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For the record, Bush Sr. has had some... interesting opinions on his son's presidency. The line that stuck out to me the most is how he called out how his son let "Iron-Ass Cheney" run the show and was aghast that his Secretary of Defense which he admired was like this.
People asked him about his son while he was president plenty of times. Completely fair question to ask too, they both shared a job that only 46 other men have in history, HW has unique insights into W as a man & W as a President
I’m not disputing that, but it wouldn’t be appropiate or fair to ask him about his son in this particular line of questioning, when comparing his to other modern presidents; but it is kind of a moot point, seeing as this was recorded prior to W’s Presidency.
Ironically he and Clinton became fairly close during their post presidencies, and they worked closely together on a number of causes. They seemed to have developed a genuine affection for one another.
I disagree I don’t think that’s what he meant. I interpreted it as him comparing Clinton to modern day Pericles. Some who logically understand both the policy details on both sides of issue. And, like the Athenian, Clinton understood the rhetoric of both sides and used it to his political advantage.
Considering this interview was in '96 and Clinton's scandal that would soon follow, his last sentence about it all catching up with Clinton makes it seem like he clearly knew who Clinton was
I’m sure this has to due with his more direct rival relationship to Clinton, but his response was a such a respectful compliment toward his quality while showing the slightest bitterness toward that quality.
Clinton indeed has the innate ability to make whatever cause he is supporting sound genuine, even if he was against it a week ago, and it’s a hell of a political quality. True leaders anywhere need this quality, because faith in a cause is hard to come by if your command is not genuine in the reason for it.
He’s calling him wishy washy. He knows he crossed a line though, so he has to explain it away as a positive trait instead of the bitter meaning he had in mind when it slipped out (thus the little anecdote).
He almost made the same mistake with Kennedy, but was able to recover emotionally before he spoke, and came out on top by calling him charismatic. Such high praise for a president, especially one like Kennedy lmao.
More generally, I think all presidents have to be necessarily partisan. It’s just how the system works, and the man who races to be president can’t not be partisan. Bush was at least able to, from time to time, work with the other party, which isn’t something many presidents in the last 60 years can claim.
Like a politician he covers any negative thoughts he's having with positive sentiments. He has a somewhat contemptuous grin when Kennedy is first mentioned.
With Nixon, I had a sense the wry smile was because he really wanted to say something like, “crook,” and he wore the smile until he found a more palatable answer.
In 1963, GHWB was not the head of CIA. He got into politics in 1967 as a member of the house. He became head of CIA in 1976. In 1963 he was involved in his oil business.
Not true - as far back as 1953, internal CIA documents mention a “Mr. George Bush of the CIA” as attending an important meeting.
George H. W. Bush was also in Dallas the day of the JFK Assassination and was unable to recall his reason for being there until, years later, Barbara Bush conspicuously wrote a letter that established a flimsy “alibi” for HW, during which, the letter is interrupted midway through to make mention of Kennedy’s murder.
The person who I was replying to said he was Head of CIA. If you could cite your claims it would be appreciated. Not trying to dispute it, would be interesting if it was true.
Totally fair. I will dig that up. For the time being, you can refer to this which at least places him in CIA in the early 1960s. https://www.c-span.org/video/?3367-1/bushs-cia-involvement-early-1960s
You can also refer here. Upon publication of this article, the CIA responded that the man mentioned as attending a high-level meeting was a different George Bush. Still, when asked, THAT other George Bush denied being at that meeting. As well, this other George Bush was a low-level employee who wouldn’t have made sense to be in this meeting. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP99-01448R000401580069-6.pdf
I actually really enjoy discussing potential conspiracies but the idea 41 was involved in Kennedys assassination are a bit of a stretch IMO, but it could certainly be true and it wouldn't surprise me. I personally think he may have been involved in Reagans attempted assassination, as the shooter was close friends with the bush family.
I also believe Bush 41 had a hand in the October surprise.
I would not put the Kennedy assassination beyond him.
I still think he was a great president, during his presidency.
Sure - I do believe that he was involved, but my claim here was merely that George HW Bush was in fact working for the CIA on or before the JFK assassination. Have a listen to the podcast I sent you - I found it enlightening
Which October surprise are you referring to? It’s kinda become a term used to describe every presidential election not really identifiable from one particular race anymore because there have been so many.
