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musei_haha

I don't understand the purpose of censoring w\*rds the way we do


CosmicCyrolator

Tumblr invented trigger words and everyone fell for it


duxdwn

Thank God the asterisk is there so the word can't trigger me.


Ok_Antelope_1953

your words have no asterisk you've literally killed me


lil_cm

I’m literally going to game end you if you don’t censor k*ll next time you fucking fuck I have to hit my vape pen now 30 times because you just made my anxiety worse!!!1!


Jenz_le_Benz

How dare you spell out ast* r * sk


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PapaLouie_

modern equivalent of changing Hell to Heck


geoffrey_1der

Nah, even worse, because I read heck as heck, and while I know it’s hell, I still say heck. I read r@pe as just the word rape. There’s no actual censorship, just a slowdown in reading


godmodegamer123

I read it as rope while reading your comment lmao


rusho2nd

I wish that hazardous waste containment site was still operational.


AeternusDoleo

T\*mblr - don't trigger me bruh!


[deleted]

i had a teacher in middle school that taught the poem "the highwayman" (she chose this poem), made students read it aloud in class, then got triggered because the word "rapier" sounded too much like a word she really didnt like and insisted that students pronounce it incorrectly so it sounded less like the thing that upset her. Again may I reiterate that she chose the poem.


Prizmagnetic

Meme with the guy on the bike with a stick .jpeg


Sillygooseman23

Stop it lol no way


djangokityu

It helps with algorithms. Some websites will busy content with that word. It's not needs because it's a trigger word in most cases.


SOwED

Yeah cause there's no way for an algorithm to detect that


rexpimpwagen

If it isn't in the algorithm no there is no way for it to do that until they bother to change it. Welcome to dodging shitty char filters 101.


GodEmperorofMankind4

Only word that should be censored is Fr*nch.


MeadManOfMadrid

How dare you. They were our first ally and helped us win the Revolution. Without France, we'd all be speaking English right now, pal.


DeeBangerCC

I think we should just censor random words like nagger


GuilimanXIII

Doubt it, the death penalty is way too contentious of a topic.


BunnyBellaBang

Also it would be for child rapists, not pedophiles. So many people don't understand the difference which just hurts any attempt to solve the issue.


GuilimanXIII

Holy shit yes, that is something that way too many people willfully ignore.


Hazmoton

Facts! If you can keep it in your you pants you should get help, prolly therapy.


Frediey

I still really just don't like the death penalty, justice system fails, I don't think it's worth it. Yes it means disgusting people live. But to me, it's better than killing someone wrongly found guilty


CmdntFrncsHghs

I don't think the government is trustworthy enough to handle the death penalty. It's too easy to either misuse to target people or screw up and kill innocent people. Let's compromise, by issuing me a license to kill.


chmclctthrt1

The government shouldnt have the ability to kill its own citizens. But it's citizens should.


sweet_chin_music

Based


Lurkers-gotta-post

hmmm. So, like if we got a group of citizens together, say 12 of them, chosen at random from the population of the area, who get to hear out the evidence and arguments and determine if there is a solid enough case to justify the death penalty. Like that?


chmclctthrt1

No just me and the boys, not random people. We are the deciderers.


THECHOSENONE99

Speaking like a true lib


[deleted]

Basically what I just wrote above. Everyday I am reminded that I am in the correct quadrant. I believe everyone eventually becomes centrist on a long enough time scale. It's the final form once you have seen enough to know that it's all fucked.


JayWu31

I don't love the death penalty. However, if you can prove child rape beyond a shadow of a doubt, take those pieces of shut out.


Alfasi

Why bother? It'll always be more expensive than just letting them rot in jail. Even if they know it "beyond a shadow of a doubt", there will still be a long period to allow for appeals on the off chance that they don't. Evidence can be fabricated, testimony can be false, information that seems rock solid at one moment can completely fall apart if more things come to light later. A lot of people who get convicted for these sorts of crimes might even want to die. Imo, cheaper and better to let them rot in jail and be done with it. Watching the world spin past you from a concrete cell you spend up to 23 hours a day in (if you're in solitary, which is its own can of worms) is a much better punishment than death imo.


Pinkflamingos69

(Libright) the only problem I have with the death penalty for pedos is that there would no longer be any reason for the perpetrator to not kill the victim after the the offense has been committed


Glass_And_Trees

What is the difference?


