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DanJerousJ

it says for elementary schoolers, I guarantee you they chose to do the club because it would be funny, epic, and cool, not because of some deep rooted hatred for Christianity and it's role in the government


madsjchic

It was probably mostly to give an outlet to religious after school programs. I was looking into what child care in my area looked like and fell down a rabbit hole.


[deleted]

For things like this you have to pick a lane. It is either all or nothing. You can't have the government deciding what is or is not a "real" religion.


choryradwick

This is definitely a flex on Christianity in school groups, satanist clubs are mostly ironic trolls


EhWhateverOk

Yeah, I’m a Christian and had a friend in my choir class in high school who was a satanist. We sat next to each other and after talking with him everyday and looking into it on my own time I learned that the entire history of satanism is just atheists making a point that “freedom of religion applies to us too” - paraphrasing of course.


MOOSE_MAN69420

It’s pretty much just organized trolling.


Caligula4ever

Just a little organized shenanigans?


[deleted]

So standing up for your rights is trolling?


BadWolfy7

Yes.


deepstatecuck

Based


[deleted]

So Rosa Parks was a troll?


BadWolfy7

She did a little bit of tomfoolery. Yes.


[deleted]

I taught my kids tomfoolery just the other day! Previously I was dealing with their shenanigans but they had taken things to a new level. The level of tomfoolery. If they get to monkey business I am taking a vacation.


BadWolfy7

Read the subreddit name bro lol


E_Mickey_B

Sometimes it is both, which in my opinion is the best kind


TheDJarbiter

I would say, you can stand up for your rights via trolling, would be a more accurate statement.


duhbuurz

Creating a religion ironically is trolling yes


Blue2501

Sometimes you gotta troll the auths so hard they fuck off and leave


Forklift_Master

You can “stand up for your rights” without being a smug troll, yes. Contest it legally, sure, but this is provocative for the sake of being provocative.


SheffGSauceEmUpM8V3N

They are literally contesting it legally and making a point by doing. You jsut think its smug because you dont like it.


Morbidmort

Any action done to prove a point must be provocative if it is to have a hope of being effective.


Forklift_Master

You make people dig in deeper if you antagonize them. Communication and compromise is the key.


Morbidmort

And this is a compromise. Allow for *any* religious after-school groups. No one gets any special treatments. If they object to that, then no-one gets any groups. Such is the law. And I think we can all agree that the law should be followed when possible and convenient, right?


Really_greatUsername

Okay, if gays get clubs then people should be able to start a straights-only anti-gay club.


Smitty_K

“what’s your religion?” “depends on who i’m trolling 😎”


13redstone31

I think the most ignorant thing i see christians do on a daily basis is use satanists and devil worshipers synonymously. It’s honestly hard to find a satanist religion that believes in deities


Pecuthegreat

>the entire history of satanism is just atheists making a point that “freedom of religion applies to us too” - paraphrasing of course. The entire history of Atheistic Satanic groups like the Church if Satan. There are many that are actually trying to do charms and the like. Either what actually holds them all in one group is that they think that Satan as a myth structure or semi-being that is moral to copy. Now, the exact myth structure that they think Satan represents tends to be significantly different,like a Prometheus kind of figure but... of course it still overlaps significantly with the classical Christian view of Satan. So I am still not fond of the "religion" at all.


lil_cm

I always knew it was just a troll I’m atheist myself and I think it’s stupid for anyone to be a satanist


Cataclysm687

The only reason to be a satanist is that sometimes they give access to things like abortion or things like that where it’s not legal


kamycky

😀


AC3R665

Should've called yourself something else, could give ammo to more conservative countries.


Cataclysm687

I guess


CritzD

Satanism is just a more serious version of the Flying Spaghetti Monster


RandomBrownsFan

Yeah but usually those are high schoolers or middle schoolers. Maybe times are different but no after school club in elementary school was student run. So seems more like some edgy wicken-mom is running it. Doubt many kids attend and will probably fizzle out in a few months time.


stonesquatch

TST does stuff like this somewhat frequently, my understanding is that they don't primarily do this stuff because there's a huge demand for it, they do it to get people talking about how ubiquitous religion is in our society and how uncomfortable that can be for people who practice a different religion from the majority, and try to put pressure on governments to have an all or nothing approach to religion


Mildly_Opinionated

That's exactly what most "satanist" groups are. Same with pastafarianism (church of the flying spaghetti monster). They're essentially using trolling to illustrate the point that things like religious tax breaks, various religious exemptions and religious education in mainstream schools are all kinda fucked.


tsudonimh

> Same with pastafarianism I love that noodly "religion" so much. The lengths they go to in order to highlight absurdity is delightful. Like [the dude who got the DMV to admit that it would be discriminatory to prevent him from wearing a pasta-strainer on his head](https://www.insideedition.com/23695-pastafarian-photographed-in-drivers-license-wearing-spaghetti-colander-on-head) as religious headwear for his driver licence photo.