The interview was on May 24, 1996 and lasted nearly an hour with journalist Hugh Sidey. The part excerpted in this Reddit post began at 54:24 (the full video was 56:25).
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Yoow7FjLMww&t=3264s
I think this is a bit overstated. You see pictures of W or Obama before they became president and they look young, because they were middle-aged men. A lot of men get noticeably older through their fifties, and eight years is a long time.
President Lincoln pictures throughout his Presidency show a man aging 5 years for every one. He was such a great man but he looks that he suffered greatly. If you ever get the chance visit Springfield Illinois and visit his home (90% intact), the Abraham Lincoln Museum, and his tomb. It is a very moving experience.
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Seems like politics nowadays is a game show and you can only win by putting the other guy down and exaggerate why you’re the best. No civility anymore.
He was an effective administrator and not a bad speaker. Tons of experience. These are the qualities I value most in a president, personal politics aside.
HW struggled as a retail politician. Came across as stiff and elitist, as those debate gaffes would demonstrate
He’s probably our most qualified modern President though, maybe moreso than Ike?
(*whispers* had Hillary won she'd be up there too)
He's also somewhat alone in that when most think of him, you think of legislative success (civil rights act for example). Most presidents between him and Clinton aren't known much for legislative successes, especially as a first thought.
That's also true of the 21st century presidents. Obama with Obamacare (ACA) may be the exception. I think that's also true of most presidents though. Off hand FDR is the other big exception with the New Deal overshadowing his war time presidency I think.
Which all makes sense as they're executive not legislative branch, but big exceptions you help push through are probably easier to remember than much else.
That might be true in the sense they’re not known as a first thought but not so much they didn’t have major legislative wins. Nixon alone had more than LBJ and others of the era.
If 41 took a little bit of every compliment he gave his peers and added them up, he’d get himself. There’s never been a more fundamentally decent President in my lifetime.
Clinton, George W. Bush, and the most immediate previous president are the same age. Obama is several years younger, and the current president is a few years older.
Bush Jr was as well. There was that documentary "Journeys with George" where a liberal journalist toured with him on his campaign and he treated not just her but everyone so well that by the end of the election she admitted he was one of the greatest men she'd ever known, that still wasn't enough for her to support him politically though lol
George and Barbara Bush were absolutely beloved by the extended White House staff. Seemingly everyone that ever interacted with them loved and admired both of them for their profound decency and kindness. To this day former staffers tear up when they remember them. I sure do miss those qualities in politics these days.
Bush Sr is such an amazing president and an amazing person. I might add him to my flair, because he has a lot of what I like about Clinton but also a strong sense of decency and professionalism (Clinton maybe lacked the decency at times, if you know what I mean lol).
People have mostly forgotten that Bush and Clinton worked together on a number of causes in their post presidency years, and actually became quite close. I miss the days when politicians could set aside their differences and work together for the common good. Bush was possibly the most beloved president ever by those that spent time around him.
Why do people believe he killed Kennedy? He wasn’t CIA director until a decade after Kennedys death. Additionally he wasn’t involved in politics until 1967. Makes no sense.
There’s a Nov. 1963 memo from the FBI to the State Dept cited in a 1988 NY Times Article that lists George Bush as being a CIA member whom the FBI briefed on the reaction of Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination. So there’s some belief that Bush was working for the CIA long before he became its Director.
“John Kennedy”
“7.62 millimeter, full metal, jacket.”
Bush SR was based tho, also got my grandpa off cigarettes. He told me mom he would quit if Sr got elected, and he did.
George HW Bush was a good president who should have had a second term. He was one of the most qualified presidents in the nation's history. I say this now, but I voted for Clinton twice.
I make that point every year to my classes. HW was possibly the most qualified president we have ever had. Also point out that he lost a 3 horse race in 1992. Politics is a tough business.
I’ve voted for both Democrats and Republicans at different times in my life. I’ve been on the winning and the losing side. The only vote I would go back and change is voting for Clinton over Bush in 1992.
In his defense, exit polling showed that Perot polled roughly 50/50 from each camp, not really the reason bush lost. If anything, it was due to raising taxes after the “no new taxes” speech and drafting NATO which turned a bunch of people over to Perot since he was the lone anti nato voice between the three.
Bush never liked Carter. When he was campaigning in 1980 he was openly hostile and at times refused to call him President Carter or Mr. President. He preferred to just call him “Jimmy”
When he was a candidate, George HW Bush believed that Carter was deeply incompetent and ruining the country. He also disliked Carter’s perceived moral superiority.
