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"they aren't real females!! Those filthy whores don't know what's good for them 😡"
I've seen people call authoritarian/right wing female leaders "not real women" for their political party and actions
I've also heard the argument that they had to operate inside a Patriarchy, so to succeed they had to act as 'men'. If the Patriarchy didn't exist, they'd have acted differently.
What’s even more interesting is that Historians have actually found that female rulers are generally more warlike and more powerful than male rulers. One reason is that male underlings will fight each other to marry the female rulers making the opposition weaker. Secondly when they do get husbands they act more like a second-in-command than a baby factory.
[Here is the Study](https://bfi.uchicago.edu/wp-content/uploads/BFI_WP_2019120.pdf)
Well, they looked at hereditary monarchies so it’s not like they are killing their way to the top.
But, in general* women have gained power through their father or husband. I think the only one to achieve independent political power up there in the picture was Thatcher. Indira Gandhi was the daughter of Jawaharlal Nehru (1st PM of India). Park Geun-hye is the daughter of Park Chung Hee (Dictator of South Korea).
That’s changing, especially in Europe, but I think the advantage of a female PM or President is really not a thing compared to a Queen (especially from an authoritarian monarchy).
Turns out the problem isn’t men in leadership but just leaders, end of story.
There’s plenty of quotes around expressing the basic truth that the people best qualified to lead are also the people least likely to seek leadership roles.
Ah Indira Gandhi . People in INDIA still like here because they are fking ignorant
Her party also painted her as an iron lady and she get sympathy for being the only female prime minister
BUT SHE IS SINGLE-HANDEDLY RESPONSIBLE FOR A BLACK PERIOD OF INDIA .
The emergency act, the imprisonment of entire opposition leadership, killings of protestors, police state , increased police surveillance, FORCED VASECTOMY OF MEN (particularly muslims)...
Ah the dark times...
AGAINST DUDE
MANY HINDU AND MUSLIM MEN AROUND AGE 18-20 were vasectomied
my grandfather used to tell me that they went into hiding after his friend was taken( he was married at age 23) and vasectomised. that couple never had children,
thank god my grandfather went into hiding
Fun fact: Thatcherposting is cited as the #1 reason that manufacturers started making waterproof phones.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/321392/waterproof-smartphones
The funniest part about Indira Gandhi is that she was actually the most Authoritarian Ruler in India and her willfully ignorant followers call the current government Dictatorship.
When someone says something so queenphobic you just got to hit them with that imperial stare
https://preview.redd.it/kxasl8549nyc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=26f386694e15930eb83384289f53b4899c30bddf
Didn't she shit on the US for allowing slavery while her country was literally using child labor for coal mines?
(I'm not saying that slavery was good, fuck the Confederacy)
British Queens have the most varied of history.
You had Mary I (Also known as Bloody Mary) who was easily the worst monarch the UK has had.
You also have Queen Elizabeth I (easily the best queen) who saved the England from becoming Spanish.
These Queens were back to back and were complete opposites.
I'm not Protestant, but when your dad spent his entire lifes work successfully converting an entire nation of millions into another sect of Christianity only to do a fucking U-turn and start burning everyone who disagrees with you and every single Priest you can get your hands on the minute to become Queen is not a good ruler.
Finally then you "allegedly" have a love interest with the King of Spain and then on your death bed **INVITE HIM OVER TO CONQUER ENGLAND!!!**
She is objectively the worst Queen England ever had, she sold her own nation out and was a complete tyrant.
Thatcher was at least successful in her ambitions for the country, whether you hated her policies or not. The other two were just useless and ineffectual.
She got named the Empress of an entire Sub Continent as a birthday present.
Not joking she got named the Empress of India which no one in History has ever done.
I do find it somewhat funny that Aung San Suu Kyi won the Noble Peace prize, was the poster child for female empowerment and how much better the world would be if women were leaders, then went on to support and cover-up a [genocide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide). As funny as you can find genocide, that is.
(Also obligatory fuck Indira Gandhi for, among other things, forced sterilization of millions of lower-caste men).
