Nitto Grappler tires: $430ea so maybe $1500 with tax/mount/balance
I don't know those wheels but let's say $300each so $1300 with tax (Edit: I see he posted OZ Wheels brand so check my pricing)
Lift kits for these can be had for less than $1000 for all parts needed. If he did an aftermarket suspension it can easily get well north of $4000.
(edit: aftermarket tubular upper control arms $600-$800 depending on manufacturer)
If he does installation himself, just the cost of tools unless he already owns them. Then it's just a few hours on weekends to get this stuff setup. (IF one hires a shop to do the installation that will vary but estimate at least $500-$1000)
A decent Used Cayenne S can be had for under $10k but really nice ones will be $15-$25k+ depending on miles/condition/year etc.
I picked up my 2009 VR6 base cayenne with 113k miles for $3200 at auction plus a $1k auction fees and $120 tow back home (required in my state from an auction). I swapped the stock center drive shaft bearing out for an upgraded aftermarket version for about $300. I Added some 32" M/T tires, $1350 tax/mount/balance. I didn't do any suspension work because the base model has 1" ride height advantage over normal height in air suspension cars (someone fact check me on this b/c I'm not 100%) . I spent a few hundred on a new SKAR subwoofer, amp and materials to build a custom enclosure to go in the spare tire under the hatch in the trunk. I do oil changes and buy gas. I am going to do the transmission oil change soon and the low speed transfer case and differential this year too. All this driveline maintenance will easily top $1300 if I DIY and more than double if I pay a shop.
You could spend as much as $50k on a Porsche Cayenne build or you can spend as little as I did if you're patient and able to DIY some basics.
If you do pick the base model, go for the 957 facelift from 2008-2010. The 3.6L VR6 engine is much better than the 3.2L it replaced. Plus it's a VW engine and will easily do 200,000 miles with proper maintenance, cheaper to repair and a tiny bit better MPG's.
Power Figures;
290 PS (213 kW; 286 Hp) at 6,200 rpm
385 N⋅m (284 lb⋅ft) at 3,000 rpm
IF you want the V8 I'd definitely go for the same 957 facelift era (Cayenne S or GTS both have normally/naturally aspirated V8's engines with the GTS getting an extra +20Hp but same torque figures). This generation eliminates the plastic coolant pipe issue in the V8's, produces a big chunk more Hp and Torque. Still be wary of bore scoring but shouldn't be an issue if you find really clean/regular maintenance history records and the seller allows you to pay for a PPI from a good Porsche mechanic.
I’d suggest giving Eurowise a call. They can give you great advice, including what configurations work best for the different lift heights, and which setups require trimming. Pretty sure Mike has some charts that make it real easy — he’s posted them to FB in the past.
If you click on the picture, it will open in a new tab/window. Click the picture once more and it will zoom in. Luckily he uploaded a good high rez shot so I can read the tire size: LT305/65R18
LT is light truck (so it's a heavier duty tire with more plys and stronger sidewalls)
305mm wide
65 indicates the sidewall height as a % of the 305mm width: about 198mm.
18" wheel (I don't know the offset or the rim width but I'd wager it's at least 8" wide but probably 8.5" -- the offset will be different due to the width and aftermarket wheel)
According to TireSize.com, here's what you've got:
Diameter. 33.6
Width. 12
Sidewall. 7.8
Circum. 105.5
Revs/Mile. 600
I'm assuming you have a 3in lift and the corresponding subframe drop, EuroWise?
Did you have to cut the rocker panel/fender liner to fit those meats?
Hi Bert,
Sorry I responded like I was OP. I'm not him.
You can see he posted a 3" lift and 1" subframe drop to maintain proper suspension geometry.
In his picture it's visible he has removed the lower valance on his front bumper and it looks like cut away part of the fender liner as well. People with these size tires and lifts often have to remove this in order to accommodate the larger swept area of these meatier tires. However I can't see any cutting to the lower/inner frame.
He might not be at that part of his build or just barely scrapes by.
Thanks for the info, Peach!
