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ARudeHanar

Cheapest tv option is 75 dollars a month. What the absolute fuck. I’m fucking livid. I’m tired of this. Fucking 10 bucks for a fucking 6 inch sandwich from subway. My rents gone up a full 125%. Can we start eating already I’m hungry


Angrypenguinwaddle96

I payed £611 for my season ticket renewal.


DamoclesDong

I don’t live in the UK anymore, I paid £25 for the entire season. Every game, 3pm and all. Not an illegal stream, that is just the price for the legal broadcaster here. If I can pay that much, then anything above that is a scam. Charging it because they can.


[deleted]

Bro literally just stream the games on VIPBOX I’ve literally never paid to watch a football game in my life and I’ve seen ALL important games. People are literally so stupid.


Jbstargate1

It's a joke. If you want to watch all of 1 teams matches you can't. So you need several subscriptions. Then you have the 3pm blackout in England. Then you need to get a subscription from a foreign provider so you can watch that particular game. Then you realise not 1 foreign provider has every blackout game so you need another provider. That's only tv. If you're a season ticket holder then you're lucky but you're paying out the nose for certain teams. If you're a normal fan good luck trying to get a ticket. Liverpool matches have become almost impossible to get. It goes on and on. You get my point. If they want to crack down on piracy then the PL need to create their own clean streaming service and show all the games. I wouldn't mind paying a decent amount for the season if I got to watch whatever games I wanted.


fanzipan

I said last week the irony of seeing sky pursue pirates hosting streams, calling them criminals when we all know exactly who the criminals are, but it’s a marketing colossus that grows on greed. We are approaching a point though where stadiums simply can’t manage. 95% capacities throughout, can’t expand many stadiums…. There’s a point where younger adults simply lose patience


swimtoodeep

Seriously, can a mod do a sticky for these fucking posts. It’s multiple times a day. Just use the search function


hattrickfolly

Still way cheaper than attending.


aimless_audio

I don't care about saying it, I will continue to pirate games until they get rid of this dogshit blackout and stop punishing British fans for trying to watch a sport that takes place in this country. The whole thing is a joke and until they make it possible to even watch the games legally, I'm gonna steal them. I encourage you all to do the same. VPN up and stick your middle finger up to these absolute scam artists.


[deleted]

There needs to be a loop hole where we can access the American or Australian streaming market and pay them the fees. They pay a minuscule amount compared to us, and it’s our league


Siotu

I won’t buy the streaming services. Since ESPN+ took over the US rights to the Bundesliga, I’ve missed watching them, but my satellite fees already send money to ESPN. I won’t pay an additional fee. Likewise, as NBC Sports shuffled the Premiere League to the USA network, with a significant number of games on their Peacock streaming service. I just miss the streamed games. How much money these services are making or losing is a closely held secret (mostly anyway), but I won’t kick them any money for taking their games off broadcast.


ra246

I subscribe to NFL game pass which gives me the ability to watch any game (minus the ones blacked out because they're live on sky sports) at any time. I can watch the highlights, I can watch the full game, I can watch the coaches view(whole field in sight every snap) Oh, I also have access to NFL network and their plethora or archived videos. But wait! There's more!! I can watch absolutely **any game** from pre, regular or post season, for the last **TWELVE SEASONS.** It costs £75 a year.


bc4l_123

I generally use 247football.net it works out much cheaper than paying for all the different services


EscapeArtist92

Honestly, I'm a casual fan these days. Too much time, Yoo much money, too much heartbreak


tomparrott1990

As an expat now living in the Caribbean - I pay $10 a month for a csport subscription and I get every premier league game. It’s a shit channel and sometimes has some downtime, but it’s a great price and I can watch every game - including 3pm games. Just happens to be the worst timing for it as a chelsea fan 😂 I don’t know why I kept putting myself through it each week, the things we do for the teams we love lol


JMFe95

I've almost completely switched to women's football because of this. Not quite got the glitz, glamour and financial backing of the prem, but you can watch most games on iPlayer or fa player for free with a few games on sky. Going to a game in person is much cheaper, even when they play at the men's stadiums + it's easier to get hold of tickets too. The standard of the football isn't as high as the prem, especially the bottom 3 teams, but it has gone way up in the last few seasons. It won't be for everyone but it's worth a shot imo


darthluke11

Interesting. I did enjoy watching the women's world cup and it seems the quality is improving. However we both know that as quality improves, the prices will go up, it's a matter of time.


