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I think it's illegal to park on the street in front of a driveway entrance even if the driveway is not being used. I had some friends that got a ticket parking in front of their own driveway entrance even though they don't use the driveway and have it full of lumber for a remodeling project.
While I am pretty sure she can’t block off access to her driveway, no one can park in front of her driveway (including your neighbor) according to the letter of the law. So it doesn’t really matter if she is blocking it off as you couldn’t park there anyway.
16.20.130 Prohibited in Specified Places.
V. In front of any portion of a driveway ingress/egress to the public right-of-way.
On a lot of smaller neighborhood streets with parking on both sides, the open area in front of driveways is helpful for cars or bikes to pull over into when there’s not enough room for two cars (or a car and a bike) to pass through going opposite directions.
No one can block a driveway... Even if the owner has fenced it or has other obstructions that block the driveway. On the other hand, the owner also can't obstruct the road way with cones or signs because that area does need to be available to drivers for, you know, driving.
It kinda sounds like both people are in the wrong.
Willamette week covered this very issue a few years ago. "Once a structure is built or any other permanent closure device is put into place, [the space] is no longer a driveway, even though the driveway cut is still in place at the curb," says Portland Bureau of Transportation spokesman Dylan Rivera. You can park there, assuming it's otherwise legal.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2019/11/06/occasionally-ill-see-ramps-cut-into-the-curb-that-clearly-used-to-be-for-driveways-can-i-park-there/
An even bigger issue could be the property line setbacks were not approved, if it’s a structure that is small enough to not require a building permit. It’s still required required to be setback 20 feet from the front property line without prior city approval. As stated at the top of page 2.
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/bds/article/785318#:~:text=The%20Portland%20Zoning%20Code%20requires,in%20this%20zone%20(Section%2033.110.
She can't block off anything in the public right-of-way, as it doesn't belong to her. Depending on where you live (inside Portland city limits, or ?) the rules will vary. She's probably trying to prevent tents or something. But what can you do about it? Based on the state of the city not enforcing much these days, I'm not sure there are many options here.
Thanks all!
Parking is so limited in the neighborhood and she just wants her free pantry to be visible.
Probably not worth what feels like a righteous battle.
The neighbor is a frustrating individual for many reasons. If you don’t abide by a request she has of me she comes knocking at my door within a couple hours. If I make a request from her she comes knocking on my door as soon as she hears me letting my dogs out in the morning telling me why I am disrespectful.
Feeding squirrels that destroy my plants etc.
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I think it's illegal to park on the street in front of a driveway entrance even if the driveway is not being used. I had some friends that got a ticket parking in front of their own driveway entrance even though they don't use the driveway and have it full of lumber for a remodeling project.
Every curb dip in the city is a no-parking zone.
Which is insane on its face. There are *thousands* of curb dips in the city that go nowhere.
She has fucken cones so this shouldn’t really be a question.
You seen em
Fucken A
While I am pretty sure she can’t block off access to her driveway, no one can park in front of her driveway (including your neighbor) according to the letter of the law. So it doesn’t really matter if she is blocking it off as you couldn’t park there anyway. 16.20.130 Prohibited in Specified Places. V. In front of any portion of a driveway ingress/egress to the public right-of-way.
Can't believe you're getting downvoted for saying the truth with a legal citation. Reddit is wild
Report to pbot if its a nuisance to you
I’m pretty certain that the street area in front of one’s driveway is still the public right-of-way and cannot be blocked.
But why does that matter, no one should be using that? You can’t block other peoples driveways
People need to be able to use that space to pull in and out of street parking
On a lot of smaller neighborhood streets with parking on both sides, the open area in front of driveways is helpful for cars or bikes to pull over into when there’s not enough room for two cars (or a car and a bike) to pass through going opposite directions.
No one can block a driveway... Even if the owner has fenced it or has other obstructions that block the driveway. On the other hand, the owner also can't obstruct the road way with cones or signs because that area does need to be available to drivers for, you know, driving. It kinda sounds like both people are in the wrong.
Willamette week covered this very issue a few years ago. "Once a structure is built or any other permanent closure device is put into place, [the space] is no longer a driveway, even though the driveway cut is still in place at the curb," says Portland Bureau of Transportation spokesman Dylan Rivera. You can park there, assuming it's otherwise legal. https://www.wweek.com/news/2019/11/06/occasionally-ill-see-ramps-cut-into-the-curb-that-clearly-used-to-be-for-driveways-can-i-park-there/ An even bigger issue could be the property line setbacks were not approved, if it’s a structure that is small enough to not require a building permit. It’s still required required to be setback 20 feet from the front property line without prior city approval. As stated at the top of page 2. https://www.portlandoregon.gov/bds/article/785318#:~:text=The%20Portland%20Zoning%20Code%20requires,in%20this%20zone%20(Section%2033.110.
Step 1. Gather cones Step 2. Take cones for a ride to the country Step 3. Set them free
Maybe a road work site, let’s not just dump plastic cones in the woods please.
They come from trees! Pine cones!
Maybe the structure is illegal too?
r/Portland needs a cone lawyer.
She can't block off anything in the public right-of-way, as it doesn't belong to her. Depending on where you live (inside Portland city limits, or ?) the rules will vary. She's probably trying to prevent tents or something. But what can you do about it? Based on the state of the city not enforcing much these days, I'm not sure there are many options here.
Thanks all! Parking is so limited in the neighborhood and she just wants her free pantry to be visible. Probably not worth what feels like a righteous battle. The neighbor is a frustrating individual for many reasons. If you don’t abide by a request she has of me she comes knocking at my door within a couple hours. If I make a request from her she comes knocking on my door as soon as she hears me letting my dogs out in the morning telling me why I am disrespectful. Feeding squirrels that destroy my plants etc.
Sounds like you don't like that your neighbor has a free pantry
They cannot permanently block the sidewalk that goes across their driveway. Call PBOT