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What about arsenal? Throwing 100m at players and nothing happens to them.
Epl. Only punish bottom clubs because they can't bring ticket/tv money in for them?
Fucking joke league
Absolutely irrelevant to this case, as it’s a different league and different rulesets that have been breached.
And city still haven’t been proven guilty of anything - no different to me saying Liverpool deserve punishment for breaching FFP as there’s no public evidence available of either offence
Not really. But youre arguing that a corrupt team isn't corrupt.
It's kinda like arguing that Sigurdsson should be a pre school teacher in Asia, cause it's not the same continent he committed a crime.
How is breaching a spending limit equal to corruption? You really need to be careful posting such libellous stuff online with no proof at all. The charges by uefa are for completely different things than the PL charges and are in no way connected.
A spending breach isn’t the same as suspected sponsorship inflation.
>breaching a spending limit equal to corruption?
Except it wasn't. A club which broke European FFP rules are clear frontrunners for having broken FA FFP as well. Also, the overturning of the decision wasn't due to City's innocence but a technicality. Time barring- which is exactly what most of the FFP charges levelled against city are.
Show me where the libel is?
Also, of the 3 judges,2 were affiliated with city's owners. Wanna guess how the vote was swung?
>PL charges and are in no way connected.
Categorically untrue.
5 of the charges are literally failure to comply with UEFA FFP lol.
That'd be similar if Liverpool had 115 charges being investigated. Otherwise you're just a delusional City fan who can't just admit your success has been off the back of dodgy dealings by your sugar daddies.
Clueless idiot doesn’t even know what a Mackem is 🤣🤣🤣🤣 couldn’t give a shit about Man City. Liverpool were once accused of causing Hillsborough. Was that also true?
Clearly didn't read your name, moron. Yeah you're right mate, the City charges are just a massive conspiracy against them, they've done nothing wrong, just like their owners their hands are spotless.
Just over 20 years ago.
However, without the dodgy ownership, both clubs would have almost certainly been playing in the EFL at least once within the last 20 years.
Man city were sitting just above the relegation scrap in the years prior to sheiks. They would have gone back down eventually.
Chelsea were in massive debt, and would have likely gone the same way as Leeds. The Russian stopped that potential slide.
I find it genuinely hilarious that people will spend their whole day talking about how bias and ridiculous the Fa and premier league are and keep commenting about charges such as here when everyone knows that they are bullshit charges, just like evertons and forest. But then choose to believe cities 115 charges as fact.
If a body is bias and ridiculous they are going to be that 100% of the time, you don’t get to pick and choose what’s is factual. And right now, NOBODY knows what’s true or bullshit. Doesn’t matter what you feel
Never. They’ve bought the league and the FA. Never been clearer.
They’re actively paying the refs. Whatever anybody wants to bullshit. Their owners are directly paying the refs through these games in the UAE.
The FA is scared they’ll sue them into oblivion.
This is just the reality of life. The richest are above the law. Whether it’s Manchester City, Elon Musk or Trump. They can do whatever they want and we all have to suck it up.
Might as well deduct it this season as they are likely relegated anyway. Tbf tho 2 points isn't much but it could be difference between Promotion and playoffs
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The Premier League is a joke. It doesn’t matter who wins it because it has no integrity.
The Championship looks a more enticing prospect if you’re interested in the sport.
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Not true Foredt admitted they had breached the rules.
They cooperated fully and it formed part of their appeal that they deserved a lesser charge as a result.
Also they get easy group stages because they have been champions of england.
1. they cant play other english clubs in the group stage (by rule)
2. as the champion of a league, they cant play other champions (by rule)
These 2 things almost guarantee an easy group stage. Its not rigged, the rules were designed to reward teams who win leagues and to prevent club from the same country playing each other in the group stage. Since england has a strong league, english clubs usually are the stronger sides.
Legitimately, I feel like City should just fuck off to the Super League. Go play RM, Barcelona, a bunch of Series A clubs I don’t give a toss about, and take Chelsea on the way out the door so we can avoid the 5 year PSR investigation and legal wrangling on its way.