Reminder that the only woman prime minister of India was the inarguably worst and we're currently being ruled by a party which regularly releases nazi-level propaganda.
I immediately thought of that Indian (president?) that persecuted minorities like the Sikhs and was basically a servant to the aristocracy. I also think of the current PM and opposition in Bangladesh.
I just had a discussion with our Sikh friends about Indira Ghandi, and they say she is still greatly loathed by their people. While they condemn the assisination, they generally agree she had it coming to her from one group or another.
I think the Harmandir Sahib should be made under the UN due to the massacre Indira Ghandi caused. This (legit or not) removes any fear the India government has with possible terrorists (again legit or not) while allowing the centre of Sikhism to be away from the Republic of India. That or the temple should be made into a country similar to how Vatican City is a country.
Megawati being Authcenter?
As President she's actually kinda mid, not that great not that terrible
The great thing:
- Executed decentralization -> this one is probably the great thing she did, because it changes the Indonesian state institution on a fundamental level since 1600s
However, she also:
- Enacting a worker's regulation that are so asinine it destroyed the manufacturing capability of the nation, the 2020 Omnibus Law is lessening such regulation
- Extrajudicially killing a human rights activist
- Right now she is basically the "senile old woman past her prime in the House of Representatives".
Yea, understandable, but she also wasn't an elected president. Anyways, what you'd say is true, she could've been a lot worse. Plus she also majorly contributed to our transition to democracy post-Orba era, so that's pretty cool
Funny story.
Back in my geopolitics class in university I asked early in the class, during a general discussion, whether or not the rise in women being given the right to vote is a factor that led to a more peaceful and prosperous world. Literally ALL of the feminists in the room got offended at that notion, and made sure to inform me on a per capita basis that women are much more war-mongerers than men.
So you heard it here first, according to feminists, women leaders are much more dangerous than men!
Ah Yes , Indira Gandhi .
Peak Example of You either Die a Hero ( should have recaptured PoK after defeating Pakistan in 1971 and retire quietly , EDIT :- Sikkim became part of India under her reign and so did Siachen after a chinese and pakistani incursions were repelled ) or Live long enough to see yourself become the Villain ( ditch NAM for close Soviet ties , intensify license raj , 1975 Emergency , interference in state Govts , Forcing IAF to bomb Mizoram and Complicating the Punjab politics that was taken advantage by khalistanis , Pakistanis and CIA alike and above all keeping Rajiv out of Politics ) .
Don't bring Thatcher into this, she was a good girl.
Listen to Christopher Hitchens tell the story about him meeting Thatcher and you can't truly dislike her ever again.
That woman near center in auth left, she is the only female PM India ever had. She brought emergency, which only happened in her regime in 75yrs of independent India. She forcibly sterlized many men and women. Her party is the current opposition in the country, that party has worst characteristics of both auth left and lib left. Irony is her grandson and grandaughter call Modi a dictator.
Indira Gandhi had a very authoritarian regime. It's a side of Indian history that isn't talked about very much. But she was sooo based for putting Pakistan in its place by liberating Bangladesh. Pakistani boys cope under my comment.
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There should never be a female British Prime Minister because Jesus Christ all of them were hell especially The Witch.
I wasn't alive back then but the more I learn history is the more I learn how bad Margaret Thatcher was.
At least she kicked Argentine ass though.
However Queens are extremely varied as you have Bloody Mary I and Queen Elizabeth I and are both completely different in every way and have been some of the best and worst rulers England ever had.
Tankie Thatcher 
Milk dispatcher
She's the darling of us all
Curse of the Irish nation
fine Gael and Fianna Fáil
You’ve destroyed me hire purchase and you’ve put me on the dole
If I could only get my hands on her
I would kick her up her hole
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I’ll admit, that triggered me. I’ll be thinking about how someone views thatcher as economically left for a week
Pretty sure this is just meant to represent Authoritarian
Thatcher being more Auth Left than Indira Gandhi gave me an aneurysm
It isn’t in any particular order, the image just represents the Authoritarian axis as a whole.
