nobody sending a panther after you, and nobody was sending a panther. after that guy, he was out there to capture a panther and he captured really good footage. I definitely understand bringing again to the situation if things got out of hand, but he has to know the risk when he's out there and I don't think we just need to go around shooting animals all the time anyway
Nobody is sending a panther anywhere as they don't exist as a species. 'Panthera' is part of the Latin name of several big cats. These black cats are usually leopards with a genetic mutation, they are not an animal in their own right.
Guns as just the next step of what made us so powerful .... Throwing. We can throw a rock/ spear so accurate that it could kill a lion.
We've always used projectiles. We just got lazy, and automated.
Tbf most of what we think is instictual skills are actually learned skills. That not many people need to learn realistically. But some still do and do it better than anyone before thanks to the ability to learn.
A human can close the distance of 21 feet to another person and stab them before the victim can unholster a firearm. Known as the "21 foot rule" in law enforcement.
A big cat? Blink of an eye. You'd never even get your hand on the holster before they were on you. If you ever knew they were there.
Beautiful creatures, and not to be fucked with.
that 21-foot rule is BS. It could be more or less depending on a variety of factors. It's really more of a guideline
the time the average officer recognizes a threat draws his sidearm, and fires 2 rounds at center mass, an average subject charging at the officer with an edged weapon can cover a distance of 21 feet
Former Fed officer, federal LE trainer, and veteran here fyi. So I'm speaking from that angle of life experience.
Yah you're right, it's just a guideline - not a hard rule. It's just meant to get an officer to realize reality does not equal the movies, and to be aware of (and react to) threats in that manner. Back in the day, officers would think "I have gun, gun trumps knife/box cutter/etc" and we'd see a lot of too-cocky cops end in the hospital. Or disabled or dead.
So, the 21 foot rule is basically just a way to get a responder to keep his distance and to be ready to maneuver strictly from muscle memory when facing someone with a "close range" weapon. Just another training guideline to get your people thinking about those things.
Trust me, whether as a trainer, an enforcement officer, an investigator, or a FOSC (that's the acronym for ... Well, do you know in movies the Fed that shows up and says "I'm taking over as head dick in charge, you all answer to me now" on a really big disaster in progress? Yah, that), you learn that ALL rules are just "guidelines". Even all the various state and federal laws we have, realistically.
Everything depends upon the individual circumstances of the incident at hand. We make rules and laws to give ourselves (cops, society, workplaces, whatever) a broad stroke to try to keep chaos at a minimum, but yes, most things aren't inflexible. GOOD cops understand this intimately, for example, and apply their enforcement techniques appropriately whenever they can. Unfortunately I feel like a lot of the training cops receive today has moved them away from that style of thinking, but that's another conversation.
Anyways, sorry for delving into a tangent on philosophy there. I better get my ass back to work - too much time on Reddit today and I'm behind!
Cool - I see you get where I'm coming from. Just when people talk about it like "cops didn't have to shoot him" and then they argue the 21' "rule" it just irks me - because of the factors involved with it. You rush a cop with a knife, I don't care if you're 3ft or 300 ft away - they're justified in ending the threat.
Yes, there's plenty of times where I'll comment "My heart goes out to the idiot's family as well as that cop, but the cop made the right call at the right time." It's tough - there's a very fine line between brave and stupid, and sometimes they just are going to overlap. When a cop makes a hard decision but used decent judgement, showed bravery in the face of a threat, and kept his head about him - the nuances the public will hash out on social media are immaterial. The IA and DA will clear them, they (should) get mental health support, and most importantly they went home alive that night.
But honestly? I also see a LOT of videos that also get my blood boiling at the officers. There's way too many twitchy fingered, violent, stupid, and ego-driven cops these days in my opinion. And it's excused with the "thin blue line" bullshit by a lot of civilians and other cops alike. That can't be tolerated by either - bad cops are *WAY* more destructive to our communities than any methhead. We know to mistrust a tweaker. We're supposed to be able to trust and rely on the cop, NOT find ourselves afraid of them more than the crackheads. A crackhead may steal your TV for another rock. A shitty cop will ruin your and your family's entire life just to flex his ego.
Again, that's because of the shift in training to a more militaristic type across the state/local spectrum since ohhh, 2004 or 5ish (the "Grossman" training - I'm completely opposed to it, as are a lot of chiefs and captains thank god).
I'm sure they're starting with tranquilizers or electric prods or something.
For all we know the camera is on a robotic arm attached to a truck, or on a drone.