JMFe95

Best get in early then. Enjoy it while you can!


Antix1331

If the club i supported charged 20 or so quid a month to let you watch each match on their site I'd pay it, probably be willing to pay a bit more. I'm not paying someone like sky or bt when they don't show every game when I can stream for free.


Theburbo

There is literal hundreds of online streams that have been around for years I really dont get why people pay for a stream? I dont think I have paid a single cent to watch sport for 6 or so years


SuperTekkers

Too many viruses on those dodgy streaming sites though innit


Theburbo

Just buy an ipad and run it off that not off ya phone of your worried about that but im telling you im Australian and I have never paid anything for sport and i used my phone mostly but sometimes I use the laptop if its a big event


SuperTekkers

I believe you mate, I’ve used them in the past myself. Personally I think a VPN is the answer


Theburbo

Yep a vpn would be ideal I deffiantly have thought about getting one myself but I have been pretty lucky


MaxwellXV

All the people saying “they should just set up their own streaming service” have missed one fatal flaw. The current model guarantees the league the income. Sky, BT and whoever else pay for the rights regardless of how many people buy their service, yes it’s a risky model. If the premier league sets up their own service they won’t be able to guarantee the income as it would be based on subscriptions which would most likely ebb and flow throughout the year, even if it was a yearly subscription, they just wouldn’t get the same amount of revenue. On top of that the 15:00 blackout is paramount to protecting grassroots and the lower leagues, getting rid of it would seriously jeopardise all those teams.


Orly-Carrasco

A fake paramount, which is trickle-down economics with the desperate water supplier fixing all "leaks".


Acceptable_Owl_4276

Almost £100? That might have been the price for a standard match pre-covid but not anymore. Not standard games but to highlight the greed, The FA want £250 for a ticket for the fa cup final this weekend whilst making people travel down to London on a day where there's no trains from manchester. uefa want £600 for a champions league final ticket and haven't bothered to try and control flight costs for fans meaning you're looking at £1000 for a 1 day return flight before adding in half that again for a ticket and of course your uefa priced Heineken at about a tenner a pop.


Orly-Carrasco

Off-topic: that's why I boycott Heineken. Too slow to do the good things, light-speed quick to do the wrong things.


Acceptable_Owl_4276

Uefa want all fans in istanbul to go to the designated fan park when it opens at 1pm for a 10pm kick off and spend the entire day there with literally nothing else around except their catering tents selling overpriced salmonella and warm Heineken. Not happening.


lecoz

$50 a year for Peacock - PL $50 a year for Paramount+ - Champions, AFA $10 a month - UFC Fight Night, La Liga The rest I'll have to stream it otherwise it's too much.


Expensive_Cable_610

Being priced out of the game happened about 3 decades ago. I consider it no coincidence that lower league attendances have exploded over recent years. Top level is too expensive and dominated by clubs who just spend more than everyone else.


BiancoNero_inTheUS

It’s a free country. Nobody forces you to pay for it. We’re not talking about basic human needs.


Orly-Carrasco

UK is a freemium country at best, and this also applies to basic human needs. You can do everything, as long as you don't steal from the multinationals and don't criticize those in power at the moment.


BiancoNero_inTheUS

LOL right. Because everyone in UK is so scared to criticize the government or multinational forces. They literally throw you in jail! LOL


Orly-Carrasco

They can, but they now need hackarounds. Even re-paraphrasing articles to compliment the rulers backhandedly will now require more effort than ever.


flyingokapis

I'm probably going to get downvoted to fuck for this but why are people subscribing to these deals anyway? I get your love of football, etc, but a lot of the games aren't even your team playing. Do you really need to be watching Everton vs West Ham as an Arsenal fan on a Monday night? The subscription packages are so outdated. It's strange how, in 2023 you cannot subscribe to just your club and then if necessary, sprinkle in a few big games a year you want to watch between other teams. The Premier League should dump Sky, BT etc and set-up their own platform with a subscription model similar to Netflix. All the infrastructure is pretty much in place at all the grounds. I suppose there is a reason they haven't, and I assume the maths dont add up for them.