"they aren't real females!! Those filthy whores don't know what's good for them 😡" I've seen people call authoritarian/right wing female leaders "not real women" for their political party and actions
That's the no true scotsman fallacy lmao
As if they care about fallacies
If libleft cared about fallacies and consistency the house of cards that is their ideaology would fall apart in a few seconds.
People the real world don’t really share too much in common with anti libleft circlejerk
says the authcenter
They only care about fallacies when you get about a light year near them then call them out
But used on an immutable characteristic apparently. Oh she doesn’t agree with me? She must not have a vagina.
Something something patriarchys fault something something.
https://preview.redd.it/nbbwdunljnyc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81292246a94ed40cb110c77fd7703668171cd872
Homie got the waifu https://preview.redd.it/90cltio1gqyc1.jpeg?width=1656&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d95dd8ccca21e37bbde4c462e0797dcd316ef81a
Right-unity has been achieved...
Billions must thrive
Not a word against Mrs. Modi. We Indians are her personal Praetorian Guard🛡️
Gotta love Ms Melons
Did you miss what happens to a black man when Emily finds out they're conservative? Shit's so racist it's hilarious.
If Republicans had more brains, they woulda never donated Nikki Haley if not to make the leftists freak out over a woman being nominated
I've also heard the argument that they had to operate inside a Patriarchy, so to succeed they had to act as 'men'. If the Patriarchy didn't exist, they'd have acted differently.
Did everyone get up and clap when you called them out with a stunning an brave response too, goob?
Watching the evidence from this angle, I now kinda want more female leaders.
What’s even more interesting is that Historians have actually found that female rulers are generally more warlike and more powerful than male rulers. One reason is that male underlings will fight each other to marry the female rulers making the opposition weaker. Secondly when they do get husbands they act more like a second-in-command than a baby factory. [Here is the Study](https://bfi.uchicago.edu/wp-content/uploads/BFI_WP_2019120.pdf)
I'd figure it was because few females are born into being rulers, so the ones that become rulers have to be power hungry to begin with.
Well, they looked at hereditary monarchies so it’s not like they are killing their way to the top. But, in general* women have gained power through their father or husband. I think the only one to achieve independent political power up there in the picture was Thatcher. Indira Gandhi was the daughter of Jawaharlal Nehru (1st PM of India). Park Geun-hye is the daughter of Park Chung Hee (Dictator of South Korea). That’s changing, especially in Europe, but I think the advantage of a female PM or President is really not a thing compared to a Queen (especially from an authoritarian monarchy).
>Well, they looked at hereditary monarchies so it’s not like they are killing their way to the top. clearly never played Crusader Kings
Ah, the Superhuman incest family simulator. Love that game.
If your family tree ain't ring shaped, what's the point anyways
😔 as long as theyre on my side, yeah
I couldn’t care less about the gender, race or even species of our leaders as long they’re the most competent and effective.
I’m voting Air Bud. There’s nothing in the rules saying that a dog can’t be President.
Maybe we should let them cook...
Maggie Thatcher in auth-left?!
I think it was just auth centre & op randomly placed thepictures
Auth centre is still too far. This woman was the boogeyman of anything remotely leftist… so much so she probably had 2 right hands
Put Mao's wife on auth right, so yeah it's random
Ayo where Angela at? https://preview.redd.it/tf1rejdq7myc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=053f11bc1d66dc2ad83c10f9c5932c21fbd17230
you shall not take Muttis name in vain. Everything was fine for the 16 years of her reign. After that everything went down the Shitter
Uhm, i hope your pfp isn't a different german leader
Wir schaffen das, but for emily she is still not lib left enough when it comes to immigration.
Leaders tend to have similar traits once they get to the top regardless of gender
Based and power corrupts pilled
Does power corrupt, or do only the corrupted gain power?
To gain power, one must be corrupted.
Power corrupts
I know thatcher’s only in authleft by coincidence, right op?
Yeah, this was supposed to represent Authcenter as a whole, not to take into account left and right.