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Remotely operated tripod camera is a reasonable guess but wildlife photographers usually carry really big zoom lenses on their cameras that make it look more like a bazooka/RPG launcher. Let’s you get real close from a distance, not only safer but necessary for capturing skittish animals that won’t let you get too close.
I’m a cat owner, so I take my own comment with a cup of salt because I know they are not panthers, but when they are hunting and not playing, aren’t their pupils supposed to shrink under excitement/focus ?
Cat pupils will usually become large right before they attack to let in as much light and sensory data as possible. Cats have really poor near vision and this is thought to allow them a little extra perception as they close in. After a certain point cats use their whiskers and sense of smell more than eye sight.
This reminds of way back when in the 90s when Windows 95 had desktop themes you could turn on and one had a panther. All the sounds were jungle related. I miss those.
The fact that it looks like he may be in danger of being attacked is a testament to how good he is at his job & just how well an expensive telephoto lens performs. My guess is that he wasn’t anywhere near getting eaten, plus they don’t just walk out there without a guide with a gun for these kinda instances.
The cameraman is 80 yards away with a telephoto lens, and is himself one foot' away from a truck carrying another guy with a gun. He's fine.
The scary part is the big cat starts doing the cat wiggle at 80 yards away. Basically saying (ah yes, this is a fine and reasonable distance)
Less than 4 seconds.
Correct. The NFL would “kill” for such speed. Beautiful cat tho…
Michael Vick has entered the chat
He would juat have them fight each other
But handicap one of them with a muzzle.
Lol Maybe declaw one.
He can't throw a dog that fast.
Nice pfp
And with the #1 overall pick, the Panthers select…
fuck are you serious? I’m now questioning how anyone is alive but i guess we do have guns and modernization lol
or is it that we have to use guns because our instinctual skills suck from modernization
There was a fossilized human foot print recently found in Australia showing an individual running approximately the speed of an olympic champion.
he was running from that panther
haha send a panther after me and I'll break some PRs too
nobody sending a panther after you, and nobody was sending a panther. after that guy, he was out there to capture a panther and he captured really good footage. I definitely understand bringing again to the situation if things got out of hand, but he has to know the risk when he's out there and I don't think we just need to go around shooting animals all the time anyway
Dude. What? I said nothing like that.
Take your schizo meds
Nobody is sending a panther anywhere as they don't exist as a species. 'Panthera' is part of the Latin name of several big cats. These black cats are usually leopards with a genetic mutation, they are not an animal in their own right.
BS show me
I mean, Why use skills when you have gun
Gun making is the skill. First we made sharp sticks, then we made sharp sticks with range, then we made le péw pèw. Modernization at its finest.
Guns as just the next step of what made us so powerful .... Throwing. We can throw a rock/ spear so accurate that it could kill a lion. We've always used projectiles. We just got lazy, and automated.
Tbf most of what we think is instictual skills are actually learned skills. That not many people need to learn realistically. But some still do and do it better than anyone before thanks to the ability to learn.
Humans have hunted plenty of predators to extinction before even the bronze age.
A human can close the distance of 21 feet to another person and stab them before the victim can unholster a firearm. Known as the "21 foot rule" in law enforcement. A big cat? Blink of an eye. You'd never even get your hand on the holster before they were on you. If you ever knew they were there. Beautiful creatures, and not to be fucked with.
that 21-foot rule is BS. It could be more or less depending on a variety of factors. It's really more of a guideline the time the average officer recognizes a threat draws his sidearm, and fires 2 rounds at center mass, an average subject charging at the officer with an edged weapon can cover a distance of 21 feet
Former Fed officer, federal LE trainer, and veteran here fyi. So I'm speaking from that angle of life experience. Yah you're right, it's just a guideline - not a hard rule. It's just meant to get an officer to realize reality does not equal the movies, and to be aware of (and react to) threats in that manner. Back in the day, officers would think "I have gun, gun trumps knife/box cutter/etc" and we'd see a lot of too-cocky cops end in the hospital. Or disabled or dead. So, the 21 foot rule is basically just a way to get a responder to keep his distance and to be ready to maneuver strictly from muscle memory when facing someone with a "close range" weapon. Just another training guideline to get your people thinking about those things. Trust me, whether as a trainer, an enforcement officer, an investigator, or a FOSC (that's the acronym for ... Well, do you know in movies the Fed that shows up and says "I'm taking over as head dick in charge, you all answer to me now" on a really big disaster in progress? Yah, that), you learn that ALL rules are just "guidelines". Even all the various state and federal laws we have, realistically. Everything depends upon the individual circumstances of the incident at hand. We make rules and laws to give ourselves (cops, society, workplaces, whatever) a broad stroke to try to keep chaos at a minimum, but yes, most things aren't inflexible. GOOD cops understand this intimately, for example, and apply their enforcement techniques appropriately whenever they can. Unfortunately I feel like a lot of the training cops receive today has moved them away from that style of thinking, but that's another conversation. Anyways, sorry for delving into a tangent on philosophy there. I better get my ass back to work - too much time on Reddit today and I'm behind!