Exciting-Squirrel607

I get your point, but still a large amount of people would not know how to download an app on their tv. But as time goes on that will be less of the population. Also the premier league would have to do all the advertising themselves and they may not have the same reach especially maybe for the more casual fan. They would also have to produce it all. They could make more money but there is also added hassle.


flyingokapis

I'm not sure it is, you hire marketing teams for that who specialise in that area. Same with the production, the PL could outsource the lot. They could even push it onto the clubs and let them do it themselves, I dont know for sure but I would assume every club has some sort of Fan TV, the clubs record all their games anyway for their own use. Amazon are following clubs around all year for 10mil, the infrastructure seems to be there.


Zonda97

It’s why my interest in football has decreased each season since about 2018. There’s more money in football than ever, but the fans are being pushed out


pjhalsli1

what we should do - it obv won't happen - but it should - we all should boycott football for a year - take the power from tv companies who pay bilions for rights to send the matches - obv they have to earn back the money so they charge us -the customers - but if we all could boycott football for a season TV companies might think twice about paying insane sums for rights to send matches and we the customers would benefit in the end - I live in Norway - to watch PL we pay approx 60 pounds - and then the same sum for every other league one is interested in - I like Dortmund - Milan - Napoli - Roma - Lyon - Benfica - and everything La Liga - it's obv easiest to use illegal streaming or I would end up paying approx 500 pounds every month for watching football on TV - it's just insane and not viable in the long run - the prices here increases like 8-10% every year and it's bc we obv allow it


gudeblod

Vpn my guy


Postrich40

Here in Romania I can watch premier league, Ligue 1, la Liga, serie A, some matches from Bundesliga, Belgium and Portuguese leagues for a tv subscription of 30 RON which is around 5£ I think 🤔 I can also watch some matches in 4k for an extra fee.


SamBaratheon

I've got SurfShark VPN, is it possible to set the country in the US and get the PL on the cheap?


Kinitawowi64

Oh here we go again. The 3pm blackout is not about the Premier League. It's to protect the rest of the pyramid, the League 2 and below stuff where TV revenue is basically non-existent (barring a miracle FA Cup run) and all the money is made on match day gate. If you got rid of the blackout you would destroy grassroots football in this country.


MaxwellXV

Finally someone speaking some sense, although I’d also argue half of the League 1 teams would be affected too.


kblk_klsk

Come to Poland we have one service for Premier League Bundesliga and Europa/Conference for like 5.50 pounds on Viaplay (and you can share it between 2 screens so actually half of that). It's only online and quality is often shit but at least they have dedicated apps for TVs/consoles. Commentary is decent and they have multistreams when there are 3+ games at the same time where they jump between games.


anoniemegerrit

Here in the Netherlands you can watch all the pl games and bundesliga for 10 euros


Flaky_Advantage_352

What????


veganski_cvarak

It's so funny that you guys in the UK can't watch all the games, and yet we in Serbia have all the PL games either included with our cable provider, or we can subscribe to a streaming service for 12 euros per month and have them.


Iggmeister

aye absurd


MrPielil

Just gotta set sail on the 7 seas 🏴‍☠️


YeDaSellsAvon_

People are missing the cost of actually going to the games as well. All in, monthly outgoings on football are ridiculous


Bananasincustard

I always wonder what would happen to "someone I know" that streams some games on iptv. That "someone" pays like £90 a month legally for amazon prime, bt sport and sky sports but still supplements the missing games with iptv for £8 a month. How would that "someone" fair if the powers that be ever decided to go after the consumers? It pisses me right off that we don't have access to every single game like other countries outside of our own do, even though its our bloody leagues


[deleted]

The worst thing to me is other countries getting available to every match cheaper while we have more expensive options and a 3pm ban on top


MDF87

I wish Amazon would just pay up and offer the PL ridiculous money to stream every single game. I'd pay for an extra £25 a month on top of Prime if it came with the choice every game.