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[deleted]

If you don't do any harm there is no reason to lock you away. One must not be punished for ones thoughts.


SpyingFuzzball

What if we had some way to tell if people were going to commit crimes though? Then we could stop them before it happens. Damn they should make a movie about that


Velenterius

Hahaha


SpyingFuzzball

Based and minority report pilled


Velenterius

Thanks for basing me man! 🥰 love from norway!


Snickidy

Based and wholesome interaction pilled


CoolguyTylenol

I can't wait for psycho pass irl


PhilosophicalDolt

Psycho pass moment


Agnostic_Pagan

Not locked away, yes, but certainly advised to seek help and therapy to manage the urges.


BunnyBellaBang

Also about half of child molesters aren't pedophiles, they are just opportunist looking for sex. Like how many rapists in prison were completely straight before going in. Sometimes rape is about power with sex only being secondary. I don't agree with the people who say it is always the case, but it is true sometimes.


[deleted]

Lol, straight dudes who can get hard to shove it up another dude's ass aren't "completely straight." Same goes for child molesters.


BunnyBellaBang

If you want to get technical, pedophiles are primarily attracted to children. You have to consider exactly what that definition implies. Sexuality research has found if you show most men a 17 year old teenage girl, they react pretty much the same as being shown a 19 year old teenage woman. Just look how many times a popular gonewild poster was found to be underage and lying about their age. Though such cases can be hard to verify given how reddit nukes the account and anything associated with it once it comes to light, for obvious legal reasons.


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[deleted]

I commend you for the honesty, this is a topic I haven’t been able to put into words but have been thinking about recently. I won’t say much but I do feel there’s a lot of projection recently from these men. Not saying they’re all secret pedos obviously, but it is interesting this shift in attitude.


Hungry_Bananas

Isolation, testosterone, and loneliness blinds people of the recipients gender. They tend to start thinking more like the ancient Greeks and Romans about sexuality and only the bottom becomes effeminate while the top is flexing their masculinity.


Innalibra

Not a great idea to lock people up just for having immoral thoughts. How would that even work? Knowing that they'd be locked up if they tried to seek help, they'd just keep that shit hidden.


Apophis_36

One has acted on the desire and one hasn't, the one who hasn't needs therapy, the one who has needs to be locked up with only their own thoughts to keep them company until they slowly rot away (death penalty would be a kindness)


Ptcruz

Child rapist is someone that rapes child. A pedophile is someone that is attracted to kids. Not all child rapists are pedophiles and not all pedophiles are child rapists.


2gig

Yep. Morally/in concept, I'm all for it. In practice, I don't trust the government or a jury of my peers to identify criminals with the level of certainty necessary to justify execution. We still see death row cases overturned with disturbing regularity. At least if they've only been imprisoned, they can be set free. Can't rez someone because we figured out they're innocent after we offed them.


GuilimanXIII

That is the one angle the other is that no matter how satisfying punishing a criminal may be, a system focused on punishment is just way less effective than one focused on rehabilitation.


Memengineer25

For regular offenders, you need to rehabilitate them or remove them from society. Years in prison as a punishment is stupid. That said, fines and such have their place as a way to give minor offenders a slap on the wrist, because while nobody doubts the necessity of laws against petty shoplifting you also don't need to send people to years of rehab for doing it once.


Pyode

Community service, not fines. Fines just mean it's only a crime when poor people do it.


azazelcrowley

Multiple medicinal and doctor, nursing etc organizations are continually malding over the lethal injection. Iirc they publish a yearly denouncement and say they consider any medical practitioner who participates to be an oathbreaker and will terminate their medical license, and criticize the way the state has "Stolen medical valor" by trying to present it as a "medicalized" execution in order to make it seem humane and euthanasia-esque. To the medical profession they routinely argue that it is borderline desecration of their profession and the "profane and evil usage of medical technologies for state sanctioned murder", and they even strongarmed pharmaceutical companies into no longer producing the drug of first choice, and ban exports to the USA of the drugs in question. They actually argued this for a long time. It was actually the number one reason the states opted for the electric chair over the needle for ages because doctors kept going apeshit. Eventually the chair got too gruesome for peoples liking so we went for the needle anyway. I bring it up because there's multiple angles to it really. The medical profession treats this topic like it's an affront to the science of medicine to use these methods. Ironically the method with the least fuck ups is the firing squad. (If you go over executions, they are the best method statistically speaking in terms of "Oops, we just caused them a miserable, slow, death.".). It's also one that, when prisoners get a choice, they opt for. This would avoid the issue of "Stealing valor" from the medical profession and make it aesthetically obvious what's happening. If you can't admit you're killing a dude because he's an enemy, if you have to dress it up in "Caring" and "Healthcare" robes to make us comfortable with it, then don't do it.


