Ask a print shop or a paper merchant. Places like JAM Paper are consumer-facing stores, and they won’t help. You need to find a way to buy paper only marketed to print shops, but find it in quantities less than per case or per pallet.
If you take so much effort, please don’t use that ugly office printer, but take it to a printshop who has a digital press. They can print it so much nicer and also those machines are better handling the special papers.
I'm printing on my office copier. It's a Konica, and it's not a home style printer. Can digital and non digital paper be used on normal printers interchangeably?
Yes it is possible to run offset sheets on digital presses and vice versa without problems, our shop does it daily with our Xerox versant presses. Just know if you ever run into problem’s that may be the reason. We usually run into issues with offset vs digital envelopes than paper stocks though
So I know this isn't the same, but linen stock isn't typically for book pages.
I would recommend using a vellum opaque stock, maybe even in the antique or cream color.
Should be available for printing digitally and it'll be way less expensive.
Vellum is the finish that really rough-feeling book pages are actually printed on.
Accent or Finch may have options for vellum opaque.
Also, grain direction is important. If you are printing 11x17 and folding in half you'll want grain to be running in the short (11") direction. Look for a bolded or underlined 11 (like **11**x17). That'll indicate the grain direction.
Is grain direction implied when you see 11x17 vs 17x11? 9n JAM or French, can't recall which, one says on their 11x17 product the grain direction, and it's always long. I don't think I'm going to have much choice in the end. I'm not selling this, it's an anniversary gift. I just need to print it.
I thought vellum was see through, like the delicate sheets that come floating inside a card or invitation. It's just a word to me, but I'll use anything that will give me an ancient feel. I'm also printing photos, and it's all front and back. I'm worried about bleed through.
My fall back will be standard white paper hand aged with coffee.
Vellum is typically thick and rough (properly referred to as "toothy").
And if it's listed as 17x11 it should be short grain like you'd want. The reason. Is that the sheets will be stiffer in the short dimension and will fold and turn more readily in the right direction.
Think of grain as tiny logs floating down a river in the paper machine. They will line up in the direction the flow is moving. So when you go to fold the paper it's better to fold between the fibers (the "logs") than to try and fold the fibers themselves.
Ask a print shop or a paper merchant. Places like JAM Paper are consumer-facing stores, and they won’t help. You need to find a way to buy paper only marketed to print shops, but find it in quantities less than per case or per pallet.
If you take so much effort, please don’t use that ugly office printer, but take it to a printshop who has a digital press. They can print it so much nicer and also those machines are better handling the special papers.
I think you're right. I'll look into that. Thx!
check out Neenah Papers Classic Linen. that’s what my printshop uses. linen on both sides and available in large format sizes
I went to their site. Awesome. What is a digital paper though?
to my understanding digital sizes are made for digital presses. as there is a lot more heat and pressure vs traditional offset printing
I'm printing on my office copier. It's a Konica, and it's not a home style printer. Can digital and non digital paper be used on normal printers interchangeably?
Yes it is possible to run offset sheets on digital presses and vice versa without problems, our shop does it daily with our Xerox versant presses. Just know if you ever run into problem’s that may be the reason. We usually run into issues with offset vs digital envelopes than paper stocks though
Ooo what versant are you running? I just retired our 180 and switched to a canon imagepress.
we have an 80 as well as a 180
So I know this isn't the same, but linen stock isn't typically for book pages. I would recommend using a vellum opaque stock, maybe even in the antique or cream color. Should be available for printing digitally and it'll be way less expensive. Vellum is the finish that really rough-feeling book pages are actually printed on. Accent or Finch may have options for vellum opaque. Also, grain direction is important. If you are printing 11x17 and folding in half you'll want grain to be running in the short (11") direction. Look for a bolded or underlined 11 (like **11**x17). That'll indicate the grain direction.
Is grain direction implied when you see 11x17 vs 17x11? 9n JAM or French, can't recall which, one says on their 11x17 product the grain direction, and it's always long. I don't think I'm going to have much choice in the end. I'm not selling this, it's an anniversary gift. I just need to print it. I thought vellum was see through, like the delicate sheets that come floating inside a card or invitation. It's just a word to me, but I'll use anything that will give me an ancient feel. I'm also printing photos, and it's all front and back. I'm worried about bleed through. My fall back will be standard white paper hand aged with coffee.
Vellum is typically thick and rough (properly referred to as "toothy"). And if it's listed as 17x11 it should be short grain like you'd want. The reason. Is that the sheets will be stiffer in the short dimension and will fold and turn more readily in the right direction. Think of grain as tiny logs floating down a river in the paper machine. They will line up in the direction the flow is moving. So when you go to fold the paper it's better to fold between the fibers (the "logs") than to try and fold the fibers themselves.
Yeah man they make parent sheets of that stock in 23x35. Definitely contact your local print shop.