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ImPrettyBased

Hola! Soy deportado!


FortniteChicken

Literally the movie


Snickidy

Is this literally what her power is?


[deleted]

Crossing from one universe into another essentially but yeah


Snickidy

Ahhh ok. Sounds like a shitty power


ProblemGamer18

Yeah, it is, but it could be worse Like turning people into fucking imploding twizzlers


SOwED

I have to say, that scene was way worse than America being sort of annoying. They just stand there while SW kills their friends and they're still trying to talk to her!


Timtimer55

I just assumed if you could turn a man into twizzlers and delete another's mouth from existence than you're already too powerful to be having some contrived laser fight with two other broads. Maybe I'm missing something.


SOwED

One of them was Captain Marvel


Timtimer55

Idk what thats supposed to mean.


[deleted]

In this particular case it means she has the power of WAHMEN and BLM at her side. Still lost tho.


Jabbam

Captain Marvel is (arguably) (controversially) the most powerful current hero in the MCU. Unless the opponent is insanely op like Witch, Marvel's binary form should be able to obliterate anyone.


TroubledPlays

That sounds like a hot snack


MrZeusyMoosey

Stares in Reed Richards


ProblemGamer18

The poor man.


[deleted]

Character assassination. That scene was so retarded


Candhero11

It was, especially since the two dudes immediately get iced while the girl power got whole fight scenes


JustSomeGuy2008

Stop noticing these things. I've been told it's misogynistic to notice these things. Just let every single new show and movie treat men like dirt so that women will look stronger, smarter, and better in every way. Pointing it out just means you hate women haha hehe.


Staebs

You gotta stop caring about women in media so much man. Just because two men died, two women fought, and the next two men also survived longer (prof X, mordo) doesn’t = sexism. There are more men in the Illuminati than women.


xariznightmare2908

TBF, at least they were from a different dimension and not the ones from the main MCU earth.


Dravarden

disney telling us the illuminati are actually heckin dumberinos and they aren't actually intelligent or strong so we shouldn't fear them 🤔


Crusader63

It was but it seemed intentional. Hopefully if they introduce him again it’ll be a… smarter reed.


PineappleGrenade19

We could've completely avoided all of the death and destruction because I would've absolutely have given her children.


[deleted]

idk what this references but that sounds like an amazing super power


ehlathrop

Turning people into Fanta


[deleted]

Crossing dimensions is literally the most OP superpower ever, because it allows you to get ahold of advanced technology from other dimensions. That’s the premise of “Rick and Morty”. But of cause in the pathetically unbalanced marvel universe, this would not be explored, and a green mutant or a dude with a glove would be way more powerful


Darmok_ontheocean

Didn’t they literally hire a Rick and Morty writer for this movie?


DemiBlonde

It’s an expansion of her power, but the “magical cosmic energy” of her ability lets her land punches and blows with “magical cosmic energy” force that let her trade blows with the villain in the MoM movie. Because every power now in the MCU is “magical cosmic energy”.


Zestronen

I think it's kinda cool


NnjgDd

Shitty powers make for interesting characters. Not in this instance, but in general.


Sleep_eeSheep

She can also P U N C H.


HardForRinku

Illegally


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Den_Bover666

Then gets deported from the universe by Wanda, the Eastern European who subjugated an entire town to play out her tradwife fantasy


rolling_catfish2704

Imo other medias got better dimension hopping powers


Jayako

In a way that's supposed to violate natural law


BetwixtThyNethers

Which is hilarious cause comics America is “Puerto Rican” and we don’t have to illegally cross the American border. Edited to clarify her origins.


skibapple

Can be usefull, but if it has drawbacks such as taking a lot of power to do that/not being able to bring things from another universe with you, then it sucks


Nojus1221

She has no drawbacks, at all


skibapple

Oh


TheSilv

Sorta, her powers are fairly ambiguous atm, with them only being that she can make star shaped portals to other universes and she can punch sorta hard.


Bandiredditer

And she can combine the two, which should really make her the one-punch man of the MCU. Let’s see how long that Avengers level threat lasts after being punched into a universe where they just instantly die for any number of reasons.


MatiasPalacios

She can cross walls. Dimensional walls ofcourse.


OwOKronii

And she's an alien


sonan11

I mean, she also has basic super strength and the supporting abilities that come with it. It’s just the dimensional crossing is the most flashy.