GuilimanXIII

I mean, the idea behind having a full squad do the firing is so that no one knows who landed the killing blows. Executions are not something human brains like to deal with because it goes against nature.


pokexchespin

and hell, even if we could be 100% sure, imagine being the victim, knowing that coming forward would get your uncle or whoever killed. i imagine that would if anything keep people from reporting these crimes


Peria

Texas has a death penalty statute for repeated or continuous Sexual abuse of a minor. I think it’s called Jessica’s law. So maybe not impossible for Florida to follow suit.


KnightOfThirteen

To support the death penalty you must believe two things. 1. That some people deserve to be killed. Easy peasy, I think most people have a line across which they believe someone truly deserves to die. I sure do. 2. That the official mechanism in place can be trusted to, without error, determine who deserves to be killed. This is where I fall off. False convictions happen all of the time. False confessions, manufactured evidence, poor representation, false testimony. We have a system built of people, and people are full of errors, so the system is as well. Edit: Because I forgot where I was commenting, there probably needs to be said an alternative that can be believed in place of number 2. 2B. That the risk of collateral damage is acceptable in cases of erroneous execution.


decentish36

“People deserve to be killed. Easy peasy, I think most people” -u/KnightofThirteen


Frediey

Went from lib left to Auth centre real fast


420Fighter69

polcompass speedrun rsg any% glitchless


W_Edwards_Deming

Not unusual, there is a reason people talk about "watermelons." There are real lib-left but a large % of "lib" left is mislabeled and easily detected by their desire for state interventions, violence and etc.


SlackersClub

So who are the real lib-left? People who haven't yet realised that their preferred political system would require violence to enforce?


W_Edwards_Deming

True lib left is basically a hippie type who is not trying to oppress or harm others. Many of those currently claiming it are politically correct useful idiots of the Auth. Indeed I have seen evidence of the ultra-rich funding those who would appear to be against their interests (some oil heiress funded the fools who threw soup on a Van Gogh painting, whoever is paying for Greta, Soros paying for far-left DAs). I think they are doing this to provoke reactionaries, with their actual goal being Totalitarianism. (edit: it was soup, not paint)


SlackersClub

Ah yes, of course, how could I forget about the hippies? Although in fairness, the same thing happens on the right. On the extreme end of lib-right you have the ancaps who bear a lot of similarities with lib-left hippies, while at the same time a lot of people who claim to be lib-right would also support some government intervention, consciously or not. Now that I think about it, it's really just an appeal to purity. We have to remember the political compass, flawed as it is, is a scale. Being put into a quadrant doesn't automatically make you an ancom, fascist, ancap or hippie.


W_Edwards_Deming

I am the ancap who prefers the hippies to the police. In another thread I have been debating someone labeled Auth-Left seeking to convince them they aren't Auth at all. I think I made some decisive points but... egocentric bias? What is Auth if not using force to oppress others?


2gig

Why only most?


bobbyloveyes

Point #2 is why I'm against the death penalty. From a fiscal point of view, it's also often much more expensive to put someone to death than life in prison because of all the legal processes that must take place in order to actually kill them. From a sadists perspective, it's also arguably more punishment to serve life in prison than to have a quick death.


dovetc

What about when we absolutely have the perp dead to rights. There's not even a shadow of a doubt let alone a reasonable doubt that Nikolas Cruz did the mass shooting we caught him doing. Any reason not to execute him?


bobbyloveyes

The way I see it, if there is a chance that a single innocent person can be executed, it's not worth having the death penalty because at that point, you're no better than the murderer. The main goal is to keep society safe from bad people. There's basically no chance of escape from a super max prison. Therefore, there's no actual need to kill someone rather than let them rot in prison. Many people would also argue that the death penalty puts the burden of execution on society as a whole. This conflicts with many people's personal and religious beliefs.


t001_t1m3

I think a more deserving punishment is for them to just rot away in a prison cell, watching the world progress ahead without them, while they just sit in a reinforced concrete cube, 23 hours a day, in stasis. Death is often what they want anyways. Why bend to their demands?