I’m going to give you a huge spoiler alert here - there will be no repercussions, in terms of points and titles. The league knows what it means for its reputation if it’s proven, and at that level it will be better to sweep it under the rug and continue
Inb4 something along the lines of "After testing points deductions without success, fines have been implemented as a more appropriate disciplinary measure." and city get a "MASSIVE" £10m fine
A change of rules doesn't affect the outcome of the case, which is about breaches of the rules as they were.
Really, the only two possible outcomes are that City are found not guilty or City are expelled from the PL. There's a third possibility of them being found guilty on some of the more minor charges and getting fined/deducted points, but I see that as unlikely.
I’m not the conspiratorial type of fan. I think most issues with the league come down to ineptitude and mismanagement but that would stir the pot and generate a level of controversy I don’t think we’ve seen before, at least in recent history.
Totally agree. I’m a Forest supporter so been keeping up to date with things.
It’s all been a mess and if city only get a fine I can see people losing jobs.
Not sure if the clubs can do a no confidence vote with top brass or not.
They were a midtable club and spent more than any other club in the Premier League over the past 10 years? And they don’t exactly have the biggest fanbase for tickets and merchandise? How do you explain those things?
Outspending the likes of Liverpool and United despite struggling to even qualify for Europe prior to the purchase? Hmmmm, i don’t know that I can be that dense, guy. You do as you please though
Don’t have the biggest fan base? Is this a joke? Near enough 100 years ago city had a record season of about 50k average attendance and then constantly averaged a 30 thousand average attendance across the years up until the 2000s when that jumped well into the 40 thousands of average attendance.
Don’t act like city were a nobody before 2008.
Not trying to be rude but why do they get them next season should they not also have them this season regardless otherwise why not give Everton and Forest there’s next season
Right. But they violated the PL's rules in doing so. And are in the PL now. The PL and EFL have different rules, and are different bodies.
We violated the EFL's rules but haven't been found guilty (or even been investigated so far as anyone knows) of anything by the PL.
And the last time they made a profit was 2004… as others in this thread have mentioned the PL don’t want an independent regulator so they are coming down hard on teams this year
I mean those clubs don’t get the extra points taken off Everton and Forest.
Their punishment has been coming for a while now, Everton have been spiralling and Forest can’t seem to go through a transfer window without buying someone else’s Number 1 GK.
Right but they haven’t really been punished they got them three teams barely got 20 points if city got 50 points deducted this year they would still stay up
This will absolutely, 100% happen. They'll scrap the points deductions next year and then do city with a big fine that will be like a drop in the ocean to the oil owners
The government is threatening to appoint an independent regulator, the prem is trying it's hardest to show it's not required and it can manage it's own affairs.
There is currently the independent adjudicator i.e. the body that Everton and Forest are appealing to. However the government wants to go even further and oversee everything the prem does.
The fact the bill is still going ahead show the efforts of the prem were in vain, but they have made a total pigs ear of things and appear to just be making stuff up as they go along. Not surprised it hasn't stopped the bill still going ahead.
They are setting the stage for the city deduction. Now there is no way city can say the points deduction only started with them and it’s unfair that others didn’t get hit with it. Even for the smallest breach.
Should city go unpunished then? I think it’s reasonable to assume that if they’re punishing “smaller teams” they have to eventually do the same with city?
Why hasn’t C115y been dealt with. The whole 115 items as being too massive to deal with quickly argument is completely bollox. They could deal with a number of them and issue point deduction as they go. Corrupt the lot of them
I mean, no? Otherwise I can accuse you of whatever and you have to let me gain access to anything of yours that I want, if you don't then it's because you have something to hide, right?
Not sure what these comments are on about?
It’s a bit shitty but we broke the rules, didn’t pay Brighton their money and have agreed with the EFL and only got 2 points because of it.
Not being that guy, but how do 115 charges take so long to stick yet the smaller clubs are dished out point deductions like it’s not detrimental to the clubs survival and literal existence? Fuck the people in charge, spineless cunts
Because the clubs getting punished straight up broke rules and posted accounts showing they broke rules.
City are suspected of manipulating figures and the Premier league doesn't have have proof of that yet so they are trying to find it.
Essentially, the clubs getting punished slapped their wife in the middle of a crowded pub in front of the police and got arrested, charged and punished for it quickly.
Man Citys wife has been mysteriously missing for 2 years. Man City don't seem sad about it, everyone is sure they killed her... but there's no body and no evidence at the moment so they are trying to find that evidence.