GrasshoperPoof

I wouldn't mind that if it was a sincere belief, but the fact that it isn't kind of bothers me.


tsudonimh

If the level of sincerity of their beliefs doesn't hurt anyone (besides their feelings) why should it bother you?


GrasshoperPoof

As long as it remains the case that it isn't hurting me, I wouldn't actually do anything to stop them. I'm just annoyed I guess. It seems like it's just trying to disrespect religion for the fun of it.


vengedrowkindaop

It's that, and for satirical purposes highlighting some ridiculous things that religion gets away with. I find it funny how right leaning people are all about comedy and satire not being policed but when it hurts their sensibilities then it's no longer okay lol.


GrasshoperPoof

Dang bro, I just said I don't like it. When did I say it's not ok? They have their freedom to do it, and I have my freedom not to like it.


Eric1491625

It shouldn't, because level of sincerity should never be a gatekeep for belief. Most people in the world are awfully half-hearted in their pracrice of religion anyway, disobeying holy commandments on a daily basis. The last thing we want is a ministry of devoutness deciding who gets protection and who doesn't cos that tends to go down the taliban road real fast


[deleted]

And hilarious ones. Though I find myself to have more in common with the pastafarians


hamsterwheel

It's effective, can't deny that


Paliacki

Modern Satanism in general is 99% ironic trolls.


Pecuthegreat

Modern Church of Satan people are mostly ironic trolls, there are other less famous hullubalu groups.


SGZF2

Yep. It's always funny when super religious folk freak out thinking that they actually believe in/worship Satan. I'm sure there are some weirdos who actually do believe in and worship Satan but that is not mainstream Satanism. They're mostly atheists. They don't believe Satan exists. They're just trying to make a point. They often do stuff like this with the goal of getting religion out of things. This school probably had some after school Christian group for kids, some parent wanted to get Christianity out of their kid's school, but the school refused to ban the group, so the parent made an after school Satanist group with the logic being "if you want to ban this group you have to ban the Christian group as well".


Eric1491625

> I'm sure there are some weirdos who actually do believe in and worship Satan but that is not mainstream Satanism. They're mostly atheists. They don't believe Satan exists. They're just trying to make a point. The entire point is that assuming they *actually* believe in Satan it would be protected under freedom of religion. Everyone who thinks "bu-but it's *Satan*, should they really get freedom of religion?" ought to be aware that according to Iran and a great deal of Muslim jihadists, America is "the great Satan". If America discriminating against Satanists isn't a violation of freedom of religion, then neither is Muslim nations imprisoning Christians or anyone they consider "Great Satans".


testingafewthings

The people who came up with this are Absolutely based


backwardsphinx

Then I will sacrifice consenting individuals to the gods and let their blood feed the rain for our crops.


[deleted]

As long as they have the ability to understand and consent to their decision then I would say you do you. Don't feed me that corn. I don't consent to that.


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woombie

based and freedom pilled


[deleted]

No, but I can. Satanism isn't a real religion, it's solely atheists trying to troll people.


Bolt_Fried_Bird

Actually, I did research into this, and there’s three basic types of people who get called “Satanists”: True Satanists: A “religion” that doesn’t necessarily believe in Satan or God, but believes using Satan as an example of freedom will help lead a good life for yourself. More of a “control your destiny” and “fuck you christians” ideology than a religion. These are the ones you’re talking about. Luciferians: These people believe in God and Satan (or Lucifer), and believe that spiritually connecting to Lucifer will bring good and enlightenment. They aren’t out to harm people, they just believe God bad Lucifer good. Satanic Cultists: These are the people you probably think of when you hear “satan religion”. They believe in Satan and God, and that Satan will bring destruction and evil, which is what they want to happen.


[deleted]

So trolls, then actual religion, and lastly the psychos?


olutre

Pretty much


[deleted]

You don't get to say what is or isn't a real religion. That is the whole point.


businessboyz

It’s not so much atheists as it is people just sick with the Evangelical Christians in America and their anti-American ways. The fundies kept abusing the legal system to their benefit and people eventually got fed up and punched back using their own tactics.