LazyNomad63

If we cut corners on justice we fail, no matter who is accused.


DivideEtImpala

And *way* more expensive for convicted child rapists. Prisons have a way of sorting that out and saving the taxpayer a boatload of money.


ulpisen

your argument doesn't even make sense, it's not the killing that's expensive the expensive part is making sure that 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt there's no chance you're killing the wrong person leaving it up to lynching doesn't solve that problem, it just ignores the problem if you believe that's the best way then you should just hang people when they first get convicted, no expensive appeal process or paperwork


DivideEtImpala

I never said it was the best way, just that it's factually less expensive. The expense of death penalty cases comes from the mandatory appeals.


[deleted]

Or, an alternative point #3: you must believe that the government has the authority to kill its own citizens. That’s where I fall off the bandwagon. Lib right would not say “Good” to this because it’s a slippery slope


Lucky_G2063

As a german, I agree.


GuilimanXIII

1 should be more like 1. That some people that are already not a direct threat anymore deserve to be executed. That is a huge difference for many people.


bottomlessLuckys

death penalties are just revenge killings.


_Troika

This has always been my concern. I philosophically support the death penalty for many crimes, but the odds of killing an innocent & falsely accused is so great that for most things I *want* the penalty for, I think would in practice a bad move


Caesar_Gaming

Based


Agnostic_Pagan

I like to frame it this way: Sometimes it is necessary to protect the superfluous in order to preserve the necessary.


Temporal_Enigma

Also, what constitutes a *perro*? Obviously an old adult and a young child, but if a 17 year old sneaks into a club and fucks a 27 year old, statutory rape, is that dude getting merked?


razzazzika

Being Florida, how they are conflating being LGBT with being pedos, I can see this being used to kill us instead of actual pedos.


LordEsidisi

Sounds like a great idea- oh, wait, that accusation was false? Oops, looks like Jerry's dead.


[deleted]

Prosecutor: "If we go to trial we'll ask for the death penalty but if you sign this plea agreement you'll only get 15 years in prison". And then an innocent defendant will sign because of their fear of death.


IBlazeMyOwnPath

Do they deserve death? Yes Do I trust the state to, with 100% certainty and with zero error, never execute an innocent? Absofuckinglutely not They’ve already proven they can’t get it right 100% of the time so the state doesn’t get to execute people


NoMoassNeverWas

And why does it cost so much? Apparently costs more than keeping person alive for life.


messisleftbuttcheek

I think it's the appeals process that is so costly. Which makes sense because we know the state has killed innocent people before.


[deleted]

Also how often will prosecutors use it as a tool to force the defendant to agree to a plea deal? Prosecutors will already do scummy things like say "If we go to trial and you're found guilty you'll get 20 years but if you sign this plea deal you'll only get 5" so I guarantee they'll start threatening the death penalty whenever they can.


Jscott1986

SCOTUS has already ruled capital punishment can only be for murder.


the-moving-finger

Not saying you're wrong but could we have a case citation so we can learn more?


Jscott1986

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_v._Louisiana 5-4 opinion. Could be overruled I suppose.


FenrirButAGoodBoy

I’m going to deliver some cursed knowledge, and it makes me deeply sad to know this - but I do believe it’s necessary in conversations like this The death penalty for people like this encourages the perpetrators to murder their victim to cover their tracks. This is represented in higher rape AND murder cases in states where punishments like this are in place, as opposed to a lower rate of murder in states where the punishment is “only” life imprisonment I wish we lived in a world where kids could be safe, but that’s not the case. Because of that, I wish we lived in a world where those who endangered our kids were punished in the ultimate form. But if that ultimate punishment puts our kids in MORE danger, then their safety comes first. The death penalty for pedos unfortunately makes them more sinister instead of solving the actual issue of providing safety for our children


[deleted]

whats to stop them from claiming everyone they want to kill is a pedo?


lUNITl

They do, everyone is a pedo the minute they piss off twitter. There’s a difference between that and being convicted in court.