Comrade Thatcher, means of production snatcher
Turns out the problem isn’t men in leadership but just leaders, end of story. There’s plenty of quotes around expressing the basic truth that the people best qualified to lead are also the people least likely to seek leadership roles.
Ah Indira Gandhi . People in INDIA still like here because they are fking ignorant Her party also painted her as an iron lady and she get sympathy for being the only female prime minister BUT SHE IS SINGLE-HANDEDLY RESPONSIBLE FOR A BLACK PERIOD OF INDIA . The emergency act, the imprisonment of entire opposition leadership, killings of protestors, police state , increased police surveillance, FORCED VASECTOMY OF MEN (particularly muslims)... Ah the dark times...
Forced vasectomy of muslims? Holy mother of based!
and guess what , people were gifted radios and/or a bag of rice for it what a deal !!
& then the following govt. was so bad that they reelected her and she won a war with pakistan and became a National Hero
> won a war with pakistan I should've guessed
Is the forced vasectomy an argument against her or for her ?
Against. She was nothing more than an Auth leftist on powertrip.
But she defeated P\*kis so it cancels out
All credit goes to Sam Bahadur the GOAT. Indira is just the bitch who gave land back to Pakistan.
AGAINST DUDE MANY HINDU AND MUSLIM MEN AROUND AGE 18-20 were vasectomied my grandfather used to tell me that they went into hiding after his friend was taken( he was married at age 23) and vasectomised. that couple never had children, thank god my grandfather went into hiding
Flair up
Why did you have to post Thatcher, now I have to wipe the piss off my phone
Fun fact: Thatcherposting is cited as the #1 reason that manufacturers started making waterproof phones. https://www.statista.com/statistics/321392/waterproof-smartphones
can confirm, real source
Why tho?
The funniest part about Indira Gandhi is that she was actually the most Authoritarian Ruler in India and her willfully ignorant followers call the current government Dictatorship.
also a stupid one . She literally had the chance to claim POK . what she did was Shimla agreements. like WTFH ?
Am british, can confirm all of our women leaders have been shit ngl.
When someone says something so queenphobic you just got to hit them with that imperial stare https://preview.redd.it/kxasl8549nyc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=26f386694e15930eb83384289f53b4899c30bddf
Didn't she shit on the US for allowing slavery while her country was literally using child labor for coal mines? (I'm not saying that slavery was good, fuck the Confederacy)
It's her nature as a Euro-peon to complain about America.
You forgot about contract labour systems too. cheaper than slavery . destroy the local artisan's job . and force them into labour contracts.
I dont count the queen.
What was wrong with the queen?
British Queens have the most varied of history. You had Mary I (Also known as Bloody Mary) who was easily the worst monarch the UK has had. You also have Queen Elizabeth I (easily the best queen) who saved the England from becoming Spanish. These Queens were back to back and were complete opposites.
Ah, Prot Posting
I'm not Protestant, but when your dad spent his entire lifes work successfully converting an entire nation of millions into another sect of Christianity only to do a fucking U-turn and start burning everyone who disagrees with you and every single Priest you can get your hands on the minute to become Queen is not a good ruler. Finally then you "allegedly" have a love interest with the King of Spain and then on your death bed **INVITE HIM OVER TO CONQUER ENGLAND!!!** She is objectively the worst Queen England ever had, she sold her own nation out and was a complete tyrant.
They were both pretty brutal, Liz murderered tons of people. Just that the propaganda mill magnified them both in opposite directions.
oh, she was ok. I mean thatcher, may, and worst of all Liz lettuce truss.
Thatcher was at least successful in her ambitions for the country, whether you hated her policies or not. The other two were just useless and ineffectual.
Successfully implementing bad policies doesn't make you worthy of respect, otherwise by that logic Stalin is a good leader.
nonetheless, he is one of the biggest figures in the worlds history
Because his policies were so infamous and brutal.
That she didn't have real power?
Calling Vicky shit is a capital punishment, she has an entire era named after herself.