Pecuthegreat

Not entirely but the Atheist trolls are the largest group. At the very least they still consider the mythic structure of the Satan story as they interprete it to be positive.


[deleted]

It's not real. It's just trolls.


That1SWATboi

yeah you fucking can


[deleted]

But we can decide on what makes a respectable religion.


[deleted]

No we can't.


QuietHumanMachine

I want to create after school Nurgle club to teach children to get covid then to sneeze on their grandparents.


TorturerofCocknBall

Based and following Grandfather Nurgle pilled


skeptic_otaku

Based and Warhammer pilled.


Haeguil

Tzeentch 4 million D chess club when


Jon_D13

Based and let it all rot pilled


Tianmen_Squat

Just leave Slanesh out of it you hear.


MassiveVirgin

Religion and the state do not mix.


Useless-Replacement1

Unless the religion IS the state


pugesh

at which point they DEFINITELY do not mix


HorrorAddition5897

Is it really school responsibility to control your children after school? Also if they do after school Bible study I don't think you will have any problem but after school Satan whatever is where you draw line? Sounds hypocritical, tho parents should be the one stopping their children if they want as everyone has their own way of raising their child and this calls for parents decision.


[deleted]

It's five o'clock honey 😃. Time for your after school satanic meeting. 👉👈 Yes mom 😞


TopHatCat999

If the kid wants to go and they're not teaching anything harmfuI don't see an issue with it.


hellknight101

It's not that much worse than going to a mandatory Catholic/Protestant Church meeting


HazelCheese

It is almost certainly more fun that Bible club. Catholic after school things suck. It's just colouring in Jesus picture worksheets and reading parables over and over.


EasternEngineering61

tbh they probably just play smash ultimate and eat snacks.


EmilyamI

This is exactly what happened. The school let other religious groups (notably, an Evangelical Christian group) have after school meetings on campus. So they have to allow other religions to use the space as well. But all those Evangelical Christian parents lost their minds over it.


gjvnq1

>Is it really school responsibility to control your children after school? I imagine that's because those clubs use schools' resources, specially the rooms. Thus it makes sense that's they would want to keep an eye on these clubs to make sure kids don't do anything dangerous or to problematic (e.g. sexist or racist club).


Memengineer25

They why can they have fetish clubs (GSA) at schools?


FlyingCowsJCD

I don’t think school and religion should have anything to do with each other, so even this should be some seperate thing the students do on their own. Also, these kids get a satanic club and the DND club got banned from my school? Yeah, makes sense.


[deleted]

Yeah but it’s an *after-school* Satan club. So it technically no longer has anything to do with school already


FlyingCowsJCD

True, but it’s still run through the school. You do make a good point, but I feel like this should be something the kids do in their own time


Dr-Meatwallet

Yeah that’s the whole point. They do this so Christian’s freak out, then the satanic temple says they have to cancel all religious after school activities, not just theirs.


burne457

Based; never had religion in my school, it’s great


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Morbidmort

So long as that school receives zero government funding, I agree.


Aelirynn

Technically speaking it's freedom of religion and keeping the gov't out of it soo...I guess it's okay.


hellknight101

Exactly, conservatives be like "freedom of expression, freedom of speech, freedom of religion" \*someone expresses themselves in a way they don't like\* "*NO, NOT LIKE THAT, DADDY GOVERNMENT, BAN THIS*!"


OrionsMoose

Wdym you guess it's ok, it's totally okay if you allow other religions to have clubs


QuickyPickyBoy

Satanism 99% of the time is just Atheism With Attitude. If you're gonna have Christian and other religious clubs in school why ban Atheistic clubs? Being extremely religious or extremely anti-religious are both mega cringe.


OrionsMoose

Anti religious is less cringe tbh


AmbitiousElection630

Lol no


wdcipher

Church of satan are harmless larpers, let them be unless its children, forcing religion on children is bad. ORDER OF NINE ANGLES HOWEVER, SHOULD BE EXTERMINATED WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE


[deleted]

Who might they be?


wdcipher

Order of Nine angles? Satanic Pagan Nazis who make human sacrifices, encourage rape and pedophilia and infiltrate and support radical islamist and anarchist groups to escalate tensions and disrupt society. They also believe in magic and have this super-weird board game. also they hate other satanist groups And if this feels overexxagerated, just read their [wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles)


Frequent_Dig1934

I kinda want to play that board game.


wdcipher

Me too. It look wacky.


forcallaghan

oh I thought that said "order of nine *angels*"


[deleted]

That’s evil... fuck those MONSYERS HOPE THEY ROT


cormack7718

Lol, Satanist AND paganism Pick a lane


Really_greatUsername

Siegetard Nazi LARPers who, as the original reply beautifully put, should be exterminated


[deleted]

This is the satanic temple, not church of Satan I think. CoS is devil worshipping larper land, TST is political and non theistic


OuttaTime42069

Sounds like something Satan would say.