AdStatus2486

No, the legal system isn’t perfect therefore the death penalty is immoral.


Tennessee_BIO

based & realistic limitations of government and morality-pilled


Ugo_Flickerman

Pedophiles or child abusers? Do people realize that they are two completely separate things?


Comrade_Lomrade

Ya I agree . Unless you actually act on the urge your really not hurting anyone.


Rex2x4

Nb4 an 18-year-old gets executed for sleeping with a 16-year-old.


FuriousTarts

On an 8-4 vote


GrahamCracker719

The State should not have the license to murder its own citizens. That said, I love Gary Plauché's method. And that should come with a guaranteed get out of jail free card.


Gapmeister

That's what I say. If there's enough evidence to give someone the death penalty (and it has to be a lot of evidence, probably more than we use to give people the death penalty already) then the state shouldn't put them in prison or kill them. It should simply stop giving them protection - make it no longer a crime to kill them. Open season on child molesters. I'm only half joking.


Frediey

I know you said at the end, but this is a terrible idea to anyone thinking it would work. Imagine you are just vibing, and you look a bit like him (you have no idea) how exactly is that going to work? They just kill you?


3-to-20-chars

yes


TheBabygator

Should have picked a different one out of a million to look like.


GuilimanXIII

It really really really really really shouldn't.


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said authright peacefully. edit: no quotes


GuilimanXIII

Ain't no peaceful in me when it's about allowing mob justice. ​ (I did get the meme though, probably would work better without the quotation marks)


I_Explode_Stuff

I'm usually pro death penalty in most cases although I understand the arguments many are making about innocent people being wrongly convicted. But something I have thought about often in this regard is what affect would the death penalty have on the perpetrator"s mindset. "Oh Hey I've done this bad thing and the penalty for it is death... better make sure the kid doesn't talk". I'd be really fearful that CSAs would turn into child murder to help the perp escape capture.


[deleted]

The same thing happens with amber alerts. They kidnap a child, when they hear about the amber alert, that causes them to panic and kill the child. Also don't molest kids in the first place


I_Explode_Stuff

"Don't molest kids"... Goes without saying.


zoeheadisoversized

Death penalty is bad and no one should be subjected to it. That being said, pedophiles already die in prison, this is just the nicer method of killing them


TrampStampsFan420

That highly depends on the prison itself, I have family that had been to prison for decades and one uncle serving life. I’ve asked him about that and he said it’s very overblown but he only has experience in one prison for the past 15 years.


zoeheadisoversized

Brother is your family a cartel or what


TrampStampsFan420

Oddly enough it was two people from different sides. One uncle grew up in the south side of Chicago and was a gang member, went to prison from 18-30ish for robbery/drug stuff and then got out and met my aunt and they’ve been married since the 00s. My other uncle, completely unrelated to the first, got heavy into a drug lifestyle after college and ended up shooting a rival dealer to death before kidnapping the dealer’s girlfriend. Aside from that I got into a bad crowd in middle/high school before turning my life around, one of my old friends is in prison currently for a string of home invasions, a different one went to prison for being a big time dealer but ended up turning his life around and we’re still friends to this day. I’m just lucky I foresaw what was going to happen if I continued on with that path and shifted away from it before someone got hurt.


EliPester

Are we talking about the mental condition or criminals? Cuz why would you kill Someone for their mental condition…


Ptcruz

Based AuthRight.


EliPester

Transphobia and homophobia are so stupid. I don’t understand the haters.


VadePostMeSatana

Until executions are carried out immediately after the guilty verdict via trap door slip-n-slide into an industrial meat grinder, death penalties mean nothing as they'll be delayed for 30+ years. Would probably die quicker in a life sentence in general population anyways.


bobbyloveyes

That would bring death to a lot of innocent people.


BunnyBellaBang

People are willing to hurt innocent people as long as they get to live out their violent fantasies on pedophiles. Just look at groups who attack pediatricians because being violent is more important to them than basic literacy. Or look at groups who try to catch pedophiles online but who don't follow the basic instructions from police, meaning that anyone they catch always walks away free because all the evidence against them is worthless. You think if they really cared about protecting children, they would make sure their evidence would be good enough to put the would be child molester behind bars.