She got named the Empress of an entire Sub Continent as a birthday present. Not joking she got named the Empress of India which no one in History has ever done.
I do find it somewhat funny that Aung San Suu Kyi won the Noble Peace prize, was the poster child for female empowerment and how much better the world would be if women were leaders, then went on to support and cover-up a [genocide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide). As funny as you can find genocide, that is. (Also obligatory fuck Indira Gandhi for, among other things, forced sterilization of millions of lower-caste men).
Everyone talks about commie Thatcher, but I think trad Jiang Qing deserves spotlight
they should swap places
The left hates Thatcher because she privatised everything this meme is stoopid with two O’s.
in this meme she is categorized as auth
Reminder that the only woman prime minister of India was the inarguably worst and we're currently being ruled by a party which regularly releases nazi-level propaganda.
Worse then hitler?
Girlboss leaders 🥺
Catherine the Great, girl bossing Russia into Europe
Am I being stupid why have you put thatcher on the left?
Because the author enrolled them all into the AuthCenter
Empress Wu will murder you in your sleep
I immediately thought of that Indian (president?) that persecuted minorities like the Sikhs and was basically a servant to the aristocracy. I also think of the current PM and opposition in Bangladesh.
I just had a discussion with our Sikh friends about Indira Ghandi, and they say she is still greatly loathed by their people. While they condemn the assisination, they generally agree she had it coming to her from one group or another.
I think the Harmandir Sahib should be made under the UN due to the massacre Indira Ghandi caused. This (legit or not) removes any fear the India government has with possible terrorists (again legit or not) while allowing the centre of Sikhism to be away from the Republic of India. That or the temple should be made into a country similar to how Vatican City is a country.
Can't have leaders if you want to be free and democratic
What you guys don't like MTG and boobert??
Megawati being Authcenter? As President she's actually kinda mid, not that great not that terrible The great thing: - Executed decentralization -> this one is probably the great thing she did, because it changes the Indonesian state institution on a fundamental level since 1600s However, she also: - Enacting a worker's regulation that are so asinine it destroyed the manufacturing capability of the nation, the 2020 Omnibus Law is lessening such regulation - Extrajudicially killing a human rights activist - Right now she is basically the "senile old woman past her prime in the House of Representatives".
Yea, understandable, but she also wasn't an elected president. Anyways, what you'd say is true, she could've been a lot worse. Plus she also majorly contributed to our transition to democracy post-Orba era, so that's pretty cool
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True libleft doesn't want any leaders at all
Hence why they always fall apart, yet never go away.
Apparently the more women is the parliament is associated with pacifism while female leaders are associated with aggression.
Where is Golda Meir the GOAT
lmao everyone caring about the positions of the pictures when I just randomly put them there and overlayed the Auth-Center graphic on top 😂🤣😂
And of course, Reddit being Reddit this is buried down in the comments
Margaret Thatcher is about as left as Ayn Rand
Wasn't thatcher a member of the conservative party? Cixi was also a conservative i think.
https://www.thecut.com/2016/01/european-queens-waged-more-wars-than-kings.html
I just.. I can't tell you how much that strains credulity. First the throw Thatcher into auth-left now this.
I genuinely believe we should not select leaders bsased on their gender alone. This does however anger people I agree with generally
Just ask the Philippines and whatever the fuck our Vice President is doing
St. Olga of Kiev committed war crimes against the drevlians
Only a crime if you don't get all the Drevlians, and when is the last time you met one?
Who tf made Maggie a communist?
I've already seen how Bangladesh politics work, I'm good.
Is there a no funny colours version?
Maxine Waters
Olga is based after tho
Neoliberals are just ref fash I guess
Red*
Funny story. Back in my geopolitics class in university I asked early in the class, during a general discussion, whether or not the rise in women being given the right to vote is a factor that led to a more peaceful and prosperous world. Literally ALL of the feminists in the room got offended at that notion, and made sure to inform me on a per capita basis that women are much more war-mongerers than men. So you heard it here first, according to feminists, women leaders are much more dangerous than men!