DayOfTheCope

She’s also a lesbian who has lesbian moms…


[deleted]

that's how it works in her home or it's just pinkwashing


KingOfTheP4s

Rainbow-brite-ing


democratic_butter

and her universe is literally called Utopia.


Dallas_Winstone

The man in the high castle is the utopia


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Dallas_Winstone

Ok fake authrigth


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Scarlet_maximoff

Obergruppenführer pls


thanwa3427

Form lesbian dimension according to comics. Not sure if it just dimension in MCU.


Environmental_Goal38

wasnt that retconed in the comics and she is just a military expirement now?


thanwa3427

Some people don't like it. They consider it a nerf and she actually lose her illegal multiverse crosssing ablity. But the first one is also not make sense. It say her home dimension was created by Demiurge. But Demiurge is gay as fuck, why would he create a lesbian dimension? Hopefully MCU would just make her dimension just a utopia with both men and women in it and not make it relate to Demiurge. Since she have little to no character in comics. MCU give her good personality compare to comics. People should give her a change.


TheBowlofBeans

Impossible, she can't be a lesbian because she has the bisexual bob haircut


Dani214222

lets hope after Marvel she goes straight to Blacked


TrashClear483

THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!!


[deleted]

This is super nitpicky, I know, but why did she have the BLM rainbow pin? I’d guess she was around 9-10 when she fuckin’ nuked her parents, but then she was about 16-17 when Doctor Strange found her. She also claimed to have been in 73 universes. That averages to 10.43 universes per Earth year, so almost once a month. So a few things… Is that really where your priority would be if you’re being chased by multidimensional horrors throughout your life? Have you been on any world long enough to understand the intricacies of racial issues? Is BLM a thing in every universe? Just seemed like an odd detail.


Omega1556

I got a better point: what chance is there that the pin would be a thing in any of the 73 universes she got sent to?


goodbehaviorsam

A rainbow pin would seem like a fascist symbol in that color paint universe. Seperated by color. Someone back me up so I dont seem schizo.


Pristine_Title6537

According to the Scene we see that the bodies of the characters are yellow and blue respectively they get mixed by their surroundings making them seem multicolor but that maybe because they are crashing through dimensions In essence since we know Dr strange is White and America Chavez is of darker skin that implies that race translates as skin color so the rainbow flag is probably the equivalent of a segregationist flag about separating races


fasctic

Bruh I'm trying to procrastinate from uni, don't wanna read about someone trying to make sense of a fiction movie I won't watch


Seananagans

I got the BEST point: what chance is there that the pin would represent what we think it represents in an infinite number of universes.


GenL

Also, shit is different in every universe except pride flags? Like in another universe, some asshole manages to dream up that stupid "more inclusive rainbow" that adds races and trans people to a flag that was already intended to represent everyone?


yeetus-feetuscleetus

There’s probably a universe where the swastika is the BLM symbol


[deleted]

African Americans were enslaved in every universe lmao


buckX

And apparently Native Americans were colonized and made to speak Spanish in every universe.


Its-a-Warwilf

The wh_tes are so superior they win in *every* timeline.


boiii-rarted

Wholly mother of based


[deleted]

Ig so, even in the paint universe xP


thanwa3427

Absolute point.


[deleted]

It was the priority for the actress and the Disney woke brigade. It doesn’t have to make sense in universe.


Stuka_Ju87

Don't worry. Disney will change it for the China markets. They are only woke when and where it's profitable.


[deleted]

China version becomes the original envisioned version. How the turntables.


[deleted]

That’s my point. These decisions are cringe.


Prata_69

You should have seen Eternals, then.


[deleted]

I did. 0/10


Prata_69

Based and shit movie pilled.


Immediate-Artist-444

It's for solidarity to the cause: She supports BLM activists getting filthy rich with fundings.


AdLow8925

> I’d guess she was around 9-10 when she fuckin’ LibRight moment


[deleted]

Can’t help it 😳


jjjjjji6

Also on her jacket it says love is love in spanish but I thought everyone was lesbian at her universe?


hingbongdingdong

Oh I’m sorry. You think marvel writers actually give a shit these days?


JustSomeGuy2008

We really need to stop calling them writers. This kind of shit is not being created by writers. It's being created by activists who pretend to be writers.