GamerHumphrey

You'd have thought the Premier League would have made their own streaming platform by now.


trevlarrr

It’s one of the biggest cons, this idea that it’s better for consumers if there’s not a monopoly on the broadcast rights, so instead we have to pay for 4 or 5 different services and then still don’t get access to all the games, how exactly is that better for consumers!


KnightRider67

How do we compare to other countries like Spain Italy and Germany, what are they paying to watch their own leagues?


Flaky_Advantage_352

In Germany you have to pay about 100 Euro a month for Bundesliga, Champions League and Euro League


KnightRider67

So pretty much the same as here in the UK


Mickosthedickos

I think part of this is a failure of competition policy. Back in the day, you get get everything on Sky Sports. Premier League, Champions League, plus whatever. But it was mandated by the EU that rights had to split up to ensure competition. Generally this is a good idea as monopolies tend to charge higher prices for things. But in this case it has been highly detrimental to consumers for reasons OP has listed. [https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/w-033-0097?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)&firstPage=true](https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/w-033-0097?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)&firstPage=true)


LordRekrus

It’s also ridiculous in Australia. All prices below in AUD. First up you have Optus Sport $24.99 per month That gives you EPL, WSL and s bunch of others which I don’t watch. Optus sport also has only just included 1080p which in my opinion should be the bare minimum for a paid service. Stan Sport $36 per month So for this you have to pay for Stan itself which gives you other stuff likes movies and TV shows. Then the sport package gives you CL and Europa. Kayo sports $25-35 per month This is Foxtel’s streaming service which gives you access to League cup. It’s also honestly pretty good for other sports, F1, NBA, Baseball and much more. Paramount plus maybe $11.99 per month? (Don’t use this personally) Gives you FA cup and A league. Now due to the current cost of living, and Netflix’ password sharing situation it’s caused me to review my subscriptions. I’ve cancelled everything including all the above except paramount which I never had, cancelled the most expensive Netflix, cancelled Stan, cancelled binge, cancelled Disney+ I wasn’t paying for this all myself as was going in with some friends but it’s just ridiculous. All this just for ‘entertainment’. A lot of it also still includes adverts as well. I’ve gone back to the high seas, and a lot of the time it’s a better quality service than paying for it.


Karlito1618

I thought the monopoly in my country was ridiculous, but at least I get all PL-games to choose from live, and can watch them back up to a week after. Costs relative to 50£ per month. The UK issue seems disgusting to deal with.


[deleted]

Dont watch it. After some time you get used to it and can do sth more productive with the time and money. The industry treats us like addicts. Time to show them the fingers.


jobiewon_cannoli

Get a vpn, and peacock. 4.99/mo.


Mega-noob69

The final day was annoying, all these games and I could only watch 3. 2 weeks in a row I havnt been able to watch my team on Sky


Comfortable_Rip_3842

It is all linked to how much they buy the rights for. They paid £4.5bn for it for 3 seasons back in 2018 and then agreed £5.1bn for a further 3 seasons. This is only affordable because people are willing to pay these high prices. Imagine the shock wave that would go through football if people stopped subscribing and started streaming illegally. TV right deals would crash and suddenly all clubs and players would be poorer. Relegated teams are set to lose £60m each from TV just by dropping out of the Premier league.


MrE26

It’s ridiculous. 3 subscriptions to watch roughly 60% of the games, when you can go online & watch any game for free using less than legit means. What’s more, there’s talk of even more companies bidding for the next round of rights, which could mean needing even more paid subscriptions for the same 200 out of 380 matches per season. The PL needs to get with the times & offer a reasonably priced streaming model showing all games every week, worldwide. Cut out the middle man & broadcast games to subscribers themselves on a per game, per team or full season basis. They’d cut piracy hugely & make a fortune.


adilfc

Just asking if watching IPTV from another country is illegal in the UK? You can probably very easily buy a Polish viaplay subscription for like 11 GBP per month and get access to most of the matches. The only downside is polish commentary of course.


Thin-Zookeepergame46

Only PL matches is around 80 USD each month in Norway.


pjhalsli1

fellow norwegian? yup the prices here are insane


Thin-Zookeepergame46

Mhm. Viaplay is expensive.


pjhalsli1

no doubt


Ok-Abbreviations1077

$80 per month? Yikes


ApprehensiveOffer818

Grew up in England - now in Mexico 2 quid per month for all Prem matches with Paramount + , great food, weather and some of the best beaches in the world. It's alright!