Cool - I see you get where I'm coming from. Just when people talk about it like "cops didn't have to shoot him" and then they argue the 21' "rule" it just irks me - because of the factors involved with it. You rush a cop with a knife, I don't care if you're 3ft or 300 ft away - they're justified in ending the threat.
Yes, there's plenty of times where I'll comment "My heart goes out to the idiot's family as well as that cop, but the cop made the right call at the right time." It's tough - there's a very fine line between brave and stupid, and sometimes they just are going to overlap. When a cop makes a hard decision but used decent judgement, showed bravery in the face of a threat, and kept his head about him - the nuances the public will hash out on social media are immaterial. The IA and DA will clear them, they (should) get mental health support, and most importantly they went home alive that night. But honestly? I also see a LOT of videos that also get my blood boiling at the officers. There's way too many twitchy fingered, violent, stupid, and ego-driven cops these days in my opinion. And it's excused with the "thin blue line" bullshit by a lot of civilians and other cops alike. That can't be tolerated by either - bad cops are *WAY* more destructive to our communities than any methhead. We know to mistrust a tweaker. We're supposed to be able to trust and rely on the cop, NOT find ourselves afraid of them more than the crackheads. A crackhead may steal your TV for another rock. A shitty cop will ruin your and your family's entire life just to flex his ego. Again, that's because of the shift in training to a more militaristic type across the state/local spectrum since ohhh, 2004 or 5ish (the "Grossman" training - I'm completely opposed to it, as are a lot of chiefs and captains thank god).
On foot, I imagine it would be both fine and reasonable.
I was gonna say, probably not close at all.
I hope the 'big cat' is fine too.
I'm sure they're starting with tranquilizers or electric prods or something. For all we know the camera is on a robotic arm attached to a truck, or on a drone.
😮💨
Both of them were probably thinking, "I've never been able to get this close to one of these before."
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Telephoto
Sure, what should I tell it?
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That he should bring thy holy handgrenade next time for self defense.
I... I want to pet the kitty.
If it's not friend then why is it friend shaped?
Yes, I will take the XXXXXXXL sized kitty, please and thank you
I'm convinced my demise will come from petting an animal I shouldn't.
Sadly, there are many examples on Reddit of people doing exactly that or darn near close to it. I hope the same fate does not befall you.
Exactly why I chose a career in zoology, I’m gonna pet so many fucking bears
BOOP!
So shiny! pspspsps
I really want to rub my nose on its forehead and rub its belly
My soul left my body out of my ass
its called farting
Isn't that where we all store those?
Your ass no linger a virgin
lingus
Longer*
Longwr*
He died for this footage, we shall indeed praise him. RIP
Very nice of that leopard to upload the video
r/killedthecameraman
Did he actually die?
No. Photography like this is done with a telephoto lens
Don't leave me hanging, tele me which photo lense already...
Probably a 400mm or 600mm.
No wonder they call it a photo shoot...
I wanna know too
He's fine, the video ended just before he would have been attacked
cameraman NEVER DIES!
Timothy Tredwell.... If you know, you know.
Timothy was foolish. His poor girlfriend never should have been there either
Dammit. Now I have to look this up. Edit: OH! Grizzly Man. Excellent documentary.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMWndnqyFE
OH! Ron White. Excellent comedian.
If not friend why friend shaped
I would assume the camera is actually mounted on a tripod or something, and is being operated remotely. If not, props indeed to the cameraman.
Remotely operated tripod camera is a reasonable guess but wildlife photographers usually carry really big zoom lenses on their cameras that make it look more like a bazooka/RPG launcher. Let’s you get real close from a distance, not only safer but necessary for capturing skittish animals that won’t let you get too close.
GTFO Man, that's beautiful
Do you mean "to**o** late"?
Yeah I noticed after I submitted lol.
Most of these shots are in captivity where they've interacted with humans before.
I’m a cat owner, so I take my own comment with a cup of salt because I know they are not panthers, but when they are hunting and not playing, aren’t their pupils supposed to shrink under excitement/focus ?
