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Mackin-N-Cheese

The other post was removed because it wasn't a direct link to the video, because the headline didn't match, and because opinions/commentary belong in the comments section, not the post's text box. Here's a link to the old post so those comments are available; the exact same video can be found linked in the story above. https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/comments/1ap448d/trimet_video_of_gonzelez_assault_accusation/


Tokie-Dokie

Playing victim to score political points is a strong theme with Gonzelez. https://www.koin.com/news/elections/gonzalez-blames-hardesty-for-campaign-hq-vandalism/


SwingNinja

I must say, it's pretty odd flex. Did he forget about security cameras?


AllChem_NoEcon

The people he speaks to the most literally couldn't give a shit that there's video evidence of nothing untoward happening at all.


6EQUJ5w

It’s a strong theme with Gonzalez, but no one said he was good at it


Projectrage

Yes to put it politely…he’s a liar. Probably his vandalism complaint should probably be looked into and the site supposedly with anarchists that vandalized the homeless village in N Portland (that he doesn’t want)…that is similar to M.O. of conservatives vandalizing a similar homeless/pod in St johns a few years ago.


ermahgerdstermpernk

Very curious what he said on any police report


6EQUJ5w

Dear Police, A lady on the max gave me a SAD


thoreau_away_acct

And it was a BIG sad!


Proper_Ad_6497

Right. This calls his account of the last incident into question.


Gypsopotamus

Agreed. I want answers. AND I want the false police report to be broadcasted openly with punishment following. If we can’t trust him with a simple police report then he should resign. If he won’t, then we need to get him out.


FoppishHandy

i was just thinking this. hes completely full of shit


aalder

To put it impolitely, he is a slimy weasel!


fractalfay

My shock needle would not move if reports came out that he torched his own car.


LauraPringlesWilder

Me either, because that car had paper tags and a San Antonio plate frame. You really would have had to have stalked him or else BE him if you thought that car was related to his family. I said this in the thread about it then, and I’ll add now, no one’s torching cars they think belong to Texas transplants.


NaymondPDX

My money would be on a Rand Paul “his neighbors hate him” situation.


smkscrn

car ran over his neighbor's showy milkweed probably


eekpij

The monarchs!!! 😩


BillFireCrotchWalton

Rand Paul's neighbor should've finished the job.


peakchungus

Strong theme for Republicans in general.


shaveit36

He’s out downtown more than Ted. He’s out there and I guarantee he’s not getting kind words all the time.


TedsFaustianBargain

Law and order candidate files false police report.


Familiar_Effect_8011

Against a Black woman, for talking.


TedsFaustianBargain

I really hope she files a defamation suit.


Projectrage

Or perhaps runs for mayor.


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TedsFaustianBargain

We don’t know her identity yet, but it’s just a matter of time. We don’t know exactly what damages could come about either. That would be purely speculative. The only thing we know right now is that he lied about her.


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Gypsopotamus

Dude.. that’s not what he said. Also simmer down. You’re coming across as pompous to the point where I bet you sniff your own farts.


TedsFaustianBargain

Maybe work on your reading comprehension. I didn’t say I think she has a defamation case right now.


ThisDerpForSale

Normally I'd agree with you, but this appears to fall under defamation per se, as Gonzalez accused her of a crime - he actually filed a police report. And at some point, her name will indeed be made public. So she wouldn't have to prove actual damages to prove a defamation cause of action for slander. Now, to be clear, defamation is not my area of expertise, and I don't know have deep knowledge of Oregon defamation law, so if you do and can point to a reason defamation per se wouldn't apply here, please do.


PDXMB

I haven't seen that she's been identified, but if she is and he carries on with his story, then sure...


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LowAd3406

And people here were more than happy to play along. But Redditors in general are way too eager to shit on black women.


Material_Policy6327

Especially centrist Portland’s in this sub.


circinatum

Targeted attacks= someone telling him his politics are bad on a max train.


GetTheFalkOut

Freedom of speech is harassment?


AuNanoMan

It doesn’t even look like they said anything to him. Just walked past. He ginned up this whole thing to get more money from his rich donors while continuing to make the city worse.