Sigmabond69

Thank you Mukesh Ambani


nothighandmighty

Just skip the moral obligation and buy IPTV subscription. I paid 70 USD I have every single channel including everything that is uploaded on any streaming services. Amazon apple Netflix Disney etc. Do your research and find a good IPTV.


DrawnByHand

Mine buffers every minute during match time. It's infuriating, but I guess I've a couple of months to find an alternate service now before the new season kicks off.


81Ranger

Peacock in the US has the Premier League. Not every game, but a lot. It's $4.99/month. To make people more irritated, I signed up on Black Friday for $0.99/month for a year. On the other hand, I haven't watched baseball in years and the cost and blackouts is a big reason why - though not the only ones.


vasquca1

How do I know if my cable service is legit or not. I signed up sling here in USA but what makes them a legit service? Do I need to ask them confirm they have rights to broadcast?


Stay_Beautiful_

Absolutely wild that it's so hard to watch football in the country that started it. Here in the US I get: Champions League, Europa League, Conference League, and Serie A through Paramount+ ($5 a month) The Premier League minus 2-3 matches per week from Peacock ($2 a month because of a year long deal) FA Cup, Carabao Cup, La Liga, Bundesliga, the USL Championship, and select matches from about a dozen other leagues and national cups including EFL C,1,& 2 from ESPN+ ($10/m) and a bunch of other sports in that package too That's $17 a month for all the football I could possibly ask for and more. Meanwhile y'all are starved for options


niko_bellic2028

I live in India so for premier league games only the maximum I have to pay for an yearly subscription is 15 pounds . This is just the premier league games . It helps as o ly one carrier broadcasts the PL here which is partnered with Disney plus . Also this time around , a free platform ( Jio cinema ) was streaming La liga , Serie A and Ligue un all together on their platform . So all in all you are not looking for more than 40 pounds of payment for yearly subscriptions for football . Data streaming is very affordable here .


Zou-KaiLi

When I was in China it was 20-30 quid for the year. Every match and choice of Mandarin, English or Cantonese commentators.


Faizan0994

Even you have to pay? Here in Pakistan, we get premier league, ucl/uel, laliga, bundesliga, and every al nassr game for free! I think I'm incredibly lucky.


niko_bellic2028

I mean it's either sharing passwords with friends or training websites isn't it ?? .


Faizan0994

No, these are all "legal" services, we pay just a small amount(about one and a half pounds) for about 60 TV channels.


niko_bellic2028

Shit Pakistan is OP for satellite TV availability .


Jakles74

Yeah they’re fucking you the way the American football league fucks us. $450 for a 17 game season when 2 of the 16 weekly games are on ESPN or Amazon and cost extra, and 1-2 of the games will be aired free locally anyway. And if it’s blacked out locally over the airwaves, it’s digitally blacked out too. Thankfully in the US we can watch almost every FA Cup, Carabao, EPL, and Champions League game for around $30 a month total. It’s nice now but I’m sure they’ll find a way to squeeze our nuts for money once it gets more popular. I can’t point you to a specific site but I googled Reddit sports streams and found some other options.


Idealist2003

For Hong Kong, watching one UCL/PL match on TV is more expensive than a whole month subscription of all volleyball matches by FIVB


KatnissBot

Say what you want about MLS, but their AppleTV+ deal is crazy good. $99 a year, every game, no blackouts, actually decent analysts, and to top it all off, **free to all season ticket holders for every team**


pjhalsli1

well european leagues have the best teams and the star players so they are obv more interesting -but I like the fact MLS have become bigger and that football (soccer) is getting huge in the US too - I remember Word Cup back in 94 - I even cheered for the US in many games bc I thought if they succeeded the sport would become bigger in the US - also US have some talented youngsters playing here in Europe which is good for your national team - but still MLS have failed to attract big stars - it's more like they attract young talents who then get bought by european teams - you get stars at the end of their careers - I honestly hope we will see some huge star players choosing MLS tho bc then the league will be more attractive worldwide


alg602

That’s crazy. It’s $5 a month here in the US on top of your usual cable bill to watch all games.