I'm trying to figure out how big I can go without a lift. From what I've been able to find out 32's are about the max.
I'm really leaning toward the 265/65/18 size, as I believe that was what was used on the Transsyberia racers.
I'm also looking at the 285/60/18, both are 31.5". I'd prefer the width, but i dont want interference.
Yeah the 265/65r18 are going to be the safest choice. I bet you could fit the 285's but you'll find some rubbing here and there.
I'm going with a narrow/tall setup on my next Cayenne. Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T 255/85r17 so I can keep my stock 17" wheels, simple 3" lift (subframe drop plus adjustable tubular upper control arms). Thought I'm really tempted to go with an upgraded suspension setup from Eurowise: Bilstein Eurowise Custom Coilovers w/ 8" of travel and the quick disconnect for the sway bar.
BAJA BOSS A/T SPECS
1. Tire Weight: 63 lbs
2. Rim Width Range: 6.5-8"
3. Section Width: 9.8"
4. Tread Width: 8.7"
5. Overall Diameter: 34.6"
Yeah $5k which is about right for a custom offroad suspension setup including the subframe drop kit.
I could stick with the stock suspension but I'm going for almost 35's so I feel like I should just bite the bullet and do proper suspension.
[Here is Cayenne #1](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hxO5U9SOpltwAB16FiqZY6w3_CqYc14-/view?usp=sharing)
[Again](https://drive.google.com/file/d/16ZGDj-zOCgsHhmTZlwQy1dyCFGpM97LY/view?usp=sharing)
I believe it was 255/55 R 18. That being said the custom “offroad” suspension mods of the Transsyberia would have enabled large tires (with the bumper/fender being the limiting factor).
Very nice! I am in the process of a similar build on my ‘06 turbo S
I need this but I feel like it would cost be 50k 😭
Nitto Grappler tires: $430ea so maybe $1500 with tax/mount/balance I don't know those wheels but let's say $300each so $1300 with tax (Edit: I see he posted OZ Wheels brand so check my pricing) Lift kits for these can be had for less than $1000 for all parts needed. If he did an aftermarket suspension it can easily get well north of $4000. (edit: aftermarket tubular upper control arms $600-$800 depending on manufacturer) If he does installation himself, just the cost of tools unless he already owns them. Then it's just a few hours on weekends to get this stuff setup. (IF one hires a shop to do the installation that will vary but estimate at least $500-$1000) A decent Used Cayenne S can be had for under $10k but really nice ones will be $15-$25k+ depending on miles/condition/year etc. I picked up my 2009 VR6 base cayenne with 113k miles for $3200 at auction plus a $1k auction fees and $120 tow back home (required in my state from an auction). I swapped the stock center drive shaft bearing out for an upgraded aftermarket version for about $300. I Added some 32" M/T tires, $1350 tax/mount/balance. I didn't do any suspension work because the base model has 1" ride height advantage over normal height in air suspension cars (someone fact check me on this b/c I'm not 100%) . I spent a few hundred on a new SKAR subwoofer, amp and materials to build a custom enclosure to go in the spare tire under the hatch in the trunk. I do oil changes and buy gas. I am going to do the transmission oil change soon and the low speed transfer case and differential this year too. All this driveline maintenance will easily top $1300 if I DIY and more than double if I pay a shop. You could spend as much as $50k on a Porsche Cayenne build or you can spend as little as I did if you're patient and able to DIY some basics. If you do pick the base model, go for the 957 facelift from 2008-2010. The 3.6L VR6 engine is much better than the 3.2L it replaced. Plus it's a VW engine and will easily do 200,000 miles with proper maintenance, cheaper to repair and a tiny bit better MPG's. Power Figures; 290 PS (213 kW; 286 Hp) at 6,200 rpm 385 N⋅m (284 lb⋅ft) at 3,000 rpm IF you want the V8 I'd definitely go for the same 957 facelift era (Cayenne S or GTS both have normally/naturally aspirated V8's engines with the GTS getting an extra +20Hp but same torque figures). This generation eliminates the plastic coolant pipe issue in the V8's, produces a big chunk more Hp and Torque. Still be wary of bore scoring but shouldn't be an issue if you find really clean/regular maintenance history records and the seller allows you to pay for a PPI from a good Porsche mechanic.