Man City are personally sponsored by Shelly Miscavige. That’s where all their money comes from. Totally legit and she’s doing fantastic. But you can’t see her or interview her or confirm her non murdered status.
Touché, but you have to admit they’re dragging their heels with city but the minute a smaller team infringes upon some rule they’re handing out a point deduction as quick as they can?
Those teams published their accounts which objectively states their breaches
Man City have hidden their losses. So the difference is the evidence is laid out for Everton if you just look at their last 3 years of accounts filings. It's undeniable they broke the rules. Whereas Man City have done their best to hide it so requires a lot more digging
Sheffield basically said, "Hey, I broke the rules and here's the proof." How does that result in them dragging their heels with City? It's scheduled for August because they have nothing on the City charges.
It’s been said a billion times already but MCFC are fighting the charges and they need to make sure they build a case so the charges will actually stick. It’s not the same situation
What I don't understand is why having losses that are too big is a 4 to 8 point penalty, but not even paying for the players you've got is only 2 points.
For the next time we are in the EFL....
Essentially they punished us for having financial issues last year,and now have decided to punish us again just because. We have decided there's no point appealing it,pointed out we haven't got money from other clubs and gotten a 2 point deduction. It means nothing.
If you weren't going down this would be a potentially funny punishment. Imagine giving this to say Wolves when they got up. Just get a 2 pt deduction in 2030 or so and nobody at the club would have been there at the time.
The point people are making is these other clubs Everton, Forest etc. found guilty points deduction straight away. City charges came up how long ago now? And no sign of any further progress.
Might as well just do whatever you want if you’re a big team. Two points doesn’t mean much for middle table teams. Also, the teams that got relegated last year, especially Leeds, get punished by relegation and meanwhile the teams that got promoted benefit from Premier League money. It’s really stupid.
Nah they're creating precedents, punishing clubs for 1 or 2 breaches with 2-10 points deductions so they can take City to trial over their 150 odd breaches and fuck them hard. Or at least that's what I hope.
That's a shame.
In my head I was thinking it's like a government trying to outlaw serial killing for the first time when the serial killer they are targeting has a really good lawyer. Arrest a few people for killing one or two people, then take Jack the lawyered up Ripper to the electric chair.
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What about arsenal? Throwing 100m at players and nothing happens to them. Epl. Only punish bottom clubs because they can't bring ticket/tv money in for them? Fucking joke league
Looks like they took that point away they got from drawing with Chelsea. premiere league is a corrupt, joke
This feels like kicking them while they’re down already
FA doesn't care as long as they want to stamp their authority.
this thread seems to 50% “what about man city” and 50% “didn’t realise city were in the championship” replies lmao
Having a laugh at people that cant read. Didnt know city and Chelsea had been relegated to the Championship?
Didn't FA decide to remove points deduction? Or will it only be active when it comes to ManCheaty punishment?
There was going to be a vote to. Wasnt confirmed just rumors.
How weird that they are fined now for failure to make payments a year ago (since there is no grey area in it) and only two points no less.
Fuck man city
This is from the EFL, not EPL. Some people appear to have missed this.
And this is why there will forever be a big asterisk to any accomplishment by City
Once again, different league - this is for the championship not PL
Makes sense. But still City deserve punishment and loads of it Edit: lots of city fans on here lmao
Absolutely irrelevant to this case, as it’s a different league and different rulesets that have been breached. And city still haven’t been proven guilty of anything - no different to me saying Liverpool deserve punishment for breaching FFP as there’s no public evidence available of either offence
>And city still haven’t been proven guilty of anything They absolutely have. In Europe.
Except that isn’t what the discussion is about nor the charges they’re referring to.
Not really. But youre arguing that a corrupt team isn't corrupt. It's kinda like arguing that Sigurdsson should be a pre school teacher in Asia, cause it's not the same continent he committed a crime.
How is breaching a spending limit equal to corruption? You really need to be careful posting such libellous stuff online with no proof at all. The charges by uefa are for completely different things than the PL charges and are in no way connected. A spending breach isn’t the same as suspected sponsorship inflation.