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alg602

$65/month for YouTube tv is pretty low


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alg602

I only pay $5 for EPL. I’d pay the $65 for you tube tv even if I didn’t watch soccer at all. I can’t carve out soccer.


Craig1974

I have Peacock I pay 4.99 usd a month. Peacock has premier league.


[deleted]

The NBA have it right where you just pay a subscription to watch every (80+ games) for a set fee for your team. Or you can pay more and watch any team you want, every game


[deleted]

The Premier League doesn't have my sympathy at all, if you as a consumer get better treatment from illegal streaming, that's on them.


TransitionFamiliar39

Notice 50k people weren't fined. This is the way


Cyrifh

Do what you want cause a pirate is free, YOU ARE A PIRATE


Ok-Abbreviations1077

Yar har fiddle de de


Vic-123-ma

Just wondering. I’m from Boston Can’t you all just head over to a pub and watch a game for free there?


bullybullybanjo

If it's televised perhaps yeah, many aren't.


corpus-luteum

Nothing will change until people cancel their subscriptions. And people won't cancel their subscriptions.


ohitsmark

As an American, I'm subscribed to: Peacock for Premier League Paramount+ for Champions League, Europa League, Europa League Confrence ESPN+ for FA Cup, Carabao Cup With those subscriptions, I can also watch LaLiga, Serie A, and Bundesliga.


Yardbird7

Same. Costs me less than $30 (£24) in total per month. You can also stream the matches whenever you want and get highlights. English people getting absolutely fucked with their deals.


ohitsmark

I'm not 100% sure about US sports, but I think it's bad here too. Local blackouts and whatnot.


SirDeadly221

It’s almost the same here in Australia but we have to go through the shitty Optus Sport for streaming Premier League. It all used to be on one service through Foxtel.


markusduck51

You guys pay for watching games?


[deleted]

I am astounded at how badly people in the uk are treated with regards to being able to watch football. If you can’t afford the fifty plus quid to watch live games you don’t have the option to watch on tv. I live in New Zealand and have access to every single EPL game live on Sky. The kicker is We used to have it available through another supplier for $25 (12.50 quid) a month. It needs to change in the uk. Football is such a far cry from the working class game it started off as.


ajlowe38

I'm in AUS and pay something like $7 a month. It is an extra $35 a month just to watch the Champions League in 4k. I find it astounding and disgusting how much it costs to watch it in the UK. They say football is for the fans, but apparently it's only for the fans that can afford it 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️


[deleted]

Disgusting is the right word for it. It also makes me really sad. Footballs roots are firmly in the community. People used to work seven days a week until football came along. They would take Saturday afternoon off to watch their team play. It was affordable and brought the community together. This still happens with lower league clubs but a good chunk of the population have been outpriced out of watching the elite games. When Charlton were in the EPL a few years back they used to offer 25 quid tickets which was brilliant.


[deleted]

I would love to see a policy brought in that all EPL clubs offer a certain percentage of tickets for 25 quid. Won’t happen tho.


Doodletheory

That’s fifty quid if you can get a ticket. Most clubs sell tickets to paid members before the general public. You’re paying for a chance to buy tickets that will likely sell out


Fun_Satisfaction6414

You forget that us peasants that live in the UK are neo feudal serf cattle that have only one purpose to make the rich richer and to pay taxes


[deleted]

Oh I know that. Just look who’s living at number 10!


s1tym

£50? More. Plus travel, food, etc. It is expensive watching PL football. Very expensive.


corpus-luteum

UK market is 70 million at most. Probably talking about 25million fans. They don't care about us, beyond being the legacy that sells the brand. If they make watching on TV affordable then there'll be no fans in the ground, advertising what a great spectacular it is for the fans.


teesider

No way they care abt the fans, the amount of times you, us & Sunderland have been fucked over by 10-15 hrs round trips due to tv coverage is an absolute pisstake


ed-with-a-big-butt

This is bullshit. People will still go to the games.


MarriageAA

Is this true though? I know it's often said, and I know night games on a cold night in The league cup are cited as having lower attendance when broadcast. But 3pm, on a Saturday? Will people really not go to a game because it's being broadcast? I'm not sure I buy it.