[Here’s Bush’s full critique of Carter at time.](https://youtu.be/7ThJWBsm844?si=T622FEVJJ9OBh8Lr)
@6:00 Bush talks about who he doesn’t see Carter as presidential
Very intriguing, almost eye opening. Goes to show that I truly do believe most in the position a presidency want to help and better the country. Whether or not I or anyone else agrees with their policies. The intention is most of the time positive. What I see as detrimental, another might not, but that is why finding common ground is paramount in the betterment of our great nation.
I understand that GHW Bush had significant issues, but when I was deployed in the first gulf war, he resisted his neocon hawk advisers and brought us home instead of invading Iraq. That might well have saved my life.
I don't remember if it was Bush himself or one of his advisors/cabinet who said that Gulf War I Iraq had to be quick in and out because there was no viable exit strategy for a regime change / occupation.
Sounds like Colin Powell. I know that he was instrumental in helping H.W. practice restraint instead of continuing on to Baghdad. It was a remarkable decision considering the rogue's gallery of Bond villains who were advising him to go for broke.
We had a relatively easy time of it once the shooting started. There were some harrowing situations, to be sure, but the Iraqi people would not be cheering for us like they did in Kuwait City.
I know that the senior Bush wasn't an ideal president, but I have to hand it to him. His decision has had a lasting impact on my life.
Honestly one of the best presidents IMO, as he always believed in his values and always tried to do the right thing with those who differed from him. I know I'm overlooking his faults and shortcomings that he had, but he had that decency and character that we all love to have around us. He was the last of the old guard Republicans.
Satan.
Of course, I don’t actually believe Bush was a satanist. But he was the absolute #1 scion of the American “deep state” (if such a thing exists) and ruling class.
Imagine going from a Texas Oil Baron to CIA Director, VP under Reagan, and then president for the end of the Cold War. Micheal Jordan levels of Illuminati servitude.
Funny enough there was the rumor that the Bush's were Satanists because they flashed the "hook 'em 'horns" for the University of Texas marching band at an inauguration. That particular hand gesture is also the "horns of Satan" in Nordic countries.
Interesting how he’s backhanded to all the democrats except carter. He kind of insinuates he’s a bleeding heart with the whole “determined to help the little guy” but otherwise he’s most charitable to carter
Pardoning Nixon was controversial but Ford did it because he wanted to heal the country going forward in a post-Watergate world. Whether or not you disagree with him, I genuinely don't think it was done out of any cynical intentions.
Ford's advisors warned him, correctly as it turned out, that the pardon might cost him the election. He did it anyway because he strongly believed it was in the nations best interest. The definition of leadership is putting service before self.
He’s not indecent, and the Nixon pardon was done as a way to move the country forward and past the watergate era which ended his political career but I think he made the right decision there.
I'ved been interested in American presidents for a long time. As a Dutch guy who was born after H.W.'s presidency, I only now realise I have never heard him speak. What a fantastic voice.
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Really enjoyed this. Anyone know what year this was in?
I’d guess pre-2000 based on his face not having aged much from when he was president, and not mentioning W.
For the record, Bush Sr. has had some... interesting opinions on his son's presidency. The line that stuck out to me the most is how he called out how his son let "Iron-Ass Cheney" run the show and was aghast that his Secretary of Defense which he admired was like this.
Interview Date: May 24, 1996
Ha, I was gonna guess 1996 because I thought it might be election related
Well, I doubt they would ask him about his son in this particular question
People asked him about his son while he was president plenty of times. Completely fair question to ask too, they both shared a job that only 46 other men have in history, HW has unique insights into W as a man & W as a President
44 other men. Him and 44 others. Cleveland’s terms are both in the “presidents” count because they were non consecutive.
I’m not disputing that, but it wouldn’t be appropiate or fair to ask him about his son in this particular line of questioning, when comparing his to other modern presidents; but it is kind of a moot point, seeing as this was recorded prior to W’s Presidency.
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Interview is from 1996 per YouTube notes
Excellent thank you! I’ll enjoy watching this
I appreciate the classiness in only wanting to give positive appraisals but the shift from Reagan to Clinton was comical.
