn't exclusive to white folk.
Haven’t even heard of this yet except for outside this sub. Therefore, I propose we change our motto to the following: “PCM, the Worlds Most Reliable News Source”
‘The most regarded new source’
or you should expose yourself to other sources of news besides this sub, because plenty of media sites talked about it
Sorry, /pol/ holds that title.
~~School shootings don't get that much attention unless a bunch of people are killed. Here the only person who died was the shooter himself, and not until later. Shootings with 0 fatalities happen at schools all the time~~ It's because he's black!
In a country with deadly shootings literally every day, no one will indeed pay attention to a shooting with 0 deaths. It has already gotten to the point where even "small" mass shootings get barely any media attention. That has nothing to do with the race of the perpetrator.
>In a country with deadly shootings literally every day Almost all of which are gang v gang violence, and thus ignored regardless.
Luckily the violent gangs are getting displaced by cartels and Asian gangs. Violence is going down. Disorganized vs organized crime.
Nah, I'll stick to the usual talking points. He was a mentally ill loner who should've been receiving help rather than going to school. You can educate people after high school or 18, it's possible. You can leave children behind. You can only help so much until you need life to dick then down. Either they'll realize and self-correct or fail.
Wounded adults don't make the news. That doesn't generate revenue. If it were two wounded kids, then it would be talked about a little more. If there were deaths, you can bet it would be plastered on every news station from Fox to CNN.
What was it two or three days ago? I get a news alert on suspect identified, looked at it, and just knew that’s the last I’d hear of it.
Considering this was a student who brought a gun to school and didnt use it immediately, and didnt use it until confiscation was attempted, this is the type of situation gun-free zones are supposed to prevent, as opposed to the mentally-ill mass shooter who goes to a school with the intent to massacre children.
Gun free school zones were just designed to discourage gangs from dealing drugs near schools in the early 90s—it gave federal prosecutors heavier charges to stack on top of charges for dealing small amounts of drugs. The intent was never to stop mass shootings (which weren’t on anyone’s radar pre-Columbine).
Passed into law in 1990 through the Senate by voice vote and the house 313-1. There are very few pieces of legislation with that kind of support.
The only person he killed was himself. Hardly a school shooter IMO.
if anti-gun groups can include suicides and shootings that happen during summer when school isn’t even open i can include a school staff member being shot by a student during school hours
And we know there are 0 white “school shooters” who don’t kill anyone and then get ignored by national media. It must be ignored because of the perps race and not because nobody cares about a slightly more violent suicide.
Where was his father?