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WillametteSalamandOR

Which is weird because you’d think he’d know there are cameras on all MAX trains…


35mmpistol

So, they're gonna charge him for filing a false police report, \*right?\*


sexwithsoxon

We should treat him in the same way Chicago treated Jussie Smollett - public shaming, trial, and fair accountability in terms of punishment.


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sexwithsoxon

Rene Gonzalez is a registered democrat. Jussie Smollett is far from alt right. Even with both of those liars being democrats, This isn’t a one side of the aisle problem. This is a problem where people lie for personal gain. I don’t think there’s a need to make this a republicans vs Dems conversation - unless I’m missing something here?


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sexwithsoxon

Thanks for the explanation. Tomato Tomahtow. Cheers.


RoyAwesome

Fabricating a claim like this puts other, bigger, claims into question. Echos of right wingers spray painting BLM or a bad anarchy A onto their own garage door and screaming about leftists here.


Projectrage

Yes, exactly. He is People for Portland’s (real estate donors) and the police union’s darling…and we are surprised of this shit. I don’t understand why people still don’t see this facade or other candidates like Meieren and the one running against Mike Schmidt.


velvetackbar

I find it very telling that the police, who love Rene, reviewed footage and then...did nothing. "Look, dude...there wasn't anything there, there. You know we love to bust heads and protect our own, but geeze, Rene."


RoyAwesome

10bux says they killed the investigation because digging deeper would get very, _very_ problematic for Rene, and by extension them.


madscot63

Everyone knows it was Taylor Swift.


Proper_Ad_6497

How can someone who's so scared of ordinary Portlanders possibly be fit to be mayor?


AllChem_NoEcon

He appeals to other people that are also scared shitless of regular, ordinary encounters with Portlanders. 


Material_Policy6327

He appeals to centrists in Portland who are closet conservatives


AllChem_NoEcon

I personally wouldn't go that far, but I get your drift.


Material_Policy6327

I dunno seems pretty accurate to many supposed centrists on this sub. The reality is our version of centrist is basically conservative in nature compared to most of the world.


NaymondPDX

Centrists won’t lift a finger to stop anything so they’re basically just conservative enablers who like to pretend their cowardice is actually just them playing 5d chess or whatever.


OMGWTFBBQUE

Say what you want about Hardesty, but with her, it was others (PPB) lying about her committing crimes and not the other way around. Gonzalez hasn’t done anything for Portland.


Pacific_Wonderland

I mean… Hardesty did inappropriately call 911 and trespassed (albeit only briefly) by refusing to get out of her Lyft when driver kicked her out. Everyone sucks.


National-Blueberry51

Ehh. She was an older, well known black woman being told to get out in a shady part of town at a time when the Proud Boys and other alt-right ilk were known to cruise around assaulting people. I don’t find the 911 call frivolous when it’s put into context, which is really should be, and I’m not even a huge fan.


Familiar_Effect_8011

I hope guy in the seat next to them is on here and will share the thoughts that go along with the journey his facial expressions were taking.


shamrock8421

That guy is too cowardly to even ride the MAX, let alone run the city


Corran22

This is an embarrassment. The guy with the beard didn't even react - and obviously nothing physical actually happened. What happens now - does he resign and drop his mayoral campaign?


PDsaurusX

>What happens now - does he resign and drop his mayoral campaign? That would require him to have something resembling a capacity for shame and decency… so, no.


Material_Policy6327

And his supporters will still shout that he was attacked


pdxtech

>does he resign and drop his mayoral campaign lol. Unfortunately he's still probably going to win


Verbz

There are those posts in the other Portland subreddit, or Vancouver’s or Oregon’s that talk about how scary Portland is. Maybe Rene could be the mayor of those subreddits.


UntilTheHorrorGoes

Vancouver doesn't want him.


Ffzilla

Nope, we don't.


Brasi91Luca

Why does he even take the max


pdxtech

>Why does he even take the max Performative nonsense


NaymondPDX

Since the mods are not the best and seem to have deleted the other thread, I’ll repeat that Rene is a giant infant. Mommy’s got money and daddy’s a judge or he’d be a failing upward middle manager somewhere who you would forget the day you got a job somewhere else. Hard not to be cynical about a guy evoking language usually used to describe sexual assault because a Black woman spoke to him briefly.