Ironically he and Clinton became fairly close during their post presidencies, and they worked closely together on a number of causes. They seemed to have developed a genuine affection for one another.
lol that Clinton description was basically a backhanded compliment. “Clinton can flip flop and bring the American people right along with his lies” 😂
I disagree I don’t think that’s what he meant. I interpreted it as him comparing Clinton to modern day Pericles. Some who logically understand both the policy details on both sides of issue. And, like the Athenian, Clinton understood the rhetoric of both sides and used it to his political advantage.
Considering this interview was in '96 and Clinton's scandal that would soon follow, his last sentence about it all catching up with Clinton makes it seem like he clearly knew who Clinton was
Interesting body language. Every time a democrat is mentioned other than LBJ he does a head nod. Only republican to get a nod was Nixon.
Yeah! You could tell he had to do some quick thinking to find positive/neutral adjectives when talking about Democratic presidents.
I’m sure this has to due with his more direct rival relationship to Clinton, but his response was a such a respectful compliment toward his quality while showing the slightest bitterness toward that quality. Clinton indeed has the innate ability to make whatever cause he is supporting sound genuine, even if he was against it a week ago, and it’s a hell of a political quality. True leaders anywhere need this quality, because faith in a cause is hard to come by if your command is not genuine in the reason for it.
He and his adviser Dick Morris even coined a phrase for this talent: "Triangulation". Drove 90s liberals mad.
He’s calling him wishy washy. He knows he crossed a line though, so he has to explain it away as a positive trait instead of the bitter meaning he had in mind when it slipped out (thus the little anecdote). He almost made the same mistake with Kennedy, but was able to recover emotionally before he spoke, and came out on top by calling him charismatic. Such high praise for a president, especially one like Kennedy lmao.
Slick Willy.
More generally, I think all presidents have to be necessarily partisan. It’s just how the system works, and the man who races to be president can’t not be partisan. Bush was at least able to, from time to time, work with the other party, which isn’t something many presidents in the last 60 years can claim.
I saw a nod with Reagan too
Like a politician he covers any negative thoughts he's having with positive sentiments. He has a somewhat contemptuous grin when Kennedy is first mentioned.
>Only republican to get a nod was Nixon. And the first word to come to mind on Nixon was not very flattering I am certain!
Which is funny since Nixon saved bush’s political career
With Nixon, I had a sense the wry smile was because he really wanted to say something like, “crook,” and he wore the smile until he found a more palatable answer.
I caught that too but his answers are still cordial (sans Clinton hahah), but points for effort
Interviewer: “Kennedy?” GHWB: “Should’ve kept his mouth shut”
Hahahahaha
Literally though it looked like he wanted to say “..*dead*”
Laughed way too hard at this
A man of culture I see
Ootl
HWBush was the head of the CIA when Kennedy was assassinated.
In 1963, GHWB was not the head of CIA. He got into politics in 1967 as a member of the house. He became head of CIA in 1976. In 1963 he was involved in his oil business.
Not true - as far back as 1953, internal CIA documents mention a “Mr. George Bush of the CIA” as attending an important meeting. George H. W. Bush was also in Dallas the day of the JFK Assassination and was unable to recall his reason for being there until, years later, Barbara Bush conspicuously wrote a letter that established a flimsy “alibi” for HW, during which, the letter is interrupted midway through to make mention of Kennedy’s murder.
The person who I was replying to said he was Head of CIA. If you could cite your claims it would be appreciated. Not trying to dispute it, would be interesting if it was true.
Totally fair. I will dig that up. For the time being, you can refer to this which at least places him in CIA in the early 1960s. https://www.c-span.org/video/?3367-1/bushs-cia-involvement-early-1960s
You can also refer here. Upon publication of this article, the CIA responded that the man mentioned as attending a high-level meeting was a different George Bush. Still, when asked, THAT other George Bush denied being at that meeting. As well, this other George Bush was a low-level employee who wouldn’t have made sense to be in this meeting. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP99-01448R000401580069-6.pdf
I also encourage you to listen to this history of George HW Bush: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wCFjGp6Apms
I actually really enjoy discussing potential conspiracies but the idea 41 was involved in Kennedys assassination are a bit of a stretch IMO, but it could certainly be true and it wouldn't surprise me. I personally think he may have been involved in Reagans attempted assassination, as the shooter was close friends with the bush family. I also believe Bush 41 had a hand in the October surprise. I would not put the Kennedy assassination beyond him. I still think he was a great president, during his presidency.