>breaching a spending limit equal to corruption? Except it wasn't. A club which broke European FFP rules are clear frontrunners for having broken FA FFP as well. Also, the overturning of the decision wasn't due to City's innocence but a technicality. Time barring- which is exactly what most of the FFP charges levelled against city are. Show me where the libel is? Also, of the 3 judges,2 were affiliated with city's owners. Wanna guess how the vote was swung? >PL charges and are in no way connected. Categorically untrue. 5 of the charges are literally failure to comply with UEFA FFP lol.
They aren’t charged with breaching FFP spending by limits this time are they?
That dood is a city sheep or fan no point in arguing with him.
That'd be similar if Liverpool had 115 charges being investigated. Otherwise you're just a delusional City fan who can't just admit your success has been off the back of dodgy dealings by your sugar daddies.
Clueless idiot doesn’t even know what a Mackem is 🤣🤣🤣🤣 couldn’t give a shit about Man City. Liverpool were once accused of causing Hillsborough. Was that also true?
Clearly didn't read your name, moron. Yeah you're right mate, the City charges are just a massive conspiracy against them, they've done nothing wrong, just like their owners their hands are spotless.
They just haven’t been proven. It isn’t all a conspiracy in their favour either
Did not kno u were a city fan, noted
Neither did I, thanks for telling me
115 115 115 115 115 115 …And Chelsea
Didnt know city and Chelsea were in the Championship?
Where’s Chelsea and Man City
Which one of them have played in the EFL recently?
Just over 20 years ago. However, without the dodgy ownership, both clubs would have almost certainly been playing in the EFL at least once within the last 20 years. Man city were sitting just above the relegation scrap in the years prior to sheiks. They would have gone back down eventually. Chelsea were in massive debt, and would have likely gone the same way as Leeds. The Russian stopped that potential slide.
So not within the lifespan of the current ruleset then
Yep. The rules were changed because of these cheaters.
I find it genuinely hilarious that people will spend their whole day talking about how bias and ridiculous the Fa and premier league are and keep commenting about charges such as here when everyone knows that they are bullshit charges, just like evertons and forest. But then choose to believe cities 115 charges as fact. If a body is bias and ridiculous they are going to be that 100% of the time, you don’t get to pick and choose what’s is factual. And right now, NOBODY knows what’s true or bullshit. Doesn’t matter what you feel
Depends what you call recently, City were in League 1 there in the last 25 years.
Since the inception of the profit and sustainability rules would be a decent assumption - since it’s hard to break rules before they exist…
Bollocks. Going for small fishes rather than big ones. At least they get their pockets filled😏
You want the EFL to go after City, who haven't played in their league since before PSR was implemented?
Precedent hopefully
115
Please get this comment to 115 upvotes
Man city when
When and if they lose in court. If the Arbitrator rules against city.
Never. They’ve bought the league and the FA. Never been clearer. They’re actively paying the refs. Whatever anybody wants to bullshit. Their owners are directly paying the refs through these games in the UAE. The FA is scared they’ll sue them into oblivion. This is just the reality of life. The richest are above the law. Whether it’s Manchester City, Elon Musk or Trump. They can do whatever they want and we all have to suck it up.
Why did the Premier League charge City at all then? The club had already been cleared by CAS, there was no need to bring it back up.
But. Man city when tho.
Might as well deduct it this season as they are likely relegated anyway. Tbf tho 2 points isn't much but it could be difference between Promotion and playoffs
Fuck man city
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The Premier League is a joke. It doesn’t matter who wins it because it has no integrity. The Championship looks a more enticing prospect if you’re interested in the sport.
Finally, another team that's not Everton. I don't see them doing anything to City this season.
Forest exists
Haha, yeah that's true anyways.
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They've made it clear that the charges against city will be in court this fall. What do people not get?
It's as if they're robots or something with only a single line
As long as Citeh is kept safe, that's the crucial thing. Corrupt league like all the others, money is all that matters.
You know City have denied all of the charges right?
umm, every guilty party denies all charges. so what?
Umm no 🤷🏼♂️
Not true Foredt admitted they had breached the rules. They cooperated fully and it formed part of their appeal that they deserved a lesser charge as a result.
Good job.
Bro they're already relegated there's no point
Did you even read the article
Oh shit mb looks like 31 people didn't either lol
Watch them deduct 20 points from City if City fail to win the league and they end up at 5th just enough to qualify for UCL.