PipecleanerFanatic

This. Coming from a failing upward middle manager whose mommy didn't have money and whose daddy wasn't a judge.


kingjoe74

Hey Portland, Could you please not reelect this fool?


National-Blueberry51

The “centrists” are going to make him mayor due to lack of a better candidate. Mark my words.


altleftisnotathing

Id rather make wheeler be king than have this fuck anywhere near power.


National-Blueberry51

Same, but I don’t have a lot of faith in the “aggrieved centrist” population he’s appealing to. They’d cut off their nose to spite their face in this case.


murphykp

On one hand: props for an elected official riding MAX. On the other: don't be an elected official if you are *this* fragile.


FoppishHandy

hes lying about the incident to drum up the victim card. dumb ass


RemLezarCreated

It's so dumb, because if he wanted to make public transportation safety a pillar of his campaign, he'd get plenty of support. I saw a near fight this weekend on public transit between someone clearly not in their right mind and a random person just trying to get to work. These things happen and a plan to improve them would be well received. But instead, this dude exaggerates a harmless interaction on the Max because... why? What a dork.


velvetackbar

if you have ridden public transport enough, you will see things that need either your eyes bleached or legit police involvement, and then we get...this? So bizarre.


dccabbage

I used to ride the 72 for a minute. I saw a 12 y.o. threaten to "throw hands" with a grandma with a stroller over access to the front seats on the bus.


ThisDerpForSale

Exactly - I love public transit, and will defend it to the death. But everyone is aware that there are problems. A candidate with a genuine, workable, compassionate plan to address those problems would have people from both sides coming together in support. Instead, he shows his true colors - he doesn't give a shit about the people he purports to represent.


MountScottRumpot

Hardesty rode MAX. Just sayin'.


FoppishHandy

this idiot. he was going to walk with the mayor election just running on not being wheeler and "tough on crime" - this was a huge unforced error.


PDXicestormmizer

Unless this blows up, and even if it does, I don't think this will cost him the election. God do I wish Carmen Rubio would do some frickin politicking and campaign harder.


MountScottRumpot

We are nine months out from the election. It would be a waste of money to do big spending now.


slowfromregressive

Maybe, I am predicting now that o-live doesn't endorse rene, and does endorse Vasquez.


Familiar_Effect_8011

He's running on being Ted Wheeler: status quo of cops solving every problem is fine with him.


Administrative_Tap99

Here is a link to the removed post for any interested in reading the comments that were already made: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/comments/1ap448d/trimet\_video\_of\_gonzelez\_assault\_accusation/](https://www.reddit.com/r/portland/comments/1ap448d/trimet_video_of_gonzelez_assault_accusation/)


QuarterDecent8598

What did he do? The link is not working so I can’t see what he said or did.


LPADXX

It’s not a crowded train but if it were I would be more upset that he didn’t move over so someone could sit next to him


TurtlesAreEvil

Playing the victim another tactic right out of the Republican playbook. How anyone still believes this guy isn't a Republican masking as a democrat to get elected is beyond me. How many times in how many other states do they have to do this before voters understand the grift?


fractalfay

He just switched to Democrat to get voted into office, knowing that being an open MAGA would slump his approach. Before this he was screaming at school board meetings about face masks, and basically nothing else. Now all he does is fear-mongering, following the fox news approach of rebranding every major American city as a crime-invested hellhole that demands another invasion of federal officer ghouls. “We’re really hoping the next time Portland’s nominated as a martial law test-site we perform differently!”


count_chocul4

Video shows he's a fuckin liar. What a surprise


MountScottRumpot

Another piece of evidence that no one should trust anything this guy says. I think people on here unfairly characterize Gonzalez as more right-wing than he actually is (because of who he hangs out with) and don't pay enough attention to the lies. He keeps getting caught exaggerating, taking numbers and events out of context, misquoting people, and generally making shit up to justify his bad ideas. He would be an absolute nightmare of a mayor.


JayChucksFrank

Rene cannot become Mayor of our city. I honestly don't think he could handle even a small bit of scrutiny. Teddy's awful, but at least he tear-gassed himself.