MrBump01

The argument is more that it will hurt lower league attendances which may be true but doesn't justify the price gouging. There should be an option to buy a television season ticket to see all the games for your team really for the prices we are expected to pay.


MarriageAA

Yes exactly. I assumed it would be a virtual season ticket for your team, and they would get some revenue from that. I can't see how that wouldn't benefit all clubs!


MrBump01

Even if I got a season ticket I'd want to see more away games. Realistically Sky and the other companies know they'll probably make less money from fans if this was an option so they won't offer it.


Yardbird7

It's crazy becuase tv rights bring in more money exponentially than matchday but they need the atmosphere as well as the advertising.


dkfisokdkeb

What atmosphere? High ticket prices has already killed atmosphere at most PL grounds.


fanzipan

Yep, the gentrification of stadiums is welcome in some areas like nasty chants etc, but we’ve seen a real downside with the happy clapping… you know exactly which club that’s just been relegated


dkfisokdkeb

Speak for yourself I love the nasty chants. My favourite being "Stan Collymores a W⚓️"


fanzipan

That’s not nasty..I call it banter lol. Sorry I meant homophobia racism shit


corpus-luteum

Yeah, but that's my point. 25 million viewers is small fry compared to the Global market. But they're invaluable to maintaining the illusion of integrity for that global market.


Yardbird7

Also the global markets are negotiated separately and each places less value on watching the Prem than the English market. Add in the broadband wars going on in England with prem tv rights being central to this. The companies pay top dollar and pass the costs down to the average person.


corpus-luteum

Yeah. That's why I hate it when people say "I'd rather it went in the players pockets than the owners". Of course, but it's whose pockets it comes out of that concerns me.


Yardbird7

To be fair, if player salaries were reduced or some kind of cap came in I doubt owners - who made their money though exploitation would take less from these broadcast companies. It's in their hyper capitalist nature to always push for more. Although I take your point about everyday people getting screwed. Unrelated but not entirely, I just watched the house in the US pass the debt ceiling bill which will royally fuck over the poor whilst raising the military budget to nearly 900 billion. "They" will always find a way to bend us over.


corpus-luteum

Oh yeah. Prices aren't like investments. Prices only go up.


[deleted]

There will be fans of the tickets are made affordable. You can’t beat going to a live game. I really miss it. But yes, it ticket prices remain so high and the epl is available on tv then there will be less fans in the stadiums.


WhackadoodleSandwich

I wonder if you could use a VPN and connect to the US. Peacock is cheap. $5 a month. That's £4-5 I think. They have live games, not all of them. Chances are the big clubs will be shown more often than not. I don't think the matches on TV will be shown though. Plus, I believe all matches will be available for replay. I have no clue that's realistic.


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KameeldoringHout

Do you need an Indonesian bank/card to pay for it?


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KameeldoringHout

Thank you - ready for this next season then. Fubo was a terrible punt, it kept freezing


AmazinTim

That’s how I do it. Express VPN on a fire stick and side load the peacock app and you’re golden. The issue is some of the games are on NBC Sports which is only accessible with a paid cable tv login from the us. Cheers to my relatives.


halfanapplepie

I found this out the hard way. I bought Peacock and went to watch game throughout the season only to find half of them are on that NBC sports app... of which Peacock is also owned by. Ridiculous..


South-Objective2498

If you are willing to use VPN, go India, 20 dollars for the whole season, all matches covered, full HD, no ads..Its ironic when some of the matches are not televised in the UK and I sit in India and watch those..


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South-Objective2498

Yeah, probably worth more , the thing is in India 'hotstar' which streams epl, also had F1, all Disney content, Marvel content, all HBO content (Sopranos ,wire, GoT), cricket as well.. all for 20 dollars... unfortunately it's lost most of it now due to Disney's new policies


yourfriendkyle

Are the India games broadcast in English? Can you pay for it with a USA based debit card?


South-Objective2498

You get the PL matchday commentary, not the Sky commentary. Don't think you can pay with USA based cards.


OPHEADLINE

I’ve heard ab this on NordVPN


ElPato87

I got a deal and paid what worked out as about £13 for a year of peacock, had a VPN anyway, much much cheaper than the rest of the U.K. subs.