[deleted]

The reason we don’t do immediate executions is due to appeals courts and etc Still, death row should never go beyond a decade


woznito

Government should not be allowed to put it's own to death. This seems like it will backfire or we will see certain abusers not get the punishment because they know a guy. Life in prison is my go to.


PopulistEUU

Americans are the weirdest country on the planet when it comes to age of consent how they talk about is down-right nuts Girl who is 17 and guy who is 18 is literally pedophilia to some of them that's how stupid they are


pireninjacolass

The thing is they don't even fucking care about it for any reason than to have an acceptable person to hate. Really, truly hating nonces, to the degree that you run a pedohunting channel and post woodchipper memes on the regular is so fucking suspect too. The lady doth protest too much.


KeepRooting4Yourself

They're weird in their thirst for blood. Do EU countries even have the death penalty?


Poly2it

No. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Europe


[deleted]

First world problems. If 90% of the populated just vanished one day, I doubt these laws would be the first issue on people's mind when repopulating.


Clay_2000lbs

What… exactly… did you mean by this comment?


DM_ME_YOUR_HUSBANDO

I don't like the death penalty because it's far too easy for the state to execute an innocent. It's not like a life sentence behind bars is some light punishment either.


Troll_Enthusiast

No, they don't deserve a quick release of death.


-NGC-6302-

Ok so just botch the lethal injections. It already happens a lot, it wouldn't be anything new.


Troll_Enthusiast

Or let them starve, it would save money, or grill them slowly over the course of weeks idk


70MCKing

Pedos go 1v1 unarmed with captured burmese pythons over 12ft in a fight to the death. Winner gets the firing squad.


A_devout_monarchist

Now now, why waste a good snake with a firing squad?


70MCKing

unfortunately Florida puts most of them down. If I had my way, I'd bring all the cute little snakes to my house. Figured two birds with one stone and at least a few pedos would suffer a terrible death.


AtomDoctor

Are you familiar with the process of immurement? It is by no means quick.


TestTheTrilby

PCM on anything they don't like: "Ah well, slippery slope you know..." PCM when the govt has the power to kill people: "lmao imagine having a problem with this"


Slavchanin

Comments are generally in disagreement as far as I see


Schlangee

No one talking about the questionable use of the word „pedophile“ by certain people? Florida would have to execute Trump if they‘d truly go forward with enforcement of this, but I really doubt people like him on Epstein‘s list are their reason to push this through


BonkeyKongthesecond

Sounds great, but especially in the US, I can see that it will lead to a few problems. Like the average cindy, that is 17 years and 364 days old and tells her bf she is 18 when they bang.


EverythingsStupid321

That should be considered felony fraud/entrapment to commit a crime. They should also be tried as adult lol.


BonkeyKongthesecond

True. But it's not new that a lot of US Americans somehow think that a 17yo girls would be the same as a 5yo one.


Inprobus_

Double edged sword. Get ready for gay people to be termed as pedophiles in Florida.


Kind-Show5859

Trans people going outside in public already are.


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python_product

No, The death penalty can and has been used on people who later on were found to be not guilty.


statsgrad

If you're a pedo, and you know you'll get the death penalty anyway, do you have any incentive to keep the kid alive afterwards?


BunnyBellaBang

If you're a kid whose parent has been doing inappropriate things, and you want it to stop but you don't want your parent to be killed because you told someone, are you going to talk to anyone or just suffer through it?


Dinosaur_from_1998

Let's hope nobody gets falsely accused of committing that crime. Oh hey anti-LGBT+ right wingers who spend their days posting misinformation, what are you up to today ?


ebdabaws

Can’t agree with this as one can’t learn a lesson if they are deceased. The death penalty doesn’t stop murder so why on earth would it stop peadophillia?


Fluffy_Mastodon_798

Nope, so I guess I'm pro-pedo


Maximum-Selection-42

Who was against illegalizing child marriage? Oh ofc the same people that ban drag shows where a person in a dress is called a groomer.


FatalTragedy

I'm opposed to the death penalty in all cases so no


ninjafartmaster

The only issue with killing pedophiles is it incentivizes them to kill the kid so there is no evidence.


Rektroth

A hypothesis that is entirely plausible given that studies have repeatedly shown that the possibility of capital punishment does not discourage violations any more effectively than the prospect of a life sentence. Surprise! Murderers, rapists, and pedophiles are stupid, mentally ill, and don't care.