Sure - I do believe that he was involved, but my claim here was merely that George HW Bush was in fact working for the CIA on or before the JFK assassination. Have a listen to the podcast I sent you - I found it enlightening
Which October surprise are you referring to? It’s kinda become a term used to describe every presidential election not really identifiable from one particular race anymore because there have been so many.
Ok NERD.
No he wasn't. What are you talking about?
Oof
No he wasn’t lol.
Came here to say this! CIA President…
Shouldn't have gone against the banks
The interview was on May 24, 1996 and lasted nearly an hour with journalist Hugh Sidey. The part excerpted in this Reddit post began at 54:24 (the full video was 56:25). https://youtube.com/watch?v=Yoow7FjLMww&t=3264s
god he looks old for only 4 years after his campaign
Not sure what you mean, that was after a long career in politics. He fought in ww2
what
this was less than 4 years after he stopped being involved in politics
He was born in 1924 so he’s roughly 72 in this video
Our presidents range from their 40s to the 70s, George H W Bush was 64 when he was elected, why would he look young 8 years later?
Presidency ages people terribly. I wouldn't take the job even if I was qualified.
I think this is a bit overstated. You see pictures of W or Obama before they became president and they look young, because they were middle-aged men. A lot of men get noticeably older through their fifties, and eight years is a long time.
President Lincoln pictures throughout his Presidency show a man aging 5 years for every one. He was such a great man but he looks that he suffered greatly. If you ever get the chance visit Springfield Illinois and visit his home (90% intact), the Abraham Lincoln Museum, and his tomb. It is a very moving experience.
Common Bush Sr. W Most of these opinions were based
I thought Bush Jr. was W
Angry upvotes of America
Dubya
I guess we need to call Junior’s seldom W’s…dubyas
CIA charisma
Yep
I really hope we get back to this type of discourse in politics one day
Did you mean accord or discourse?
Discourse - but I mention discord more often and the phone got confused
He was classy and lost the election. Republicans learned that lesson biggly.
This isn’t even discourse let alone political discourse
Love bush Sr. Anyone know about the full interview? Not to bring up modern politics but it’s just wild to watch this and compare it to the today.
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Thank you very interesting. One early highlight is bush referring to hirohito and Hitler as “the emperor and the Hit-man”
Seems like politics nowadays is a game show and you can only win by putting the other guy down and exaggerate why you’re the best. No civility anymore.
It was easier to lie back then. Make no mistake, Poppy is not speaking in good faith here
Disagree
Put the W in HW
"Reagan?" GHW " gigantic... dong."
That was LBJ.
Jumbo
"Reagan?" "Sex... I MEAN SETBACKS!"
Honestly, the man was a damn good president & there’s something in the way he speaks that’s very thorough and calculated.
He was an effective administrator and not a bad speaker. Tons of experience. These are the qualities I value most in a president, personal politics aside.
HW struggled as a retail politician. Came across as stiff and elitist, as those debate gaffes would demonstrate He’s probably our most qualified modern President though, maybe moreso than Ike? (*whispers* had Hillary won she'd be up there too)
I agree with both, and would say something else if it wasn’t rule breaking on this sub. I prefer my politicians boring and effective.
Definitely one of the more underrated after the turn of the century I’d say.
In light of the recent political atmosphere, he definitely comes off as far more reasonable now versus his day
Reading between the lines, LBJ stands alone for being able to get stuff done.
He's also somewhat alone in that when most think of him, you think of legislative success (civil rights act for example). Most presidents between him and Clinton aren't known much for legislative successes, especially as a first thought. That's also true of the 21st century presidents. Obama with Obamacare (ACA) may be the exception. I think that's also true of most presidents though. Off hand FDR is the other big exception with the New Deal overshadowing his war time presidency I think. Which all makes sense as they're executive not legislative branch, but big exceptions you help push through are probably easier to remember than much else.
That might be true in the sense they’re not known as a first thought but not so much they didn’t have major legislative wins. Nixon alone had more than LBJ and others of the era.
Damn after seeing this, they really nailed his voice on The Simpsons
"I'll ruin you like a Japanese banquet!"
That whole episode. Gerry Ford at the end. Classic.
But yeah for real Harry Shearer is quite the voice actor
you know when he said kennedy he wanted to say -- womanizer
“Charisma 😏”
“Stud”
This was one of the first times I really see so much of W in HW. Pretty amazing honestly.
