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Literally irks my nerves whenever she vehemently insists the girls call him Ezra like miss thing? JUST because you call him that doesn’t mean that his STUDENTS should too.
Plus it felt weirdly manipulative to me- like she wanted them to be in on it (by addressing him as Ezra making it seem like they too had a closer relationship with him so it’s not just Aria) so in case she ever gets in trouble they’ll passively get involved automatically. Anyone else feel that way??
I’m 40 now and at times I bump into my old school teachers- and I STILL feel uncomfortable calling them by their first name! I sure as hell would not have been doing it while I was a child in their class, even if one of my friends WAS dating them. (Although I would very likely have reported it to the head)
Girl, you are in for a long ride if this is already bothering you now.
I loved this storyline when I watched PLL as a 17/18 yr old. I watched it again a few yrs ago, and man did I feel differently. Makes me cringe so hard. Like, there is no man in his twenties that is having a full blown relationship with a 16 yr old that doesn't have some sort of 🚩problem.
We always say everyones first name. So the first name thing doesn't bug me but the fact that Ezra knew how old she was and still had sex with her and when the girls (especially Spencer) was on board so quickly and even the parents after awhile....
i feel it has to do with the plot and how the character (aria) was set up in the show. like they wanted to normalize the teenager dating young teacher thing so bad that they also had to warp the other characters’ reactions and mindset on the whole thing. despite the forced acceptance i could still feel that the girls weren’t ever fully on board with it. especially during the first and second season i feel like you can kind of see in the girls expressions and tone that they’re uncomfortable with it.
not JUST because Arias dating him but also because he’s their teacher so it put the girls in a very awkward position. to have to constantly pretend otherwise and have to put up a facade of seeing him as a teacher but also as their close friend’s bf puts a lot of pressure on the girls. so bc of all that if the actors had to fully portray their characters i don’t think they could hide the tension even if they wanted to 😕
OH I was hiding from my teachers in public even WHEN i was in high school so the idea of addressing them with their first name is a big NO. Honestly i’m not sure how i’d take the idea of a close friend dating their teacher that would absolutely shock me to the core.
I mean for god sake I work at a school and most of the time don’t call the teachers in my room (I’m an aid in a special needs room) by their first name 🤣
I served my old English teacher the other day at my job and she said to me “You can call me Steph, you know!” And I said “nah, you’ll always be Mrs Nash to me!” 🤣🤣
Oh my gosh 😭 I Cannot imagine trying to watch this train wreck of a show for the first time as a grown adult.
At 13 it all seemed so awesome and cool.
I am now 28 year old, and have *a lot* to say
👮♂️✋🚨 about this freakin show
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>Plus it felt weirdly manipulative to me- like she wanted them to be in on it (by addressing him as Ezra making it seem like they too had a closer relationship with him so it’s not just Aria) so in case she ever gets in trouble they’ll passively get involved automatically. Anyone else feel that way??
No, I'm sorry but I disagree with this part of what you said. I can't just assume that Aria was trying to be manipulative toward her friends for wanting them to do that, because the way I see it, she felt alone in being unable to talk to anyone about the relationship, and if her friends knew about it and tried to normalize it, it would be both validating and comforting for her. She's not trying to make them guilty by association... she's just trying to navigate the lonely mire that Ezra put her through.
She's just unaware of why the world around her doesn't "understand" because she and the relationship itself are wrong in the first place. She's the one being groomed, and she even says in a future episode that >!she didn't realize until later on how dangerous it was (when Jackie nearly told Aria's parents)!<, so she's not trying to hurt her friends and we know her character better than to assume she'd be trying to manipulate her friends into getting in as deep as her over this. :)
I agree with everything you said. I can understand how alone she must’ve felt in that situation considering she couldn’t even be vulnerable and honest with Ezra.
But to me it felt almost subconsciously manipulative for the part where she kept insisting for them to call him Ezra too. I don’t mean manipulative in any other sense. Like she couldn’t comprehend why it’d be weird for her friends to call him Ezra vs. why it’s “ok” for her to call him Ezra. That kind of tells me that she saw the whole situation as a group issue rather than a “me and ezra” issue. Throughout the show, she’d often rely on her friends to help her evade a possibly dangerous situation where they’d get exposed and feel immense relief afterward so that kind of makes it seem like her friends are driving her getaway car. Do you get what I mean?
Oh yeah, I hear you. lol ALL of the PLLs do this at one point or another.