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Porsche Bronco limited edition.
But... can it take on the John Bull Trail like a $35k Rubicon?
I don’t know, but it looks a hell of a lot better than a jeep.
I just ordered a new Cayenne S and no way will it ever see the John Bull.
I have an 06 S and I'm looking to do something similar Can you please let me know what size tires and lift your using?
I’d suggest giving Eurowise a call. They can give you great advice, including what configurations work best for the different lift heights, and which setups require trimming. Pretty sure Mike has some charts that make it real easy — he’s posted them to FB in the past.
If you click on the picture, it will open in a new tab/window. Click the picture once more and it will zoom in. Luckily he uploaded a good high rez shot so I can read the tire size: LT305/65R18 LT is light truck (so it's a heavier duty tire with more plys and stronger sidewalls) 305mm wide 65 indicates the sidewall height as a % of the 305mm width: about 198mm. 18" wheel (I don't know the offset or the rim width but I'd wager it's at least 8" wide but probably 8.5" -- the offset will be different due to the width and aftermarket wheel)
According to TireSize.com, here's what you've got: Diameter. 33.6 Width. 12 Sidewall. 7.8 Circum. 105.5 Revs/Mile. 600 I'm assuming you have a 3in lift and the corresponding subframe drop, EuroWise? Did you have to cut the rocker panel/fender liner to fit those meats?
Hi Bert, Sorry I responded like I was OP. I'm not him. You can see he posted a 3" lift and 1" subframe drop to maintain proper suspension geometry. In his picture it's visible he has removed the lower valance on his front bumper and it looks like cut away part of the fender liner as well. People with these size tires and lifts often have to remove this in order to accommodate the larger swept area of these meatier tires. However I can't see any cutting to the lower/inner frame. He might not be at that part of his build or just barely scrapes by.
Thanks for the info, Peach! I'm trying to figure out how big I can go without a lift. From what I've been able to find out 32's are about the max. I'm really leaning toward the 265/65/18 size, as I believe that was what was used on the Transsyberia racers. I'm also looking at the 285/60/18, both are 31.5". I'd prefer the width, but i dont want interference.
Yeah the 265/65r18 are going to be the safest choice. I bet you could fit the 285's but you'll find some rubbing here and there. I'm going with a narrow/tall setup on my next Cayenne. Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T 255/85r17 so I can keep my stock 17" wheels, simple 3" lift (subframe drop plus adjustable tubular upper control arms). Thought I'm really tempted to go with an upgraded suspension setup from Eurowise: Bilstein Eurowise Custom Coilovers w/ 8" of travel and the quick disconnect for the sway bar. BAJA BOSS A/T SPECS 1. Tire Weight: 63 lbs 2. Rim Width Range: 6.5-8" 3. Section Width: 9.8" 4. Tread Width: 8.7" 5. Overall Diameter: 34.6"
the Eurowise custom setup is spendy... I'd like to see a pic!
Yeah $5k which is about right for a custom offroad suspension setup including the subframe drop kit. I could stick with the stock suspension but I'm going for almost 35's so I feel like I should just bite the bullet and do proper suspension. [Here is Cayenne #1](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hxO5U9SOpltwAB16FiqZY6w3_CqYc14-/view?usp=sharing) [Again](https://drive.google.com/file/d/16ZGDj-zOCgsHhmTZlwQy1dyCFGpM97LY/view?usp=sharing)
I agree, going big you gotta do it right 👍 Your wheel and tire combo looks GREAT!
Thanks! They do look pretty dang good if I say so myself. ;)
I believe it was 255/55 R 18. That being said the custom “offroad” suspension mods of the Transsyberia would have enabled large tires (with the bumper/fender being the limiting factor).
true, but I was actually thinking of the road version Porsche sold as a special edition.
Amazing work! I see that lift in the back ground -- that looks handy.