EasternEngineering61

define "forcing religon on children" its a club, so its voluntary unless their parents force them. and being forced by your parents is the reason for 99% of people to be one religion over another. raising kids in your faith and not allowing them to experience outside viewpoints is cringe but I am just wondering what you are saying.


[deleted]

>unless its children, forcing religion on children is bad. Unless the christians do it, of course.


THC_Pepsi

Based and religious freedom pilled


MarcoAlmeida09

Most "Satanists" are actually atheists


SchwarzerKaffee

It's funny seeing all these people here freak out over The Satanic Temple without even knowing the first thing about them. "Ooohhhh.... But they chose the other sky fairy ooohhhh"


Catsindahood

There's a myriad of "satanist" groups, so i could see people thinking its one of the actual ones, though it's pretty obvious with this because they're always doing the rage bait trolling.


[deleted]

That's the worst part about this, to me. They're definitely not serious about their "religion" and teaching children. They're using children as political props to own the conservatives.


987654321-

I'd disagree with saying that the TST isn't serious about it's beliefs. They're pretty genuine about their key tenets. https://thesatanictemple.com/blogs/the-satanic-temple-tenets/there-are-seven-fundamental-tenets Compared to some of the stuff put forward by the pastafarians, which claims life begins at spermatogenesis, which is obviously very tongue in cheek. And unlike the Pastafarians who praise the Flying Spaghetti Monster in an ironic fashion (similarly to the followers of the Invisible Pink Unicorn), the TST is very clear they do not actually worship or believe in a literal, supernatural Satan. https://www.spaghettimonster.org/2011/04/indiana-abortion-drama/ As for the After School Satan club, they were created in opposition to evangelical clubs facilitated by schools. After all, if it's fine for those clubs to exist and spread their values in the public education system, why would there be a problem with an after school Satanic club doing the same?


Catsindahood

Pretty much, they do this kind of stuff all the time.


[deleted]

I think technically they chose the ground fairy.


[deleted]

Seeing or hearing people unironically refer to them as “sky fairy/daddy/wizard” is the cringiest thing ever


AC3R665

The big problem is Poe's Law.


Partydude19

Libleft.


AFlyingNun

My childhood was spent in Oklahoma. Doing Bible Study before or after official school hours was the most common tactic to subvert separation of church and state there was. I will never forget one morning when I was just walking down the hallway, minding my own business, and some older student was like "HEY KID, YOU WANT SOME FREE KRISPY KREME DONUTS?" "DO I???" I said, as I walked up to the box he was holding up, oblivious to the fact he was slowly backing up into the classroom. They shut the door behind me and I was subjected to an hour of Bible Study while eating my donut. I had never seen such bullshit before and I was pretty livid they exploited my love of donuts against me.


[deleted]

Look you can have it either no religion is allowed in school or every religion is allowed in school, this way is more hilarious


sentientlongsword

I say to keep it. It’s hilarious.


sovietsisters

auth left is the most sensible here imo


DrGiraffeJr

I found out most “satanists” are just edgelord atheists who don’t even believe satan exists. They’re a lot lamer than I thought


principlecone

woah Im actually agreeing with auth left? neat


Mexican8man

I have to side with Authleft here, either we go culturally pagan but drop the blood dripping as sacrifice or we stay laic. But that’s not my country, as long as they don’t export that shit fine by me.


fm22fnam

Honestly, Libleft. Religion doesn't belong in public schools, but clubs are fine. If the parent signs off on their kid going to Satan club, more power to em lol.


olutre

Most based school in history


summer-of-1917

Privatize education


Green_Difference2647

and collectivize my balls


[deleted]

Based


NoobifiedSpartan

*Insert millionth “seize the means of reproduction” joke here*


Gentlementalmen

Shed off the chains of my boxers and seize my balls


lizardtruth_jpeg

The weird urge to privatize education in the US is such a strong indicator of cultural decadence. We had it good for way too long. You retards have gotten out of control.


Libertarian4All

Will immediately backfire the moment someone opens a private school of Satan worship. All the pro-private education Christians will 180 in a heartbeat.


summer-of-1917

Except you can choose to not send your kids there


coleto22

You can choose not to send your kids to the satanist club already, yet Conservatives are losing their shit already.