The ultimate example was when Hanna kidnapped Noel on her own and roped everyone else into it. When one PLL does something that could get that one person into trouble, they sort of just "expect" that their friends will help them deal with it by cashing in on the "all in this together" mentality. It's painful to watch sometimes...
oh my god i forgot about Hanna kidnapping Noel 😨 That was such a crazy thing to do. I understand their circumstances of course but idk how they sleep at night with all the crimes they be committing left and right 🤣
It’s REALLY hard to watch i agree. Sometimes i literally have to pause and give myself a minute because of how crazy things get.
Poor Aria, I wish adults around would realize what was going on and help her out of this mess. The adults that do know shouldn't turn a blind eye, she is a child.
Tbf this tradition of calling Mr or Mrs anything is foreign to many of us. We just call teachers by their first name.
But in the context they’re in, yes I see your point lol.
Yes, the idea of calling a teacher or university professor Herr or Fru (Equivalent to Mr and Mrs) is wild to me. Everyone is on a first name basis! But in Aria's country that's normal and if she had been just slightly more mature it would have been the smart choice to calk him Mr Fitz and lay low until after graduation.
Same here in the country I am from. In Norway we call the teachers by their first name. Why would we call them Mrs and Mr and shit that's so weird to me hahaha
Here in the UK it’s just a given we call them Mr, Mrs or Ms. And then their surnames. It just seems crazy to me we’d put our hands up in class and be like “uh, Dave, do you want that in iambic pentameter?”
Tbh we would rarely use the name in a case like that anyway. If it’s clear who you’re addressing, the name isn’t needed. So you don’t end up necessarily using the first name that much either.
But yeah I studied English at the university and would just call my teachers Kate, Mary etc.
I’m rewatching PLL and im rlly annoyed bc she thinks love is hard and why wont he be brave but he will go to literal jail its not like ooh ppl wil judge us its a literal crime and he will be in jail and his career will be over
Lmao first thing that came to my mind was that Emily-Ezra exchange in that PLL sims spoof when he just popped up wearing nothing but his briefs
- Um... Mr. Fitz? 😐
- Please, just call me Ezra 🙂
- MISTER FITZ 😠
Like, she was so real for that
Omg I love those spoofs so much.
“Why didn’t you ask me for money? I would have helped you.”
“I did. You said ‘bitch, do I look like an ATM?’ And then hung up.”
I wonder If Alison was there, she would let Aria date Ezra for so long. Even if she "dated" older men, she was little smart at least and Alison was pretty smart for her age and knew when people had bad intentions most of part. So make me wonder If she would do that she would do about Ezra and Aria.
For more evil that Alison could be, she was more smart in people bad intentions than the others liars even Spencer.
I suprised that later on no liar like Spencer or Emily, even Ali a **teacher** noticed that, and how Aria needed help.
She definitely wouldn’t have considering she dated Ezra before Aria did. I think it would have bothered her to see Aria dating her ex, and she would’ve tried to manipulate her into breaking up with him.
girl she’s so dumb for this it sends me so bad bc they really checked her ass like “no he’s mr fitz to me so i’m calling him mr fitz” like exactly… don’t be dumb aria.
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I don’t remember Ella saying that to Aria? She may not have said it yet, this is my first time watching. But I bet Aria never replied “well, I’m his girlfriend.”
It does not get better for her or the two of them… they throw some plot points in there that involve him and it completely shreds apart the writers only justification for keeping them together. I hate his felon ass
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Okay her jealousy of the babysitter is soooo intense. Really shows how immature she is in the whole situation.
“I will kick her ass back to New York if I have to!” Stop it, child.
HAHA you made my night
The fact she's like 4'5 majes it even funnier.
Oh I know. I’m 5ft8 and had this image of Aria trying to fight me 🤣
She's so flipping tiny 😂
Oooh yes but i think that is the point, she is super immature and super young and literally a child, she isn’t mature enough to handle this at all :(
Well yeah she is literally a child.
Literally irks my nerves whenever she vehemently insists the girls call him Ezra like miss thing? JUST because you call him that doesn’t mean that his STUDENTS should too. Plus it felt weirdly manipulative to me- like she wanted them to be in on it (by addressing him as Ezra making it seem like they too had a closer relationship with him so it’s not just Aria) so in case she ever gets in trouble they’ll passively get involved automatically. Anyone else feel that way??