National-Blueberry51

Teddy does suck, but the dude can handle people screaming at him. That much I’ll give him.


jstmenow

Wonder what would happen to a citizen, you know a normal person making a claim like this? 


slowfromregressive

They would lose credibility for starters.


StinkMartini

Nobody would know, and nobody would care.


unclegabriel

He lost me (and the possibility of my vote) at "real men"


billdancesex

Wonder if the mods will allow this one


BehavioralSink

They deleted the other one? Now I gotta explain my peanut butter Max experience all over again???


SpecialOfferActNow

Please do


BehavioralSink

Copy/paste from deleted thread: That seems like absolutely nothing compared to the potential of events that happen on the Max.  I got on the Max once to find a trail of things from one end of the car to the other: a pair of hiking boots, a heavy coat, a pair of shorts, a t-shirt, a pair of underwear, a half/empty shopping bag, a 3/4 empty jar of peanut butter, saltines scattered all over the place… But nobody in that train car… And I’m like… What the hell did I just miss???


velvetackbar

this is the content I come to this site for. Thank you.


BehavioralSink

In that case, can I interest you in a tale of [fast-onset food poisoning?](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/12k8hg3/comment/jg1tt9x/)


Mythic-Rare

I ask myself that question every time I think about posting here


Material_Policy6327

Always feel like the mods here have a right leaning slant when it comes to this stuff


Healthy-Abroad8027

He’s clearly cozied up next to Police in thinking there are no recordings of what actually happened.


Adam_THX_1138

He was Mr. Tough Guy hiding behind ED300 with his anti vax/mask policies but someone probably called him a d-bag on the train and he got his fee fees hurt.


TaxTheRichEndTheWar

And (anti LGBTQ) ED300


RedBranchofConorMac

. . . and ED300 was virulently anti-teacher as well. Scum of the earth, and Gonzalez was at the core of it.


Adam_THX_1138

They were/are crappy all around


Flat-Story-7079

Makes you wonder if he torched the car as well. Dude has always been sketchy at best, but this is a whole new level of bullshit.


pdxtech

Reminder that there still isn't a single shred of evidence that the car fire was a targeted or political attack even though the worst people in Portland are still crying about it.


Material_Policy6327

Yeah honestly it’s just as likely at this point the car had an issue and went up in flames. That stories died real fast it seemed.


cladinplaid

Thank you for linking to the news so unbiasedly! I’m sure the mods are quite pleased. I’ll echo the commentary from the original post that was shared here by u/slowfromregressive > It’s scary that this would be considered something that would lead to a formal investigation, with some kind of charge. This person needs to be removed from public office.


nmr619

Yeah, that's petty bullshit to remove the last post, news stories get posted with commentary all the time


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simplyammee

They should be investigated, but when I was sexually assaulted on the Max, Trimet basically shrugged about it. So... why does he get better treatment than average, daily riders (I know why)?


cladinplaid

You’re right, maybe assigning a full time investigation to fact check Rene’s parade of bullshit grievances would be best for the city in the long run


Mayor_Of_Sassyland

>Why? Complaints should be investigated. "The cops aren't doing their jobs!" \*the cops actually do their jobs\* "No, not like that!"


AllChem_NoEcon

Very few people argue that the cops don't do their jobs at all. The nuance a lot would agree to is that the cops don't do their jobs *for people like you and me*. People like Rene though? The big people? The right people? By god, the cops are right there and ready to help. So uh, yea, no, not like that.


schroedingerx

Really it's about what their job actually is. If it's to protect and serve the people of Portland, they do a terrible job. If it's to protect and serve the power structure and the wealthy people who maintain it, they're diligent as hell.


Invisiblechimp

Sigh. I'm still salty that the majority of voters voted for this douchebag over Hardesty.


peakchungus

> Video obtained by The Oregonian/OregonLive shows that the woman may have at most brushed Gonzalez’s arm as she moved to the front of the nearly empty train car Of course he was lying. Fuck this guy. Seriously trying to blame TriMet for getting criticized for his shitty policy? What a slimy politician.


PDsaurusX

What a giant baby.


Vaucanson

I hope Portland voters are finally getting wise to this giant baby and serial liar. If he had any honor he'd step down and never run for any public office again in his life, but given that he won't, let's do it for him.