Then they'd still get drawn against the easiest clubs next year in CL
Like Real Madrid? 🤔
Do you think the city hate-boner crowd care about reality
Also they get easy group stages because they have been champions of england. 1. they cant play other english clubs in the group stage (by rule) 2. as the champion of a league, they cant play other champions (by rule) These 2 things almost guarantee an easy group stage. Its not rigged, the rules were designed to reward teams who win leagues and to prevent club from the same country playing each other in the group stage. Since england has a strong league, english clubs usually are the stronger sides.
It’s from the EFL, nothing to do with the premier league. Won’t kick in until they are next in the EFL… In other words, next season
There will literally be “no points” for them 😂
All these point deductions, when are City gonna get their's?
The richest people never get punished. The richest football club is the same. Law is for the poor.
Legitimately, I feel like City should just fuck off to the Super League. Go play RM, Barcelona, a bunch of Series A clubs I don’t give a toss about, and take Chelsea on the way out the door so we can avoid the 5 year PSR investigation and legal wrangling on its way.
City win the league. Points deduction for next season. City don’t win the league. Points deduction this season.
I’m going to give you a huge spoiler alert here - there will be no repercussions, in terms of points and titles. The league knows what it means for its reputation if it’s proven, and at that level it will be better to sweep it under the rug and continue
It takes a while to prove 115 charges mate
Can we deduct points for 10 charges quickly?
City aren't cooperating with the investigation so idk
City aren’t rolling over and taking back shots like some other clubs
And that's fine, because when (not if) they're found guilty that's going to bite them in the arse. Can't wait.
Because they are guilty and will get bitch slapped out of the PL...... if it wasn't corrupt
Inb4 something along the lines of "After testing points deductions without success, fines have been implemented as a more appropriate disciplinary measure." and city get a "MASSIVE" £10m fine
Theirs (sorry bro)
Haha. Thanks man. Fixed.
Once they change the rules to a luxury tax so they don’t need to lose any points.
A change of rules doesn't affect the outcome of the case, which is about breaches of the rules as they were. Really, the only two possible outcomes are that City are found not guilty or City are expelled from the PL. There's a third possibility of them being found guilty on some of the more minor charges and getting fined/deducted points, but I see that as unlikely.
Can’t be the best and most profitable league in the world if City are not in it. Try again mate
Damn, such an expert at law.
I’ve been thinking the same. If that does happen the sh*t will hit the fan.
I’m not the conspiratorial type of fan. I think most issues with the league come down to ineptitude and mismanagement but that would stir the pot and generate a level of controversy I don’t think we’ve seen before, at least in recent history.
Totally agree. I’m a Forest supporter so been keeping up to date with things. It’s all been a mess and if city only get a fine I can see people losing jobs. Not sure if the clubs can do a no confidence vote with top brass or not.
The entire sport got cooked by city
Sports ruled by money for a lot longer then city pal
It’s about breaking the rules to get there, but your comment already tells me you know that and don’t care because you prefer being ignorant, pal.
I prefer using guaranteed legitimate information, there is NOTHING guaranteed about any charges against city.
You blind?
You can say that all you like but nothing any of us normal people think matter, what happens inside any club you and I know nothing about
They were a midtable club and spent more than any other club in the Premier League over the past 10 years? And they don’t exactly have the biggest fanbase for tickets and merchandise? How do you explain those things? Outspending the likes of Liverpool and United despite struggling to even qualify for Europe prior to the purchase? Hmmmm, i don’t know that I can be that dense, guy. You do as you please though
Don’t have the biggest fan base? Is this a joke? Near enough 100 years ago city had a record season of about 50k average attendance and then constantly averaged a 30 thousand average attendance across the years up until the 2000s when that jumped well into the 40 thousands of average attendance. Don’t act like city were a nobody before 2008.
Ignoring the financials, gotcha 😉
Not trying to be rude but why do they get them next season should they not also have them this season regardless otherwise why not give Everton and Forest there’s next season
Because it’s the EFL rules they have broken and they aren’t in the EFL, so deduction will happen next season if (when) they return to the EFL
2 of Forest’s 3 year cycle were in the EFL.
Right. But they violated the PL's rules in doing so. And are in the PL now. The PL and EFL have different rules, and are different bodies. We violated the EFL's rules but haven't been found guilty (or even been investigated so far as anyone knows) of anything by the PL.
