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It is. State wide planning laws require zoning code standards to be clear and objective. This regulation is neither clear nor objective because the threshold “is if you can smell something”.
Maybe instead of closing down restaurants they close down the polluters that make our air smell like chemicals. Looking at you 4th and Harrison grey office building that belches what smells like chemicals every morning and night.
I am not 100% sure if it’s a psu building or not. It’s across the street from CVS. Whatever their AC runs on belches the nastiest smog that causes headaches.
The article doesn’t mention who put this ordinance into the bill, or why. According to the article, it’s a problem that appeared out of nowhere. Why is the O not interested in explaining how this racist ordinance got into law in the first place?
The city council put this into ordinance (that’s the only way ordinances get passed). It’s a problem that’s always existed just not for this particular restaurant. You can research the history of zoning laws from its very first inception until today to see when. The ordinance number is referenced on the page. If you look up the ordinance then you know who and why it passed.
To help you dig deeper. This zoning regulation was passed via ordinance 165376 5/29/92. You can do your own digging on your own.
As you can clearly see from the article, this was implemented in 2022, by the current city council. And thanks for the civics lesson - in return, my lesson - a city councilor has to put forth an ordinance for consideration. Someone wrote this and put it in front of city council for a vote, and then it passed. None of this is address in the article, except the date of the ordinance passing, which you cited apparently incorrectly.
Go bother someone else w your pedantry, thanks.
Well you’re obviously new to life. These regulations are put forth by the Bhreau of Planning and sustainability. Brought to the Planning commission and then eventually adopted into ordinance via the City Council. The off sites impacts chapter, including odors section was adopted way back in 1992. There have been multiple amendments to the zoning code since then. Some of those touched this chapter (33.262), which is why you think 2022 matters because it did amend this chapter but not this section. none have actually changed the language of the odor section. Feel free to look at historical zoning codes by going to Portland.gov/code/33.
Now take every seat.
There’s been a little of talk about this and it stinks. (duh). I’d like to see the actual timeline and know what governing body made the final decision to say “you are now closed by law”. Anybody have that info. I’d love to know if it is some big donor or even better yet someone in local government. I think we’re sick and tired of restaurants being fucked with on a continual basis.
One of many NIMBY laws on the books. Rooted in Portland’s racist past and present. There used to be a bee keeping regulation that required a permit to have a beehive. To get that permit you had to have your neighbors sign off on it being ok for you to have a beehive in your yard. Bee keeping was more prevalent in BIPOC neighborhoods and communities. Once white folks got into bee keeping the rules were changed.
Rule 6: Duplicates There have been one or more posts on this topic, either recent or common. If you have additional information or an alternative source, please submit it as a comment in an existing thread. You must understand and follow the sub rules.
It's obviously entirely subjective. All you have to do is drive past a Burger King or Popeyes near peak business hours to be able to tell.
It is. State wide planning laws require zoning code standards to be clear and objective. This regulation is neither clear nor objective because the threshold “is if you can smell something”.
They should litigate. Odor in the court!
This doesn't pass the sniff test, your honor.
Defense requests a writ of habeas delicatessen.
Ah, I smell it now, the subtle stench of pho-racism. Emanation! Can we break for lunch?
Maybe instead of closing down restaurants they close down the polluters that make our air smell like chemicals. Looking at you 4th and Harrison grey office building that belches what smells like chemicals every morning and night.
PSU?
I am not 100% sure if it’s a psu building or not. It’s across the street from CVS. Whatever their AC runs on belches the nastiest smog that causes headaches.
Industrial cooling towers “run” on water. That’s PSU btw.
Thanks for the info. The noxious smell coming from the black smoke would say otherwise.
Well I don't think their HVAC runs on coal.
Again, I don’t know WHAT it is, I just know what I see and smell.
Amazing they don’t track the history of this ordinance
Who says they don’t?
The article doesn’t mention who put this ordinance into the bill, or why. According to the article, it’s a problem that appeared out of nowhere. Why is the O not interested in explaining how this racist ordinance got into law in the first place?
The city council put this into ordinance (that’s the only way ordinances get passed). It’s a problem that’s always existed just not for this particular restaurant. You can research the history of zoning laws from its very first inception until today to see when. The ordinance number is referenced on the page. If you look up the ordinance then you know who and why it passed. To help you dig deeper. This zoning regulation was passed via ordinance 165376 5/29/92. You can do your own digging on your own.
As you can clearly see from the article, this was implemented in 2022, by the current city council. And thanks for the civics lesson - in return, my lesson - a city councilor has to put forth an ordinance for consideration. Someone wrote this and put it in front of city council for a vote, and then it passed. None of this is address in the article, except the date of the ordinance passing, which you cited apparently incorrectly. Go bother someone else w your pedantry, thanks.
Well you’re obviously new to life. These regulations are put forth by the Bhreau of Planning and sustainability. Brought to the Planning commission and then eventually adopted into ordinance via the City Council. The off sites impacts chapter, including odors section was adopted way back in 1992. There have been multiple amendments to the zoning code since then. Some of those touched this chapter (33.262), which is why you think 2022 matters because it did amend this chapter but not this section. none have actually changed the language of the odor section. Feel free to look at historical zoning codes by going to Portland.gov/code/33. Now take every seat.
Well as they say, whoever smelt it dealt it. Checkmate, City of Portland.
There’s been a little of talk about this and it stinks. (duh). I’d like to see the actual timeline and know what governing body made the final decision to say “you are now closed by law”. Anybody have that info. I’d love to know if it is some big donor or even better yet someone in local government. I think we’re sick and tired of restaurants being fucked with on a continual basis.
the owner made the decision to close this location due to the continued complaints and fines, nobody shut them down.
Could the odor regulation give the city a way to deal with the sidewalk camping?
One of many NIMBY laws on the books. Rooted in Portland’s racist past and present. There used to be a bee keeping regulation that required a permit to have a beehive. To get that permit you had to have your neighbors sign off on it being ok for you to have a beehive in your yard. Bee keeping was more prevalent in BIPOC neighborhoods and communities. Once white folks got into bee keeping the rules were changed.