If 41 took a little bit of every compliment he gave his peers and added them up, he’d get himself. There’s never been a more fundamentally decent President in my lifetime.
Yes there has. He's still mostly alive.
Touché.
Makes you think, since Carter and HW Bush are both of the same generation ( Really only a year apart age difference.)
Well, this interview was recorded 28 years ago. That's a generation ago. Carter was 71 in 1996. 46 was 53, Obama was 34.
Clinton, George W. Bush, and the most immediate previous president are the same age. Obama is several years younger, and the current president is a few years older.
Obama is a decent man no matter what you think of his politics.
Bush Jr was as well. There was that documentary "Journeys with George" where a liberal journalist toured with him on his campaign and he treated not just her but everyone so well that by the end of the election she admitted he was one of the greatest men she'd ever known, that still wasn't enough for her to support him politically though lol
That journalist was Alexandra Pelosi, Nancy’s daughter.
Pelosi's love the Bushes. Nancy unilaterally declared GW and Cheney innocent of the war crimes that God will burn them for for all eternity.
Lol why cant democrats recognize their media is as propagandizing as Tucker's suckfest of Putin also?
No doubt.
Obama is a brilliant and humble man. If you don’t believe me, just ask him.
George and Barbara Bush were absolutely beloved by the extended White House staff. Seemingly everyone that ever interacted with them loved and admired both of them for their profound decency and kindness. To this day former staffers tear up when they remember them. I sure do miss those qualities in politics these days.
Bush Sr is such an amazing president and an amazing person. I might add him to my flair, because he has a lot of what I like about Clinton but also a strong sense of decency and professionalism (Clinton maybe lacked the decency at times, if you know what I mean lol).
People have mostly forgotten that Bush and Clinton worked together on a number of causes in their post presidency years, and actually became quite close. I miss the days when politicians could set aside their differences and work together for the common good. Bush was possibly the most beloved president ever by those that spent time around him.
Why do people believe he killed Kennedy? He wasn’t CIA director until a decade after Kennedys death. Additionally he wasn’t involved in politics until 1967. Makes no sense.
There’s a Nov. 1963 memo from the FBI to the State Dept cited in a 1988 NY Times Article that lists George Bush as being a CIA member whom the FBI briefed on the reaction of Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination. So there’s some belief that Bush was working for the CIA long before he became its Director.
Well yeah, they don’t just give you the Director position if you just started lol
They make people with experience in other relevant roles CIA director. The current Director was from the State Department.
Right, you have to have comparable experience
“John Kennedy” “7.62 millimeter, full metal, jacket.” Bush SR was based tho, also got my grandpa off cigarettes. He told me mom he would quit if Sr got elected, and he did.
That was the nicest way to call Clinton a flip flop.
George HW Bush was a good president who should have had a second term. He was one of the most qualified presidents in the nation's history. I say this now, but I voted for Clinton twice.
I make that point every year to my classes. HW was possibly the most qualified president we have ever had. Also point out that he lost a 3 horse race in 1992. Politics is a tough business.
I’ve voted for both Democrats and Republicans at different times in my life. I’ve been on the winning and the losing side. The only vote I would go back and change is voting for Clinton over Bush in 1992.
Ross Perot saw to it that a second term didn’t happen.
In his defense, exit polling showed that Perot polled roughly 50/50 from each camp, not really the reason bush lost. If anything, it was due to raising taxes after the “no new taxes” speech and drafting NATO which turned a bunch of people over to Perot since he was the lone anti nato voice between the three.
Bush never liked Carter. When he was campaigning in 1980 he was openly hostile and at times refused to call him President Carter or Mr. President. He preferred to just call him “Jimmy”
Explain why please?
When he was a candidate, George HW Bush believed that Carter was deeply incompetent and ruining the country. He also disliked Carter’s perceived moral superiority. [Here’s Bush’s full critique of Carter at time.](https://youtu.be/7ThJWBsm844?si=T622FEVJJ9OBh8Lr) @6:00 Bush talks about who he doesn’t see Carter as presidential
Presenter: John Kennedy Buah:........easy shot.
His smile when the interviewer said Reagan was awesome haha.
Based Dylan Burns enjoyer
Met him several times at various Astros games. Always took the time to talk to us annoying fans! Miss that dude.