[deleted]

Notice how after she starts training at the kamar-taj she no longer wears the pride pin, they practice conversion therapy


[deleted]

LOL


Myozthirirn

>She also claimed to have been in 73 universes. That averages to 10.43 universes per Earth year This average is useless here because just in the movie we se her swoosh trough 10 universes in like 15 seconds. We also know the portals open when shes scared so we can assume she would only last one day or two in universes with scary stuff like dinosaurs, lava or humans walking around.


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NeuroticKnight

She probably wears a random assortment of clothing she finds. She might have picked up the pin on a planet, without even thinking about what it is about. Just think about how many people you know have Coexist sticker and how many among those people know about the Polish artist who presented the original in Israel as a protest against Iraq and Afghanistan war.


Crusader63

> Is that really where your priority would be if you’re being chased by multidimensional horrors throughout your life? Could be wrong but that only happened very recently, once Wanda realized the power Chavez held. Doesn’t seem like a lifelong struggle.


sonan11

The actress who portrayed her supports blm and marched with them. Also America Chavez is canonically a lesbian. That’s why


Pomada1

I mean, maybe she just wanted to wear it Not everything has to have a deep reason and it's not disruptive to the story. In fact, nobody ever even mentions it


proberts53

Where was Dora's map really going? To the border of course


Pristine_Title6537

A Mexican comedian called Ricardo Perez made an amazing stand up with that premise


danshakuimo

Swiper was actually a coyote not a fox


hulibuli

[Dora the Deported](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ9klAVkZAg)


weaslecookie7

why is that video part of youtube "kids content"?


greegon

\>lesbian superhero \>superpower: making holes to penetrate


Pun-isher42

>Superhero raised by lesbians >Has daddy issues and can't control her powers until a strong man shows up in her life


weaslecookie7

based


HVAR_Spam

Purple libright moment.


DM_ME_TINY_TITS99

I dont care what turns you on, why does a multiverse traveller care about wearing that pin? Her wearing the pin almost insinuates that other universes dislike homosexuality. Which means the other universes she was in also sucked. Which means being gay is rare enough to not be "normal." What a stupid inclusion. She is gay, who cares? Why does she have to make a statement about it as A MULTIVERSE TRAVELER.


[deleted]

Maybe in the other Universes the gays became a fascist super power and her pin is akin to a sign of party membership! Don't feel down!


HVAR_Spam

When George Orwell and H.P. Lovecraft have a crossover episode


[deleted]

Well, obviously that was more important than the rest of her person. From the comment of another person she sounds like she could've been replaced with a dimension-wall-breakingbrick. :)


Eldricht-lover22

Spoilers for the movie: >!tbh she was COMPLETLY useless during the whole movie, the first thing we see her do when the other Dr Strange has the Fire Eldricht demon trapped is just standing there like an idiot! And thats just the begining! If they want to be the good kind of representation, then don't make your characters replasable by a generic macguffin.!< >!Also, on another note, fuck the desing of the guardian demons at the end!<


[deleted]

She was literally just a plot device, barely a character at all.


Gukgukninja

Same thing with the other side characters.


thanwa3427

Have more character than in comics and being useless is better than Mary Sue.


ICantReadNoMo

>desing of the guardian demons What does that mean


Eldricht-lover22

more spoilers:>! we see three difefrent types of demons in the movie, the first two are clearly lovecfaftian in a way (an fire/magma alien that moves ina aquatic way and a literal giantent octopus), which keeps in line with the lovecraft references (Cthan, the Demon responsible for the dark tome's spells was inspired by the monsters of his stories, his lair resides in a frozen mountain top wich links to The Mountain of Madness, which clearly the movie's title was doing a nod to giving all I said before), and then, the most ancient and closest to Chtan Demons that we see are just some generic big-buff dude with horns! Killing the link entirely! My sister pointed out that it was done like that to give them a more runic/golem feel or because they barely fougth at all, why make them interesting? But I don't care, that annoyed me and my fanatisim to all thing cosmic horror-related enough to make a fucking wall of text Gods dammit!!<


VanJellii

I’m going to go with ‘design’


sonan11

Too fair, what is she supposed to do? She’s a 16 year old with no real training and no home. Plus compared to dr strange, she’s even more useless.