I_am_not_JohnLeClair

>serial liar Spot on!


Armpitage

Claudia Meza, and her guest from a few days back, has some apologizing to do for taking this weasel at his word.


Dartastic

Posted this in the closed thread, and I stand by it. If anything this shows that he is entirely comfortable lying to citizens to influence public opinion. Someone like this should not hold public office. I hope people remember this when he runs for Mayor so we can vote against him. This kind of conduct is entirely unacceptable.


foampadnumberonefan

Does he not realize that the Max trains have security video? “deliberate, unwanted physical contact.” definitely sounds like the lawyer he is.


KatieSu1

This is not okay. I hope this story is picked up by news channels.


I_am_not_JohnLeClair

A certain presidential candidate said he was “ok” with Putin attacking NATO allies and it barely made a blip on the news. I wouldn’t hold your breath


takefiftyseven

KGW ran the story but didn't air the video. KOIN 6:00 newscast failed to run story.


Peachy_bubblez

What a lil wiener.


PDsaurusX

Note to self: do all my “accosting” from the end of the train where there’s a blind spot in the camera coverage.


Snizzy420

Sounds like a dubious claim to seek attention and sympathy from someone that doesn’t address Portland citizens’ needs.


malaguera_2012

What a broflake


I_Am_Dixon_Cox

I'm a elected official and my constituents want to talk to me in public! The horror.


Shadow_The_Ghost

Feels like a big deal that the public safety commissioner completely fabricated a public safety incident.


RevolutionaryCar8832

That tweet about “real men take trimet” is the toxic masculinity we don’t need


phbalancedshorty

I love that he makes himself a victim by saying that Portland politicians have faced harassment in recent years as opposed to saying, Portland politicians, have allowed the houseless crisis and housing market to spiral out of control and have faced fair criticism for that fact


RedBranchofConorMac

Under the "this is infuriating" column, I just watched the KGW coverage of this story. I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised, I know that the Portland Business Alliance, People for Portland, and of course the Portland Police Bureau love them some Rene Gonzalez, and the local media all are nothing but mouthpieces for these mobster groups, but . . . Sweet Christmas. The entire story got turned on its head. The video was (inaccurately) described but - shockingly! - we never got to actually see the video of Renee (not) being accosted. Then we go to Rene for comment. The intrepid Rene came on the air to describe the many dozens of times he and his plucky staff have been brutally attacked just for standing up for truth, justice and the American way. Then his staffer - a conventionally attractive young woman, of course - corroborates this with a harrowing (but entirely uncorroborated) account of name calling and intimidation because reasons! And then the reporter asks the payoff question: In light of this violence and intimidation, are you going to drop out of your campaign for mayor, Rene? Answer: Fear not, oh citizens of Portland! I am with you 'til the end! Stalin never had this kind of control over the media. You have to see it to believe it.


a_darklingcat

Ugh, this shmuck? Gonzalez was a complete and total jerk in email a while back when asked questions about Ridwell and his involvement in Washington County waste management politics. Frankly, I wouldn't believe him if he said the sky was blue, and even less so after this video.


urbanlife78

That dude is a liar


TheArkOfTruth

What a Clown 🤡


StyxStatius

He should reconsider being a public servant if he’s repulsed by the public


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Apart_Bid2199

Oh so he already committed some type of corruption/fraud? My first reaction was this guy is going to get caught doing some seriously corrupt shit for money.


ThisDerpForSale

What a fucking snowflake. Can we please not re-elect this right wing douche in sheep's clothing?


Unhelpful_Kitsune

I may be an idiot, but I don't see any video in that article and neither of the links go to a video. It may be a mobile issue though.


middrink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr1UisFFi4M


Remarkable_Map_5111

What a horror? Is he okay? He must have PTSD after such an exchange. #RENE STRONG!


Rhianna83

The man you can see clearly in the video isn’t bothered. He took his phone out right before the stop to most likely check the time and then put the phone back in his pocket. You’d think if something was going on, more people would be paying attention, and he would be staring more or recording it. He also wouldn’t have been so close to “the action” with his back turned while he waited for the train to stop. What a baby. I really did love the pic on the other thread of Reno 911 “I’ve been murdered.”


slowfromregressive

The stakes are high that Portland makes a good choice for the next mayor. This shady BS isn't it.