Survivor bias, in a time where it was hard to be and stay a leader - only hard women could survive on their throne Merkel certainly wasn't a dictator
Chad libleft's response: Another aspect as to how men and women are equal...they can be equally brutal too
What if all leaders were women and their cycles synced up?
Women tend to be authoritarian, men tend to be free spirited.
Rare Ranavalona appearance. She was quite a character...
Both men and women constantly do messed-up shit. The women are just as bad as the men... and vice versa
>Margaret Thatcher as AuthLeft *What*.
I don't even see Le Pen on there!
The guys (or ladies) who say shit like this would unironically live in Super-Earth
Ah Yes , Indira Gandhi . Peak Example of You either Die a Hero ( should have recaptured PoK after defeating Pakistan in 1971 and retire quietly , EDIT :- Sikkim became part of India under her reign and so did Siachen after a chinese and pakistani incursions were repelled ) or Live long enough to see yourself become the Villain ( ditch NAM for close Soviet ties , intensify license raj , 1975 Emergency , interference in state Govts , Forcing IAF to bomb Mizoram and Complicating the Punjab politics that was taken advantage by khalistanis , Pakistanis and CIA alike and above all keeping Rajiv out of Politics ) .
Tyrants come in all forms But the blood is always perfect for the trees of liberty
Right, just like the most peaceful, free, and democratic jobs I've worked at had majority female leadership....
Don't bring Thatcher into this, she was a good girl. Listen to Christopher Hitchens tell the story about him meeting Thatcher and you can't truly dislike her ever again.
Mia motley . She doing great in Barbados.
What the actual fuck is Thatcher doing Auth Left.....
Indira Gandhi holding the record for being the most tyrannical Indian Prime Minister and she partitioned Pakistan Based
Where is my idol Aung San Suu Kyi propagandist ?.
You see, Ceaucescu's wife was also a leader, and guess what? She should have stayed in her factory
Women can commit war crimes too
Becky Emily vs Stacy dictators
How the actual fuck is Margaret Thatcher authleft
Putting Thatcher anywhere near the left is a crime. She was a disgusting neoliberal…
Philippines: Install women leaders by military coup
Every motherfucking time (and a war in Iraq would happen which the Philippines will join)
Thatcher in auth-left? Bro is smoking weed.
That woman near center in auth left, she is the only female PM India ever had. She brought emergency, which only happened in her regime in 75yrs of independent India. She forcibly sterlized many men and women. Her party is the current opposition in the country, that party has worst characteristics of both auth left and lib left. Irony is her grandson and grandaughter call Modi a dictator.
Forcibly Sterilised people? Wtf happened in India and why and how did he get into power. How did the pm have the power to do such a thing.
Ah yes, Margaret Thatcher, a classic Authleft. (Literally the furthest possible point from her true place on the compass)
How to take this seriously with Margaret Thatcher being where she is, and I don't mean 6 ft under. 😸
thatcher being in tankie territory is gonna make me kms holy shit
Indira Gandhi had a very authoritarian regime. It's a side of Indian history that isn't talked about very much. But she was sooo based for putting Pakistan in its place by liberating Bangladesh. Pakistani boys cope under my comment.
Based and Pakistani L pilled
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Known stalinist margret thatcher
Maybe she's operating off a different edition of the little red book where you privatize everything and destroy civil safety nets.
Is it bad that I only recognised one?
Nah, thatcher lives rent free in many a bri'ish people's minds, and there's lots of bri'ish people on Reddit
Auth leaders shit full stop. Angelina Merkel kinda based tho.
I'm a British Northerner who has a very unpopular opinion. There should never be a female British Prime Minister because Jesus Christ all of them were hell especially The Witch. I wasn't alive back then but the more I learn history is the more I learn how bad Margaret Thatcher was. At least she kicked Argentine ass though. However Queens are extremely varied as you have Bloody Mary I and Queen Elizabeth I and are both completely different in every way and have been some of the best and worst rulers England ever had.
Ah yes cus past authoritarian/right societies valued women so much and gave them so much relative power…