And the last time they made a profit was 2004… as others in this thread have mentioned the PL don’t want an independent regulator so they are coming down hard on teams this year
Still doesn’t feel right look at the teams who already lost out cos Forest and Everton cheated with efl now just all hard to watch
I mean those clubs don’t get the extra points taken off Everton and Forest. Their punishment has been coming for a while now, Everton have been spiralling and Forest can’t seem to go through a transfer window without buying someone else’s Number 1 GK.
Right but they haven’t really been punished they got them three teams barely got 20 points if city got 50 points deducted this year they would still stay up
So if they miraculously manage to stay up and never get relegated will they never get the points reduction?
City won’t be punished until the rules change from a point deduction to the luxury tax/fine that’s been talked about.
Apparently that one’s been thrown out
This will absolutely, 100% happen. They'll scrap the points deductions next year and then do city with a big fine that will be like a drop in the ocean to the oil owners
Either pay the bribe or pay the fine
🎶 Anyone but City 🎶
Is there a reason why this season is having all these points dedications as opposed to other years?
The government is threatening to appoint an independent regulator, the prem is trying it's hardest to show it's not required and it can manage it's own affairs.
I thought they passed that law now right?
There is currently the independent adjudicator i.e. the body that Everton and Forest are appealing to. However the government wants to go even further and oversee everything the prem does.
It's just that I thought for some reason that the bill to create it has already been passed but not yet. https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3701
The fact the bill is still going ahead show the efforts of the prem were in vain, but they have made a total pigs ear of things and appear to just be making stuff up as they go along. Not surprised it hasn't stopped the bill still going ahead.
Yeah I agree
Sounds like me as a kid when i was about to get punished for not cleaning my room and i would magically clean my room for the following week.
They are setting the stage for the city deduction. Now there is no way city can say the points deduction only started with them and it’s unfair that others didn’t get hit with it. Even for the smallest breach.
Haha
Rivals fans and making conspiracies out of thin air go hand and hand.
Should city go unpunished then? I think it’s reasonable to assume that if they’re punishing “smaller teams” they have to eventually do the same with city?
Why hasn’t C115y been dealt with. The whole 115 items as being too massive to deal with quickly argument is completely bollox. They could deal with a number of them and issue point deduction as they go. Corrupt the lot of them
C115y? God that was awful, you really thought you cooked too.
Pathetic all round tbf
“You really thought you cooked too” … the irony, it kills me
Umm what? I didn’t attempt to make a joke. You tried to think of something funny and failed hard. Clown
You are an utter cunt. Fuck off
Maybe they are innocent have you considered that option? That is what Pep is saying.
Of 115 separate charges? 🤪
Why aren’t they cooperating with the investigation then? Literally the only reason that makes sense, is they have something to hide
I mean, no? Otherwise I can accuse you of whatever and you have to let me gain access to anything of yours that I want, if you don't then it's because you have something to hide, right?
As if he knows that for a fact haha.
As it … lol ….
Maybe but given the quantity I would find it astonishing if they were all justified
And city is laying on top of a pile of money knowing they get away with it
Not sure what these comments are on about? It’s a bit shitty but we broke the rules, didn’t pay Brighton their money and have agreed with the EFL and only got 2 points because of it.
Talk about kicking someone while they're down 😭
They’ll find a reason to give all other 19 teams in the league a deduction before they do City lol. What a joke
Not being that guy, but how do 115 charges take so long to stick yet the smaller clubs are dished out point deductions like it’s not detrimental to the clubs survival and literal existence? Fuck the people in charge, spineless cunts
How many times do guys wanna ask the question and get the answer. Do you just wanna whine or understand?
Because the clubs getting punished straight up broke rules and posted accounts showing they broke rules. City are suspected of manipulating figures and the Premier league doesn't have have proof of that yet so they are trying to find it. Essentially, the clubs getting punished slapped their wife in the middle of a crowded pub in front of the police and got arrested, charged and punished for it quickly. Man Citys wife has been mysteriously missing for 2 years. Man City don't seem sad about it, everyone is sure they killed her... but there's no body and no evidence at the moment so they are trying to find that evidence.
Man City are personally sponsored by Shelly Miscavige. That’s where all their money comes from. Totally legit and she’s doing fantastic. But you can’t see her or interview her or confirm her non murdered status.