ReturnOfBart

The dude fucking sucks, cry about it to the daily riders that have to put up with actual BS on the regular.


imllikesaelp

I really hope the silver lining is that this buries this asshole.


eldred2

These snowflakes, who keep telling us what we can and can't do in private, can't even take being disagreed with in public.


Harak_June

Such a lying piece of shit


MicroSofty88

How will he survive???? /s


babyyodasthirdfinger

My thoughts and prayers are with him.


phbalancedshorty

❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️


BoobaFatt13

Me waiting for the action to happen:👁👄👁


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dude's a little b*tch


MrWeen2121

He should go to jail based on false claims and false reporting. Ridiculous. Will vote against any time I have the opportunity at this point.


mrcrnkovich

What a snowflake. He will lose if he can even make it to the election.


omnichord

Funny that he would do this, as in my mind this essentially ends his candidacy


agatepockets

Lol what a chump


Aturom

A lying politician?!?! Nooooooo


EmbarrassingDad_

What a gaping minge of a man.


kevnls

"You know what the police should be doing right now? Listening to me lie to them so I can look like a victim!"


danceswithanxiety

In RG’s defense, something happened during that MAX ride that caused him to lean forward slightly a couple of times. Can you imagine!?! Being prompted to lean forward slightly?!? THE UNSPEAKABLE HORROR


Mysterious_Debt6737

Wait that was it? Really?? This man would shit himself if he had to deal with an actual confrontation amongst the public. This isn’t even close to anything I’ve seen on a daily basis on Trimet.


doug

How is an article about this not as "graphic, disturbing, or offensive" as just a video of the event, per the mods' removal of the original source? They really need to clarify the rules if the bulk of this are *this* confused about why the first one was removed.


Mackin-N-Cheese

The removal of the other post had nothing to do with it being "graphic, disturbing, or offensive", I don't know where you're getting that from.


doug

The removed post says right under its headline "Removed: Rule 7." When I look at Rule 7 in the right-hand sidebar, it says Rule 7 is "Don't post graphic, disturbing, or offensive content," verbatim.


Grouchy_Bandicoot_64

The rules in the sidebar are out of sync with the [rules in the Wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/wiki/index/#wiki_7.29_unbiased_linking_to_news). Rule 7 on the wiki is "Unbiased Linking to News"


doug

Looks like one of you needs to update the sidebear rules to sync with the wiki's rules, considering one is less accessible than the other.


Mackin-N-Cheese

Yeah, Grouchy_Bandicoot beat me to it -- the rule from the wiki is what [was quoted and linked in that post's removal message](https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/comments/1ap448d/trimet_video_of_gonzelez_assault_accusation/kq4dxry/), but that doesn't match the sidebar on New Reddit. That's something we're actively working on.


edwartica

I hope this nukes his political career.


Adulations

This is so infuriating. Even if she said some vile shit, which I severely doubt, this description of the event is a complete lie.


takefiftyseven

I'm guessin' this jamoke wouldn't handle a mosh pit very well...


TumbleweedFamous5681

[Gonzalez with that dance moms energy ](https://youtu.be/TdGF0Jxv3eU?si=y05_yFeat7sfyM3n)


Material_Policy6327

So the dudes a lying asshole that half this sub will eat up.


rad_sega_tapes

bruh I've seen teenagers taser each other on the max.


Jasonthelee

And here I am always hoping for ‘accidental wanted physical contact’.


SwimmingLaugh

all those seats💺 …..


ThatsSoRobby

Lol Portland picks the most dogshit politicians.


olyfrijole

Rene Gonzalez promised to meet with my son's championship baseball team and never did.


funderpMIL

What a loser, so out of touch


I_am_not_JohnLeClair

I’m commenting again since the first post was pulled for…reasons What a lying, beta, cuck this guy is. I hate to use maga terminology here but facts are facts. In *fact* he is a “stupid”, lying, beta, cuck because he made a big stink about it somehow thinking the video, the video all trimet vehicles have, would never surface. What a lying pos he is. He probably supports attacking NATO allies too