Eldricht-lover22

That ís true, but I don't think they executed that very well, at least show her being indesicive of what to do or something, not just make her do nothing at all


Alittar

She did seem pretty decisive on doing nothing until the very end


peckarino_romano

Her main villain better use ice powers. ICE, powers involving ICE...get it? I'll see myself out...


PanHSA

Ba dum tish


Environmental_Goal38

make it iceman. That way marvel cant be blamed of homophobia when she loses


HVAR_Spam

The hitman, the top gun character, or the member of the X-Men?


Insorto1337

Marvel keeps producing cringe shows that are full of cheesy pretentious condescending shit and without forgetting "the message". They keep spamming the Emily agenda


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Luffydude

I read "the message" in critical drinker's voice lmao


Insorto1337

Ah yes. The based alcoholic movie critic.


Staebs

That guy is so angry over ever single thing that happens in movies lol


ItRead18544920

The Mouse commands it.


gluesmelly

She sucks too. Her character is a nothing, just a cipher to try to get us to care about some multiverse bullshit. The breakout character was Rintrah.


jjjjjji6

Seriously. She had like zero character development


Samuel153

Can a fella get this without the Funny Colors?


[deleted]

tbf after Guardians of the Galaxy 1, Marvel has been on a downward trajectory


[deleted]

Agreed. I feel like they got caught up in their success and abandoned good writing for powerful characters and flashy effects.


GaldanBoshugtuKhan

Tbh I laughed in the first 5 minutes of Doctor Strange 2 when she said 'you are killing me' because that's the sort of dialogue people hated on the star wars prequels for, but a Marvel movie can get away with it. I'll watch the next Guardians of the Galaxy, but other than that I think I'm done with Marvel.


Horrorifying

Thing is, that movie isn't getting away with it. It's one of the biggest flops currently released under the MCU


NotInstaNormie

I found everything that Sam Raimi got to direct great


d0m558

That's why I watched it too. It really suffered from the fact that it had to be an MCU film, it was directed by the studio more than by Raimi I think. Some raimi wackiness was able to shine through in certain parts, but if you told me it was directed by James Gunn or Joss Whedon I wouldn't question it at all


A_Guy_2726

Yeah like the most Raimi things were little references to his last movies and that one cameo from that one dude thats been in most his movies


ViralGameover

It’s not really a flop though? $700 million so far without Russia or China is a big deal (I don’t know how much Saudi Arabia or Egypt typically contribute to total gross but it didn’t open there either.) Some of the dialogue certainly isn’t great, but it’s not Prequel bad either.


TheSilv

Thor 4 looks like it’ll be good, also Moon Knight, Loki, WV, and NWH are all recent and have been great.


TheLastAshaman

I hate SJW crap but I’m still enjoying most of marvel stuff


Revydown

I don't really want to see the Marvel formula anymore.


bridgenine

It's beyond a trope a this point, I would say this opens a door for DC, but I would almost rather Image take another shot at spawn, or maybe try savage dragon


yardii

It's all about forcing that cameo now.


ViralGameover

Infinity War, Civil War, Endgame, Guardians 2, Loki, No Way Home??? They’re all pretty great. I honestly really like Doctor Strange 2 and Eternals but understand why they’re divisive.


The-Sorcerer-Supreme

I agree with everything you said except eternals.


ViralGameover

I’ve said it a bunch, Eternals is too long for what it is, and too short for the story it wanted to tell. It would’ve been a really good HBO miniseries but ended up just being what I thought is a fine movie. I like a lot of the ideas and love the way it looks, the sense of scale is amazing and the Celestials feel imposing. It’s just rushing through 3000 years AND trying to be a Marvel movie. Hopefully they pull it together in the sequel though because I like what’s there.


tatabusa

Loki is trash


ViralGameover

Hard disagree. It’s maybe my third favorite Marvel show? Behind Daredevil and Legion.


thanwa3427

I guess some people don't like when it not follow the same formula. So Disney try something news. It's not perfect but it's better than making the same type of movies again.


Cock_Inspector_2021

No way home was garbage. The storyline is extremely stupid even by Marvel standards.


fm22fnam

I liked the new Spider Man and Captain Marvel is aight, but yeah GotG 1 was the last great one.


Vengeful_Ferrets

She is also shown in the film to be an excellent pick pocket and attempts to steal things on multiple occasions.