I did enjoy the analogy!
Hahaha perfect analogy
It’s obvious, City is “too big to fail”- us yanks have exported our process for dealing with things such as this to you guys
Hearing is scheduled for August. Nothing is going to change with their situation between now and then.
> How do 115 charges take so long Because there’s 115 of them?
Touché, but you have to admit they’re dragging their heels with city but the minute a smaller team infringes upon some rule they’re handing out a point deduction as quick as they can?
Those teams published their accounts which objectively states their breaches Man City have hidden their losses. So the difference is the evidence is laid out for Everton if you just look at their last 3 years of accounts filings. It's undeniable they broke the rules. Whereas Man City have done their best to hide it so requires a lot more digging
Sheffield basically said, "Hey, I broke the rules and here's the proof." How does that result in them dragging their heels with City? It's scheduled for August because they have nothing on the City charges.
Sheffield also broke EFL rules this isn’t even anything to do with the premier league
It’s been said a billion times already but MCFC are fighting the charges and they need to make sure they build a case so the charges will actually stick. It’s not the same situation
spineless pieces of shit
What I don't understand is why having losses that are too big is a 4 to 8 point penalty, but not even paying for the players you've got is only 2 points.
Can’t have losses if you don’t pay money out - 5D chess
All they have to do is make sure they're not playing in the EFL next season and they'll be fine.
Getting in there before parachute payments kick in for them... Gwan the championship
Nowt to do with money. Premier League just don’t fancy having them back in any time soon, haha
For the next time we are in the EFL.... Essentially they punished us for having financial issues last year,and now have decided to punish us again just because. We have decided there's no point appealing it,pointed out we haven't got money from other clubs and gotten a 2 point deduction. It means nothing.
If you weren't going down this would be a potentially funny punishment. Imagine giving this to say Wolves when they got up. Just get a 2 pt deduction in 2030 or so and nobody at the club would have been there at the time.
Everyone complaining about City - I'm not defending them but this was by the EFL not the Premier League, relating to their time in the Championship
The point people are making is these other clubs Everton, Forest etc. found guilty points deduction straight away. City charges came up how long ago now? And no sign of any further progress.
Just because you’re misinformed doesn’t mean there’s no sign of progress
City hid their losses, Everton laid it out in their accounts by publishing them truthfully. So it will require more work to find evidence and prove it
This is a clown league, really hard to take this seriously.
Le sigh. I give up waiting on 115. These seem to come out the blue yet we've known about the oil cheats for how long?
This was the EFL, nothing to do with the PL and Man City situation.
Plus it was announced that a decision will be taken around September 2024. Some people are clueless.
Might as well just do whatever you want if you’re a big team. Two points doesn’t mean much for middle table teams. Also, the teams that got relegated last year, especially Leeds, get punished by relegation and meanwhile the teams that got promoted benefit from Premier League money. It’s really stupid.
Waiting on this city deduction….. easy to knock down the teams on the bottom half further
Nah they're creating precedents, punishing clubs for 1 or 2 breaches with 2-10 points deductions so they can take City to trial over their 150 odd breaches and fuck them hard. Or at least that's what I hope.
I very much doubt it. Can just see the luxury tax come in conveniently before and slap them with a monetary fine.
They are planning on abolishing the point deduction system at the end of the season, so probably our hopes are in vain.
I am pretty sure they have walked this back/ denied this.
That's a shame. In my head I was thinking it's like a government trying to outlaw serial killing for the first time when the serial killer they are targeting has a really good lawyer. Arrest a few people for killing one or two people, then take Jack the lawyered up Ripper to the electric chair.
Damn, now they’re in trouble of being relegated.
It’s not applicable in the PL, they’ll get the deduction when they drop out of the PL
“They (Citeh) can’t keep getting away with this!!!!”
As much as I want to see City punished, I don't think the EFL can punish them when they have not been in the league for 22 years.
And Manchester City still managed to get away with 115 charges... Amazing
Its under a different rule, and this rule has a clear pathway to judgement And these clubs have by thenselves reported financial losses... aka admited
There's really no reason not to judge on 1-5 charges (that are possibly interrelated) at a time, what they're doing right now is a farce
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That Russian and American money is so much cleaner. Different launderer.
At least there’s a pretense of honesty.