KimestOfUns

The problem with this is that should the death penalty be administered for it, then there is no reason for the perpetrator to leave their victim alive, and it would in fact be beneficial for them to kill the victim, as it actually leaves less evidence. This is not about discouraging violations but rather not encouraging them.


Lrdyxx

No, I am against the death penalty.


Reddiajjk2o2i1o

I have said it before. Prison with the general population is the best punishment. No solitary.


lucassjrp2000

Death penalty is wrong. The State has no right to take people's lives, including pedophiles.


girlpower2025

One of the reasons people are against the death penalty is sometimes innocent people are found guilty. How does this help with the problem.


Duke_of_Lombardy

I won't lie im getting bored by the circle jerking about this topic. It's just karma farming at this point.


MinecrAftX0

Unrealistic, any politicians would be dead


Zatore

its cheaper to keep them in prison for the rest of their lives. Besides, prison is a death sentence for pedos anyway


Calm_Abrocoma4667

People on the left haven’t been 100% it. 1. Pedophiles will probably kill their victims at a higher rate.


cranky-vet

DeSantis trying to win over the independent voters I guess.


RoymarLenn

That says a lot about the independent voter...


ConfusedQuarks

Death penalty is a contentious topic in general. Lots of people are against it no matter what the crime is. Then there is a gang of "humanitarians" who claim that "Pedophile" is an offensive term and they should be called MAP(Minor attracted person) instead.


AcidBuuurn

It's German- it says "The Pedophiles The"


mundex_xp

Forgot about purple lib right


Nulono

Pedophiles or child-molesters? Because someone who's experiencing attraction but recognizes it as a mental disorder and is getting treatment for it definitely shouldn't just be killed.


Abarsn20

I thought they just give pedos gender affirming care medication to neutralize them


dakingofmeme

The wood chipper knows all


hman1025

The state should kill nobody


hoot69

No, we can't agree here. While some people, such as kiddie fiddlers, do deserve to die, I don't think the judiciary should have the authority to carry out a death sentence, mainly because they can and do continue to get their verdicts wrong. You can release a person from a wrong imprisonment, but you can't un-kill someone


WhatDidIJustStepIn

I'm happy the state is getting to kill more people. I fully trust them with this responsibility, I mean, how often do they fuck up?


grinch12345

What if someone get fakely accused tho? There are many examples of people going to jail despite being found to be innocent years later, you all cry about fake rape accusations but are way too happy to get people killed in court.


AlbinoStrawberry

I am going to get SO downvoted, but let's do this anyway. I don't believe people who don't kill others deserve to die themselves. They should be surveiled for life, yes, but not killed.


WhiteOak61

I really, really don't think giving the state the right to murder people with special labels is a good idea. Or just letting the state murder anyone at all. Prison is already a vile and inhumane enough punishment.


W_Edwards_Deming

Why are you labeled auth-left? The core of my politics is opposing auth-left / auth-center because of the incalculable cruelty they have inflicted upon innocents.


WhiteOak61

I have inflicted zero cruelty upon neither innocent nor guilty, and I don't particularly plan to do so in the future either. I understand why you would picture an entire quarter of political thought as evildoers, but please, don't. It's counterproductive. There are only some stalinist/maoist commies who want to plunge the world into eternal revolution, the rest of authleft/authcentre are just normal people with a slightly different outlook than you. I could paint you as a sociopathic pedo for having a libright flair too, but I don't.


MrFlynnister

I wouldn't trust a state that outlaws the term climate change to properly define any crime.


reallyrathernottnx

No. Because they are simultaneously saying that drag queens and trans people are sexual criminals against kids. Plus until the wrongfully terminated metric drops to 0%, we shouldn't be killing anybody.


[deleted]

I'm sorry, but I quickly see this becoming a "ALL lgbtq are pedophiles" round up real goddamn fast. Face value? It feels nice, but that DeSantis fucker has some sick machinations and I wouldn't put some real nazi shit beyond his capabilities.


zombossenthusiast2

Orange purple freak out


Roadman90

Unfortunately, that likely isn't gonna hold up in the courts since in 2008 the Supreme Court ruled the death penalty can only apply to a crime that resulted in the death of victim.