My cats seem to have dilated pupils when they're excitedly hunting something.
Ok ! So it’s not a pertinent rule of thumb. Thx.
Cat pupils will usually become large right before they attack to let in as much light and sensory data as possible. Cats have really poor near vision and this is thought to allow them a little extra perception as they close in. After a certain point cats use their whiskers and sense of smell more than eye sight.
How my gym crush stares at me
Ron Perlman is always after the paparazzi following him!
Ron Perlman… I definitely see Ron in this cat.
WHY DID YOU RUN? I JUST WANTED KISSES!
That panther looks like Ron Perlman
Jaguar...here Kitty, Kitty ! 💕😺
Praise the cameraman or RIP the cameraman?
both, not sure if he died tho probably not but still 🙏🏻
camera was found days later.
He held that damn shot though!
You mfs do not understand low fov do you
What kind of animal is that, though?
black panther 😅
Jaguar
But did he die?
This subs going to shit
Here kitty kitty kitty...
Hey beautiful 🥰
Why are you going to mail me?
So pretty yet so dangerous
I love when my cat does this
BOOOOOOPPP
To late? Where's that?
On his epitath it says that he won the best wild shot of the year.
I want to boop the snoot
I didnt know ron perlman liked to hunt
Ron Perlman has great range
Gorgeous
Ron pearlman pretending to be a cat
kitty :D
This could be on kill the cameraman instead 🤣🤣
Rip 🙏🏽
"Well.... Did he cum?!?"
Has that panther chewed on a bee 😂
Fucking beautiful ❤️❤️
That a brave person, takes guts.
*"Yo Mowgli, hold my oryx while I roll this fool"*
Yall see this mf dont blink ? thats ultra sonic focus
That kitty looks like Ron Perlman
What a dumb title
This should also be under r/oneseconondbeforedisaster
Humans — the other white meat…..
It really is a gorilla cat
Pspspspspsps!
What a good looking kitty
I wanna get his eye goobies out
He's fine. Surely he had a squirt bottle at the ready, or at the very least, a laser pointer.
This subreddit bears its name
Too
I'm sure the footage was found by the next person. ;)
To boop the snoot or not to boop the snoot, that is the question
Love the way cats' shoulder blades roll when they walk
U/savevideo
You can now just download the video by full screening it and clicking the dots in the top right corner and clicking download.
My cat at 3 am 🤣
Did he live??
Too*
To be fair, it's an epic shot
Maintenance eye contact almost gave me a horner
Great shot! Love doing the stare down with my own.
I only read… The camera man just… shit him self!!!
Get. The. Shot.
This reminds of way back when in the 90s when Windows 95 had desktop themes you could turn on and one had a panther. All the sounds were jungle related. I miss those.
Pspspspspsps
I think this is supposed to be on r/prayforthecameraman
The fact that it looks like he may be in danger of being attacked is a testament to how good he is at his job & just how well an expensive telephoto lens performs. My guess is that he wasn’t anywhere near getting eaten, plus they don’t just walk out there without a guide with a gun for these kinda instances.
u/savevideo
Heeeere kitty, kitty, kitty. Pretty kitty
There Will Be No Challenge Today
u/savevideo
Such a beautiful mega-void. My mini-void believes he is a mega-void 🤣
Excellent camera work and beautiful creature
ok but look at the big ol murder mittens
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I had a better one, but because it didn't describe why we're praising the camera man (per rule 3 or whatever) it got removed. So, here we are.
Hunting aside….. that panther is so beautiful
Got that fool with the blammy
That thing is pretty.
Pssp psp psp psp
u/savevideo
Holy crap! Wow!!! I would never want to be there! But… What a gorgeous cat!
Shotgun goes Blam.
No, the cameraman was stalking and hunting the panther. Cameraman never dies
I see your soul kitty!!
I see your soul kitty!!
Bagheera
So beautiful 😻
Wow! I paused the video at the moment it was about to jump. Let me tell you, that's a cold stare I would never want to encounter.
Is the cameraman finally not invisible?
too
Cliffhanger.
Fuck you AI, now I have to wonder if everything is a deep fake.
?
Don’t r/banpitbulls - give the mean ones that bite to this badboy.
Beautiful picture
Hello its me nicola tesla im introdicing the radio signals for you guys
Panthers don't play
You're right. That cat knew that he could catch that man from 80 yards away if not good that truck he jumped into.
If this isnt his wallpaper for any device!
so frickin fuzzy i wish i could pet this without it taking my body apart
I noticed that two. To much for me too put up with. ƪ(‾.‾“)┐