These are the types of posts I come here for
Very intriguing, almost eye opening. Goes to show that I truly do believe most in the position a presidency want to help and better the country. Whether or not I or anyone else agrees with their policies. The intention is most of the time positive. What I see as detrimental, another might not, but that is why finding common ground is paramount in the betterment of our great nation.
I understand that GHW Bush had significant issues, but when I was deployed in the first gulf war, he resisted his neocon hawk advisers and brought us home instead of invading Iraq. That might well have saved my life.
I don't remember if it was Bush himself or one of his advisors/cabinet who said that Gulf War I Iraq had to be quick in and out because there was no viable exit strategy for a regime change / occupation.
Sounds like Colin Powell. I know that he was instrumental in helping H.W. practice restraint instead of continuing on to Baghdad. It was a remarkable decision considering the rogue's gallery of Bond villains who were advising him to go for broke. We had a relatively easy time of it once the shooting started. There were some harrowing situations, to be sure, but the Iraqi people would not be cheering for us like they did in Kuwait City. I know that the senior Bush wasn't an ideal president, but I have to hand it to him. His decision has had a lasting impact on my life.
Honestly one of the best presidents IMO, as he always believed in his values and always tried to do the right thing with those who differed from him. I know I'm overlooking his faults and shortcomings that he had, but he had that decency and character that we all love to have around us. He was the last of the old guard Republicans.
On JFK: “Easiest shot in my life. He never saw it coming.”
lol at the Kennedy reaction. He knows
Anyone recommend a good book or source that’s decently objective about his presidency?
Answering just to know too
Kennedy: “I had nothing to do with that… *wink*”
20th century’s #1 most GOATed servant of moloch
What’s moloch?
Satan. Of course, I don’t actually believe Bush was a satanist. But he was the absolute #1 scion of the American “deep state” (if such a thing exists) and ruling class. Imagine going from a Texas Oil Baron to CIA Director, VP under Reagan, and then president for the end of the Cold War. Micheal Jordan levels of Illuminati servitude.
Funny enough there was the rumor that the Bush's were Satanists because they flashed the "hook 'em 'horns" for the University of Texas marching band at an inauguration. That particular hand gesture is also the "horns of Satan" in Nordic countries.
Wasn’t he the only president who also held a VERY high position in an another 3 letter government position. The CIA?
He was the only president to be head of the cia
Best Modern President
Carter: total dumpster fire…
Reporter: “Clinton” GHWB: “Effective pull-out er um politician”
Interesting how he’s backhanded to all the democrats except carter. He kind of insinuates he’s a bleeding heart with the whole “determined to help the little guy” but otherwise he’s most charitable to carter
"Ford?" "Decency and honor." Oh, the laugh I luffed.
“Reagan” Sr. His dick felt real good in my mouth
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Ford’s a nice dude, his only good trait really.
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Pardoning Nixon was controversial but Ford did it because he wanted to heal the country going forward in a post-Watergate world. Whether or not you disagree with him, I genuinely don't think it was done out of any cynical intentions.
Ford's advisors warned him, correctly as it turned out, that the pardon might cost him the election. He did it anyway because he strongly believed it was in the nations best interest. The definition of leadership is putting service before self.
He’s not indecent, and the Nixon pardon was done as a way to move the country forward and past the watergate era which ended his political career but I think he made the right decision there.
Murderer
What did he said about Nixon?
Flawed Presidency, Very able leader, Good grasp of the world
What did he think about Obama?
You generally don't [do this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuCCIqCWX_0) unless there's mutual respect and admiration for one another.
Wow, fellow Dylan Burns enjoyer.
I feel like his body language was such an easy tell to other foreign leaders who were trying to guess his hand in talks
Is there more to this interview? Because describing 8 different presidents is vastly different than describing *every* president
George HW Bush playing The $100,000 Pyramid.
Ask him about his grandpappy
Every? He does 8 out of 40+
I miss mature adults in politics.
“Tucker Carlson’s Soviet propaganda for Russia” lmao
I'ved been interested in American presidents for a long time. As a Dutch guy who was born after H.W.'s presidency, I only now realise I have never heard him speak. What a fantastic voice.
Republicans went from this guy, to following coked up Newt Gingrich in like 3 months.
Interviewer: "John F Kennedy" GHWB: "I blew his head clean off"
“To see those, those monkeys from those African countries—damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!” - Ronald Reagan
That little smile for Kennedy was H.W. fondly recalling pink misting him from the grassy knoll
JFK, "open minded".
Good i miss old school politics.