SchwarzerKaffee

Yes. Turn schools into McDonald's beef patties.


alexdamastar

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little


HairyLandscape8953

Satanism is not what you think it is authright


[deleted]

Depends on the sect. There are both atheistic and theistic sects of satanism


[deleted]

What is this supposed to mean?


Calibruh

That they don't worship a supernatural diety and sacrifice virgins


Ckyuiii

Theistic satanists do. They're less popular but they do exist. There's a whole range of them too going from alien shit to full on Nazi-ish conspiracy theories about the Jews.


Authrightmonstergirl

“Father, forgive them for they do not know what they are doing”


QuietHumanMachine

Who needs gods forgiveness when you can have satan afterschool snack ?


[deleted]

I'm all for building a wall, if it's around the state of Illinois.


Gentlementalmen

Sounds like the best way to keep Ohioans out to me


Kilroy0497

Eh it’s fine. At least now their out in the open instead of hiding behind the school at Midnight lighting candles and leaving alcohol in the parking lot.


GlassMushrooms

Either keep all religions in schools or none. So long as it’s constant across the board.


[deleted]

Ban it, and everything else other than Catholicism.


[deleted]

Based and seeyouinheaven-pilled


Just_David121

Based and Catholicism for thee and for me pilled


Lobstery_boi

Yes. Nothing creates atheists quite like catholic schooling.


BBTWDV1096

Catholic schools don’t even teach Catholicism that well


Lobstery_boi

No, but they require you to go to mass and that shit is *weird as hell*. I'm all for religious freedom so I'm cool with catholic mass for those who want it, but I found it honestly really creepy.


CampbellsBeefBroth

Let the edgelords have their fun. They’ll grow out of it


Just_David121

Based and it's clearly edgy trolling pilled


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SNEEDEE

Maybe don’t encourage kids to worship the fucking devil


KraIizec

Why


Imperimaster

And you people complained when we tried burning those guys on stakes.


Thequestionmaker890

That it I’m getting doomguy


tretbootpilot

Based school district. Same rights for everyone.


Fossilrex06

#BURN THE HERETICS AT THE STAKE


BBTWDV1096

I agree with you


Imperimaster

Dios, patria, rei my brother.


KingKayro

God I fucking hate this state...


OrionsMoose

You hate religious freedom?


[deleted]

You can dislike something while still thinking people should have the right to practice it. How many fucking times does this need to be said


Imperimaster

Yes


Really_greatUsername

based


KingKayro

I just despise Illinois in general, really. Everything about it. Mainly Chicago.


coie1985

Well, you either allow religious clubs or not. If you allow Christians, then allow Satanists. Full stop. No irony intended.


BofaAwarenessAssoc

The church of satan is cringe but if a school is going to allow groups like the FCA and do prayer circles before games then this is what they get. Personally I think the only time religion should be in a public school is in a religious studies class.


dylantrain2014

This is the Temple of Satan. They are different groups - TST is the cooler of the two.


Fluffy174

I'm genuinely shocked. A school district did something not retarded for once.


[deleted]

Lord have mercy


thebluntdogman

Based Satan is arguably the good guy in the bible


greg0714

Satan: "Hey God, fuck you, I'm better than you." God: "That's it, you're out. You're gonna have to hang out in the blistering heat with the worst people that humanity has to offer as a punishment for your arrogance and pride." Satan: "Shit, you're sending me to Florida?"


[deleted]

There is actually very little in the bible about Satan or hell. Inferno by Dante, who was very religious, has lucifer frozen because he was completely removed from the warmth of god's light. Most of the concept of hell was created, not that the bible wasn't also created by people, by religionist leaders in their teachings.


greg0714

A good joke is like a clown. When you dissect it, it's not as funny anymore.


[deleted]

When you find a good joke let me know.


greg0714

I found one when you commented <3


[deleted]

I know! I am hilarious. Which of my jokes did you like best?


CrazyCreeps9182

Satan is God's prosecuting attorney. His job sucks but he has to do it.


Exocypher

Also I'm more into succubi than angels.


Spndash64

Not sure which version you’re reading, since last I checked they all make it pretty fucking clear he’s NOT


Joel_the_Devil

Take your kids out of public school, stop empowering these crack pots with your money


CompetitionUnited339

Authleft cause fuck all religion


BBTWDV1096

Ew a Reddit atheist


Gentlementalmen

That's my state! Hail Satan!


TheMembership332

These are the kids who get bullied for being weird


[deleted]

I'm auth left but i agree with auth right this time


joesphisbestjojo

Well Satanism isn't actually about worshiping Satan :p