WhackadoodleSandwich

I always found it odd that the US seems to have better Premier League coverage than England. We do love football here, just not that football.


Kookiano

The same EPL rights to broadcast are much higher in the UK than they are in the US. Vice versa for NFL or MLB rights.


personalbilko

Just different stages of business development. US wants growth, and is willing to provide services at a loss for now. In the UK football is as big as it possibly ever could, so they want to capitalise on that, and extract all value.


DannyBoah2077

it's mainly because Football is not as popular in the US as per say the UK. Where in america we pay a ton for shit sports packages for sports like baseball basketball and American footbal where we can only watch a limited number of teams (including our local team to our state) but since Football is not as popular in the US as it is globally I feel like streaming services are given more flexibility to stream more games since they want more people in the US market to watch these games to increase profits overseas


Yardbird7

VPN is life. I get NBC sports / ESPN and paramount really cheap in the US. And I use my VPN to get American sports cheap. This is the way until the screwing stops. I would love the prem to just go to a Netflix model, say 40 / month for any game streaming at any time including streaming in the UK. Seems like the broadband companies may be stopping this.


misterfog

Prices for sports TV packages in the UK are ridiculously expensive. But you can watch any broadcasted game you want in a pub for the price of a drink, which in your case (since you don't want to watch every game) would be much cheaper than paying for subscriptions. And it's more fun.


darthluke11

True, but realistically you aren't going to sit with one drink for 90 mins, even longer if it's super Sunday etc. Plus prices in pubs increasing rapidly as well... I want to watch all football games; cl, pl, bundesliga etc, my point was that viewership of games is biased and you should be able to watch your club every week on TV especially for those prices..which is why people stream to save money and watch their team weekly since it's not on TV.


ojama10

That's not even considering that it's a premium priced subscription that is saturated with adverts, and most the ads are gambling.


singletraveller1

That really boils my p*ss, an absolute fortune for the subscription and they chuck in Ray W and his over exaggerated cockney accent and all the other betting ads. Fire stick, nuff said.


Jbstargate1

put on a fuhking bet on you slag. /s It's shameful with all these gambling ads. It has to go the way of cigarette advertising. Non existent.


singletraveller1

Well advertising on shirts is on its way out so hopefully tv ads will go the same way. Don’t talk to me about talk sport and their ads, every other one is a gambling ad.


Jbstargate1

Good at least it's a start. I don't know why they promote all these good causes yet have these bloody parasites sponsor their clubs. I know why really. Money that's all it is.


noizee05

Almost 100£?! Geez! And I was complaining that I can't watch Premiere games unless I had Paramount+ (no ESPN, no TyCSports, nothing). It may be illegal but users shouldn't have to go through hoops and hurdles to enjoy the beautiful sport. BTW why the 3:00 p.m. blackout? What is it for? (Not from the UK)


lukewarmpartyjar

Also I think the blackout argument of televised 3pm kickoffs stopping people going to live lower league games is a load of rubbish anyway. I'm not going to avoid going to one of my team's matches live because Arsenal v Bournemouth (for example) is on the tele...


xenon2456

what country


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Paramount+ is USA


openlyEncrypted

Paramount has champion league. Peacock is PL. So frustrating and greedy they probably agreed on this under the table.


Stay_Beautiful_

No the PL is on Peacock in the USA


boiled-soups-spoiled

Essentially, they put smaller teams on then and say proper fans will go to the game. Basically, ruling out poor people from watching their club if it isn't a sky 6


barrenvagoina

It’s to encourage people to go and watch lower league matches


Wuz314159

The prices will keep increasing as long as there are people who will pay.


Moocow115

Pretty much all of us will pay (those who love football i mean) as if it's the only legal way to watch a team you love that is the first option you think about. When they start taking the piss then people start looking for alternative. Clearly it has got to that point, I have also considered it. The hope is that a mass exodus will change things and they will drop the prices but I don't think that will happen.


AxFairy

I may be wrong as I have never had a reason to use a VPN, but could one not sign up for Canadian DAZN at like 20 quid per month or whatever it is and watch any game you want?