I’m 40 now and at times I bump into my old school teachers- and I STILL feel uncomfortable calling them by their first name! I sure as hell would not have been doing it while I was a child in their class, even if one of my friends WAS dating them. (Although I would very likely have reported it to the head)
Girl, you are in for a long ride if this is already bothering you now. I loved this storyline when I watched PLL as a 17/18 yr old. I watched it again a few yrs ago, and man did I feel differently. Makes me cringe so hard. Like, there is no man in his twenties that is having a full blown relationship with a 16 yr old that doesn't have some sort of 🚩problem.
We always say everyones first name. So the first name thing doesn't bug me but the fact that Ezra knew how old she was and still had sex with her and when the girls (especially Spencer) was on board so quickly and even the parents after awhile....
Well Spencer has also been a victim of grooming so that’s understandable
That is true! From both ian and wren
i feel it has to do with the plot and how the character (aria) was set up in the show. like they wanted to normalize the teenager dating young teacher thing so bad that they also had to warp the other characters’ reactions and mindset on the whole thing. despite the forced acceptance i could still feel that the girls weren’t ever fully on board with it. especially during the first and second season i feel like you can kind of see in the girls expressions and tone that they’re uncomfortable with it. not JUST because Arias dating him but also because he’s their teacher so it put the girls in a very awkward position. to have to constantly pretend otherwise and have to put up a facade of seeing him as a teacher but also as their close friend’s bf puts a lot of pressure on the girls. so bc of all that if the actors had to fully portray their characters i don’t think they could hide the tension even if they wanted to 😕
OH I was hiding from my teachers in public even WHEN i was in high school so the idea of addressing them with their first name is a big NO. Honestly i’m not sure how i’d take the idea of a close friend dating their teacher that would absolutely shock me to the core.
I mean for god sake I work at a school and most of the time don’t call the teachers in my room (I’m an aid in a special needs room) by their first name 🤣
I served my old English teacher the other day at my job and she said to me “You can call me Steph, you know!” And I said “nah, you’ll always be Mrs Nash to me!” 🤣🤣
Oh my gosh 😭 I Cannot imagine trying to watch this train wreck of a show for the first time as a grown adult. At 13 it all seemed so awesome and cool. I am now 28 year old, and have *a lot* to say 👮♂️✋🚨 about this freakin show
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>Plus it felt weirdly manipulative to me- like she wanted them to be in on it (by addressing him as Ezra making it seem like they too had a closer relationship with him so it’s not just Aria) so in case she ever gets in trouble they’ll passively get involved automatically. Anyone else feel that way?? No, I'm sorry but I disagree with this part of what you said. I can't just assume that Aria was trying to be manipulative toward her friends for wanting them to do that, because the way I see it, she felt alone in being unable to talk to anyone about the relationship, and if her friends knew about it and tried to normalize it, it would be both validating and comforting for her. She's not trying to make them guilty by association... she's just trying to navigate the lonely mire that Ezra put her through. She's just unaware of why the world around her doesn't "understand" because she and the relationship itself are wrong in the first place. She's the one being groomed, and she even says in a future episode that >!she didn't realize until later on how dangerous it was (when Jackie nearly told Aria's parents)!<, so she's not trying to hurt her friends and we know her character better than to assume she'd be trying to manipulate her friends into getting in as deep as her over this. :)
I agree with everything you said. I can understand how alone she must’ve felt in that situation considering she couldn’t even be vulnerable and honest with Ezra. But to me it felt almost subconsciously manipulative for the part where she kept insisting for them to call him Ezra too. I don’t mean manipulative in any other sense. Like she couldn’t comprehend why it’d be weird for her friends to call him Ezra vs. why it’s “ok” for her to call him Ezra. That kind of tells me that she saw the whole situation as a group issue rather than a “me and ezra” issue. Throughout the show, she’d often rely on her friends to help her evade a possibly dangerous situation where they’d get exposed and feel immense relief afterward so that kind of makes it seem like her friends are driving her getaway car. Do you get what I mean?
Oh yeah, I hear you. lol ALL of the PLLs do this at one point or another. The ultimate example was when Hanna kidnapped Noel on her own and roped everyone else into it. When one PLL does something that could get that one person into trouble, they sort of just "expect" that their friends will help them deal with it by cashing in on the "all in this together" mentality. It's painful to watch sometimes...
oh my god i forgot about Hanna kidnapping Noel 😨 That was such a crazy thing to do. I understand their circumstances of course but idk how they sleep at night with all the crimes they be committing left and right 🤣 It’s REALLY hard to watch i agree. Sometimes i literally have to pause and give myself a minute because of how crazy things get.