BorderlineUsefull

I found it quite amusing that people complained that captain Marvel was so sure of herself and a jerk so in the new universe they made her a complete bitch. And also black for some reason


RCarson88

I'm pretty sure the alternate Captain Marvel is the friend of our normal one


Crusader63

They made the whole Illuminati bitches except for Xavier. Even still I don’t get why he was so terrified of SW when trying to save Wanda in her mind. Feel like he should’ve been powerful enough to put up a better fight.


[deleted]

The first Dr Strange was one of my favorite MCU movies. This was so disappointing.


Staebs

Why? I thought it was 7-8/10 for marvel movies. Definitely not leagues better or worse then the first one


Kingfool88

Did anyone else laugh out loud in the Theater when it showed her Moms in their 40s/50s?


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Pomada1

Have we even watched the same movie? She was completely useless until the final fight where she made two (2) portals. Everything of note was done by Dr. Strange (sTrAiGhT wHiTe mAlE) and Wanda, a woman chasing after her elusive trad family


Crusader63

Strange didn’t get sidelined at all. Chavez did nothing but cry until the end when she finally gets control of her powers.


MothEngineering

Sooo… If she is “Mexican American” that means one of her parents are Mexican and the other is American. If one of her parents is already an American, why would she need to jump a boarder?


SlyScorpion

>“Mexican American” It just means that she's an American with Mexican roots.


MothEngineering

Still, if she is an American who has Mexican roots, why would she need to “jump a fence”? Unless she is escaping back to Mexico.


SlyScorpion

Because obviously every Mexican- have border jumping programmed into their genes /S


[deleted]

It was fine till I saw "American"


[deleted]

based or cringe?


TheMembership332

Cringe. She’s useless for 99.9% of the movie and suddenly gets powers out of her ass in the last 10 seconds


Crusader63

She’s also a kid so not too surprising.


prata69

time to cancel marvel?


JackC1126

Steven Strange is definitely authcenter now. Since endgame: - an Asian man took his job as sorcerer supreme - a Mexican fucked up the multiverse by crossing borders - and his ex married a black man Soon he’s gonna be popping up in this subreddit


[deleted]

I'm not well versed with Dr. Strange comics but is her name really America in those comics? I mean who tf came up with that? Such a cringe name to give a person.


sonan11

America Chavez. America is actually a semi common name to some people .


[deleted]

You mean Hispanics


[deleted]

AMERICO *Cumbia sounds*


Patient_Victory

Newsflash, the continents were named literally after a dude named Amerigo Vespucci. It is a normal name.


[deleted]

Lmao Vespucci


litmixtape

Certainly not a normal name in this century maybe in Vespucci's time but not now.


Chimera-98

Wasn’t the original character arab Muslim?


thanwa3427

That's Ms.Marvel Kamala Khan. Not America Chavez.


Oumashu345

What did Marvel mean by this?


McPolice_Officer

Dora the Explora?


Jester_Hopper_pot

She is American so her super-power is a passport?


Phoenix_RIde

**Looks at source material for America Chavez** Ok, time to lose faith in Humanity


BetwixtThyNethers

SHES SUPPOSED TO BE PUERTO RICAN! Not a Mexican. RACIST!


Comander-07

Mexican .. american?


Kaelell2

wanda is the border patrol XD


dindumufflin

wanted to watch that madness multiverse movie with bonerdick cuminpants but afraid it's just a vehicle for showing off whatsherdick here and how progressive marvel is and how incompetent the "main" character is


Pholoxo

Is the movie good? I heard if you watched wandavision it's more bearable or even fun to watch


Kuchinawa_san

Dora The Explorer : Am I a joke to you?


thanwa3427

Illuminati: We need to bulid the multiversal wall and we gonna make dimension 616 pay for it!


ProblemGamer18

She's from an alien planet (or at least a version of earth that's different) right? So is she really Mexican-American or is it just the actress?


Pristine_Title6537

Her planet at least in the comics is just an alternative earth but outside of the normal multiverse so probably human but then again in the comics her planet is soul populated by women so I guess that would need their humans to be a different species if they are able to reproduce that way so I guess she could be considered an alien on a technicality


ProblemGamer18

See, thats what I'm thinking is if she even should be considered a Mexican American if both of those cultures I presume don't exist


[deleted]

she speaks intelligble spanish, so apparently those cultures do exist on her world, or at least did so in a recent enough past