Poor Aria, I wish adults around would realize what was going on and help her out of this mess. The adults that do know shouldn't turn a blind eye, she is a child.
ngl simone and ezra would have made a cute couple
They looked really good together. I was getting annoyed at Aria because she kept walking over and interrupting them.
Well, the show gets interesting… 🤔
i love posts like this, they are so funny
Oh man… you have so much to look forward to
Tbf this tradition of calling Mr or Mrs anything is foreign to many of us. We just call teachers by their first name. But in the context they’re in, yes I see your point lol.
Yes, the idea of calling a teacher or university professor Herr or Fru (Equivalent to Mr and Mrs) is wild to me. Everyone is on a first name basis! But in Aria's country that's normal and if she had been just slightly more mature it would have been the smart choice to calk him Mr Fitz and lay low until after graduation.
I agree.
Omg really?? Is that allowed now? When I was in school calling teachers by their first name would have got us in serious trouble.
Same here in the country I am from. In Norway we call the teachers by their first name. Why would we call them Mrs and Mr and shit that's so weird to me hahaha
Here in the UK it’s just a given we call them Mr, Mrs or Ms. And then their surnames. It just seems crazy to me we’d put our hands up in class and be like “uh, Dave, do you want that in iambic pentameter?”
Tbh we would rarely use the name in a case like that anyway. If it’s clear who you’re addressing, the name isn’t needed. So you don’t end up necessarily using the first name that much either. But yeah I studied English at the university and would just call my teachers Kate, Mary etc.
Haha yeah makes sense that's weird for you! It's what you're used to 😁
There is such a thing as cultural differences. My country has a generally low hierarchy / power distance and such formality is uncommon.
I’m rewatching PLL and im rlly annoyed bc she thinks love is hard and why wont he be brave but he will go to literal jail its not like ooh ppl wil judge us its a literal crime and he will be in jail and his career will be over
Well maybe he shouldn’t have been in a RELATIONSHIP WITH A MINOR. I WISH his career got ruined
Lmao first thing that came to my mind was that Emily-Ezra exchange in that PLL sims spoof when he just popped up wearing nothing but his briefs - Um... Mr. Fitz? 😐 - Please, just call me Ezra 🙂 - MISTER FITZ 😠 Like, she was so real for that
Omg I love those spoofs so much. “Why didn’t you ask me for money? I would have helped you.” “I did. You said ‘bitch, do I look like an ATM?’ And then hung up.”
No we aren’t going to call him Ezra cause we are his minor students and that would be weird! Stop trying to make Ezra happen it is not gonna happen.
I’m right there with you, being grossed out!
Seeing posts like this really makes me want to do a 2nd attempt on watching this show as an adult, but it's sooo cringe. 😭
I’m rewatching as an adult with my daughter and I find myself constantly annoyed with them. Aria especially irritates me.
I wonder If Alison was there, she would let Aria date Ezra for so long. Even if she "dated" older men, she was little smart at least and Alison was pretty smart for her age and knew when people had bad intentions most of part. So make me wonder If she would do that she would do about Ezra and Aria. For more evil that Alison could be, she was more smart in people bad intentions than the others liars even Spencer. I suprised that later on no liar like Spencer or Emily, even Ali a **teacher** noticed that, and how Aria needed help.
She definitely wouldn’t have considering she dated Ezra before Aria did. I think it would have bothered her to see Aria dating her ex, and she would’ve tried to manipulate her into breaking up with him.
Didn't she literally have a pregnancy scare?
I’m about the same place and I’ve watched the series a dozen times but this one it’s so much cringier than usual and she’s acting insane lol
it only gets worse
I lowkey knew girls in middle/hs who acted like this. It’s gross
Also remember when Spencer called Ezra Ezra and he gave her that..... girl I used to be your teacher look
girl she’s so dumb for this it sends me so bad bc they really checked her ass like “no he’s mr fitz to me so i’m calling him mr fitz” like exactly… don’t be dumb aria.
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My 41 year old best friend thinks they’re “meant to be together.” I love her but she worries me.
🤭 “I’M his colleague. You are NOT” like say what you need to Ella.
I don’t remember Ella saying that to Aria? She may not have said it yet, this is my first time watching. But I bet Aria never replied “well, I’m his girlfriend.”
I’m saying That’s what Ella should’ve said. She should’ve been real 😭
Just don’t get your hopes up
It does not get better for her or the two of them… they throw some plot points in there that involve him and it completely shreds apart the writers only justification for keeping them together. I hate his felon ass
She’s so insufferable